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#940959 --- 12/19/08 01:02 AM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: Brightday]
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#940968 --- 12/19/08 01:18 AM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: Brightday]
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Originally Posted By: Brightday
I bet Caroline has a better knowledge of the issues than Sara Palin did.

Again, I worry more about another Bush than Caroline.


Please, right-wing nuts, no assassinations, please.

Oswald was one of you.. fruit pie...a left-wing nut job.
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#940985 --- 12/19/08 01:35 AM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: HarleyBobT]
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Well I can tell you what Miss Kennedy knows about NY. NEW YORK CITY! Isn't that all you need to know about NY? As far as I'm concerned, Cuomo should be appointed US Senator. He knows more about what is going on than Caroline. This is coming from someone who didn't care for his father for Governor. Somehow, that Kennedy legacy will win out and Caroline will be selected to replace Clinton. I can't understand the big love affair with the Kennedy family. One of them should been in jail for what he did back in the 60's. It's just like the love affair with the Clintons. What is the big deal with either of these families?

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#941058 --- 12/19/08 04:23 AM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: racefan73]
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It's not just these families. Some significant percentage of lawmakers are relatives of previous lawmakers. While one might expect some politicians' children to get into politics out of sheer interest, in many cases we are setting up political dynasties that are dangerous to our democratic system. The fact that anyone in this country believes it acceptable to have George W. Bush crowned president less than a decade after his father left office is absolutely insane. And the idea of Hilary Clinton in office - with her husband as "first gentleman" (or whatever they would have called him)? Political lunacy.

The question is whether these people are really the most qualified, most ethical people to lead, and whether they have the record to back it up. There are literally millions of people in this country who have great ideas, respect for the constitution, extensive knowledge on economics, science, community planning, and solid ethics. Instead of even having those individuals as an option, however, we get these mediocre offspring of the ruling elite or whatever other half-rate hack corporations can buy. On top of all of that, we join the media in ridiculing the few intelligent, honest, free-thinking legislators that we do have in office - calling solid Constitutionalists like Ron Paul or honest populists like Dennis Kucinich "extremists" or "nutjobs."

OF COURSE Caroline Kennedy shouldn't be Senator. Not just because she's a Kennedy - though we should be wary of this type of political nobility. But the real reason she shouldn't be elected - just like George W. Bush should never have been - is because she is simply not the best person for the job. Period. Let one of the other 100,000 qualified "commoners" in New York have the job. Maybe then we'd get some real leadership from our supposed "leaders."
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#941255 --- 12/19/08 02:26 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: HarleyBobT]
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Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT


sick photo Caroline Kennedy


Let's see, it would appear that this picture was taken on the Cape. We all know the Kennedy's have a compound on Martha's Vineyard (who wouldn't love to have that?) and we know that the Clinton's stayed on Martha's Vineyard anytime they vacationed. So it goes to reason that yes, they were in the same circle of friends whenever on the Cape. That doesn't make Caroline a skank or a trollop. If guilt by associates makes someone a skank or a trollop, then by my posting on here with Harley would make me a Right Wing Hate Monger just like Harley... \:\/
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#942256 --- 12/21/08 01:04 AM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: TRD_Tacoma]
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Actually, the Kennedy compound is not on Martha's Vineyard. It is at Hyannisport which is near where the airfield is.
The last I knew that influence is the most important attribute a politician can have. If you cannot talk to and influence others you really can't accomplish anything.

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#942269 --- 12/21/08 01:15 AM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: Retired Soldier]
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Originally Posted By: Retired Soldier
Actually, the Kennedy compound is not on Martha's Vineyard. It is at Hyannisport which is near where the airfield is.
The last I knew that influence is the most important attribute a politician can have. If you cannot talk to and influence others you really can't accomplish anything.


New York power couple!!

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#942671 --- 12/21/08 08:51 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: justaxme]
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Watch out for Jeb Bush, he is getting ready. Do we need that?

I aliken the Bushes with the Clintons.

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#942699 --- 12/21/08 09:38 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: Brightday]
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Originally Posted By: Brightday
Watch out for Jeb Bush, he is getting ready. Do we need that?

I aliken the Bushes with the Clintons.


And the Kennedy's!!
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#943024 --- 12/22/08 02:08 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: Retired Soldier]
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Originally Posted By: Retired Soldier
Actually, the Kennedy compound is not on Martha's Vineyard. It is at Hyannisport which is near where the airfield is.
The last I knew that influence is the most important attribute a politician can have. If you cannot talk to and influence others you really can't accomplish anything.


