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#774046 --- 03/19/08 03:59 PM President McCain?
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Obama's lead over Clinton narrows: Reuters poll By Steve Holland
Wed Mar 19, 7:03 AM ET

Democrat Barack Obama's big national lead over Hillary Clinton has all but evaporated in the U.S. presidential race, and both Democrats trail Republican John McCain, according a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

The poll showed Obama had only a statistically insignificant lead of 47 percent to 44 percent over Clinton, down sharply from a 14 point edge he held over her in February when he was riding the tide of 10 straight victories.

Illinois Sen. Obama, who would be America's first black president, has been buffeted by attacks in recent weeks from New York Sen. Clinton over his fitness to serve as commander-in-chief and by a tempest over racially charged sermons given by his Chicago preacher.

The poll showed Arizona Sen. McCain, who has clinched the Republican presidential nomination, is benefiting from the lengthy campaign battle between Obama and Clinton, who are now battling to win Pennsylvania on April 22.

McCain leads 46 percent to 40 percent in a hypothetical matchup against Obama in the November presidential election, according to the poll.

That is a sharp turnaround from the Reuters/Zogby poll from last month, which showed in a head-to-head matchup that Obama would beat McCain 47 percent to 40 percent.

"The last couple of weeks have taken a toll on Obama and in a general election match-up, on both Democrats," said pollster John Zogby.

Matched up against Clinton, McCain leads 48 percent to 40 percent, narrower than his 50 to 38 percent advantage over her in February.

"It's not surprising to me that McCain's on top because there is disarray and confusion on the Democratic side," Zogby said

Obama gave a speech on Tuesday rebuking his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, for sermons sometimes laced with inflammatory tirades but said he could not disown him and it was time for Americans to bind the country's racial wounds.

The poll showed Obama continues to have strong support from the African-American community but that he is experiencing some slippage among moderates and independents.

Among independents, McCain led for the first time in the poll, 46 percent to 36 percent over Obama.

He was behind McCain by 21 percent among white voters.

Zogby attributed this to a combination of the fallout from Clinton's victory in Ohio earlier this month and the controversy over Wright's sermons.

"And, just the closer he gets to the nomination, the tougher questions whites ask about an African-American candidate," Zogby said.

The March 13-14 poll surveyed 525 likely Democratic primary voters for the matchup between Clinton and Obama. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points.

For the matchup between McCain and his Democratic rivals, 1004 likely voters were surveyed. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percentage points.

(To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales from the Trail: 2008" online at

(Editing by Todd Eastham)

#774194 --- 03/19/08 09:52 PM Re: President McCain? [Re: ]
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With all due respect I am not keen on McCain being president. He is an honorable man but he's too old.

#775012 --- 03/21/08 04:16 PM Re: President McCain? [Re: Teacher73]
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So are we Teacher ... ;-) But we are still trucking. He may live to be 100.

Or more likey, 85, 0r even 80.


Age .... does not necessarily = disability.

I would, however, pay VERY close attention on whom he chooses as his running mate.

America has problems.

We can fix that.

America is not THE problem.

Next time. Vote for the AMERICAN.

#775111 --- 03/21/08 07:47 PM Re: President McCain? [Re: Teacher73]
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Originally Posted By: Teacher73
With all due respect I am not keen on McCain being president. He is an honorable man but he's too old.

We see that more and more as baby boomers age. I know McCain is not a baby boomer. But, age playing a part in the job field. Good people not getting jobs due to age discrimination or forced into early retirement. It is kind of sad.

We have overcome the discrimination by gender and race. Will we overcome the age bias?

#775143 --- 03/21/08 09:07 PM Re: President McCain? [Re: Strawberry Jam]
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I'm still hoping there'll be a miracle and someone will come out of the woodwork that I WANT to vote for!
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress. - Joseph Joubert

#775145 --- 03/21/08 09:18 PM Re: President McCain? [Re: Teacher73]
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With all due respect I am not keen on McCain being president. He is an honorable man but he's too old.

