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#621312 --- 08/17/07 10:07 AM Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud
pud Offline
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To get votes in our area, he vowed he would collect the sales tax from the indians. Now, 8 months into his term, he has done nothing and his spokesman has been making statements that are clearly moving away from his campaign promise. You can tell right now that he is not going to enforce the law, or keep his word. Screw Spitzer. He is no better than the rest of them....another dishonest politician. I had truly hoped he would be different. He is not.

He is doing the same thing Pataki ( who is another liar, coward and fraud) did - allowing certain privleged people to operate above the law.

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#621392 --- 08/17/07 11:27 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: pud]
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New account....

Anti Indian? Pro Taxes?
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#621415 --- 08/17/07 12:17 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Sausage]
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Spitzer Lie? you didn't actually believe him did you? Tell me how he is different then H. Clinton and C. Schumer? People were screaming CHANGE, CHANGE. We'll guess what, all those who wanted change went and voted for the same idiots. JMO

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#621442 --- 08/17/07 01:31 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Night prowler]
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I KNEW electing Spitzer was going to be a mistake! Like all these people who want Clinton for our next president. Elect her and see what you get. She is for self and no one else. She is a fake and a phony. Spitxzer and Schumer are in the same bed as her. I didn't vote for Spitzer and I won't be voting for Hillary either.

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#621513 --- 08/17/07 03:45 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Wow all this negativity about Hillary Clinton. Does a strong woman frighten you?

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#621535 --- 08/17/07 04:06 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Geneva_grl]
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Hillary is not a strong woman, she is a self centered woman.

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#621549 --- 08/17/07 04:35 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Laker]
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Her whole purpose of being a Senator from NY, or any state for that matter, was so she could eventually run for POTUS. Everyone knew she was going to run for Pres. and yet they still voted her in as Senator. What is she actually doing for NY, when she's spending all her time campaining for President.
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#621587 --- 08/17/07 05:20 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Ranger]
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"Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud"

These are qualities most professional lifetime politicians have. Bunch of jackasses that really believe they are doing us a favor!!!!
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#621650 --- 08/17/07 07:46 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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I agree, Clinton is a strong woman. I just wish she would keep her mouth closed so the rest of us would not have to smell the crap she spews.

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#621811 --- 08/18/07 05:47 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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Originally Posted By: justaxme
"Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud"

These are qualities most professional lifetime politicians have. Bunch of jackasses that really believe they are doing us a favor!!!!



you forgot to add RICH to those qualities, now ;\)
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#621864 --- 08/18/07 07:47 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Ranger]
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Geneva_grl, you are all wrong! Hillary is NOT a strong woman. Like Laker said, she is self centered. Ranger's response is also 100% correct. Hillary could care less about NYS. Her move hear was purely political. More credibility coming from NY than from Arkansas. I know of a few people who think she needs to resign from her Senate job because she is more focused on her campaign. Personally, I believe anyone running should step away from their existing job as they aren't able to devote full attention to the job.

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#621920 --- 08/18/07 09:35 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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It was obvious she was running for President when she ran for senate. Hillary is very pro-tribal and she, along with Chuck, voted two months ago to continue the exclusion of tribes from the campaign finance laws.

We can't even blame the city on her getting elected - she won Cayuga & Seneca Counties and may likely win them again.

Being Democrat or Republican makes little difference when so many people vote based on name recognition.

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#621946 --- 08/18/07 11:21 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Originally Posted By: racefan73
Personally, I believe anyone running should step away from their existing job as they aren't able to devote full attention to the job.

Does that include the president when he runs for re-election? Senators and congressmen? You're an advocate of office holders serving without successive terms? You act as if people can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
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#622053 --- 08/18/07 04:56 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Josephus]
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So if Spitzer, Schumer, and Clinton are all bad, who do we vote for? There is not one 'honest' canidate out there. I am not pro or con any of these people, I am just curious, who do we vote for?

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#622179 --- 08/18/07 07:28 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Originally Posted By: racefan73
I KNEW electing Spitzer was going to be a mistake! Like all these people who want Clinton for our next president. Elect her and see what you get. She is for self and no one else. She is a fake and a phony. Spitxzer and Schumer are in the same bed as her. I didn't vote for Spitzer and I won't be voting for Hillary either.


