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#922191 --- 11/20/08 06:52 PM President-elect promised change, Right!
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President-elect promised change, picking insiders




By KEVIN FREKING


WASHINGTON (AP) - President-elect Barack Obama promised the voters change but has started his Cabinet selection process by naming several Washington insiders to top posts.

Obama is enlisting former Senate leader Tom Daschle as his health secretary. Hillary Rodham Clinton, a well-known Washington personality, seemed more likely than ever to be his secretary of state. Clinton is deciding whether to take that post as America's top diplomat, her associates said Wednesday

Obama is ready to announce that his attorney general will be Eric Holder, the Justice Department's No. 2 when Clinton's husband was president. Rahm Emanuel, Obama's chief of staff, is another veteran of the Clinton White House.

Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano is Obama's primary choice to be secretary of the Homeland Security Department, several news organizations reported Thursday. The New York Times, citing Democrats with knowledge of the process, said Napolitano was about to be offered the job. The Washington Post also reported that she was Obama's choice.

Chicago businesswoman Penny Pritzker, who was national finance chairman for Obama's presidential campaign, is his leading choice for commerce secretary, the Times reported. The newspaper said Pritzker was in the final stages of vetting by Obama's transition team.

Daschle's selection to head the Health and Human Services Department - confirmed Wednesday but not yet announced - isn't at the same level of Cabinet prestige as the top spots at the State and Justice departments. But the health post could be more important in an Obama administration than in some others, making Daschle a key player in helping steer the president-elect's promised health care reforms.

Daschle could push Obama for quick action on health care reform next year, if he follows his own advice.

Daschle said efforts during the Clinton administration, led by Hillary Clinton, took too long and went into too much detail, giving every interest group an opportunity to find something they didn't like about the plan.

"The next president should act immediately to capitalize on the goodwill that greets any incoming administration. If that means attaching a health-care plan to the federal budget, so be it," Daschle wrote in a book he released this year, "Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.""This issue is too important to be stalled by Senate protocol."

The former South Dakota senator's return to the government will be a vindication of sorts. He was the Senate Democratic leader when he was defeated in 2004 by Republican John Thune, who convinced voters back home that Daschle was more concerned with Washington than with them.

In fact, Daschle stayed in the capital city after his defeat, becoming a public policy adviser and member of the legislative and public policy group at the law and lobbying firm Alston & Bird. Daschle isn't registered as a lobbyist. He advises clients on issues including health care, financial services, taxes and trade, according to the firm's Web site.

Health care interests, including CVS Caremark, the National Association for Home Care and Hospice, Abbott Laboratories (ABT) and HealthSouth, are among the firm's lobbying clients.

Daschle's appointment was not formally announced, but Democratic officials said the job was his barring an unforeseen problem as Obama's team reviews his background. One area of review will include the lobbying connections of his wife, Linda Hall Daschle, who has worked mostly on behalf of airline-related companies over the years. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

Republicans sniped at what they saw as an unwelcome trend. Alex Conant, spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said, "Barack Obama is filling his administration with longtime Washington insiders."
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#922230 --- 11/20/08 07:48 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: HarleyBobT]
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Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
President-elect promised change



That before election!!!

No peoples expect democratics to keep promise after election!!!
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#922475 --- 11/21/08 08:28 AM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: Al Kida]
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Originally Posted By: Al Kida
Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
President-elect promised change



That before election!!!

No peoples expect democratics to keep promise after election!!!


Four More Years Of The Same. Whats Happening Now Is We Are In A Time Slip And We All Go Back To The 90's. We Get Slick Willies Crew To Make The Change You Liberals Want.Ahahahaha What A Promise.
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#922522 --- 11/21/08 10:31 AM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: HarleyBobT]
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As an Obama voter, I still actually tend to agree with the general premise of this article. The whole Hilary appointment makes my head spin. And all the Clintonites in the administration doesn't look good. I have no problem with Daschle, especially because I am in favor of universal health care. But most of the rest of 'em - god. I wish he'd fill his cabinet with rebels like Ron Paul and Kucinich.

