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#598112 --- 07/01/07 12:12 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: ]
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Cayugas give settlement deadline: Indian Nation seeks decisions by July 31


By DENISE M. CHAMPAGNE/Finger Lakes Times
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:21 PM CDT


WATERLOO - The Cayuga Indian Nation is imposing a July 31 deadline on Seneca and Cayuga counties to accept a proposed settlement offer or will consider it rejected.

Its attorney, Daniel French, wrote Wednesday to the counties' attorney, Brian Laudadio of Pittsford, that the Nation is disappointed the two counties deferred decision on the matter when each met Tuesday evening.

“We're giving them a whole another month,” French said Friday. “The Nation, quite frankly, doesn't think the counties are prepared to vote ever. Their representatives don't want to be on record as voting one way or another.”

The matter did not come before the Seneca County Board of Supervisors because it was voted down 3-2 in the Native American Affairs Committee. Chairman of that committee, Ovid Supervisor David Dresser, hopes it can be resurrected, possibly at the July 10 meeting. The issue wasn't on the Cayuga County Legislature's agenda either.

French said the Nation Council has been authorized to sign the agreement, which would allow the Nation to build a casino somewhere in New York in exchange for:
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-- Capping the amount of land it takes off the tax rolls at 10,000 acres (3,333 in Seneca County);

-- Dropping its trust applications;

-- And sharing about $15.3 million a year in casino revenue with the two counties.

“A deal is a deal,” French said. “We negotiated in good faith. They don't seem to have the political will at this time to vote one way or another. They should vote one way or another.”

He said the Nation is “actively looking at two very large tracts” of land in each county, larger than its present holdings of 195 acres in Seneca County and 171.5 in Cayuga. The Nation will file for trust status on new acquisitions to add to its pending applications.

French reiterated that without an agreement, the Nation intends to “proceed as quickly as possible” with its plan to acquire land, place it into trust and further expand its enterprises until as much of the 64,000 acres sought in its 1980 land claim can be regained.

He notes that among “considerable concessions” made by both sides, the Nation is giving the counties the opportunity to be the first municipalities nationwide to share gaming revenue from a facility outside their boundaries, as well as veto power over gaming within their boundaries. He said the offer was not indefinite.

“I don't think threats are going to win the Cayugas any friends in Seneca County,” said County Attorney Steven Getman.

“We knew it was coming,” Dresser said of the deadline. “I hope that this is not misinterpreted by anyone and I hope it does not affect one way or another the actions [of the two county boards].”

He said he thinks there is a possibility to modify the proposal, that the county has heard from residents and he's doing what he can to see that a settlement is reached that will be in the best interests of the parties.

The full Native American Affairs Committee did note vote on the measure. A 2-2 split was broken because member Sean Anglim's absence was counted as a no. Dresser said a motion can be made to reconsider the issue.

He said Seneca Falls at-large Supervisor Chuck Lafler made an extremely important point that a vote of two people in committee should not keep a matter of this importance from coming before the full board.

Dresser said he hopes the supervisors who voted against it - Peter Same and Robert Shipley, Seneca Falls and Waterloo at-large, respectively - will agree to move the matter to the full board “so that a vote of every member can be recorded.”

Laudadio presented the proposal May 22 to each county's full board; they were asked to respond by June 26, which French said now with the July 31 deadline gives each county “two full months” to consider the matter. He said neither has asked for more information or clarification.

“At some point, it has to be voted on or not,” he said.

Edward Barto of Fayette, chairman of the Seneca County Board of Supervisors, said it's just another deadline to create pressure on the counties.

“Since they gave us a deadline, I think now is the time, more than ever, that (Rep. Michael Arcuri, D-24 of Utica) step up to the plate and help out the counties so they can come to a settlement on this issue,” Barto said.

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#598118 --- 07/01/07 12:21 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone


... which would allow the Nation to build a casino somewhere in New York in exchange for:




-- Capping the amount of land it takes off the tax rolls at 10,000 acres (3,333 in Seneca County);

-- Dropping its trust applications;

-- And sharing about $15.3 million a year in casino revenue with the two counties.





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NO DEAL!!!!!

Is the tribe worried that the land will not go to trust?


What is the rush to sign this deal by July 31????



NO DEAL!!!!!
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#598169 --- 07/01/07 06:00 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: bluezone]
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#598297 --- 07/02/07 05:47 AM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: Z Genius Lusifer]
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Here is a prime example of wheeling and dealing.

Graft and corruption at work?

MMMmmmm.


Officials questioned Seneca’s practices
Casino polices OK’ddespite objections
By Jerry Zremski - NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF
Updated: 07/01/07 6:57 AM


WASHINGTON — Federal Indian gaming experts drafted letters rejecting the Seneca Nation’s casino agreement with New York in 2002 and raised serious concerns about the tribe’s Buffalo land purchases in 2005, only to be overruled by their superiors in both instances.