Ditto

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#622389 --- 08/19/07 06:31 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: turkishdelight]
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Maybe if Spitzer didn't spend so much time investigating Bruno, he'd have had more time to make the indians pay taxes. Maybe his warchest wouldn't be as big, but he would have gave the appearance of doing something for the State of NY, and not just the Democrats.
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#622529 --- 08/19/07 09:14 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Ranger]
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He is our crime fighting governor after all. However, he doesn't seem to think what the indians are doing is wrong. If you or I didn't pay our taxes, see how fast we would be in trouble! Just another worthless POS holding public office. I'm still waiting on 'DAY ONE', still haven't seen it arrive yet.

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#622914 --- 08/19/07 09:17 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Originally Posted By: paramedic268
So if Spitzer, Schumer, and Clinton are all bad, who do we vote for? There is not one 'honest' canidate out there. I am not pro or con any of these people, I am just curious, who do we vote for?

There are no 100% honest politicians, I like to see what claims they make, then do research as to what they say, and how they actually voted on issues, and why if it contradicts what they are saying. Sometimes they have good reasons to vote against What they are saying. Bottom line, I am against welfare for people that can work, against social health care as it ruins the quality of care. Dang it people, this is AMERICA. A lot of great people died for what we have defending our way of life. We can't just let the politicians come in and let the world dictate how we are going to do things. I would have liked to see john Faso have a chance at being GOV. It is sad, Spitzer is in and people will vote for him next time too. They have done the same with Schumer, and then complain because it just keeps getting worse in NY. People need to educate them selfs more before they go out and vote instead of the name( Oh, I heard of him. I never heard anything about him or her before, so I'll just vote for a name I heard) Attitude we can complain about the politicians all we want, but we are the ones that vote. JMO

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#623020 --- 08/20/07 07:30 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Night prowler]
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It's the same thing with Hillary Clinton. When she ran for Senate the first time and got elected, anyone I talked to said they didn't vote for her. The others that did, said they didn't know anything about the other candidate either.

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#623054 --- 08/20/07 08:19 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Here is another voice calling on Gov Spitzer to collect sales taxes.

This is a printer friendly version of an article from the Observer-Dispatch


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Posted: August 20. 2007 12:00AM


Editorial: Spitzer must be firm on Indian taxes

Law is the law, and continued delays will only hurt region's businesses


Asked by the O-D Editorial Board last week about progress on collecting taxes on sales to non-Indians at Indian businesses, Gov. Eliot Spitzer came up with an unusual description.



He spoke a bit about the dynamics surrounding the proposed change, and said that state officials and Indian nations have held some "marginally useful" conversations on the topic. And, as Forrest Gump would put it, that was all he had to say about that.



The self-proclaimed steamroller had clearly put himself in idle on the Indian sales tax issue.



That's unfortunate. Continued delays hurt businesses that compete with Native American stores that traditionally do quite a business in selling cigarettes and gasoline.



Continued delays hurt the Indian businesses themselves, which are operating under artificially conducive circumstances that at some point have to end.



And continued delays hurt the very rule of law that is so central to our democracy. If government does not enforce the law in one instance, then why should it be expected to enforce it in another? That's a slippery slope down which society should never slide.



Spitzer is savvy enough to know what happened a decade ago when Gov. George Pataki sought to collect the taxes. Native Americans blockaded highways, confronted police and burned tires in protest. Pataki quickly backed down.



Still, the law is the law. The state has enough resources at its command to prepare for any short-term problems as the transition is made. As Spitzer himself noted, the taxes don't need to be collected directly from Native American businesses, but could be collected at a different point in the economic chain — from wholesalers, for example.



Spitzer's administration needs to draft a plan, communicate that plan and then enforce it. It should also recognize that a number of Upstate tribes, including the Oneidas, Mohawks and Senecas, have much to lose if disruption occurs. The public's not going to spend time or money at a casino managed by a tribe whose members are confronting police. That's important leverage for the state.



The state budgeted some $200,000 in sales-tax collections from Native American businesses. While a tiny fraction of the overall state budget, it's still real money. More important, it's symbolic of the action Albany needs to take to create a level playing field for businesses and to enforce the law.



If Spitzer can accomplish that before year's end, that would be much more than "marginally useful."





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Edited by grinch (08/20/07 08:23 AM)

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#623402 --- 08/20/07 01:24 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: grinch]
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Like I've said he is supposed to be such a crime fighter and yet he refuses do anything about collecting sales tax from Indian run enterprises. Until any land is declared soverign by the government, the Indians should be collecting sales tax and paying it too. At this point, they are breaking the law. 'On Day 1, everything changes.' It's day 232, when can we expect to see 'Day 1'?


