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#88778 --- 12/29/04 09:36 AM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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A plea probably resulted in that sentence.
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#88779 --- 12/29/04 09:37 AM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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Yes, your probably right, but goodness. Now look what happened!

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#88780 --- 12/29/04 09:39 AM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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When did this happen? Before or after the baby died? If before, an argument could be made that the interest of the child in having a father to care and provide overrides the statuatory issue, esp. if he pleads out. An "everyone wins" from the court perspective.
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#88781 --- 12/29/04 09:43 AM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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See, thats one of the problems. Someone goes out, rapes a teenager, gets her pregnant and he gets a slap on the hand. 10 years probation, big deal. Does he now have to register as a sex offender in NY for what he did? Right before Christmas we got something in the mail about a sex offender in our neighborhood, and looked at the address and picture of the guy, he lives across the street from us. He had a relationship with a 16 year old girl when he was 23 (he is now 25). From the info in the flyer, the police and parents found out about this "relationship" when someone found them in a car. Now what really strikes me as strange about this whole situation, if he is a registered sex offender, why is his 6 year old daughter ok to live with him??? We thought the idiot had moved until we got this flyer, apparently he had been in jail all this time. Now that he is back, the loud annoying music is back and his car alarm goes off everytime someone sneezes.

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#88782 --- 12/29/04 10:14 AM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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When did this happen? Before or after the baby died? If before, an argument could be made that the interest of the child in having a father to care and provide overrides the statuatory issue, esp. if he pleads out. An "everyone wins" from the court perspective.




According to the Citizen he was sentenced in January.

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#88783 --- 12/29/04 10:17 AM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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That's probably it, then. They figured the kid would be better off w/ a scumbag father than a scumbag father in jail. And if this girl lived w/ her grandmother, at that age....all leads up to "best interests of the child" considerations.
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#88784 --- 12/29/04 11:15 AM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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Statutory rape is nothing new, it happens EVERYDAY. When I was in HS, the Seniors were dating the Freshman, meaning a 14/15 year old with a 17/18 year old. It depends on the parents, if they know, and if they want to press charges.

Then there are the girls that LIE abour their age, they say they are 18, to get the older guy, what happens if he then gets her pregnant? Statutory rape, WITHOUT KNOWING IT.

Do they need to start checking these girls ID's before getting intimate?
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#88785 --- 12/29/04 02:09 PM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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seriously...its gonna have to start!! sad, but true!!! I have seen these girls at the mall and such..they are like 12 or 13 but dressing (like hookers) and look like 18 or 19. SCARY!! My parents would have killed me!

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#88786 --- 12/29/04 06:29 PM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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I see girls every day in the summer dressing like hookers. I have a real hard time understanding how the parents can allow them to walk out the door with their skirts hiked up to the ar$$,black boots, 4 inches of makeup on. Its disgusting.

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#88787 --- 12/30/04 05:22 PM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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yeah, but if the moms try to discipline the girls, they hollar abuse or whatever, and the parents are given grief so what then? sigh....the kids simply do not see the long range results of what they are doing.
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#88788 --- 12/31/04 04:22 PM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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I see girls every day in the summer dressing like hookers. I have a real hard time understanding how the parents can allow them to walk out the door with their skirts hiked up to the ar$$,black boots, 4 inches of makeup on. Its disgusting.



A lot of kids are getting themselves dressed and out the door on their own these days. Mom or Dad are already at work or else too rushed to take a good look at the trashy way their daughter is dressed. OR, as has been the habit for many many years, they are re-dressing after they leave the house. Any way you look at it, these girls have been watching too much Britney Spears and think they look "hot. So sad.

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#88789 --- 12/31/04 04:24 PM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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yeah, but if the moms try to discipline the girls, they hollar abuse or whatever, and the parents are given grief so what then? sigh....the kids simply do not see the long range results of what they are doing.




I can recall "giving my parents grief" and i think they gave me a crack in the mouth and a grounding in return. It seems like most parents are either too tired or too busy to care about discipline or laying down the law and then enforcing it. Ever read that Dear Abby essay, something about "I have the worst parents in the world..."? It says volumes!

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#88790 --- 12/31/04 05:27 PM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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oh the grounding...I dreaded that as much as "I'm disappointed in you"
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#88791 --- 12/31/04 06:58 PM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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Well I did question some friends I know that both parents also work, and are gone before their kids leave for school. And you are probably correct. The kids either dress the way they want, because they are also home from school before the parents get home from work also. Or if the parents are home, they hike up the skirts and plaster on the makeup after they leave the house. When I was in school there was a dean of "women" who stood in the hall and visually "measured" the length of your skirts. Lots would get sent home.

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#88792 --- 12/31/04 08:00 PM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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8 years of Catholic school here...and I'm appalled at what my daughter tries to get away with
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#88793 --- 01/05/05 11:46 AM Re: Another Murder in Auburn
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8 years of Catholic school here...and I'm appalled at what my daughter tries to get away with




8 years of Catholic school for you or your daughter?

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