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#934168 --- 12/09/08 11:50 AM More Democrat Corruption
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#934171 --- 12/09/08 11:51 AM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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Put him in the same cell with Bubba DeLay.

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#934174 --- 12/09/08 11:55 AM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: threeputt]
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#934177 --- 12/09/08 11:58 AM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: threeputt]
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And with ... Jefferson, the Senator who sold his Senate career for 90 grand in cold cash.



And with Murtha ... the "unindicted co conspiracer of ABSCAM fame" ... who was offered bribes by fake Arab Shieks but turned them down "AT THIS TIME", and did not tell anyone about the illegal activity he was contemplating.

And Barney Frank ... whose boyfriend ran a male prostitution ring out of Franks plush home. And rejected appeals for several years to reign in Fannie Mae and Freddy Macs' loans to crack dealers, criminals and homeless people making only panhandled money for more booze. ( way to go Frank )

Makes the guy in the toilet stall look positively almost normal.
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#934179 --- 12/09/08 12:00 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: SkySoldier]
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Representative Jefferson, not Senator.

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#934182 --- 12/09/08 12:04 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: Brad ONeill]
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I seriously have to wonder when you people are going to stop making corruption about one party or the other.

How about this guy get thrown into the jail cell waiting for Ted Stevens? The one that (one way or another) he'll NEVER EVER SEE? Talk about FAIR. Convicted of seven felonies and unlikely to ever see the inside of a jail cell? Am I supposed to rail against REPUBLICANS or CONSERVATIVES because of that?

Seriously, get hold of yourselves. Every time some politician with a D next to his name gets arrested all the "R"s on here start listing other corrupt politicians with "D"s next to their names to "prove" how corrupt Democrats are. When a politician with an R next to his name is arrested, all the "D"s here do the same.

ANYONE SEE A PATTERN FORMING? If the only pattern you see is "on the other side" you're blind.
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#934184 --- 12/09/08 12:06 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: SkySoldier]
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NEW YORK TIMES

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M. Spencer Green/Associated Press
Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois.



By MONICA DAVEY
Published: December 9, 2008


Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois was arrested by federal authorities on Tuesday morning and charged with corruption, including an allegation that he conspired to effectively sell President-elect Barack Obama’s seat in the United States Senate to the highest bidder.

Mr. Blagojevich, a Democrat, called his sole authority to name Mr. Obama’s successor “golden,” and he sought to parlay it into a job as an ambassador or secretary of Health and Human Services, or a high-paying position at a nonprofit or an organization connected to labor unions, prosecutors said. He also suggested, they said, that in exchange for the Senate appointment, his wife could be placed on corporate boards where she might earn as much as $150,000 a year, and he tried to gain promises of money for his campaign fund.

If Mr. Blagojevich could not secure a deal to his liking, prosecutors said, he was willing to appoint himself.

“If I don’t get what I want and I’m not satisfied with it, then I’ll just take the Senate seat myself,” the governor said in recorded conversation, prosecutors said.



SOLD! Barrack Obama's Senate Seat
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#934185 --- 12/09/08 12:08 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: SkySoldier]
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I never noticed how weird his hair is.
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#934186 --- 12/09/08 12:08 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: SkySoldier]
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Don't forget about Spitzer Sky.

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#934188 --- 12/09/08 12:09 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: past tense]
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Originally Posted By: past tense
I never noticed how weird his hair is.



LOL, He keeps on a shelf at night, you know, one of those creepy bald heads.

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#934190 --- 12/09/08 12:09 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: SkySoldier]
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PT, it is both parties that are corrupt.

You know this.

Stop trying to potray us as off the wall like you were with all the Bush's fault BS.


This shows just how corrupt BOTH parties are.
Democrat? Republican? What is the differance when it comes to corruption?


Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh.

No one is picking on anyone. These are facts whether you like them or not.

Now, go ahead and distort everything I said. ;-)



IT IS WHAT IT IS!
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#934192 --- 12/09/08 12:10 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: Night prowler]
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Case in point.
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#934193 --- 12/09/08 12:10 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: past tense]
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Originally Posted By: past tense


Seriously, get hold of yourselves. Every time some politician with a D next to his name gets arrested all the "R"s on here start listing other corrupt politicians with "D"s next to their names to "prove" how corrupt Democrats are. When a politician with an R next to his name is arrested, all the "D"s here do the same.


LOL, thats how its designed to be. No big deal, each side is supposed to be at each others throats.

Of course both sides have their corrupt members, everyone knows it.

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#934194 --- 12/09/08 12:11 PM SOLD! OBAMAS' SENATE SEAT [Re: Brad ONeill]
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Originally Posted By: Brad ONeill
Representative Jefferson, not Senator.