Edited by racefan73 (08/20/07 01:25 PM)

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#623439 --- 08/20/07 02:10 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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You will see day 1 when spitzer leaves office. And why are we paying hillary to run for president?
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#623626 --- 08/20/07 05:17 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: esmeralda]
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let's see what happens if businesses withhold state tax, until the indians finally comply. If it's ok for the Indians then it should be ok for the rest of people who do business in this state
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#623654 --- 08/20/07 05:55 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Ranger]
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Just wait til the masses vote Hillary in to be the POTUS, and the dummies will just like they voted for Spitzer here in NY. Bend over America, here it comes \:\(

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#623665 --- 08/20/07 06:17 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: turkishdelight]
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esmeralda, Ranger, and turkishdelight, I'm in total agreement with you. Earlier in this thread, I stated that Hillary should resign if she's running for president. I got asked by someone if I thought polticians couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time. Clinton is one that can't do both at once. I feel if elected POSUSA that we're in big trouble! She is for HERSELF before the citizens of this country. I'm really hoping come election time, she loses her bid. Hillary Clinton- NOT NOW, NOT EVER!

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#625003 --- 08/22/07 11:33 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Laker]
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Originally Posted By: Laker
Hillary is not a strong woman, she is a self centered woman.

You show me one politician who isn't self-centered...
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#626698 --- 08/24/07 10:59 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Josephus]
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Spitzer ? C

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#626701 --- 08/24/07 11:05 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: grinch]
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Spitzer? Pataki? Cuomo?Clinton 1+2 ? Bush , 1+2 Raygun? Carter?

What is the diff?

Is anyone better for their action?
Ask the folks in New Orleans or parents of the kids in Iraq what they think.

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#626942 --- 08/24/07 04:51 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: jph]
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"Senecas Post Signs Welcoming Drivers To Sovereign Territory Along Thruway

The Seneca Nation of Indians has erected signs along a western stretch of the Thruway welcoming motorists to sovereign territory. The signs posted on both sides of Interstate 90 south of Buffalo, alert drivers that they're entering and leaving land controlled by the Seneca tribe. The signs also tell motorists that a fee is being assessed for their passage through Seneca lands and is paid by New York state. In June, tribal leaders announced that they had rescinded a 50-year-old agreement with the state that allowed the Thruway to be built across a short stretch the Seneca's Cattaraugus Indian Reservation. The Senecas said they were charging the state a one-dollar toll for each car that crossed their part of the Thruway, and then sent Governor Spitzer a bill for more 2 million dollars. Today the tribe announced that the bill has risen to more than 4 million dollars."

Tribes continue to break the law yet ALL of out Professional Lifetime Politicians are to afraid to say anything. New York State Laws and representatives are a JOKE!!!! Yet we will continue to return them back in their cushy high pay high benefit jobs!!!!
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#630746 --- 08/30/07 01:49 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: grinch]
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If Spitzer can accomplish that before year's end, that would be much more than "marginally useful."

Won't happen!
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#633143 --- 09/03/07 02:38 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Josephus]
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
Originally Posted By: Laker
Hillary is not a strong woman, she is a self centered woman.

You show me one politician who isn't self-centered...


A must in order to be a Politician:

1. You must have deep pockets.
2. You must be able to lie cheat and steal.
3. And, I almost forgot the Tap Dancing Lessons.

They promise you the world to get you to elect them and after they are elected, it's business as usual.They have their own agenda and if you have enough money to go into those deep pockets you just might be able to get them to see things your way. That is you can get them to stop tap dancing. I don't trust any Politician. I vote, I try to vote for the person who I think will do the best job, but I don't hold my breath waiting for them to do as they said when they were campaining..
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#633188 --- 09/03/07 04:52 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Old Broad]
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Boy how they can dance when there is money being waved around.

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#633246 --- 09/03/07 07:22 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: grinch]
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Originally Posted By: grinch
Boy how they can dance when there is money being waved around.





They rarely offer any answers. They prefer to bash the opposition rather than solve any problems.
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#633403 --- 09/04/07 04:35 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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Watch how Spitzer plays to the highest bidder for the right to run the racetracks across NY.
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#634306 --- 09/05/07 09:52 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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I thought you said that you were going to leave. But I see that you are still here going on just the same as the last time I was here. LOL.
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#634640 --- 09/05/07 07:00 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Okla.ndn]
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Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
I thought you said that you were going to leave. But I see that you are still here going on just the same as the last time I was here. LOL.


