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#841965 --- 07/15/08 08:16 AM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Will paterson raise the taxes again next year while ignoring to collect the taxes from the tribes?
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#849274 --- 07/28/08 01:00 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: SkySoldier]
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Will the tax loses per year double or triple with the recent tax increase?
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#850526 --- 07/30/08 03:48 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Bruno: $1B owed in tribal taxes


State should prosecute to collect sales and excise fees, Senate majority leader says

By JAMES M. ODATO, Capitol bureau
First published: Wednesday, January 30, 2008

ALBANY -- Senate Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno on Tuesday called for the state to prosecute American Indian retailers and others for failing to pay some $1 billion in sales and excise taxes.
Speaking at the annual meeting of the New York Association of Counties, and later to reporters, Bruno said Gov. Eliot Spitzer must enforce state law and collect the taxes to help the estimated $4.4 billion budget gap.

"How do you collect taxes? If people don't pay taxes they end up getting prosecuted," Bruno said. "I mean if you don't pay your taxes, if your company doesn't pay ... what'll happen?"

Later, after flanking Bruno during a news conference, Attorney General Andrew Cuomo declined to say who should prosecute tribal enterprises.

"It depends on what the state is doing," Cuomo said. He said he wanted someone to check into Bruno's comments.

Cuomo spokesman John Milgrim later said it would be inappropriate to comment because the attorney general may have to defend the state in a lawsuit.

Assemblyman David Townsend, R-Sylvan Beach, said he will file a suit this week against Spitzer and Tax Commissioner Robert Megna in state Supreme Court in Albany County to get an order requiring tax law enforcement on the Indian enterprises.

An Oneida Nation spokesman declined to comment on the suit or Bruno's comments.

Bruno said he supported a "great resolution" from the association. It directs the Spitzer administration to "take any and all necessary action to insure collection of all sales and excise taxes on tribal and Indian sales of all goods and services to non-tribal members ... without further delay."

Bruno said: "Governor, go get the tax money on behalf of the people of this state. ... There's about $1 billion out there."

Spitzer's legal counsel, Richard Rifkin, told a committee of the association on Monday that the issue is complicated and he wouldn't speculate on how it will be resolved.

The governor put $200 million in his budget plan for this year from Indian tax collections. His budget plan for next year calls for $174 million.

The holdup has been the Department of Taxation and Finance's failure to issue coupons so that tribal members can continue to buy tax-free cigarettes and other products. People who are not tribal members would have to pay the taxes.

Town of Lenox Board Supervisor Rocco DiVeronica, the past chairman of the association's Native American Affairs Committee, said he appreciates Bruno's support but questioned his ties with the leader of the Oneida Indian Nation, Ray Halbritter. Bruno walked one of the Oneidas' professional-level golf courses last year with Halbritter, whose tribe has contributed $430,000 to Senate and Assembly campaign committees since 1999.

"There's a disconnect between state and local government officials," DiVeronica said.

Spitzer told the association his new budget would save counties $519 million. But several county leaders and Association Executive Director Steve Acquario said Spitzer overstated the state's help. They said Spitzer's budget will push $75 million to $80 million onto counties for costs of juvenile detention and welfare.

The governor, Acquario said, was counting Medicaid costs borne by the state since the Pataki administration capped local costs for the government health care program.

Paul W. Miller, Madison County's assistant director of planning, and Oneida County Executive Anthony J. Picente Jr., complained that Spitzer failed to account for sales tax revenues counties aren't getting from Indian businesses, as well as lost property taxes not paid on Oneida-owned acreage.

Spitzer spokesman Errol A. Cockfield Jr. said that if county executives say they have to raise taxes, it will be "because of their own choices, not because of the New York state budget. They are threatening tax increases at a time when the public is feeling squeezed, despite increased state aid that makes doing so unnecessary."

Odato can be reached at 454-5083 or by e-mail at jodato@timesunion.com.







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Paterson can you use some more money?
time to start collecting the overdue money.



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#856286 --- 08/08/08 05:01 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Bruno: $1B owed in tribal taxes


State should prosecute to collect sales and excise fees, Senate majority leader says

By JAMES M. ODATO, Capitol bureau
First published: Wednesday, January 30, 2008

ALBANY -- Senate Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno on Tuesday called for the state to prosecute American Indian retailers and others for failing to pay some $1 billion in sales and excise taxes.
Speaking at the annual meeting of the New York Association of Counties, and later to reporters, Bruno said Gov. Eliot Spitzer must enforce state law and collect the taxes to help the estimated $4.4 billion budget gap.

