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#997372 --- 03/20/09 06:12 PM Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop
SFisWonderful Offline
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I just heard that the Cayuga Indians own a repair shop/towing place in Weedsport. The name of the shop is pullens. From the website it looks like they tow 18-wheelers and repair work on cars on big trucks.

Any truth to this matter?


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#997419 --- 03/20/09 08:39 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: SFisWonderful]
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If they're paying taxes and obeying the laws what's the problem? Better this than selling illegal gas and cigarettes.

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#997426 --- 03/20/09 08:51 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: Headless Horseman]
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Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
If they're paying taxes and obeying the laws what's the problem? Better this than selling illegal gas and cigarettes.

Right on. . .if they are paying the taxes on this business and not putting up a big fuss, then why make a big fuss on the cigs and gas.

See how simple they can make life instead of wasting millions in court.

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#997438 --- 03/20/09 09:01 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: SFisWonderful]
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yep...but there is more to it than what you have heard I am sure ... BTW..where did you hear ...the news .... cause it ain't new by any means


Edited by reilley (03/20/09 09:05 PM)
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#997439 --- 03/20/09 09:04 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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They do all over work , they pull cars and trucks off the thruway they have a contract ,good prices and really great people . I know them,The ownwer now .the former owner R. Pullens ....
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#997442 --- 03/20/09 09:07 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Don't worry your pretty little head SFiW... taxes are paid. nothing for you all to worry about!
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#997448 --- 03/20/09 09:19 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Ok . .that is greeat that the taxes are paid. Are the sales taxes submitted?

Do the Indians own this garage now? I heard it was the Cayuga Indians that own it, the same group that owns Lakeside.

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#997458 --- 03/20/09 09:45 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: SFisWonderful]
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no,its not them. They are silent ... ok satified.. TAXES are taken care of
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#997600 --- 03/21/09 07:15 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: SFisWonderful]
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Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
I just heard that the Cayuga Indians own a repair shop/towing place in Weedsport. The name of the shop is pullens. From the website it looks like they tow 18-wheelers and repair work on cars on big trucks.

Any truth to this matter?



They repair their own trucks that transport the illegal cigs and gas
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#997602 --- 03/21/09 07:16 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: SFisWonderful]
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They want to build a casino next to the thruway.
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#997623 --- 03/21/09 07:32 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
no,its not them. They are silent ... ok satified.. TAXES are taken care of



Originally Posted By: dwarren
Originally Posted By: dwarren
dwarren

According to the DOS:

Selected Entity Name: PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC

Selected Entity Status Information Current Entity Name: PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC
Initial DOS Filing Date: OCTOBER 06, 2006
County: SENECA
Jurisdiction: NEW YORK
Entity Type: DOMESTIC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Current Entity Status: ACTIVE

Selected Entity Address Information DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
PULLENS ENTERPRISES, LLC
PO BOX 786
SENECA FALLS, NEW YORK, 13148
Registered Agent




street # street account # bill # tax map number
Rte 89 3358 32-2-34.11

Cayuga Nation of New York
PO Box 786
Seneca Falls NY 13148


Unpaid taxes balance: $ 1673.40


Originally Posted By: Reiley
Originally Posted By: reilley

PULLENS PAY THEIR TAXES !!!! THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY THE CAYUGAS
LEAVE EM ALONE! LOOK ON CAYUGA COUNTY if you are so worried ...

How is it possible that the post office allows two different people use the same PO box #786?

must be the DOS and the post office are wrong


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#997681 --- 03/21/09 08:32 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: bluezone]
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Well Gee, it looks like they aren't paying taxes, after all.

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#997683 --- 03/21/09 08:33 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
yep...but there is more to it than what you have heard I am sure ... BTW..where did you hear ...the news .... cause it ain't new by any means


Thanks, I will make sure not to use them. That business may pay taxes but it's the money used to fund that business from untaxed cigs and gas that bothers me. It's called money laundering in some situations. There are lots of tow and repair companies that have to pay taxes on all their income. I'll do business with them.


Edited by justaxme (03/21/09 08:38 AM)
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#997753 --- 03/21/09 11:18 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: justaxme]
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and there are many NON indian businesses that don't/haven't paid taxes!
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#997758 --- 03/21/09 11:29 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
and there are many NON indian businesses that don't/haven't paid taxes!

Right! anddd they are nailed to the cross because of nonpayment!

Take the race track right down the street in weedsport. They were behind in sales tax from ticket sales and the NYS Dept of Taxation and Finance wanted to shut them down until the matter was taken care of. They didnt waste years trying to negotiate, they said you have X amount of DAYS to get this taken care of!

Is that fair?
Weedsport and Raceway Park near Elbridge owes nearly $1 million
by Scott Rapp
Saturday September 06, 2008, 11:16 PM
The corporate owner of Cayuga County Fair Speedway in Weedsport and Rolling Wheels Raceway Park off Route 5 west of Elbridge owes the state nearly $1 million in back taxes, penalties and interest, according to a tax warrant filed against the company.