I said IN THE FALL!!! I am leaving ON SCHEDULE!!! I can't wait to meet my new governor with guts and a state government not known as the most corrupt in the nation!!! And it ain't OKLAHOMA!!!!
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#635152 --- 09/06/07 11:52 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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"And it ain't OKLAHOMA!!!!" Thats good. LOL.
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#754973 --- 02/18/08 12:46 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: pud]
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Originally Posted By: pud
To get votes in our area, he vowed he would collect the sales tax from the indians. Now, 8 months into his term, he has done nothing and his spokesman has been making statements that are clearly moving away from his campaign promise. You can tell right now that he is not going to enforce the law, or keep his word. Screw Spitzer. He is no better than the rest of them....another dishonest politician. I had truly hoped he would be different. He is not.

He is doing the same thing Pataki ( who is another liar, coward and fraud) did - allowing certain privleged people to operate above the law.



He must not know how to print up them there tax stamps?



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#757657 --- 02/22/08 07:38 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: bluezone]
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Spitzer wants to negotiate? The indians have lost every courtcase in the state and US Supreme Court, but he thinks he needs to negotiate? What a *****. If you or I didn't pay taxes he would take our property and be selling it off at auction before you knew it. These professional lifetime politicians could care less what we think or want!!!

http://www.fingerlakes1.com/wireready/st...ound_062725.php


Edited by FL1 Mod 2 (02/25/08 09:02 AM)
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#760068 --- 02/26/08 07:23 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Ranger]
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Spitzer just endorsed Hillary. That should help!!!! Betcha she couldn't wait to get that losers endorsement.
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#760404 --- 02/26/08 04:18 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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Originally Posted By: justaxme
Spitzer just endorsed Hillary. That should help!!!! Betcha she couldn't wait to get that losers endorsement.
One big loser helping another big loser. We'll just half to deal with Idiot for a little under 3 more years before we can send him packing. I just hope the upstate voters remember all the sticking it to us he has done and not re-elect him.


Edited by racefan73 (02/26/08 04:19 PM)

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#760514 --- 02/26/08 07:12 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Originally Posted By: racefan73
Originally Posted By: justaxme
Spitzer just endorsed Hillary. That should help!!!! Betcha she couldn't wait to get that losers endorsement.
One big loser helping another big loser. We'll just half to deal with Idiot for a little under 3 more years before we can send him packing. I just hope the upstate voters remember all the sticking it to us he has done and not re-elect him.


He is a jackass, like most politicians. I heard him say on TV that he was doing a great job and all the right things. His approval ratings are in the toilet, but he's convinced himself he knows better than the people that elected him. That's standard professional lifetime politician mindset. Vote him OUT!!!!


Edited by justaxme (02/26/08 07:14 PM)
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#760598 --- 02/26/08 10:20 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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Yeah, he's doing a great job, if you live in New York City. Wants to take away from upstate and give to them. Politics as usual, alot of lip service to get the job, then they get a case of amnesia and forget what they promised the voters. The stupid give the illegals a license idea that tanked, fortunately. Wants to take NYS Troopers out of smaller schools and put them in the NYC schools because the schools up here don't have the problems like in NYC Schools. Well duh, the reason for the lack of problems in schools up here is because of the police presense. Yeah, this guy is real smart!


Edited by racefan73 (02/26/08 10:25 PM)

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#760693 --- 02/27/08 02:42 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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I say government should be separate for NYS and NYC....why should we foot their bill? He can go packing and take 2 additionals with him.......hmmmm, let's see, Arkansas direction

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#760788 --- 02/27/08 06:37 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: mom2five]
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mom2five, you wouldn't happen to be talking about the highly loved clinton family would you? There's two more losers I sure didn't vote for. Also, I just love how we, taxpayers have been paying her to trek all over the country in her quest to be the next POTUSA. I think she should have resigned from the US Senate job, as she is of no use to us. Don't you wish you could have a job where you don't show up to work but make big bucks to tour the USA for yourself? It shouldn't surprise us that idiot endorsed her. One lazy loser backing another lazy loser.

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#760791 --- 02/27/08 06:44 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Originally Posted By: racefan73
mom2five, you wouldn't happen to be talking about the highly loved clinton family would you? There's two more losers I sure didn't vote for. Also, I just love how we, taxpayers have been paying her to trek all over the country in her quest to be the next POTUSA. I think she should have resigned from the US Senate job, as she is of no use to us. Don't you wish you could have a job where you don't show up to work but make big bucks to tour the USA for yourself? It shouldn't surprise us that idiot endorsed her. One lazy loser backing another lazy loser.


I totally agree. And don't forget the other benefits!!! What other job gives you the health care benefits and retirement package that the rest of us can only dream of. I am still amazed that the benefits of being a politician don't attract a better class of people.