The Kennedy's do have a place on Martha's Vineyard. I have been past it.
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#943027 --- 12/22/08 02:12 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: TRD_Tacoma]
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Kennedy's mother, former U.S. first lady Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, maintained a home in Aquinnah (formerly Gay Head)
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#943053 --- 12/22/08 03:08 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: LaughinWillow]
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Originally Posted By: LaughinWillow
It's not just these families. Some significant percentage of lawmakers are relatives of previous lawmakers. While one might expect some politicians' children to get into politics out of sheer interest, in many cases we are setting up political dynasties that are dangerous to our democratic system. The fact that anyone in this country believes it acceptable to have George W. Bush crowned president less than a decade after his father left office is absolutely insane. And the idea of Hilary Clinton in office - with her husband as "first gentleman" (or whatever they would have called him)? Political lunacy.

The question is whether these people are really the most qualified, most ethical people to lead, and whether they have the record to back it up. There are literally millions of people in this country who have great ideas, respect for the constitution, extensive knowledge on economics, science, community planning, and solid ethics. Instead of even having those individuals as an option, however, we get these mediocre offspring of the ruling elite or whatever other half-rate hack corporations can buy. On top of all of that, we join the media in ridiculing the few intelligent, honest, free-thinking legislators that we do have in office - calling solid Constitutionalists like Ron Paul or honest populists like Dennis Kucinich "extremists" or "nutjobs."

OF COURSE Caroline Kennedy shouldn't be Senator. Not just because she's a Kennedy - though we should be wary of this type of political nobility. But the real reason she shouldn't be elected - just like George W. Bush should never have been - is because she is simply not the best person for the job. Period. Let one of the other 100,000 qualified "commoners" in New York have the job. Maybe then we'd get some real leadership from our supposed "leaders."



The more I read you Laughing Willow, the more sense you make.

This is an ABSOLUTELY right on, SPOT ON post!

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#943066 --- 12/22/08 03:24 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: SkySoldier]
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All in the Family , Presidents by genealogical relationship
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#943082 --- 12/22/08 03:38 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: TRD_Tacoma]
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I am not arguing that the Kennedy's don't have places lots of places, but the Kennedy Compound is on Cape Cod.

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#943088 --- 12/22/08 03:43 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: Retired Soldier]
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Sure your arguing. Or you wouldn't have responded. But that is par for the course with you RS. The point of the matter is, the Kennedy's did maintain a place on Martha's Vineyard and the Clinton's had a tendancy to vacation on Martha's Vineyard.

Oh and while we are at it, brush up on your georgraphy. Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket are islands off Cape Cod.
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#943106 --- 12/22/08 04:20 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: TRD_Tacoma]
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Hey, TRD, lighten up. I am originally from MASSACHUSETTS and have spent a lot of time on Cape Cod and the islands.
Look up old LIFE magazines and you can see pictures of the Kennedy compound on Cape Cod.
The islands of Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard are off the coast of Cape Cod, yes, but not a part of it. The Cape is an island, itself, it is connected by two bridges that cross the canal.

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#943122 --- 12/22/08 04:46 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: Retired Soldier]
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Originally Posted By: Retired Soldier
Hey, TRD, lighten up. I am originally from MASSACHUSETTS and have spent a lot of time on Cape Cod and the islands.
Look up old LIFE magazines and you can see pictures of the Kennedy compound on Cape Cod.
The islands of Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard are off the coast of Cape Cod, yes, but not a part of it. The Cape is an island, itself, it is connected by two bridges that cross the canal.


AHahahah. MASSACHUSETTS my left foot, your originally from South of LODI!?
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#943129 --- 12/22/08 05:00 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: HarleyBobT]
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And drinks warm wine on back roads while jogging three miles a day.


Used to head the Seneca County DC until his love of pornagraphy and sending of such to women who did not request it got him booted.
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#943142 --- 12/22/08 05:42 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: TRD_Tacoma]
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Originally Posted By: TRD_Tacoma
Sure your arguing. Or you wouldn't have responded. But that is par for the course with you RS. The point of the matter is, the Kennedy's did maintain a place on Martha's Vineyard and the Clinton's had a tendancy to vacation on Martha's Vineyard.

Oh and while we are at it, brush up on your georgraphy. Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket are islands off Cape Cod.



The Kennedy Compound is in Hyannis, on Cape Cod.

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#943148 --- 12/22/08 05:56 PM Re: Caroline Kennedy? The raw truth [Re: SkySoldier]
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Originally Posted By: SkySoldier
And drinks warm wine on back roads while jogging three miles a day.


Used to head the Seneca County DNC until his love of pornagraphy and sending of such to women who did not request it got him booted.


Seneca County has a DNC?
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