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#737447 - 01/24/08 10:40 AM
Re: Gardening forum
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marlboronymom
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Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 622
Loc: Marlboro, NY
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I want to do something similar. I've got a butterfly garden on the east side of my house. I've been thinking about putting up some sort of arbor/trellis for some trumpet vines to kind of hide our out door oil tank.( ya know.... hide it yet leave it accessable.) I'm worried about the weight of the plants on the arbor/trellis. I think I may do concrete footings to add extra support. How far deep should I put the footings in?! (Definitly would want it below the frost line!)
I've been looking through the new Michigan Bulb Co. catalog.....made a nice "wish list"!!
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#737468 - 01/24/08 11:17 AM
Re: Gardening forum
[Re: marlboronymom]
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TRD_Tacoma
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Registered: 09/19/02
Posts: 12929
Loc: Rochester
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My understanding is you want to go 4 feet down for the posts. I would definitely use cement to help stabilize them.
I just printed out some plans from bhg.com for a butterfly garden. The plants it recomments are:
Butterfly Weed, Yellow Yarrow, Purple dome aster, red star aster, purple butterfly bush, purple coneflower, phlox, gayfeather, russian sage, bee balm, Oregano, black eyed susans, coreopsis, stonecrop, iris, goldenrod, blue pincushion flower, blue fescue, sweet alyssum, parsley, and zinnia. I'm tempted to eventually make my entire back yard nothing but perennial gardens with no lawn other than paths that wander through the gardens.
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#737817 - 01/24/08 11:10 PM
Re: Gardening forum
[Re: HeavenlyPlaces]
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marlboronymom
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Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 622
Loc: Marlboro, NY
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I have some AWESOME CAD programs for landscaping, so I'm all set with my designs/ plant placement, as well as what plants to use. (I'm a LD as well as a Master Gardener.) I know there are some fairly good programs you can find at any major book store as well as Wally World. Sierra and Broderbund have two that were suggested when I was in college working on my degree.
Michigan Bulb Co. has some great "garden packages". Nice variety of specific plants for specific designs or locations. ie; "Shade Garden", "Butterfly Garden", They normally send you 3 of each plant in a theme ( sometimes more dependig on the "garden") and send you an actual blue print for placement planting. I THINK they have a special running till the 15th of Feb, where if you spend a certain amount of money on plants they will send you $20 worth of plants free. (Something tells me the shipping is NOT free!) You should check that out HP! Especially if you want something nice and are on a budget.
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#737955 - 01/25/08 08:31 AM
Re: Gardening forum
[Re: HeavenlyPlaces]
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marlboronymom
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Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 622
Loc: Marlboro, NY
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[quote=HeavenlyPlaces
I'm very familiar with Michigan Bulb as well as many other bulb and seed companies...my problem has more to do with space and time. I just don't have the space in my current location. It's an apartment, and while it's part of a house (inlaw type apartment) the landlords prefer I not tear up their yard. I take advantage of the fact that my mother is aging and go help her when I need a dirt fix!:) [/quote]
Good that you can go some place to get a "dirt fix!" ( Love that! )
Do you do "container gardening?!
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#739328 - 01/27/08 08:55 AM
Re: Gardening forum
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Anonymous
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try some pelletized lime and try to stay off from it for a day or so- hard to do with pets and children...the lime will drive grubs out and "sweeten" the soil. (Raise the PH)
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#739597 - 01/27/08 03:48 PM
Re: Gardening forum
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marlboronymom
Senior Member
Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 622
Loc: Marlboro, NY
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kids, dogs and a lawn. yep...know how that is!
I'd get the soil tested BEFORE putting anything down. It MAY not be a pH problem. It also MAY not be a soil nutrition problem. You MAY need to add a 10-10-10 ( N,P,K) fertilizer to your lawn. OR it could just be that you need to put down grass that performs better in those high traffic areas.( Scott's packages grass seed for high traffic areas, as does a few other companies.) If you get the soil tested FIRST, you won't have to worry about wasting money on something that your soil may or may not need.
You can get soil testing kits anyplace that has a garden center. The Seneca CCE should have some available. You may even want to give their MAster Garden Hotline a call. (I THINK that still only runs on Wed.)
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