I actually brought this up yesterday to a friend of mine, who is a lifelong democrat (I'm an "independent" - actually a democratic socialist, but they don't really give us a party...lol). Her argument was that perhaps Obama is picking the most experienced/qualified people, who happen to be from the Clinton administration. And her take on the Hilary appointment is that she's highly respected around the world, and that Bill Clinton was able to work well with Israelis and Palestinians, so perhaps she will as well. And there's also this perception among democrats (with which I disagree strongly) that Clinton did things the right way, so perhaps Obama's bought into that. I don't know. My take is to wait and see where this goes, since he hasn't even taken office yet. But Hilary? GOD. Come on - it's like he's buying her off for supporting him in the end.
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#922527 --- 11/21/08 10:52 AM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: LaughinWillow]
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As long as it's change from Bush, it's OK.

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#922538 --- 11/21/08 11:07 AM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: ]
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That simple mindedness got this highly inexperienced far lefty elected.
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#922542 --- 11/21/08 11:16 AM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Festus!
As long as it's change from Bush, it's OK.


Fetus you need to go change that diaper you have on, if you've had it on since Slick Willie. man that things gotta stink. ahahah
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#922574 --- 11/21/08 12:01 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: HarleyBobT]
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We will know after 20 Jan 09 what will transpire with this new administration. "Don't judge a book by its cover".

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#922584 --- 11/21/08 12:12 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: Brightday]
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This new president only has about one page between his cover. I hope he proves me wrong, but history proves other wise. We shall see.

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#922587 --- 11/21/08 12:17 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: Night prowler]
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Originally Posted By: Night prowler
This new president only has about one page between his cover. I hope he proves me wrong, but history proves other wise. We shall see.


Yes the Messiah only has one page in his book and I'm sorry to say that page is blank.
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#922589 --- 11/21/08 12:19 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: HarleyBobT]
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When running for elected office without a record you are asking people to judge you by your cover. You all fell for a marketing campaign.
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#922590 --- 11/21/08 12:20 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: wildman69]
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Today his advisors asked the public to temper their expectations.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Obama.advisers.expecations.2.869896.html



hahahahaha





Edited by wildman69 (11/21/08 12:25 PM)
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#922593 --- 11/21/08 12:25 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: wildman69]
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That's OK, He's a Democrat, no one expects them to be truthful .... Do they?

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#922614 --- 11/21/08 01:45 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: HarleyBobT]
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Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
Originally Posted By: Festus!
As long as it's change from Bush, it's OK.


Fetus you need to go change that diaper you have on, if you've had it on since Slick Willie. man that things gotta stink. ahahah



Not near as bad as you.

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#922685 --- 11/21/08 04:28 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: wildman69]
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Originally Posted By: wildman69
Today his advisors asked the public to temper their expectations.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Obama.advisers.expecations.2.869896.html

hahahahaha



That article wasn't anything scandalous - his advisors are saying that people may be disappointed if they expect this one man to come into office and fix the economy, bring about universal health care, save the polar bears, and end world hunger in the first 100 days of his term. And that's true - it would be true no matter who came into office right now. The problems are huge, and as much as the right loves to call Obama the Antichrist, he's really just one guy from Chicago.

The fact is, our economic system is a massive failure. And the only way to fix it involves getting rid of the Federal Reserve and cutting off aid and tax loopholes to bankers and corporations that have caused this mess. But I personally don't even expect Obama to do that, because anyone who challenges these bankers is going to be called a communist. And the largest banks have a pretty good stranglehold on the government, since all they have to do is threaten to withhold credit to get their way (as is evidenced by the passage of a bailout that almost no one agreed with).

I voted for Obama, but I have never believed he could immediately redeem this country. I'm not even sure he can do anything at all, because I really believe we are controlled by the wealthiest people in this society, and trying to figure out what could stop them from controlling everything is just mind-boggling. But I'm willing to wait and see what Obama does. If he even undoes a fraction of the human rights violations of the Bush administration, that will be a vast improvement.
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#922705 --- 11/21/08 05:51 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: LaughinWillow]
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Originally Posted By: LaughinWillow
his advisors are saying that people may be disappointed if they expect this one man to come into office and fix the economy, bring about universal health care, save the polar bears, and end world hunger




No peoples can hold Mr. Obama to his word now!!!

He had to promise those thing to get elected!!!

Not like real promise!!!

'Campaign' promise!!!