I stand corrected.

EX REPRESENTATIVE Jefferson, now indicted Felony facing gona be a convicted felon.

And oh yeah, GOVENOR SPITZER's sexual spree with our tax dollars.


Edited by SkySoldier (12/09/08 12:13 PM)
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#934196 --- 12/09/08 12:13 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: SkySoldier]
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Originally Posted By: SkySoldier
PT, it is both parties that are corrupt.

You know this.


THAT WAS MY POINT!

I know this - you don't seem to.

Originally Posted By: SkySoldier
Stop trying to potray us as off the wall like you were with all the Bush's fault BS.


"You all"? \:\/

Case in point.

I'm not PORTRAYING YOU AS, as much as you are listing only "Democrats" and only EVER criticizing liberals/Democrats and then yammering on about how INDEPENDENT you are.


Originally Posted By: SkySoldier
This shows just how corrupt BOTH parties are.
Democrat? Republican? What is the differance when it comes to corruption?


Specifically, in this thread? You listing only Democrats to prove "all" politicians are corrupt.

LOL

Originally Posted By: SkySoldier
No one is picking on anyone. These are facts whether you like them or not.


Of course they are facts. But the fact remains that when commenting on a story like this you ONLY focus on the negatives of corrupt Democrats/liberals and never list Republicans to illustrate "both parties'" corruption.

Originally Posted By: SkySoldier
Now, go ahead and distort everything I said. ;-)

IT IS WHAT IT IS!


I don't have to distort anything you've said. I'm right, you're wrong. Of course this time you not only listed only Democrats, but you excused the actions of a corrupt Republican in the same "breath"! hahahahaha

"Makes the guy in the toilet stall seem normal"?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


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#934198 --- 12/09/08 12:15 PM SOLD! BARACK OBAMAS' SENATE SEAT! [Re: past tense]
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LOLOLOL!


SOLD!


BARACK OBAMAS' SENATE SEAT!
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#934200 --- 12/09/08 12:17 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: SkySoldier]
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I didn't hear a peep when Hevesi ran knowing he had to step down if elected, then the most annoying thing is idiot voters voted for him. How wrong is that? I heard a lot of gripe when Stevens ran though. I think in both cases neither of them should have ran!


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#934202 --- 12/09/08 12:20 PM Re: More Democrat Corruption [Re: Night prowler]
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Well, since I live in Alaska it stands to reason I was concerned primarily with Stevens. I didn't even know who Hevesi was until his name popped up on the forum and, to my knowledge, he wasn't running for office while under indictment and then after conviction on seven felonies. I'm not as familiar with that case as he's a NYC politician and I mostly pay attention to Upstate NY issues and representatives.

So was he convicted when he ran or was the conviction handed down after he was elected? All the online articles on this suck - no timelines. I see he won't be serving any time either. Christ.

You realize this is because they are POWERFUL MEN not because of the little letter after their names, right?


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#934203 --- 12/09/08 12:23 PM SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: past tense]
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I don't have to distort anything you've said. I'm right, you're wrong. Of course this time you not only listed only Democrats, but you excused the actions of a corrupt Republican in the same "breath"! hahahahaha

"Makes the guy in the toilet stall seem normal"?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Edited by past tense ( 4 minutes 1 second ago)

Yes. Barney FRANK, a US congressman, allowed his boyfriend to run a male prostitution ring from his own HOME.

Yeah, like Barney didn't know a thing about that. LOL!

ANd I said SEEM ... that toilet idjit's shinanagins were NOT normal nor could they be construed to be.

But Franks' right on track to make them SEEM almost normal.

So there.

Nah nah nah nah nah! ;-)
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#934205 --- 12/09/08 12:24 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: SkySoldier]
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\:\/

You always do the heavy lifting for me - thanks, Sky!
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#934206 --- 12/09/08 12:27 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: past tense]
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If you say so purty Lady.

I have to run.

Bambi is waiting for me back in the forest.

We have a date for dinner. ;-) And he is on the menue.
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#934207 --- 12/09/08 12:28 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: SkySoldier]
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You say so, dearest!

Also, PM me your email address - I have some pictures of a MOOSE you might be interested in!
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#934230 --- 12/09/08 12:50 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: past tense]
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They all pale in comparison to Richard Milhous Nixon.

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#934232 --- 12/09/08 12:52 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: ]
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I wonder if Paterson could solve New York's fiscal "problem" by auctioning off Clinton's Senate seat?

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#934240 --- 12/09/08 12:56 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Festus!
They all pale in comparison to Richard Milhous Nixon.