And all of these clowns REALLY BELIEVE they are doing a great job and doing us a favor by being in office.


Edited by justaxme (02/27/08 07:06 AM)
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#760808 --- 02/27/08 07:13 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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Will clinton ask spitzer to be her vice president?

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#761261 --- 02/27/08 05:24 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Don't forget White Water.......I'm sorry, but if you are involved in something that big-----WHY can you run for office? Didn't need that coming to NY

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#761262 --- 02/27/08 05:27 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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Yeah, and us lower class residents have to go without or pay a much too high insurance........all because we don't qualify under guidelines like some of the ones that love to use the system. I am not saying that all people aren't deserving---there are those who could get off their rumps and work, but choose not to since they can milk the system.

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#761263 --- 02/27/08 05:28 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: bluezone]
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make a good pair....wonder if Billy would like to be on the other end of the fence.....

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#761453 --- 02/27/08 09:47 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: mom2five]
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Originally Posted By: mom2five
Don't forget White Water.......I'm sorry, but if you are involved in something that big-----WHY can you run for office? Didn't need that coming to NY
Because billy and hillary lied and danced their way around this like they've done on other things. As far as for coming to NY, it is my belief that in order for hillary to accomplish her political aspirations, she thought she'd be taken more seriously then if she tried running for US Senator from Arkansas.JMO.

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#761509 --- 02/28/08 04:40 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Originally Posted By: racefan73
mom2five, you wouldn't happen to be talking about the highly loved clinton family would you? There's two more losers I sure didn't vote for. Also, I just love how we, taxpayers have been paying her to trek all over the country in her quest to be the next POTUSA. I think she should have resigned from the US Senate job, as she is of no use to us. Don't you wish you could have a job where you don't show up to work but make big bucks to tour the USA for yourself? It shouldn't surprise us that idiot endorsed her. One lazy loser backing another lazy loser.


It's the fault of the people who voted for her, that she's our Senator. You had to be a complete moron not to know, that she would run for POTUS. So again we get what the people asked for. I'm sorry but the Democrats scare the heck out of me. Their refusal for any kind of concession, voting for someone just because they are a woman, and even not knowing how to use a voting booth.
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#761540 --- 02/28/08 05:13 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Ranger]
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Ranger, I'm in complete agreement with you. I think some of the reason she was elected was due to the fact that people recognized her name. Not too many people knew who Lazio was or what he stood for. I believe the same thing happened with spitzer too, not too many people heard of Laso. It's a shame that in this day and age of technology, people don't use it to learn something. With the internet, it is possible to educate oneself with the information needed to make a smart decision. Way back when she announced that they were moving to NY, I said she was only doing it for political reasons. She is nothing more than a carpet bagger and has no genuine interest in NY or the people.

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#761581 --- 02/28/08 06:05 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Will clinton ask spitzer to be her vice president?





Don't scare me like that!
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#762392 --- 02/29/08 07:16 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: VM Smith]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Will clinton ask spitzer to be her vice president?





Don't scare me like that!


What has clinton done for NY?

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#762704 --- 02/29/08 05:06 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: bluezone]
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used us a stepping stone for her own political ambitions
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#762707 --- 02/29/08 05:08 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: VM Smith
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Will clinton ask spitzer to be her vice president?





Don't scare me like that!


What has clinton done for NY?

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How bout nothin!!! Ever since Bubba and her left the Whitehouse she's made plans to get back. Then the idea!! Let Liberal NY (City), the state that hasn't met a lib it didn't like, vote her in. And a landslide it was. And she never did squat to deserve it. And don't do nothin but promote herself using NY as her door mat.
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#762767 --- 02/29/08 08:18 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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OK all you Hillary haters, everything you have said about her is also true about every one who is running, Oboba ran for the senate and won just two years ago and now he things he is the greatest thing since sliced bread and is the best person to run this country I THINK NOT. McCain he's been a Senator for awhile but at his age could he do the job, again think not plus he stands for all that BUSHY has been doing and would like to keep it going, more imagrants, more war, keep the taxs away from the rich, and he even admits he don't know squat about the econamy. If you believe they all should quit their jobs to run for office then l guess if you want to run again for a office you already have then you should quit that and let one of you self proclaimed know all the answer people take over until the election comes up with a winner. Bet you and you pea brain thinking would do a whale of a job, or at least in your mind you would. Me, l may have made a mistake or two in my voting at one time or another but once you pull the lever you have to live with what you did until you can change it but let be ask you why did you not vote for the other person. I have done alot of looking at other areas of our country and no matter where you go its all the same, no one likes who is there, mainly because if the person doesn't do what you want then their wrong. You can't make every one happy no matter who you are or where you are and then there is always another way, lets say we let everyone who wants to cross the border in with no questions and replace them one for one with all you people who don't like whats happening here, or you could just leave the USA and find another country that has a better system and when you do and if after all you're bitching you were still alive to do more, let me know. Bet you can't find one. Oh yeh Obba who also is a senator has attended less days at work since he's been running then Hil has so who then is the least wrong and from what l've been reading Schumer has been pretty busy doing what you pay him for even if he hasn't made eash and every one of you happy. Bet you that you would have to look in the mirror to see the only one that would make you happy. I'm glad l didn't waste my 24 years in the service helping to give you people the right to find fault with everyone GET REAL