"How do you collect taxes? If people don't pay taxes they end up getting prosecuted," Bruno said. "I mean if you don't pay your taxes, if your company doesn't pay ... what'll happen?"

Later, after flanking Bruno during a news conference, Attorney General Andrew Cuomo declined to say who should prosecute tribal enterprises.

"It depends on what the state is doing," Cuomo said. He said he wanted someone to check into Bruno's comments.

Cuomo spokesman John Milgrim later said it would be inappropriate to comment because the attorney general may have to defend the state in a lawsuit.

Assemblyman David Townsend, R-Sylvan Beach, said he will file a suit this week against Spitzer and Tax Commissioner Robert Megna in state Supreme Court in Albany County to get an order requiring tax law enforcement on the Indian enterprises.

An Oneida Nation spokesman declined to comment on the suit or Bruno's comments.

Bruno said he supported a "great resolution" from the association. It directs the Spitzer administration to "take any and all necessary action to insure collection of all sales and excise taxes on tribal and Indian sales of all goods and services to non-tribal members ... without further delay."

Bruno said: "Governor, go get the tax money on behalf of the people of this state. ... There's about $1 billion out there."

Spitzer's legal counsel, Richard Rifkin, told a committee of the association on Monday that the issue is complicated and he wouldn't speculate on how it will be resolved.

The governor put $200 million in his budget plan for this year from Indian tax collections. His budget plan for next year calls for $174 million.

The holdup has been the Department of Taxation and Finance's failure to issue coupons so that tribal members can continue to buy tax-free cigarettes and other products. People who are not tribal members would have to pay the taxes.

Town of Lenox Board Supervisor Rocco DiVeronica, the past chairman of the association's Native American Affairs Committee, said he appreciates Bruno's support but questioned his ties with the leader of the Oneida Indian Nation, Ray Halbritter. Bruno walked one of the Oneidas' professional-level golf courses last year with Halbritter, whose tribe has contributed $430,000 to Senate and Assembly campaign committees since 1999.

"There's a disconnect between state and local government officials," DiVeronica said.

Spitzer told the association his new budget would save counties $519 million. But several county leaders and Association Executive Director Steve Acquario said Spitzer overstated the state's help. They said Spitzer's budget will push $75 million to $80 million onto counties for costs of juvenile detention and welfare.

The governor, Acquario said, was counting Medicaid costs borne by the state since the Pataki administration capped local costs for the government health care program.

Paul W. Miller, Madison County's assistant director of planning, and Oneida County Executive Anthony J. Picente Jr., complained that Spitzer failed to account for sales tax revenues counties aren't getting from Indian businesses, as well as lost property taxes not paid on Oneida-owned acreage.

Spitzer spokesman Errol A. Cockfield Jr. said that if county executives say they have to raise taxes, it will be "because of their own choices, not because of the New York state budget. They are threatening tax increases at a time when the public is feeling squeezed, despite increased state aid that makes doing so unnecessary."

Odato can be reached at 454-5083 or by e-mail at jodato@timesunion.com.







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Paterson can you use some more money?
time to start collecting the overdue money.



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NY Senate passes Indian reservation tobacco tax
By: The Associated Press

Friday, August 8, 2008 3:26 PM EDT

ALBANY -- A bill given final approval in New York's legislature would require retailers on Indian reservations to charge a tax on tobacco sales.
The bill passed during a one-day special session of the state Senate on Friday.

The measure had already passed the Assembly, and will be sent to Gov. David Paterson. A spokeswoman in the governor's office says there won't be any comment until they have a chance to review the bill.

The American Cancer Society says the new tax could get about 100,000 people to quit smoking.

The bill was passed the same day the Senate supported a property tax cap.
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#859213 --- 08/13/08 02:38 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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When will the county or state step in and enforce the laws against the illegal tribal operations?


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Three Syracuse men charged in $50M gambling bust
by Catie O'Toole Saturday March 29, 2008, 11:12 AM
Syracuse, NY - Three Syracuse men arrested in a $20.3 million gambling operation in Central New York three years ago, are now accused of getting involved in one of the largest-scale gambling busts in the Capital Region.