Same here. And I even disagree with him being honorable. I think that is a matter of opinion, not fact. I have many reasons for my opinion that he is not, but I won't give my reasons here for fear some people's heads would explode.

#775243 --- 03/22/08 12:35 AM Re: President McCain? [Re: Animal Lover]
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McCain has too bad a temper plus he wants to stay at war for another 100 years. And he's old.

#775250 --- 03/22/08 12:52 AM Re: President McCain? [Re: Tiger Lily]
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Originally Posted By: Tiger Lily
McCain has too bad a temper plus he wants to stay at war for another 100 years. And he's old.

McCain never said he wanted to be at war for 100 years, his comment was taken out of context by the Dems.

updated 3:09 p.m. EST, Fri February 15, 2008

McCain defends '100 years in Iraq'

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican presidential front-runner Sen. John McCain on Thursday defended his statement that U.S. troops could spend "maybe 100" years in Iraq -- saying he was referring to a military presence similar to what the nation already has in places like Japan, Germany and South Korea.

Sen. John McCain defends his stance on troops in Iraq Thursday on CNN's "Larry King Live."

This week, Democratic presidential candidates Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama both took McCain to task for the comments, saying that if he's elected he would continue what they call President Bush's failed policies in Iraq.

"It's not a matter of how long we're in Iraq, it's if we succeed or not," McCain said to CNN's Larry King.

"And both Sen. Obama and Clinton want to set a date for withdrawal -- that means chaos, that means genocide, that means undoing all the success we've achieved and al Qaeda tells the world they defeated the United States of America.

"I won't let that happen."

Last month, at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire, a crowd member asked McCain about a Bush statement that troops could stay in Iraq for 50 years.

"Maybe 100," McCain replied. "As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed, it's fine with me and I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day."

The remaining Democratic contenders for the White House seized on the statement. Watch McCain talk about Mitt Romney's endorsement and his critics on the right ยป

"He said recently he could see having troops in Iraq for 100 years," Clinton said at an Arlington, Virginia, rally last week in a line she's repeated on the campaign trail. "Well, I want them home within 60 days of my becoming president of the United States."

Obama took a similar tack.

"Sen. McCain said the other day that we might be mired for 100 years in Iraq -- which is reason enough not to give him four years in the White House," Obama has said on several occasions.

McCain told King he thinks opponents are taking the quote out of context. He said any long-term troop presence in Iraq would depend on agreement from the Iraqi government.

"If they don't want to and we don't feel a need to do so, obviously, the whole thing is keyed to Americans being able to withdraw and come home with honor, not in defeat," he said.

McCain was endorsed Thursday by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, once considered his fiercest rival for the GOP nomination.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee remains in the race, although McCain has an overwhelming advantage in the number of delegates earned for this year's Republican convention.

And, as far as tempers, Hillary defended her own, calling it "sexism":

Clinton says criticism of temper is sexism
BY GLENN THRUSH | NEWSDAY WASHINGTON BUREAU; This story was supplemented with wire reports.
March 7, 2006
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Digg Facebook Fark Google Newsvine Reddit Yahoo Print Reprints Post comment Text size: WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton suggested yesterday that her Republican enemies have targeted her simply because of her gender, hinting that Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman's recent claim that she was too "angry" to be elected president was political sexism.

"When you run as a Democrat and, in particular, when you run as a Democratic woman, whether you're running at the local, state or national level, it's likely you're going to draw some unfriendly fire," Clinton told black and Hispanic women at a Manhattan campaign event yesterday morning.

"People will be attacking you instead of your ideas, they may impugn your patriotism, they may even say you're angry," she said.

Clinton went on to say Mehlman's recent comments about the former first lady's temper were a "badge of honor," adding, "There are lots of things that we should be angry and outraged about these days."

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I have already addressed my arguments about age being a factor.

Edited by Strawberry Jam (03/22/08 01:07 AM)