Dickie was misunderstood...
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#934242 --- 12/09/08 12:58 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: ]
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LOL some want Carolyn Kennedy to get it.

Now thats funny. Although she is less qualifed then HC, maybe she would not be as shrill.

And hell, it could not get much worse
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#934247 --- 12/09/08 01:07 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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Ooops: Craig's guilty plea stands.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/09/craig.plea/index.html

I had to laugh at the comment that his tapping of his foot was freedom of speech. I suppose it could be considered expression his freedom of speech to tell the occupant of the next stall that he wanted to do the nasty with him...
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#934263 --- 12/09/08 01:30 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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LOL some want Carolyn Kennedy to get it.

Now thats funny. Although she is less qualifed then HC, maybe she would not be as shrill.

And hell, it could not get much worse



Sure it could. We could get that worthless Rudy.

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#934264 --- 12/09/08 01:31 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: ]
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Nah the dems wont have any of that.

It will be a pinko.
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#934268 --- 12/09/08 01:35 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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Although he is pretty in pink
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#934299 --- 12/09/08 02:50 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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LOL some want Carolyn Kennedy to get it.

Now thats funny. Although she is less qualifed then HC, maybe she would not be as shrill.

And hell, it could not get much worse


Those Kennedy's are all like bad penny's they keep coming back.
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#934305 --- 12/09/08 03:01 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: HarleyBobT]
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Ahh the lives of the Rich and Famous.
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#934334 --- 12/09/08 03:27 PM Re: SOLD! Barack's Senate Seat! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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Indeed, and the family values hypocrites.
Minnesota court rejects Sen. Craig's appeal
By Erika Bolstad
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WASHINGTON --

WASHINGTON — The Minnesota Court of Appeals has turned down Sen. Larry Craig's effort to undo his guilty plea, scuttling the Idaho Republican's argument that the plea wasn't valid because he'd mailed it in rather than appearing in court in person.

Craig, who's retiring this month from the Senate seat he's held since 1990, pleaded guilty in August 2007 to misdemeanor disorderly conduct in connection with a sex sting at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport earlier in the summer.

After an undercover officer arrested him, Craig didn't consult a lawyer. He pleaded guilty and paid a $575 fine through the mail, following a phone conversation with the prosecutor. Craig didn't seek to overturn his plea until his arrest became public in the weeks afterward.

A lower court judge turned down his initial attempt to reverse his plea, and Craig appealed that decision to the Minnesota Court of Appeals.

Craig said in a statement that he was "extremely disappointed" by the Court of Appeals' decision and disagreed with its conclusion. He added that he remains steadfast in his belief that "nothing criminal or improper occurred at the Minneapolis airport."

"I maintain my innocence, and currently my attorneys and I are reviewing the decision and looking into the possibility of appealing," Craig said. "I would like to thank all of those who have continued to support me and my family throughout this difficult time."

Craig has 30 days to ask the Minnesota Supreme Court to review the Court of Appeals decision.

In front of the appellate court earlier this fall, Craig's lawyers argued that mailed-in guilty pleas don't contain sufficient evidence to allow a court to find that a crime was committed. The appeals court disagreed, saying that a guilty plea is "not invalid merely because it is entered in writing."

The court also disagreed with Craig's argument that the record doesn't show that because there's no signature on the paperwork, the lower court judge who accepted his plea never reviewed the full complaint by the arresting officer with detailed information about his arrest.

Craig didn't provide the Court of Appeals with a transcript of the court proceedings the day that the lower court judge accepted the plea, the justices noted. So, the appeals court wrote, it had no way of determining whether a judge reviewed everything, including the full complaint written up by the arresting officer.

That made moot the point that Craig's lawyers were hoping to make: that there was no evidence in the record reviewed by the judge who accepted Craig's guilty plea that he was in the bathroom for anything other than the legitimate reason.

The appellate court also was unsympathetic to Craig's argument that his conduct in the bathroom that day was protected by free speech. The disorderly conduct statutes are not overly broad, the court found, because the law requires that someone who's charged with such an offense be aware that his or her language or conduct could arouse "alarm, anger or resentment" in others.

Craig's conduct was "invasive of the privacy of another and may properly be prohibited as disorderly conduct," the court found.

"A person using a restroom stall is such a 'captive' audience with substantial privacy interests that would be intolerably invaded even by communications less potentially offensive than sexual solicitations," the justices wrote.

Earlier this year, the Senate Ethics Committee chastised Craig with a letter of public admonishment and described his arrest as "improper conduct" reflecting poorly on the U.S. Senate.

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