George Bedigian, 63, of North McBride Street; Salvatore Tumino, 70, of North Salina Street; and Michael LoSurdo, 41, of Lakeside Road, are accused of taking part in a $50 million Internet sports betting ring, beginning in September 2006 and ending this month, according to The Albany Times Union.

The men were arrested Friday in the 800 block of North McBride Street in Syracuse.

Bedigian, considered by police as a longtime bookmaker, was named one of two "ringleaders" in the $50 million gambling operation, The Times Union reported.

In all, 12 men and one woman were arrested.

Bedigian and LoSurdo were charged with enterprise corruption, the state's version of the federal racketeering law.

Tumino is facing fourth-degree money laundering.
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#859325 --- 08/13/08 04:58 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Most Corporations Don't Pay Income Taxes: GAO
By Richard Rubin, CQ Staff

Most corporations, including the vast majority of foreign companies doing business in the United States, pay no income taxes, according to a Government Accountability Office report released Tuesday.

During the eight-year period covered by the report, 72 percent of foreign-owned corporations went at least one year without owing taxes, and the same was true for 55 percent of domestic corporations.

Small companies were much more likely to pay no taxes than larger companies. Still, more than 3,500 large domestic corporations - with more than $250 million in assets or $50 million in gross receipts - did not pay taxes in 2005.

The report said about 80 percent of the companies studied paid no taxes because they didn't generate any profit after expenses. Money-losing companies can legitimately owe no tax, and others can use provisions of the tax code to lower or eliminate their liability.

But the lawmakers who sought the data seized on the report as proof of corporate gamesmanship.

"It's shameful that so many corporations make big profits and pay nothing to support our country," said Byron L. Dorgan , D-N.D., who requested the report along with Carl Levin , D-Mich. "The tax system that allows this wholesale tax avoidance is an embarrassment and unfair to hardworking Americans who pay their fair share of taxes. We need to plug these tax loopholes and put these corporations back on the tax rolls."

The report covered the period from 1998 through 2005. During that time, corporate income taxes as a share of gross domestic product dipped, from 2.2 percent in 1998 to 1.2 percent in 2003, the lowest share since 1983. But receipts jumped after that, hitting 2.7 percent in 2006 and 2007, according to the Office of Management and Budget. That was the highest share since the late 1970s.

The GAO report also found that foreign-owned corporations were somewhat more likely to report no income than domestic corporations. There are several possible reasons for that. Foreign corporations may be younger, and startups are more likely to have no net income after expenses. They may also be in industries with lower profit margins.

Another possibility could be the use of transfer pricing, which companies use to account for transactions between subsidiaries in different countries. Creative, rule-stretching use of transfer pricing can allow companies to push their profits into lower-taxed jurisdictions. The report does not attempt to examine whether illegal transfer-pricing caused the difference between foreign and domestic companies.

But companies looking for lower-taxed jurisdictions often take profits out of the United States. The country's 35 percent top rate on corporate income is among the highest in the industrialized world.

Many tax experts and lawmakers from both parties, including Ways and Means Chairman Charles B. Rangel , D-N.Y., and presidential candidate Sen. John McCain , R-Ariz., have called for lowering the corporate tax rate. Lawmakers are likely to differ on what revenue-raising measures, if any, should be paired with a corporate rate cut.

In addition, Levin, Finance Chairman Max Baucus , D-Mont., and other senators have been trying to close the "tax gap," the difference between taxes owed and taxes collected.

In a statement, Baucus said, "I'm committed to finding ways to improve compliance and reduce taxpayer burden so that we begin to bridge the tax gap, which accounts for $345 billion in legally owed but uncollected federal revenues each year."

He said the GAO report "shows yet again the need for full-fledged [tax] reform next year...."

"We are constantly reviewing the tax code to find ways to crack down on those who are trying to avoid paying their fair share, without placing undue compliance or reporting burdens on honest taxpayers. As part of this on-going effort, we are reviewing the GAO report to see what it might suggest about where to target tax gap efforts," Baucus said.
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#860767 --- 08/15/08 11:42 AM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Duude]
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Merrill Lynch might not pay any corporation tax for the next 60 years, it emerged today.

The giant American investment bank, which employs thousands in the City, has made losses of $29 billion (15 billion) for its exposure to the U.S. subprime mortgage crisis.