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#762807 --- 02/29/08 11:24 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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[/quote] Let Liberal NY (City), the state that hasn't met a lib it didn't like, vote her in. And a landslide it was. [/quote]

I love to bash NYC, it's an easy scapegoat. In fact what you stated is what I expected because I supported Lazzio and had a few meetings with him.

BUT - when the votes were counted - Hillary won both Seneca and Cayuga Counties. I distinctly remember because I couldn't believe it.

None of them should be President, but Hillary is fun to pick on. Of all the illegal and underhanded stunts she's pulled - it's obvious she has been smart enough to get away with it. The one that I felt was basically repugnant was probably the least serious. That's when she got caught stealing the White House silverware and had to return it. It says a lot for one's character. And, no, the White House staff didn't accidentally pack the White House silverware in her personal suitcase and she sure didn't go into the kitchen to cook.

Oh, that and all the vandalism they did just prior to leaving.

It comes down to a question of elimination by which ones are worse than the others.

McCain has a long record of underhanded political tricks. I got in a good argument with his legal aid three years ago.

I don't know much about Obama.

But the sad part of it is - I haven't heard ANYONE say ANYTHING GOOD about ANY of them. Maybe that's because they just keep bashing each other.

I'd say it's a tough call who might win until they announce who their VP nominees will be.

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#762832 --- 03/01/08 04:54 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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I know I don't like either Obama or Clinton. A good deal of why, is their policies. Clinton I feel only wants the office for her resume. McCain, isn't bad, but like what was stated earlier he's another Bush. It's not just who will be POTUS, it's getting Congress to stop stonewalling on the problems that exist in this Country and to actually do what's right by and for the people. And I don't see that happening no matter who is President.

But this whole line of posting has nothing to do with the topic of the thread which is Spitzer, and he is cut from the same cloth as Shumer and Clinton, they want their own way, and it's more important to point fingers, and promise the people everything and then deliver nothing. NY is in debt and all Spitzer wants to do is take us even deeper into debt, and then he wants to figure out some way to tax us more, instead of going after the indians as he said he would, starting day one. Albany will never figure out that by having the hightest utility bills and one of the states with the highest taxes, why the economy here is failing and businesses and people are leaving. You put Clinton or Obama in office and you'll have the same mess we have in NY. Theirs views and policies are almost identical. And as Clinton has stated many times, the USA can't afford all her ideas.
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#763120 --- 03/02/08 05:18 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: bluezone]
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"What has clinton done for NY?"

Give me a week; I might be able to think of something.


Edited by VM Smith (03/02/08 05:49 AM)
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#763126 --- 03/02/08 05:46 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: jarhead]
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"Oboba ran for the senate and won just two years ago"

3 yrs., 4 months ago. Plus, he served 8 yrs as State senator, so he's had some political experience. He's served more time in national elected office than Bush II, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Eisenhower, FDR, Hoover, Coolidge, Taft, or TR had prior to assuming the Presidency.

His name's Obama. You did manage to get the other two names right.

" I'm glad l didn't waste my 24 years in the service helping to give you people the right to find fault with everyone GET REAL"

Actually, we had that right before you were even born.
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#766063 --- 03/06/08 09:06 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: grinch]
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Originally Posted By: grinch



And continued delays hurt the very rule of law that is so central to our democracy. If government does not enforce the law in one instance, then why should it be expected to enforce it in another? That's a slippery slope down which society should never slide.




-- Senate Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno on Tuesday called for the state to prosecute American Indian retailers and others for failing to pay some $1 billion in sales and excise taxes.

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=659451&category=STATE&newsdate=1/30/2008





Would the average NY'er who failed to pay $1 Billion of unpaid NY taxes be free or locked up in jail?



