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#1498308 --- 05/03/17 12:17 PM Prez Bill to HWS [Re: bluezone]
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former president bill clinton will speak at the hws graduation this year

wonder if hws president will show bill how geneva now has a 25% poverty rate and the city is in decline while hws buys more and more property taking them off the tax rolls


Originally Posted By: bluezone

Originally Posted By: Libertas
Per the Democrat and Chronicle...

"White Plains residents pay the highest total property taxes per capita among cities in New York, while Binghamton has the highest effective property-tax rate in the state, a review today found.

Albany had the highest effective property-tax rate which is the total raised through property taxes divided by adjusted full value of property among large cities at 1.22 percent. Overall among cities, Binghamton led the pack at 2.51 percent, the Empire Center for State Policy found.

Among cities, White Plains residents paid the highest per capita taxes at $1,898, and the Westchester County city also had the highest per capita spending at $3,716.

Rye ranked second in property taxes per capita at $1,500 and Yonkers ranked third at $1,381. They are all in Westchester, which has the highest property taxes in the nation. The city of Rochester ranked eight at $2,675 per capita, the group said.

Geneva, Ontario County, had the highest per capita debt at $3,318.

The group calculated the rates through its Benchmarking New York online tool.

New Yorkers are paying some of the highest property taxes in the country, and Benchmarking New York is a powerful tool that lets them see exactly how their taxes compare to those in other communities, said Tim Hoefer, executive director of the conservative, Albany-based group.

It found that Lewis County in northern New York had the highest expenditure among counties in New York, at $4,659 per capita. Westchester ranked fourth at $2,670, while Broome County ranked fifth at $2,655.

The small Adirondacks town of Newcomb had the highest expenditure and taxes per capita among New York towns. Among villages, the Fire Island village of Saltaire had the highest expenditures and taxes per capita a whopping $58,566 per home owner, which totals about 37 year-round residents."


Originally Posted By: tag2
If you read the "Panther Pride" which was delivered this week I hope you read the article on page 11. I knew that we have a lot of folks who are struggling financially but... Over 55% of the elementary students are eligible for SNAP or Medicaid. The Geneva elementary schools were selected to participate in Community Eligibility Program through June 2018. This means that ALL of the students at West Street and North Street schools are able to eat breakfast and lunch at no cost. It is a federally funded program. While I am happy that these students will no longer face a day without or with very little food I am appalled that in our community there are so many people (including the little ones) who need this help.



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#1498309 --- 05/03/17 12:21 PM Re: Prez Bill to HWS [Re: bluezone]
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hillary may not attend

busy with her book...
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#1498400 --- 05/06/17 09:48 AM Re: Prez Bill to HWS [Re: bluezone]
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Bill doesn't look good these days. He might keel over around all those college girls

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#1498420 --- 05/06/17 08:13 PM Re: Prez Bill to HWS [Re: LittleKing]
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Lol for sure.....
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#1506093 --- 10/06/17 09:16 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: tag2
If you read the "Panther Pride" which was delivered this week I hope you read the article on page 11. I knew that we have a lot of folks who are struggling financially but... Over 55% of the elementary students are eligible for SNAP or Medicaid. The Geneva elementary schools were selected to participate in Community Eligibility Program through June 2018. This means that ALL of the students at West Street and North Street schools are able to eat breakfast and lunch at no cost. It is a federally funded program. While I am happy that these students will no longer face a day without or with very little food I am appalled that in our community there are so many people (including the little ones) who need this help.


it rose from 55% to 62% this year

all students in the geneva school qualify for no cost breakfast and lunch

and HWS spends money on their campus like it is growing on trees
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#1510899 --- 12/15/17 07:11 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: bluezone]
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wonder if the new HWS president will have some of his students do research and see how much of the nearly 70% tax exempt properties have on the very high poverty level in the city

HWS has around 200 acres that is tax exempt
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#1513101 --- 02/07/18 10:35 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: tag2
If you read the "Panther Pride" which was delivered this week I hope you read the article on page 11. I knew that we have a lot of folks who are struggling financially but... Over 55% of the elementary students are eligible for SNAP or Medicaid. The Geneva elementary schools were selected to participate in Community Eligibility Program through June 2018. This means that ALL of the students at West Street and North Street schools are able to eat breakfast and lunch at no cost. It is a federally funded program. While I am happy that these students will no longer face a day without or with very little food I am appalled that in our community there are so many people (including the little ones) who need this help.


