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#998486 --- 03/23/09 10:47 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


Then why do you support an illegal activity that breaks the law by not paying their taxes and requiring the rest of us to pay more more? I just don't understand it.
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#999031 --- 03/24/09 06:54 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


Originally Posted By: reilley

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Loc: between here and there NY Gov. orders 8,900 layoffs
By: The Citizen staff report

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:57 PM EDT

ALBANY --Gov. David Paterson is ordering 8,900 state workers be laid off after unions refused concessions amid a staggering economic downturn.
Budget Director Laura Anglin tells The Associated Press that Paterson is calling for the first state layoffs since the late 1990s after unions refused to even provide counter proposals. The state employs about 199,000 people.

The layoffs could begin July 1.

Anglin says unions have been informed, but could still try to return to the table in the coming days before a budget is negotiated.

She says the layoffs will save nearly $500 million over two years. The state faces a $16 billion deficit this year.
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reilley posted in the headline forum.
Do you see how the tribes refusing to pay their $1 BILLION of taxes per year affects NY?

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#999415 --- 03/25/09 03:29 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


How do you feel about our soldiers losing their lives for our freedoms just so the tribes can operate above the laws?


See your own post -- Auburn man killed in action in Afghanistan .
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#999423 --- 03/25/09 03:46 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


How do you feel about our soldiers losing their lives for our freedoms just so the tribes can operate above the laws?


See your own post -- Auburn man killed in action in Afghanistan .


The Cayuga nation says they are a sovereign nation. American soldiers might be called upon to fight them someday. And right in our backyard.
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#999509 --- 03/25/09 07:48 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: trump]
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You know, I am getting sick of all these anti Indian posts. It's getting ridiculous that there are so many. Yes, I believe the Indian run businesses should be payimg their share of taxes, as none of the land is sovereign land. However, until our politicians decide to get off their butts and DO something, this is how it will be. Also, instead of spending your time griping on here, what you should be doing is contacting our political leaders. NOTHING will be solved with countless postings on here.
Another thing, if people are buying their gas or cigarettes from Lakeside, what is it to you? With the economy being as crappy as it is and no it's not getting better anytime soon, people are trying to save wherever they can. Yes, I know smoking is not a need and is hazardous to your health. However, it's an addiction that can be hard for many to kick. I know many who have tried to quit only to start again. Anyways, if smokers can get their cigarettes cheaper, than they are going to do it, leave them alone.
As for Pullens, I've used their towing service twice. No problems either time. BTW, I didn't know that the Indians owned this establishment. Infact, I wouldn't hesitate to call Pullens again. Whether Mr Pullen or the Indians own this business isn't any concern of mine.

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#999522 --- 03/25/09 08:16 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: racefan73]
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Originally Posted By: racefan73
You know, I am getting sick of all these anti Indian posts. It's getting ridiculous that there are so many. Yes, I believe the Indian run businesses should be payimg their share of taxes, as none of the land is sovereign land. However, until our politicians decide to get off their butts and DO something, this is how it will be. Also, instead of spending your time griping on here, what you should be doing is contacting our political leaders. NOTHING will be solved with countless postings on here.
Another thing, if people are buying their gas or cigarettes from Lakeside, what is it to you? With the economy being as crappy as it is and no it's not getting better anytime soon, people are trying to save wherever they can. Yes, I know smoking is not a need and is hazardous to your health. However, it's an addiction that can be hard for many to kick. I know many who have tried to quit only to start again. Anyways, if smokers can get their cigarettes cheaper, than they are going to do it, leave them alone.
As for Pullens, I've used their towing service twice. No problems either time. BTW, I didn't know that the Indians owned this establishment. Infact, I wouldn't hesitate to call Pullens again. Whether Mr Pullen or the Indians own this business isn't any concern of mine.

Maybe when your property taxes, income taxes, registration fees, and paterson decides to TAX everything to make up for our state's debt it will concern you that the native americans are not doing their part.

How do you know the people that complain on this forum dont contact their political leaders. I know for one, I DO! I come to this forum to get to other's opinions on the matter. Some I agree with and others I dont.

I will agree with you about smoking taxes. If people want to smoke let them. I dont smoke and people that do smoke should be courteous to nonsmokers but the taxation in this state is WAYYY out of control.

Nobody ever stated anything about Pullens having bad service, just the fact that illegal monies could have been used to purchase this business from selling gas and cigs that were supposed to be taxed.

If I can support a business that is doing things in an honest way, I will do that versus support someone that has illegal operations someplace else.

The smartest thing Cayuga Nation did is to NOT change the name of Pullens and make it known that it is a native american owned business.

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#999738 --- 03/26/09 09:09 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: racefan73]
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Originally Posted By: racefan73
Yes, I believe the Indian run businesses should be payimg their share of taxes, as none of the land is sovereign land.