But it has charged the amount to its British arm, meaning it can offset the losses against corporation tax for decades to come.

Accountants say that the move, which is set to spark anger among ordinary taxpayers, is legal but unusual.

Merrill Lynch made dramatic writedowns on investments linked to the U.S. housing market. With millions of Americans now struggling to keep up mortgage repayments, the investments have sunk in value causing an economic crisis across the globe.

All big banks have suffered, but so far Merrill is the only one to charge the entire loss to the UK.

The move will reduce payments to the Government at a time when its finances are in disarray. It will also raise eyebrows in the City and cause consternation at the Treasury.

Robert Willens, a tax expert, said the move is not common. "Merrill will have to be able to say that the UK subsidiary was the owner of those securities.

"It does not matter where the derivatives unit is based or where the trades were executed. "The only thing that matters is who was the owner of the securities," he told the Financial Times.

The paper calculates that if Merrill starts making profits again at the rate it did in 2006 - a record year - it still won't have to pay any corporation tax for the next 60 years.

Merrill declined to comment. If the move is followed by rivals it could have a huge impact on government coffers.


This week New York mayor Mike Bloomberg said that many Wall Street firms will pay no tax this year due to their losses.

So far this year financial companies across the world have reported writeoffs totalling 250 billion. Economists say this figure could double before the credit crunch comes to an end.

Merrill has offices across London including a financial centre at Paternoster Square by St Paul's Cathedral. which houses two of the largest trading floors in Europe.

Accountants said that the tax structure allows Merrill to offset losses from one part of the business.

John Gu, a tax expert at KPMG International, said: "It obviously makes commercial sense, though it would be subject to certain legal and tax law restrictions. No company wants the mismatch by losing money on one unit while paying tax on another profitable operation."

Merrill was founded in 1914 and has become one of the world's biggest banks.
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#862713 --- 08/18/08 08:54 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Duude]
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Originally Posted By: Duude
Most Corporations Don't Pay Income Taxes: GAO
By Richard Rubin, CQ Staff
The report covered the period from 1998 through 2005. During that time, corporate income taxes as a share of gross domestic product dipped, from 2.2 percent in 1998 to 1.2 percent in 2003, the lowest share since 1983. But receipts jumped after that, hitting 2.7 percent in 2006 and 2007 , according to the Office of Management and Budget. That was the highest share since the late 1970s.




The report covers from 1998 to 2007 and fails to mention that the taxes where paid prior to these years. A far cry from the tribes who have have to pay during any time frame.
The tribes fail to pay property taxes, sales taxes, income taxes...




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#862734 --- 08/18/08 09:02 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Duude]
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Merrill Lynch MIGHT NOT pay any corporation tax for the next 60 years, it emerged today.


Merrill was founded in 1914 and has become one of the world's biggest banks.


Will ML pay property taxes, sales taxes, income taxes...?


One would venture a guess and say that ML has paid far more in taxes over the past 94 years than the 600+ pseudo tribes combined. Casino shopping??
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#864230 --- 08/20/08 06:01 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Duude]
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Paterson why cut programs when you could tax the tribes and have a surplus?
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#864615 --- 08/21/08 12:35 AM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Paterson why cut programs when you could tax the tribes and have a surplus?
Why honor any Treaty now when you never have before?
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#865095 --- 08/21/08 06:07 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Duude]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Paterson why cut programs when you could tax the tribes and have a surplus?
Why honor any Treaty now when you never have before?


What specific aspect of your treaty has not been honored?



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#866261 --- 08/23/08 06:50 AM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Duude
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Paterson why cut programs when you could tax the tribes and have a surplus?
Why honor any Treaty now when you never have before?


What specific aspect of your treaty has not been honored?



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Is this simple question too hard for you?




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#866503 --- 08/23/08 01:02 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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You can easily research so many Treaties that were broken. But why don't you list some Treaties that were honored and upheld?
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#867129 --- 08/24/08 11:15 AM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Duude]
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You can easily research so many Treaties that were broken. But why don't you list some Treaties that were honored and upheld?


You are the one that made the statement that the treaties were not honor but yet you fail to present facts to support your side.
I am just looking for one aspect of a treaty that you feel has not been honored?

defend your statement or do not make that comment.