Newly revealed documents, which surfaced in the lawsuit that Buffalo casino opponents have filed to try to stop a casino in downtown Buffalo, show the depth of concern within the federal government about projects that nonetheless went forward.

The 2002 letters said the Seneca deal should be rejected because it includes provisions “detrimental to the interests of Indian tribes.” But a competing letter, co-written by a political appointee who later went to work for the Senecas’ lobbying firm, advocated the deal’s approval.

Similarly, a 2005 e-mail from the head of the federal Office of Indian Gaming Management questions whether the Senecas’ Buffalo land purchase circumvents federal law, but the deal was allowed to go forward days later.

Casino critics said the documents show that political influence trumped legal considerations in the approval of both the Senecas’ 2002 casino deal with the state and their 2005 Buffalo land purchase.

The 2002 documents echo what Kendra Winkelstein, a lawyer for local Indian nations opposed to the deal, heard from federal Indian gambling experts at the time.

“The impression they gave us was that they were very concerned — but good luck trying to stop a speeding train,” said Winkelstein, now also among the lawyers fighting the Buffalo casino.

Several federal Indian gambling experts, however, appeared to try to do just that.

In an undated memo, George Skibine, director of the Office of Indian Gaming Mana gement, listed 13 concerns with the 2002 agreement.

Two of those concerns dominated a draft letter written by Indian Gaming staffer Paula Hart and signed by Nancy Pierskalla, acting assistant secretary of Indian Affairs at the Department of the Interior.

The draft letter to the Senecas said the Interior Department was rejecting the casino deal in part because it limited the ability of two other Western New York tribes, the Tonawanda Senecas and the Tuscaroras, to start off-reservation casinos.

“We do not believe that it should be the policy of the [Interior] Department to approve any compact that contains any provisions that are detrimental to the interests of Indian tribes that are not parties to the compact,” said the letter, which was dated Oct. 22, 2002.

Pierskalla also criticized the Senecas’ plan to build housing near their casinos, saying that was not directly related to gambling and thus impermissible under the federal law that regulates Indian gambling.

At the top of that letter, however, there is a note that says the top lawyer at the Interior Department “has serious doubts that the arguments in this draft . . . are legally defensible. See ‘yes’ draft discussion of same topics.”

The “yes” draft was written a day earlier by Interior lawyer Edith R. Blackwell and Michael G. Rossetti, then counselor to Interior Secretary Gale Norton.

Noting that the casino deal allows the Tonawanda Senecas and the Tuscaroras to open casinos on their reservations but not elsewhere, the unsigned letter says: “We have reviewed whether this provision meets our trust obligation to Indians, and we conclude that it does.”

In the end, Norton did not sign either letter. Instead, on Oct. 24, 2002, she let the deal’s review period end without comment, meaning the casino deal took effect automatically.

At the time, Wayne R. Smith, who was deputy assistant secretary of Indian affairs at the Department of the Interior until June 2002, said Rossetti led the fight for the casino’s approval. Rossetti, a Buffalo native and Republican political appointee with Albany connections, joined Akin Gump, then the Senecas’ lobbying firm, in 2004.

Rossetti, Skibine and the other major players in the 2002 Interior Department debate did not return phone calls seeking comment. The Seneca Gaming Corp. declined to comment.

The internal divisions illustrated in those letters recurred in 2005, when the Senecas sought approval for the purchase of the Buffalo casino site.

“I have concerns about this application,” Skibine wrote in a Nov. 28, 2005, e-mail to Interior Department lawyers.

In particular, he questioned the complex land transactions surrounding the Senecas’ Buffalo land deal.

The tribe’s gambling corporation bought the nine-acre site for $4.6 million and then turned around and sold it to the tribe for $4.

That $4 came out of the $30 million the Senecas got under the Seneca Nation Settlement Act for land purchases.

After recounting the land transactions, Skibine asked: “The question is: Is the Nation circumventing the intent of the Seneca Settlement Act?”

Despite that question, the Interior Department quickly approved the land purchase.

“George Skibine suddenly realizes there could be a fundamental, organic problem here — and yet the deal goes through four days later,” said Joseph M. Finnerty, the lead lawyer in the anti-casino lawsuit.

Both the 2002 letters and the 2005 e-mail show deep divisions between the career professionals who supervise Indian gambling matters and the political appointees who have control over them, Finnerty said.

“It’s a symptom of what appears to be a rabid infection at the Department of the Interior, which has transmitted the infection to Buffalo,” Finnerty said.

jzremski@buffnews.com.

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#598313 --- 07/02/07 06:54 AM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: grinch]
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Okla: Oops, possible delay in bldg the new casino?