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#766188 --- 03/07/08 03:56 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: bluezone]
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grinch, we are not suppose to be a democracy. It is actually a Republic. Here is a lesson for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuninIIpTfc

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#766275 --- 03/07/08 07:06 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Night prowler]
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grinch, we are not suppose to be a democracy. It is actually a Republic. Here is a lesson for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuninIIpTfc


Thanks for the lesson.

What post did you read of mine that prompted this response? I had two responses on the topic concerning Spitzer. I purposedly limited responses as I do not like the title of the thread as the poster(s) may have to prove Spitzer is a coward, a liar and a fraud and that flat statement concerned me.I did post two responses, one was an article from a newspaper, the other a comment concerning money and politics. I did not see anything where I posted a statement concerning democracy verses a republic nor anything concerning Gov Spitzers character.

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#766467 --- 03/07/08 12:32 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: grinch



And continued delays hurt the very rule of law that is so central to our democracy. If government does not enforce the law in one instance, then why should it be expected to enforce it in another? That's a slippery slope down which society should never slide.




-- Senate Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno on Tuesday called for the state to prosecute American Indian retailers and others for failing to pay some $1 billion in sales and excise taxes.

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=659451&category=STATE&newsdate=1/30/2008





Would the average NY'er who failed to pay $1 Billion of unpaid NY taxes be free or locked up in jail?



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This one

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#766562 --- 03/07/08 02:38 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Night prowler]
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OK, I posted an EDITORIAL written by someone else, not me. Those were comments of a third party. I happen to agree with the person who wrote the editorial, not with the speaker on utube.

Perhaps you would like to contact the newspaper that published that editorial and have them explain their use of the term democracy verses republic.

Here is that url:
http://www.uticaod.com/

This is a common error, and I am as guilty as the author of that editorial I posted for I often refer to the USA as a democracy. Thanks for pointing that out.

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#766948 --- 03/08/08 11:41 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: grinch]
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NO Problem Grinch. Thought I would point it out. seems like most people don't know the difference. The fact is it's not the peoples fault. The education system is failing to teach it. Everyone calls it a democracy because we have drifted into it more or less.

Just got word Spitzer is calling for raising tax on gas under his new budget. I hope he is a one term deal.

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#767056 --- 03/08/08 03:02 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Originally Posted By: racefan73
Also, I just love how we, taxpayers have been paying her to trek all over the country in her quest to be the next POTUSA. I think she should have resigned from the US Senate job, as she is of no use to us. Don't you wish you could have a job where you don't show up to work but make big bucks to tour the USA for yourself?

Not to defend Hillary Clinton, but wouldn't that be the Clinton Campaign fund that pays for that, or did you mean her salary? If you meant her salary, wouldn't the same rule apply to Obama and to McCain sinced they are also senators? And wouldn't all of this have applied to George W. Bush when he ran for re-election in 2004, since we paid his salary? Should he also have resigned, since he couldn't give his full attention to being the POTUS?

Incidently, they pay their salaries too.
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#768306 --- 03/10/08 04:18 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: grinch]
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Yeah, and today it comes out he was involved with a prostitution ring. The big crime fighting governor caught doing something illegal! Looks like he is living up to the name of this post- COWARD,LIAR,FRAUD!!!!!! I never had a good feeling about him being Governor.

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#768315 --- 03/10/08 04:40 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Sounds like he's going to resign tonight. GOOD RIDDENS!!!!!
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#768329 --- 03/10/08 04:56 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
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Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud, and John
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#768472 --- 03/10/08 08:12 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Ranger]
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Good one, Ranger!

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#768691 --- 03/10/08 10:45 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: VM Smith]
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We may NEVER find an answer for that

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#768837 --- 03/11/08 08:59 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: grinch]
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I was reading elsewhere on the internet a comment someone had posted. It was in regards to hillary's reaction. She had stated she couldn't make a decision about the matter until she had more information. Now, what happens when the phone rings at 3 in the morning? Will she have to hold off making a decision? I'm pretty sure I know the real reasons why hillary can't make a decison.
#1 She can't risk losing idiot's endorsement.
#2 She stood right by her man when he lied and then confessed his inappropriate behavior.Granted she did so to advance her political career. However, how would it look if she spoke out against what spitzer did? She would look like a hypocrite herself. What does this a say about her and her abilities to lead our country. old hilary just can't make up her mind on anything.