it rose from 55% to 62% this year

all students in the geneva school qualify for no cost breakfast and lunch

and HWS spends money on their campus like it is growing on trees


wonder if the new HWS president will have some of his students do research and see how much of the nearly 70% tax exempt properties have on the very high poverty level in the city


those raised cross walks that hws put in on pulteney street are only there to serve hws
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#1513102 --- 02/07/18 10:48 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: tag2
If you read the "Panther Pride" which was delivered this week I hope you read the article on page 11. I knew that we have a lot of folks who are struggling financially but... Over 55% of the elementary students are eligible for SNAP or Medicaid. The Geneva elementary schools were selected to participate in Community Eligibility Program through June 2018. This means that ALL of the students at West Street and North Street schools are able to eat breakfast and lunch at no cost. It is a federally funded program. While I am happy that these students will no longer face a day without or with very little food I am appalled that in our community there are so many people (including the little ones) who need this help.


believe that the lastest count is over 3,000 people in geneva are at the poverty level

HWS student population is about 2400 if one wants to get a real sense of how high the poverty level is

with the stock market up nearly 40% wonder if hws endowment is over $350 million yet?

but no money from hws to pay their fair share while the poverty level grows in geneva
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#1513114 --- 02/08/18 10:33 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: tag2
If you read the "Panther Pride" which was delivered this week I hope you read the article on page 11. I knew that we have a lot of folks who are struggling financially but... Over 55% of the elementary students are eligible for SNAP or Medicaid. The Geneva elementary schools were selected to participate in Community Eligibility Program through June 2018. This means that ALL of the students at West Street and North Street schools are able to eat breakfast and lunch at no cost. It is a federally funded program. While I am happy that these students will no longer face a day without or with very little food I am appalled that in our community there are so many people (including the little ones) who need this help.


Don't be to concerned for the families on the lunch program, eligibility for a family of four is $45,510 annually. Not exactly needy.
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#1513116 --- 02/08/18 10:53 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: bluezone]
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I don't know, cwjga , $45,500 after taxes for 4 people doesn't sound like a lot to me. car expenses, gas, electricity, home repairs, car repairs, food, clothes for 4 people, medical, eye glasses perhaps, I'm sure I didn't get it all, but those expenses alone would cause that family to live paycheck to paycheck these days. --- just sayin'

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#1513118 --- 02/08/18 11:19 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: ruby2]
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Originally Posted By: ruby2
I don't know, cwjga , $45,500 after taxes for 4 people doesn't sound like a lot to me. car expenses, gas, electricity, home repairs, car repairs, food, clothes for 4 people, medical, eye glasses perhaps, I'm sure I didn't get it all, but those expenses alone would cause that family to live paycheck to paycheck these days. --- just sayin'


do not forget the very high property taxes cuz HWS gets a 'free ride'

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#1513119 --- 02/08/18 11:30 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Not exactly needy.


and neither is HWS

have HWS 'donate' just 3% of their endowment every year and that would cover most of the city yearly expenses

when peoples property taxes drop then they could use that money to feed their family
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#1513120 --- 02/08/18 11:36 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: ruby2]
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Originally Posted By: ruby2
I don't know, cwjga , $45,500 after taxes for 4 people doesn't sound like a lot to me. car expenses, gas, electricity, home repairs, car repairs, food, clothes for 4 people, medical, eye glasses perhaps, I'm sure I didn't get it all, but those expenses alone would cause that family to live paycheck to paycheck these days. --- just sayin'

Absolutely, Ruby.

I'd like to see anyone try to live on $11,000 a year and then suggest that they aren't 'exactly needy'. Especially if they experience anything less than perfect health, require dependable transportation or safe, adequate housing.
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#1513122 --- 02/08/18 11:44 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Not exactly needy.


HWS is not needy either

guess who owns the properties listed below?

that is only a partial list

care to guess how many of them have an assessed value over $50,000,000?

no taxes paid on any of them


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Owner Name Property Address
Colleges of the Seneca
171 Kings Ln

Colleges of the Seneca
25 Verplanck St

Colleges of the Seneca
Verplanck St

Colleges of the Seneca
420 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
425 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
451 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
780 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
775 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
737 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
645 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
639 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
629 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
Saint Clair

Colleges of the Seneca
402 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
15 Verplanck St

Colleges of the Seneca
412 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
Kings Ln

Colleges of the Seneca
844 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
394 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
764 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
756 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
746 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
730 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
720 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
710 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
51 Saint Clair & Pulteney

