#749831 --- 02/09/0807:30 PMRe: Five shot to death at City Council meeting
[Re: AbuDhabi]
AnneSmile
Senior Member
Registered: 02/01/08
Posts: 9955
Loc: Amusement
Originally Posted By: AbuDhabi
Originally Posted By: Eomer
True, but those people had mental health issues to begin with.
Then why aren't they getting help?
Because the movies show that it is OK to have anger when it is justified and to the individual they are justified.
As for the kids, their mothers and fathers say that there baby is OK and could not possibly be a harm to anyone else. Our world is in denial when it comes to themselves as part of the problem, the "It cannot happen to me" mentality. Of course they feel it is clear when it happens to someone else that their baby had a problem.
The principal of one of the schools said, "I can be a principal living in fear and turn every incident over to the police or I can take action and deal with the children as it happens" So how do we really know who to send to the psychologist? How do we know when the kid is just a bully or a mentally disturbed person?
How do we know to psychos from the level headed every day crazies? It is usually the quiet one that goes on the rampage, the one that no one notices.
_________________________
One resolution I have made, and try always to keep, is this: To rise above the little things.
#749835 --- 02/09/0807:55 PMRe: Five shot to death at City Council meeting
[Re: AbuDhabi]
Reinhart Faust
Senior Member
Registered: 07/19/03
Posts: 6953
Loc: This Island Earth
I normally take claims that violent music, TV, video games, movies, etc. make people more violent with a grain of salt, but I have to admit that after watching the movie Varsity Blues I was overcome by a momentary but intense urge to bludgeon someone to death.
_________________________
Your proposition may be good, but let's have one thing understood, whatever it is; I'm against it.
#749836 --- 02/09/0807:59 PMRe: Five shot to death at City Council meeting
[Re: Reinhart Faust]
AnneSmile
Senior Member
Registered: 02/01/08
Posts: 9955
Loc: Amusement
Its not the movie that makes one go out and kill innocent people. It is the mentality of so called justified anger that makes the mentally ill go out and kill who they 'think' are the problem.
Edited by AnneSmile (02/09/0810:38 PM)
_________________________
One resolution I have made, and try always to keep, is this: To rise above the little things.
#749856 --- 02/09/0809:07 PMRe: Five shot to death at City Council meeting
[Re: Eomer]
AnneSmile
Senior Member
Registered: 02/01/08
Posts: 9955
Loc: Amusement
Please clarify?
What is justified in my mind?
Certainly not that the movies justify an excuse for the crazies to kill, just explaining how the crazies THINK they have there idea's reinforced and justifed.
_________________________
One resolution I have made, and try always to keep, is this: To rise above the little things.
#749866 --- 02/09/0809:28 PMRe: Five shot to death at City Council meeting
[Re: AbuDhabi]
VM Smith
Diamond Member
Registered: 11/29/05
Posts: 38160
Loc: Ship of Fools
Originally Posted By: AbuDhabi
Originally Posted By: Eomer
True, but those people had mental health issues to begin with.
Then why aren't they getting help?
They probably don't realize or admit that they have issues, or others don't, or others can't force them to get help, because nothing violent or illegal has yet occurred.
_________________________
If you vote for government, you have no right to complain about what government does.
#749884 --- 02/09/0809:54 PMRe: Five shot to death at City Council meeting
[Re: VM Smith]
AnneSmile
Senior Member
Registered: 02/01/08
Posts: 9955
Loc: Amusement
Originally Posted By: VM Smith
Originally Posted By: AbuDhabi
Originally Posted By: Eomer
True, but those people had mental health issues to begin with.
Then why aren't they getting help?
They probably don't realize or admit that they have issues, or others don't, or others can't force them to get help, because nothing violent or illegal has yet occurred.
Look at the VT killings, the killer had a history of mental illness and teachers had concerns about him but the police could not do anything since nothing violent or illegal had occurred, to their knowledge.
So what are we to do in a politically correct society and protecting the rights of others. Is there really a way to tell when this kind of horror is going to happen?
_________________________
One resolution I have made, and try always to keep, is this: To rise above the little things.
#749890 --- 02/09/0810:22 PMRe: Five shot to death at City Council meeting
[Re: AnneSmile]
Eomer
Silver Member
Registered: 03/06/04
Posts: 12903
Loc: Temporarily Assigned
Originally Posted By: AnneSmile
Please clarify?
What is justified in my mind?
Certainly not that the movies justify an excuse for the crazies to kill, just explaining how the crazies THINK they have there idea's reinforced and justifed.
The context of the conversation seems to have been lost.
Except of course in your mind where it is what it is.
#749895 --- 02/09/0810:35 PMRe: Five shot to death at City Council meeting
[Re: Eomer]
AnneSmile
Senior Member
Registered: 02/01/08
Posts: 9955
Loc: Amusement
Insults do not carry good conversation
I never said movies caused violence, I said that people watch them and feel justified by seeing, what their mentally challenged mind seems to see as someone who understands them and hence justified in killing innocent people, for whatever reason.
If you want to discuss why these horrific events happen and how to prevent it then lets continue.
No it is not due to the movies, it is complex and I thought it would be a good conversation to have.
If I am lost then please tell me what the context was supposed to be
_________________________
One resolution I have made, and try always to keep, is this: To rise above the little things.
#750015 --- 02/10/0802:23 AMRe: Five shot to death at City Council meeting
[Re: AnneSmile]
Eomer
Silver Member
Registered: 03/06/04
Posts: 12903
Loc: Temporarily Assigned
Originally Posted By: AnneSmile
Insults do not carry good conversation
I never said movies caused violence, I said that people watch them and feel justified by seeing, what their mentally challenged mind seems to see as someone who understands them and hence justified in killing innocent people, for whatever reason.
If you want to discuss why these horrific events happen and how to prevent it then lets continue.
No it is not due to the movies, it is complex and I thought it would be a good conversation to have.
If I am lost then please tell me what the context was supposed to be