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#768845 --- 03/11/08 09:10 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Night prowler]
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Your head seems to be quite full of itself, but perhaps there's enough room in there for a little bit of actual knowledge. Let's see.

republic:

1 a (1): a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2): a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government b (1): a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law (2): a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government c: a usually specified republican government of a political unit <the French Fourth Republic>

Democracy:

1 a: government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

Notice the word "indirectly"?

We are:

A democracy

An indirect democracy

A republic

A democratic republic

The terms are not mutually exclusive.

Before you start trying to slap people down, you should at least learn something about what you're pretending to be an expert on.
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#768856 --- 03/11/08 09:32 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Ranger]
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“Prostitute Admits Link to Eliot Spitzer; Resigns From Escort Service in Disgrace.”
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#768864 --- 03/11/08 09:39 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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"Also, I just love how we, taxpayers have been paying her to trek all over the country in her quest to be the next POTUSA. I think she should have resigned from the US Senate job, as she is of no use to us. "

By that logic, it's obvious that you think that John Adams sould have had to resign his position of Vice President, when he ran for President in '96, because the campaign certainly distracted him from his duties as VP.
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#768869 --- 03/11/08 09:49 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: mom2five]
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"Don't forget White Water.......I'm sorry, but if you are involved in something that big-----WHY can you run for office?"

Of what illegality was she convicted, that would prevent her from holding office?
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#769016 --- 03/11/08 02:14 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: VM Smith]
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I found this on the internet, what do you all think?? LMFAO!!!!


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#769110 --- 03/11/08 04:59 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: outspoken]
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I found this on the internet, what do you all think?? LMFAO!!!!




she isn't worth any 2,500 dollars, in my estimation

but knowing how much she wants to be POTUS, I bet she'd give it away for the endorsement
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#769171 --- 03/11/08 06:14 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Ranger]
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Hillary is hot.....
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#769181 --- 03/11/08 06:20 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: VM Smith]
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That's what I said......if you are a crook how are you even in consideration to run for any govt. office???? I bet that Spitzer won't resign, if he does, until all the delegate votes come in, afterall, he did vote for her.

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#769350 --- 03/12/08 03:42 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: mom2five]
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That's what I said......if you are a crook how are you even in consideration to run for any govt. office???? I bet that Spitzer won't resign, if he does, until all the delegate votes come in, afterall, he did vote for her.


Right. That is what you said, to which I replied, "Of what illegality was she convicted, that would prevent her from holding office"

That is, what is your basis for claiming she's a crook?

I happen to think she is, but that's not sufficent. In my country, one has to be convicted to be denied rights, including the right to run for office.

Perhaps you can show me that I'm wrong, but I don't think she was convicted. I don't even think she was charged.


Edited by VM Smith (03/12/08 08:40 AM)
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#769366 --- 03/12/08 05:27 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Gio]
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Hillary is hot.....




Huh????
Now that's BAD taste
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#770939 --- 03/14/08 03:10 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: stargatersg1]
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Regarding my last comment on this thread. Just wanted to say thanks Spitzer, better then my wish of only one term. We only had to put up with him for a little over a year, AWESOME! Don't know enough about Paterson yet, but can't be any worse. Need to do some research.

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#770972 --- 03/14/08 06:23 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Night prowler]
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I think that spitwad is the worse politician I've ever seen. Sure, there have been some pretty bad ones, but with his attitude and inflated ego, he's the worst. I hope he gets his due as far as prosecution goes. He has no right to expect any leniency when he showed no leniency to those he prosecuted.

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#777154 --- 03/25/08 06:20 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Boy was I shocked today when I heard that Spitzer lied about his knowledge of the Bruno plane use investigatio!! A profeesional lifetime politician lying? You don't see that very often!!!!
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#777464 --- 03/25/08 10:58 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: justaxme]
racefan73 Offline
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Registered: 03/15/07
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Yeah, I can't believe it either! Hell, I thought all politicians were right on the very edge of sainthood, seeing how none of them EVER do anything wrong!

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#779804 --- 03/28/08 11:01 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
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Registered: 01/19/03
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#779805 --- 03/28/08 11:04 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Edited by Rich_Tallcot (03/28/08 11:09 PM)

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#815904 --- 05/27/08 11:31 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
bluezone Offline
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Will Paterson collect the overdue tribal taxes?
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#818522 --- 05/30/08 05:12 PM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: bluezone]
racefan73 Offline
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Nah, he's got other things to worry about.

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#894884 --- 10/06/08 07:21 AM Re: Gov Spitzer... Coward, liar, fraud [Re: racefan73]
bluezone Offline
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Add Paterson to the list of governors not able to do their job.
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