Like how democratics get elected in 2006 by saying they stop war!!!
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#922781 --- 11/21/08 07:54 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: HarleyBobT]
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Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
Originally Posted By: Al Kida
Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
President-elect promised change



That before election!!!

No peoples expect democratics to keep promise after election!!!


Four More Years Of The Same. Whats Happening Now Is We Are In A Time Slip And We All Go Back To The 90's. We Get Slick Willies Crew To Make The Change You Liberals Want.Ahahahaha What A Promise.


The whole campaign and even now people wring their hands over Obama's lack of experience. He appoints experienced people to important posts and they're "insiders", which is apparently what you call someone who is experienced when you want to make experience sound like a bad thing.

If Obama had appointed inexperienced people to these posts you'd be complaining about how these people don't have the expertise to be in the position they've been given. If he appoints liberals you'll scream about socialism. If he appoints conservatives you'll accuse him of cynically trying to buy the acceptance of conservatives by throwing them a bone.

No matter what Obama does you're going to try and spin it as negatively as possible. So why should anyone listen to you since you don't seem to care much for debate as opposed to reflexive contrarianism and verbal bullying toward anyone who disagrees with you?
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#922797 --- 11/21/08 08:27 PM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: Reinhart Faust]
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Originally Posted By: Reinhart Faust
Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
Originally Posted By: Al Kida
Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
President-elect promised change



That before election!!!

No peoples expect democratics to keep promise after election!!!


Four More Years Of The Same. Whats Happening Now Is We Are In A Time Slip And We All Go Back To The 90's. We Get Slick Willies Crew To Make The Change You Liberals Want.Ahahahaha What A Promise.


The whole campaign and even now people wring their hands over Obama's lack of experience. He appoints experienced people to important posts and they're "insiders", which is apparently what you call someone who is experienced when you want to make experience sound like a bad thing.

If Obama had appointed inexperienced people to these posts you'd be complaining about how these people don't have the expertise to be in the position they've been given. If he appoints liberals you'll scream about socialism. If he appoints conservatives you'll accuse him of cynically trying to buy the acceptance of conservatives by throwing them a bone.

No matter what Obama does you're going to try and spin it as negatively as possible. So why should anyone listen to you since you don't seem to care much for debate as opposed to reflexive contrarianism and verbal bullying toward anyone who disagrees with you?

RF I don't have to spin anything, he's doing the spinning himself. And it's funny to watch.ahahahah
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#922925 --- 11/22/08 07:31 AM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: HarleyBobT]
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Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
Originally Posted By: Reinhart Faust
Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
Originally Posted By: Al Kida
Originally Posted By: HarleyBobT
President-elect promised change



That before election!!!

No peoples expect democratics to keep promise after election!!!


Four More Years Of The Same. Whats Happening Now Is We Are In A Time Slip And We All Go Back To The 90's. We Get Slick Willies Crew To Make The Change You Liberals Want.Ahahahaha What A Promise.


The whole campaign and even now people wring their hands over Obama's lack of experience. He appoints experienced people to important posts and they're "insiders", which is apparently what you call someone who is experienced when you want to make experience sound like a bad thing.

If Obama had appointed inexperienced people to these posts you'd be complaining about how these people don't have the expertise to be in the position they've been given. If he appoints liberals you'll scream about socialism. If he appoints conservatives you'll accuse him of cynically trying to buy the acceptance of conservatives by throwing them a bone.

No matter what Obama does you're going to try and spin it as negatively as possible. So why should anyone listen to you since you don't seem to care much for debate as opposed to reflexive contrarianism and verbal bullying toward anyone who disagrees with you?

RF I don't have to spin anything, he's doing the spinning himself. And it's funny to watch.ahahahah


RF makes some excellent points. And you have no response, Harley, except to say it is funny? That is sad. Your response is like that of a third grader responding to a college professor. Your response is pathetic. Why do you bother?
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#922976 --- 11/22/08 09:57 AM Re: President-elect promised change, Right! [Re: Reinhart Faust]
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Originally Posted By: Reinhart Faust
No matter what Obama does you're going to try and spin it as negatively as possible.



You mean like Democrats did with Republicans for the past 8 years? How are you Democrats going to make it through the next 4 years? You can't even make it to the inauguration without whining. Buck up cowboy.

Obama isn't president yet, people are still free to feel however they wish.
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