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#581615 --- 05/25/07 11:47 AM Fingerprint dispute scuttles US-Canada border site
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Fingerprint dispute scuttles US-Canada border site plans
Washington calls off the initiative
By Ellen Nakashima, Washington Post | May 25, 2007

WASHINGTON -- Plans for a screening facility at one of the nation's busiest land-border crossings were abandoned because of a disagreement over fingerprinting travelers, an outcome that has angered business groups in the United States and Canada.

Canadian business leaders are in Washington this week to lobby for the resumption of a US plan to build a "pre clearance" facility at the border near Buffalo that would speed commercial and passenger traffic from Canada into the United States.

Michael Chertoff, Department of Homeland Security secretary, scuttled the initiative last month because Canada would not accept Washington's demand that it fingerprint travelers on Canadian soil who approach the border but, for whatever reason, decide not to cross.

The government wants to be able to take suspects' fingerprints and compare them with terrorist and criminal databases, US government officials said. The prints could be stored in databases for use if, for instance, the traveler seeks to enter at another border crossing.

"If an individual presents themselves for admission and makes a decision about not wanting to come in, there's a reason why," Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said. "It could be perfectly benign. But it could be that they sense that we're onto them for criminal activity or potential security concerns. We have an interest in knowing who that person is."

Canadian law precludes fingerprinting people unless criminal charges have been filed. "Canada will not consider any proposal that does not comply with Canadian law," said Stockwell Day, public safety minister, in an April 26 letter to Chertoff.

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#581999 --- 05/26/07 02:50 PM Re: Fingerprint dispute scuttles US-Canada border site [Re: Retired Soldier]
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What a mess this could become. The Feds should have pushed the ID card for travelers to Canada. MrsO and I will have to get a full passport just to
visit her relatives and friends next year !
I can't imagine what it will be like in some border towns like Calais Maine and St. Stephen New Brunswick, let alone all the tourists wanting to go back and forth at Niagara Falls. I feel like all the honest citizens are just getting hassled, while any terrorist would still manage to sneak in.
Maybe someone involved with Homeland Security can prove I'm wrong ?
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#582208 --- 05/27/07 04:57 PM Re: Fingerprint dispute scuttles US-Canada border site [Re: SW FL guy]
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#582246 --- 05/27/07 07:26 PM Re: Fingerprint dispute scuttles US-Canada border site [Re: Gio]
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Unfortunately, a national ID card seems inevitable. I have had a passport for over 40 years so I do not see it as a hardship, but I can undersand how a lot of people would.
The problem with a national ID card is it subject to abuse. The government, if they want to use it, has the technology to track every move you make and build even bigger data bases.

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