The state is seeking to collect $959,514.55 from World Racing Group Inc., of Concord, N.C., said Susan Burns, a state Department of Taxation and Finance spokeswoman.

Nearly $500,000 of the judgment is for uncollected sales tax from Dec. 1, 2003, to Nov. 30, 2006, Burns said. About $460,000 is for penalties and interest.

"The warrant was issued for failure to collect sales tax. ... It was our effort to collect a liability that the taxpayer hasn't addressed," she said Friday.

The dispute remains unresolved between the state and World Racing Group Inc., which owns the two local dirt racetracks in eastern Cayuga County and similar car racing venues in Canandaigua and Middletown. The corporation also stages the popular Super Dirt Week car races at the New York State Fairgrounds, which are scheduled next month, and owns other tracks in Florida and Pennsylvania.

The company, which reported a record $19.6 million in revenue for 2007, is challenging the amount of the tax warrant, said Brian Carter, chief executive officer.

"I'd offer them $100,000 to make this all go away, which is pretty close to what the actual (tax in arrears) number is," Carter said.

Carter's explanation of the basis for the tax judgment differs from the state's explanation.

At first, Carter said the state was trying to collect unpaid sales tax on pit passes sold to non-racing participants at his four tracks, which he said the state had never done before. But Burns said state tax law requires businesses to collect and remit sales tax on pit passes.

Last week, Carter revised his explanation and said about $270,000 of the approximately $500,000 owed in back taxes is for unpaid sales tax on his company's purchase of the Cayuga County Fair track and grounds for about $4 million in 2004.

About $150,000 is for uncollected taxes on pit passes, and the balance represents unpaid taxes on concessions and other miscellaneous sales, he said.

Burns declined to provide any particulars about the case because of privacy concerns, but said the state generally does not require companies to pay sales tax on business acquisitions. Companies may have to pay sales tax on tangible personal property assets they buy, like furniture, tools and machines, she said.

Here's how the applicable tax law reads: "In addition to your obligations and requirements with respect to the bulk sale as described above, you are responsible for paying the sales tax due, if any, on tangible personal property or otherwise acquired in a bulk sale transaction. Sales tax is not imposed on the sale of real property or intangible assets, such as good will."

Burns said the tax department is trying to strike a settlement with Carter's company, including the possibility of a payment plan.

$460,000 for panlties and interest! The indians must owe hundreds of millions for their lack of sales tax payments!

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#997875 --- 03/21/09 05:07 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: SFisWonderful]
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Its not Mr.Pullens ... they (People who owns Turning Stone) own this property. But they are backers for the guy who owns it. That amount that they owe must be just for this year ,cause a $1000 is nothing for a business in the village. If you have a problem with this , Please go to Pullens Shop and complain to them . They have hired locals and the employees have been there for years .
So please stop posting THOUSANDS all about the Indaians have one post and just add to it.
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#997886 --- 03/21/09 05:59 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
Its not Mr.Pullens ... they (People who owns Turning Stone) own this property. But they are backers for the guy who owns it. That amount that they owe must be just for this year ,cause a $1000 is nothing for a business in the village. If you have a problem with this , Please go to Pullens Shop and complain to them . They have hired locals and the employees have been there for years .
So please stop posting THOUSANDS all about the Indaians have one post and just add to it.

Why would I go to the garage and complain? Maybe these people are just there because they didnt want to go out and find new jobs as the indians came in and bought the old owner out.

I would not do business with them as the they have cost the taxpayers of NYS way to much money by suing us over and over and claiming they dont have to pay any taxes like the rest of us.

I think this deserves its own thread as it is one more business they own and most likely bought with their illegal earnings.

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#997894 --- 03/21/09 06:24 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: SFisWonderful]
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fine what ever , just leave us alone ok?
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#997910 --- 03/21/09 07:08 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
fine what ever , just leave us alone ok?

Who is "us?" Are you a member of the nontaxpaying indians? Are you an employee of pullens?

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#997911 --- 03/21/09 07:08 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: SFisWonderful]
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Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Originally Posted By: reilley
Its not Mr.Pullens ... they (People who owns Turning Stone) own this property. But they are backers for the guy who owns it. That amount that they owe must be just for this year ,cause a $1000 is nothing for a business in the village. If you have a problem with this , Please go to Pullens Shop and complain to them . They have hired locals and the employees have been there for years .
So please stop posting THOUSANDS all about the Indaians have one post and just add to it.

Why would I go to the garage and complain? Maybe these people are just there because they didnt want to go out and find new jobs as the indians came in and bought the old owner out.

I would not do business with them as the they have cost the taxpayers of NYS way to much money by suing us over and over and claiming they dont have to pay any taxes like the rest of us.

I think this deserves its own thread as it is one more business they own and most likely bought with their illegal earnings.


Well said, SF.
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