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#930098 --- 12/03/08 06:13 PM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Joe the Troller]
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Yes, and we all will come bearing gifts.
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#930124 --- 12/03/08 06:38 PM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Buddy]
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I'd hate to see what the gifts are from the 3 of you!
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#930268 --- 12/03/08 08:41 PM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Della]
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provide, protect and sacrifice, that is what my gifts would be.
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#930380 --- 12/04/08 04:13 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Buddy]
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HA!
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#930648 --- 12/04/08 07:47 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Eomer]
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Ok there is more. Ha Ha!!!
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#930654 --- 12/04/08 07:58 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Della]
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Originally Posted By: Della
I'd hate to see what the gifts are from the 3 of you!



I bring you:

Understanding
Compassion
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#930699 --- 12/04/08 08:58 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: ]
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Aww you guys are the best \:\)
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#930721 --- 12/04/08 09:32 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Ranger]
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The chart shows that NYSEG fixed is around $0.0969/kWh .


Is this for supply or supply and deliver?



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#930724 --- 12/04/08 09:33 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Ranger]
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The chart shows that NYSEG fixed is around $0.0969/kWh .


Is this for supply or supply and deliver?



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#930738 --- 12/04/08 09:46 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Festus!
Originally Posted By: Della
I'd hate to see what the gifts are from the 3 of you!



I bring you:

Understanding
Compassion
Affection


You forgot your best features, gas, excessive ear wax, and that lone soldier, the toof in front.
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#930761 --- 12/04/08 10:17 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Buddy]
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Originally Posted By: Buddy
Originally Posted By: Festus!
Originally Posted By: Della
I'd hate to see what the gifts are from the 3 of you!



I bring you:

Understanding
Compassion
Affection


You forgot your best features, gas, excessive ear wax, and that lone soldier, the toof in front.



For Buddy I bring:

MY MIL!!!!!!!!!

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#931329 --- 12/05/08 05:46 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Ranger]
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Originally Posted By: Ranger
... maybe we can find out some actual rates from our current bills...


Variable

Last bill had a supply charge of $0.065 for electric.
NYSEG fixed price on the chart you posted was around $0.098
The fixed price is approximately a 50% increase from the variable. The price of electricity will usually stay low/constant for the 9 months of the year (Sept-May) as these are not the summer months or high demand.
I would rather pay a 50% reduction for 9 months and take a small risk that the summer rates may increase but they would still have to increase greater than 50% before the 9 month savings would be erased.

The economy is slowing and the price should stay constant or decline.

I read an article saying that NYSEG told the PSC that people chose the fixed price when "Voice your Choice" first came out but most people did not understand the confusing process and just let it go into the default rate which was the fixed price. I believe that the default rate is now the variable rate as the PSC wanted to see if people fell back on the default or if they actually chose their price.

The price that I would be more concerned with is the price of natural gas. The price of natural gas spiked from Katrina and still has not gone down. The price of natural gas is trading at $5.805 down from $15 during Katrina. Ask NYSEG why natural gas has not gone down the same amount?

Heating oil trading @ $1.51
Oil down @ $43
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#931388 --- 12/05/08 06:57 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: bluezone]
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Our house is totally electric. It heats up quickly. We keep thermostat at 68. Every room has its own thermostat so we can turn off heat in unused rooms. I have hung velvet curtains in open doorways that can be shut to keep out drafts. The reason I say drafts is that we have a multi- level "open style" home. We are well insulated and have vinyl siding, new windows and the like which took a few years to have done, but it makes a world of difference in the warmth inside. I do miss having a fireplace but realize that in the past the heat went up the chimney. But, they are beautiful and would still love to have one.

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#931412 --- 12/05/08 07:29 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Snow Lion]
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I chose variable the first year and kept track of the rate compared to the fixed price. My variable rate was always way lower than the fixed price. I have since continued with the variable rate.

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#932189 --- 12/06/08 07:48 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Snow Lion]
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Originally Posted By: Snow Lion
Our house is totally electric.



Must be expensive to heat with electric.
Do you have a day/night meter?

Do you have a pond near the home?

Originally Posted By: Snow Lion

I do miss having a fireplace but realize that in the past the heat went up the chimney. But, they are beautiful and would still love to have one.




A glass enclosure keeps most of the homes heating from going up the chimney flue.


http://dnr.louisiana.gov/sec/execdiv/tec...lace/index.html







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#933647 --- 12/08/08 04:38 PM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: nascarfan]
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natural gas trading @ $5.61 down from $15.
Will NYSEG pass along the savings?????
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#934003 --- 12/09/08 06:00 AM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: bluezone]
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Re: being totally electric......figured the cost for this year and it was $2340. We have zoned heating. No pond and no fireplace. Have had two homes with fireplaces in the past. Thanks for the link....

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#934233 --- 12/09/08 12:53 PM Re: Voice Your Choice [Re: Snow Lion]
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I was thinking that it may be less expensive if you had a geothermal heat pump to heat the home. If you know someone that has a backhoe then the installation cost would be far less. The heat pump should lower your bills by 50%-80% depending on your usage. The heat pump could be used to cool the home in the summer and also be used to heat the domestic hot water thereby eliminating an electric hot water tank.
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