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#1498313 --- 05/03/17 12:56 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: newsman38]
bluezone Offline
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Originally Posted By: newsman38
The agreement between the state and the Senecas — a Western New York tribe — provided the state with a percentage


thought the 'tribe' could not make 'agreements' with NYS without the feds holding the 'tribes' hand?

is that not what the 'tribes' claimed with the false land claims?

there are no federal 'reservations' in NYS

congress gave US citizenship to 'tribal members' in 1924

there is not any clause in the US Constitution stating a US citizen can form a 'nation'
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#1498322 --- 05/03/17 07:03 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: newsman38
The agreement between the state and the Senecas — a Western New York tribe — provided the state with a percentage


thought the 'tribe' could not make 'agreements' with NYS without the feds holding the 'tribes' hand?

is that not what the 'tribes' claimed with the false land claims?

there are no federal 'reservations' in NYS

congress gave US citizenship to 'tribal members' in 1924

there is not any clause in the US Constitution stating a US citizen can form a 'nation'
That makes sense to me.
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#1498401 --- 05/06/17 09:50 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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On April 26, 2017 UCE filed a Petition for Certiorari with the United States Supreme Court seeking review of the decision of the United States Court of Appeal's decision in Upstate Citizens for Equal., Inc. v. United States at 841 F.3d 556 (2d Cir. 2016). The Supreme Court docket on our petition is available at: Supreme Court Docket

The petition presents the following questions:

1. Can Congress in the exercise of its Article 1 powers infringe, reduce or diminish the territorial integrity of a State without its prior consent?

2. Does Congress possess plenary power over Indian affairs and if so does it expand the Indian Commerce Clause to authorize the displacement of State rights to territorial integrity?

3. Does the land acquisition in this case via the mechanism of 25 USC § 465 (now 25 USC § 5108), represent a violation of the limits inherently expressed in the Indian Commerce Clause that limit Congress’ power to ‘regulate’ ‘commerce?’

4. Does the 300,000-acre ancient Oneida Indian reservation in New York still exist?




Edited by dwarren (05/06/17 09:52 AM)

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#1498656 --- 05/12/17 02:28 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: dwarren]
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Awww... and just when I was starting to miss "ol' what's-his-name".grin
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#1498668 --- 05/12/17 06:10 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Timbo]
Teonan Offline
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Awww... and just when I was starting to miss "ol' what's-his-name".grin

Hehehe. cool
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