Colleges of the Seneca
403 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
411 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
419 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
408 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
400 Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
(97) Saint Clair St

Colleges of the Seneca
99 Saint Clair St

Colleges of the Seneca
577 S Main St

Colleges of the Seneca
Jay St

Colleges of the Seneca
Jay St

Colleges of the Seneca
Saint Clair St

Colleges of the Seneca
Verplanck St

Colleges of the Seneca
Verplanck St

Colleges of the Seneca
Verplanck St

Colleges of the Seneca
Verplanck St

Colleges of the Seneca
Verplanck St

Colleges of the Seneca
Verplanck St

Colleges of the Seneca
Pulteney St

Colleges of the Seneca
White Springs Rd

Colleges of the Seneca
White Springs Rd

Colleges of the Seneca
Saint Clair St

Colleges of the Seneca
593 S Main St


Hobart & William Smith College
Saint Clair St

Hobart & William Smith College
87 Saint Clair St

Hobart & William Smith College
800 S Main St

Hobart & William Smith College
583 S Main St

Hobart & William Smith College
91 Saint Clair St

Hobart & William Smith College
Pulteney/Main/St Clair

Hobart and William Smith
White Springs Ln

Hobart and William Smith
56 White Springs Ln

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#1515359 --- 06/08/18 06:33 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: cwjga]
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considering HWS saves sooooo much in NOT paying property taxes HWS should pay the monthly rent for Food Justice at the cities incubator location


if HWS has an endowment fund with nearly $250 million in it a few hundred dollars per month to help people with limited access to healthy food would be a 'good neighbor' thing to do by HWS

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#1515363 --- 06/08/18 10:49 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: bluezone]
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Hey, how about we get the 63% of kids that are overweight to share some of their food ?
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#1517048 --- 07/17/18 05:31 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Hey, how about we get the 63% of kids that are overweight to share some of their food ?


are you refering to the HWS college students with 63% of them being overweight?
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#1517050 --- 07/17/18 05:39 AM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: scwoodchuck]
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HWS could eliminate their fireworks display and use that money to help Food Justice pay their yearly rent
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#1518114 --- 07/30/18 03:27 PM Re: Hobart / Poverty [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Libertas
Per the Democrat and Chronicle...

"White Plains residents pay the highest total property taxes per capita among cities in New York, while Binghamton has the highest effective property-tax rate in the state, a review today found.

Albany had the highest effective property-tax rate which is the total raised through property taxes divided by adjusted full value of property among large cities at 1.22 percent. Overall among cities, Binghamton led the pack at 2.51 percent, the Empire Center for State Policy found.

Among cities, White Plains residents paid the highest per capita taxes at $1,898, and the Westchester County city also had the highest per capita spending at $3,716.

Rye ranked second in property taxes per capita at $1,500 and Yonkers ranked third at $1,381. They are all in Westchester, which has the highest property taxes in the nation. The city of Rochester ranked eight at $2,675 per capita, the group said.

Geneva, Ontario County, had the highest per capita debt at $3,318.

The group calculated the rates through its Benchmarking New York online tool.

New Yorkers are paying some of the highest property taxes in the country, and Benchmarking New York is a powerful tool that lets them see exactly how their taxes compare to those in other communities, said Tim Hoefer, executive director of the conservative, Albany-based group.

It found that Lewis County in northern New York had the highest expenditure among counties in New York, at $4,659 per capita. Westchester ranked fourth at $2,670, while Broome County ranked fifth at $2,655.

The small Adirondacks town of Newcomb had the highest expenditure and taxes per capita among New York towns. Among villages, the Fire Island village of Saltaire had the highest expenditures and taxes per capita a whopping $58,566 per home owner, which totals about 37 year-round residents."


Originally Posted By: tag2
If you read the "Panther Pride" which was delivered this week I hope you read the article on page 11. I knew that we have a lot of folks who are struggling financially but... Over 55% of the elementary students are eligible for SNAP or Medicaid. The Geneva elementary schools were selected to participate in Community Eligibility Program through June 2018. This means that ALL of the students at West Street and North Street schools are able to eat breakfast and lunch at no cost. It is a federally funded program. While I am happy that these students will no longer face a day without or with very little food I am appalled that in our community there are so many people (including the little ones) who need this help.




local newspaper had a story about HWS students studying to see if cherries are healthy

how about studying how a large portion of tax exempt properties (hws being one of those tax exempt) in the city causes high property/school taxes and why high poverty is a result
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