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#753064 --- 02/14/08 02:45 PM Cheaters !
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Belichick has been taping since 2000, Goodell tells Specter

By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
February 13, 2008
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Bill Belichick has been illegally taping opponents' defensive signals since he became the New England Patriots' coach in 2000, according to Sen. Arlen Specter, who said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told him that during a meeting Wednesday.

"There was confirmation that there has been taping since 2000, when Coach Belichick took over," Specter said.

Specter said Goodell gave him that information during the 1-hour, 40-minute meeting, which was requested by Specter so the commissioner could explain his reasons for destroying the Spygate tapes and notes.

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"There were a great many questions answered by Commissioner Goodell," Specter, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, told reporters after the meeting. "I found a lot of questions unanswerable because of the tapes and notes had been destroyed."

Goodell said Belichick told him he believed the taping was legal; Goodell said he did not concur.

"He said that's always been his interpretation since he's been the head coach," the commissioner said. "We are going to agree to disagree on the facts."

Specter, from Pennsylvania, wants to talk to other league officials about what exactly was taped and which games may have been compromised.

"We have a right to have honest football games," he said.

Goodell noted that "we were the ones that disclosed" the Patriots' illegal taping of the New York Jets' defensive signals in Week 1 of last season. Further, Goodell said, they had an admission by Belichick.

"I have nothing to hide," Goodell said.

Goodell also told Specter that that he doesn't regret destroying the Spygate tapes or the notes.

"I think it was the right thing to do," Goodell said.

Still, Specter wants to know why penalties were imposed on Belichick before the full extent of the wrongdoing was known and the tapes destroyed in a two-week span. Asked if he thinks there was a coverup, Specter demurred.

"There was an enormous amount of haste," Specter said.

He scoffed at the reasons Goodell gave for destroying the tapes and notes, particularly about trying to keep them out of competitors' hands and because Belichick had admitted to the taping.

"What's that got to do with it? There's an admission of guilt, you preserve the evidence," Specter said. As for keeping the tapes out of the hands of others: "All you have to do is lock up the tapes."

Belichick was fined $500,000 and the team was fined $250,000 because of the Spygate incident. The Patriots also forfeited a first-round draft pick.

Specter has questioned the quality of the NFL's investigation into the matter and raised the possibility of congressional hearings if he wasn't satisfied with Goodell's answers. Specter also raised the threat of Congress canceling the league's antitrust exemption and reiterated that in the meeting with Goodell.

Goodell also said he has not heard from Matt Walsh, the former Patriots employee who performed some videotaping duties for the team.

Walsh told The Associated Press last week during the Pro Bowl in Hawaii that he couldn't talk about allegations that he taped a walkthrough practice by the St. Louis Rams before the 2002 Super Bowl. New England, a two-touchdown underdog, won that game 20-17.

Goodell said he has offered Walsh a deal whereby "he has to tell the truth and he has to return anything he took improperly" in return for indemnity. Specter said he, too, wanted to talk to Walsh and perhaps offer a different deal.

Goodell also said he reserves the right to reopen the investigation if more information is uncovered.



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#753069 --- 02/14/08 02:47 PM Re: Cheaters ! [Re: RobinVanPersie]
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ok, now I hate them even MORE!


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#753078 --- 02/14/08 02:59 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: Jelloshot]
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They should give th 02 super bowl to the Rams.

They call him a genius in SI, hell I guess if I cheat I could e one also


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#753082 --- 02/14/08 03:05 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: RobinVanPersie]
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Agreed!

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#793960 --- 04/23/08 01:07 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: Jelloshot]
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Walsh & The NFL come to terms. This could (or could not) get interesting.

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#794096 --- 04/23/08 04:54 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: RobinVanPersie]
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Originally Posted By: RobinVanPersie
They should give th 02 super bowl to the Rams.

They call him a genius in SI, hell I guess if I cheat I could e one also

I agree. The fine and the loss of a first round draft pick are peanuts. There needs to be a REAL sanction.
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#794106 --- 04/23/08 05:08 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: nymmamma]
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I am no Patriot fan at all, but if you think hes the only one thats doing it, i have a bridge in brooklyn for sale.
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#794162 --- 04/23/08 06:19 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: Coach64]
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Originally Posted By: Coach64
I am no Patriot fan at all, but if you think hes the only one thats doing it, i have a bridge in brooklyn for sale.

Hire Matt Walsh to make a film and put your bridge up on EBay.
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#807968 --- 05/14/08 07:02 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: nymmamma]
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Newspaper apologizes to Patriots
Posted: Wednesday May 14, 2008 05:08AM ET
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell found no evidence that the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough practice before Super Bowl XXXVI was filmed by the Patriots, as the Boston Herald reported Feb. 2, citing an anonymous source. In today's editions, the Herald acknowledged its error and issued a front-page apology for running the story without adequate verification. The apology, a three-paragraph story in the Sports section teased with huge headlines on the front and back pages, said: On Feb. 2, 2008, the Boston Herald reported that a member of the New England Patriots' video staff taped the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough before Super Bowl XXXVI. While the Boston Herald based its Feb. 2, 2008 report on sources that it believed to be credible, we now know that this report was false, and that no tape of the walkthrough ever existed. Prior to the publication of its Feb. 2, 2008, article, the Boston Herald neither possessed nor viewed a tape of the Rams' walkthrough before Super Bowl XXXVI, nor did we speak to anyone who had. We should not have published the allegation in the absence of firmer verification. The Boston Herald regrets the damage done to the team by the publication of the allegation, and sincerely apologizes to its readers and to the New England Patriots' owners, players, employees, and fans for our error.

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#807986 --- 05/14/08 07:07 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: luvny]
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Cheaters and liars , not surprised at all, and the have the Knish in their pocket
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#807999 --- 05/14/08 07:15 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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NYTF, you got that right. Unbelievable, and disappointing, but not surprising.
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#808006 --- 05/14/08 07:19 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: nymmamma]
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yanks are ahead ae you watching GameDay
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#808009 --- 05/14/08 07:21 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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#808010 --- 05/14/08 07:23 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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I've got it on YES channel. Lot of game left yet, so not getting my hopes up. Thanks for the info.
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#808011 --- 05/14/08 07:24 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: nymmamma]
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LOL I forget that games get to be watched on a regular basis
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#808013 --- 05/14/08 07:26 PM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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And Yahoo stat tracker too, to keep track of fantasy team.
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#808271 --- 05/15/08 08:04 AM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: luvny]
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Ahhh finally some truth, you had to know just because they were WINNING someone was going to get twisted and mad and feelings were going to be hurt because other teams weren't as good. HAHA and whats up with Spector he only makes his on team look worst then ehat it already is trying to point out something wrong with another team to take light off of his sorry looking team GO PATS
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#808280 --- 05/15/08 08:44 AM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: fake12u]
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Not good enough to take the whole enchilada , Go Giants ;o)
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#808297 --- 05/15/08 09:14 AM Re:Cheaters ! [Re: NYTwinsFan]
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When the Giants even come close to making the WHOLE ENCHILADA let me know, I dont even see it happening EVER.......
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