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#868434 --- 08/26/08 06:08 AM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Duude]
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#871268 --- 08/29/08 05:38 AM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Duude
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Paterson why cut programs when you could tax the tribes and have a surplus?
Why honor any Treaty now when you never have before?


What specific aspect of your treaty has not been honored?



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Is this simple question too hard for you?




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#877344 --- 09/07/08 11:21 AM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Duude
Why honor any Treaty now when you never have before?


What specific aspect of your treaty has not been honored?



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Still waiting?????


Just name one aspect of a treaty that was broken.


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#878958 --- 09/09/08 07:07 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Duude
Why honor any Treaty now when you never have before?


What specific aspect of your treaty has not been honored?



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Still waiting?????


Just name one aspect of a treaty that was broken.


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#881373 --- 09/13/08 02:05 PM Re: $1 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Bruno: $1B owed in tribal taxes


State should prosecute to collect sales and excise fees, Senate majority leader says

By JAMES M. ODATO, Capitol bureau
First published: Wednesday, January 30, 2008

ALBANY -- Senate Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno on Tuesday called for the state to prosecute American Indian retailers and others for failing to pay some $1 billion in sales and excise taxes.
Speaking at the annual meeting of the New York Association of Counties, and later to reporters, Bruno said Gov. Eliot Spitzer must enforce state law and collect the taxes to help the estimated $4.4 billion budget gap.

"How do you collect taxes? If people don't pay taxes they end up getting prosecuted," Bruno said. "I mean if you don't pay your taxes, if your company doesn't pay ... what'll happen?"

Later, after flanking Bruno during a news conference, Attorney General Andrew Cuomo declined to say who should prosecute tribal enterprises.

"It depends on what the state is doing," Cuomo said. He said he wanted someone to check into Bruno's comments.

Cuomo spokesman John Milgrim later said it would be inappropriate to comment because the attorney general may have to defend the state in a lawsuit.

Assemblyman David Townsend, R-Sylvan Beach, said he will file a suit this week against Spitzer and Tax Commissioner Robert Megna in state Supreme Court in Albany County to get an order requiring tax law enforcement on the Indian enterprises.

An Oneida Nation spokesman declined to comment on the suit or Bruno's comments.

Bruno said he supported a "great resolution" from the association. It directs the Spitzer administration to "take any and all necessary action to insure collection of all sales and excise taxes on tribal and Indian sales of all goods and services to non-tribal members ... without further delay."

Bruno said: "Governor, go get the tax money on behalf of the people of this state. ... There's about $1 billion out there."

Spitzer's legal counsel, Richard Rifkin, told a committee of the association on Monday that the issue is complicated and he wouldn't speculate on how it will be resolved.

The governor put $200 million in his budget plan for this year from Indian tax collections. His budget plan for next year calls for $174 million.

The holdup has been the Department of Taxation and Finance's failure to issue coupons so that tribal members can continue to buy tax-free cigarettes and other products. People who are not tribal members would have to pay the taxes.

Town of Lenox Board Supervisor Rocco DiVeronica, the past chairman of the association's Native American Affairs Committee, said he appreciates Bruno's support but questioned his ties with the leader of the Oneida Indian Nation, Ray Halbritter. Bruno walked one of the Oneidas' professional-level golf courses last year with Halbritter, whose tribe has contributed $430,000 to Senate and Assembly campaign committees since 1999.

"There's a disconnect between state and local government officials," DiVeronica said.

Spitzer told the association his new budget would save counties $519 million. But several county leaders and Association Executive Director Steve Acquario said Spitzer overstated the state's help. They said Spitzer's budget will push $75 million to $80 million onto counties for costs of juvenile detention and welfare.

The governor, Acquario said, was counting Medicaid costs borne by the state since the Pataki administration capped local costs for the government health care program.

Paul W. Miller, Madison County's assistant director of planning, and Oneida County Executive Anthony J. Picente Jr., complained that Spitzer failed to account for sales tax revenues counties aren't getting from Indian businesses, as well as lost property taxes not paid on Oneida-owned acreage.

Spitzer spokesman Errol A. Cockfield Jr. said that if county executives say they have to raise taxes, it will be "because of their own choices, not because of the New York state budget. They are threatening tax increases at a time when the public is feeling squeezed, despite increased state aid that makes doing so unnecessary."

Odato can be reached at 454-5083 or by e-mail at jodato@timesunion.com.






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