It is just that simple.
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#999959 --- 03/26/09 06:42 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
They want to build a casino next to the thruway.


Plus they get the franchise to tow away all the cars repossessed due to gambling losses!!
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#1000251 --- 03/27/09 02:40 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: justaxme]
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Do you think there will be "turf wars" between the Oneidas and the Cayugas as the Cayugas will be taking customers from Turning Stone?
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#1000264 --- 03/27/09 03:18 PM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: reilley
no I don't make money by,or with the Indians,nor does my husband.


How do you feel about our soldiers losing their lives for our freedoms just so the tribes can operate above the laws?


See your own post -- Auburn man killed in action in Afghanistan .


Are Afghanistans now allowed to sell illegal cigs and gas in our counties?

Or build illegal casinos?
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#1000458 --- 03/28/09 06:46 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: bluezone]
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You all need to back off reilley..she does NOTHING illegal nor does her husband
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#1000463 --- 03/28/09 06:53 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: *Sparkey*]
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Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
You all need to back off reilley..she does NOTHING illegal nor does her husband


I agree Spark. Attacking Reilley will do nothing to help their cause.
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#1000466 --- 03/28/09 06:56 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: The Mask]
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Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
You all need to back off reilley..she does NOTHING illegal nor does her husband


I agree Spark. Attacking Reilley will do nothing to help their cause.


What they said!!!
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#1000484 --- 03/28/09 07:24 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: *Sparkey*]
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Originally Posted By: *Sparkey*
You all need to back off reilley..she does NOTHING illegal nor does her husband


reilley does a lot of postings on these forums. On most of her postings on other topics she does indeed sound like a nice person. So I just don't understand why she is such a strong supporter of a group of people that break the law by not collecting lawful taxes which drives other businesses out of business and some of these ill gotten gains ends up supporting terrorist activties worldwide.
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#1000505 --- 03/28/09 08:25 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
and there are many NON indian businesses that don't/haven't paid taxes!


Unfortunately that is true. But the Indians are the only ones who do it openly. Following is from the NY state tax website. These lawyers should be totally ashamed of themselves. These lawyers are being treated more harsly in the public eye than the Indians who do not have their violations posted on the tax website. All we are asking is that Indians be held to the same standard as other tax violators.

http://www.tax.state.ny.us/press/2009/lawyerscharged032609.htm

FOR RELEASE:
IMMEDIATE, Thursday
March 26, 2009

New York State Department of Taxation and Finance Commissioner Robert L. Megna announced today that six Rochester area lawyers, including a part-time town supervisor, face felony charges in separate cases for failing to file state personal income tax returns.

It is estimated that those charged failed to report a combined $1.4 million in income and owe over $60,000.00 in tax liability.

The accused lawyers face arraignment today on felony complaints in Rochester City Court before Judge Stephen T. Miller. Five of the accused will each be charged with multiple violations of the New York State Tax Law, Class E felonies, for failing to file returns for three or more consecutive tax years while having a tax liability in each of those years. If found guilty, the attorneys face up to four years each in state prison and loss of their law licenses under the State Judiciary Law.

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#1000506 --- 03/28/09 08:28 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: reilley]
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Originally Posted By: reilley
oh I get it ..believe me ... I understand .. HBT has said it best since you started these types of posting...


HBT? Are you kidding me? Now you are accusing us of being racist? You can't make those kind of charges against us and expect to be treated with kid gloves.
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#1000519 --- 03/28/09 08:50 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: SFisWonderful]
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Originally Posted By: SFisWonderful
Does your husband deliver these illegal cigs by the truckload and pullens works on that 18-wheeler that delivers these illegal cigs to these illegal businesses, is that why you are so mad?



Reilley is one of the nicest posters on this forum. To accuse her or her husband of doing anything illegal is insulting, to say the least.
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#1000521 --- 03/28/09 08:52 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: LOTE]
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I agree that reilley seems like a very nice person. So why she support the illegal action of not collectiog taxes on cigarettes? or gasoline also for that matter?
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#1000525 --- 03/28/09 09:12 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: trump]
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And where does she say that she supports not collecting taxes? From what I've read in this thread, she has only supported Pullens, which you all ASSUME is a business funded with taxes not paid on cigs or gasoline.
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#1000526 --- 03/28/09 09:16 AM Re: Cayuga Indian owned tow/repair shop [Re: LOTE]
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Originally Posted By: ~livinontheedge~
And where does she say that she supports not collecting taxes? From what I've read in this thread, she has only supported Pullens, which you all ASSUME is a business funded with taxes not paid on cigs or gasoline.


reilley has certainly supported the Indians not collecting taxes on other threads. And it has been shown on this thread that Pullens uses the same post office box as the Lakeside trading center so the tie-in is obvious.
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