Always something isn't there?




Ordinance may be stumbling block for proposed casino

— By Sheila Stogsdill
news@joplinglobe.com
GROVE, Okla. — Could a 67-year-old Grove ordinance keep a $60 million casino outside the city limits?
City Ordinance 9-202, dated Feb. 29, 1940, states:
“Any owner, manager, or person operating the pool hall, billiard hall or domino parlor shall not permit any intoxicating liquor, including beer, to be brought into or drunk on the premises, and shall not permit any gambling in any form to be carried on within the premises.”
A violation could result in the loss of a business license.
“I wouldn’t know why the ordinance wouldn’t be recognized,” said Gary Bishop, mayor of Grove, who believes the ordinance should be interpreted to prohibit gambling.
Bishop has publicly opposed plans by the Seneca-Cayuga Tribe to build a 100,000-square-foot casino inside the city limits, saying a casino could have a negative impact on Grove.
“This is the first I have heard about it (the ordinance),” Paul Spicer, Seneca-Cayuga chief, said Friday. “My first reaction is to say state and city laws don’t apply to Indian land, but I have to talk to a lawyer.”
The tribe has said the casino would employ about 450 people and have about 1,000 gambling machines. Plans also include a five-story hotel with 125 rooms and three restaurants, and a convention center to be built later.
The tribe spent more than $1 million to purchase the 33-acre tract near Sailboat Bridge. It plans to move Grand Lake Casino from its current location on Oklahoma Highway 10, just outside Grove.
Trust land?
“If the land is trust land, our city ordinance can’t be enforced,” said Debbie Mavity, acting city manager. “The question to be answered is: Is the land in trust?”
Mavity asked City Attorney Ron Cates to research the issue and have some answers before the July 17 City Council meeting. Cates was unavailable for comment Friday.
According to the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act of 1988, the tribe must put the land in a federal trust. The procedure must be approved by the U.S. Department of the Interior, and the tribe must have a signed contract with the governor.
The Seneca-Cayuga tribe has said publicly that it does not plan to go through the land-to-trust procedure but is relying instead on claims that the land is within the tribe’s historical jurisdiction.
“In order to operate a casino under the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act, it must fit the definition of Indian land as defined by the act,” said Shawn Pensoneau, spokesman for the National Indian Gaming Commission.
The land may be part of the tribe’s former reservations, but it still has to fit the definition of Indian land as set forth in the federal law, he said. The act does not specially mention historical jurisdiction as a waiver for the land-to-trust procedure, he said.
“The land must be held in trust to put a casino in,” Pensoneau said.
“It’s good to know our early Grove fathers knew gambling wasn’t the right atmosphere for our community,” said Darrell Mastin, a Grove businessman.
“I don’t think our city leaders can go against their own ordinance,” said Chris Ramsey, an attorney. “They took an oath to uphold the ordinances.”
Mastin and Ramsey are two of the organizers of No Casino In Grove, a grass-roots organization that is trying to stop the building of a casino within the city limits.


Governor watching

Oklahoma Gov. Brad Henry is aware of the issues surrounding the proposed Seneca-Cayuga casino in Grove and is examining the laws, said Thomas Larson, deputy press secretary for the governor.

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#598318 --- 07/02/07 07:09 AM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: sworldt]
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Originally Posted By: sworldt


The only thing you and i agree on is the Cayuga's agreement is not a good one and should not be allowed.



And I thought that you said that any casino would be good?

Or do you mean just a casino that your tribe runs would be good? (for you)
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#598384 --- 07/02/07 09:26 AM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: bluezone]
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I don't believe that the prophet Handsome Lake had envisioned such a joke. If this was Westchester County, resolutions would have been made behind closed doors a long time ago.

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#598553 --- 07/02/07 02:32 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: grinch]
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"The Seneca-Cayuga tribe has said publicly that it does not plan to go through the land-to-trust procedure but is relying instead on claims that the land is within the tribe’s historical jurisdiction."

LOL - WOW - Sherrill nixed that in the bud in 2005 resulting in both Cayuga casinos being closed. And the Seneca-Cayuga Chief still doesn't get it? Oh, he gets it or they wouldn't have applied for trust here right after Sherrill won. Maybe he was hoping that Oklahoma hadn't heard yet.

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#598571 --- 07/02/07 03:04 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Well then why don't you and he smoke your pipe together so that we can all live in harmony?

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#598624 --- 07/02/07 04:14 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: ]
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I did better than that. I notified the Grove City Council about the Sherrill decision by SCOTUS. Now the Seneca-Cayuga can all live peacefully with equality under the law in Oklahoma.

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#598634 --- 07/02/07 04:29 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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"In its main features the Declaration of Independence is a spiritual document. It is a declaration not of material but spiritual conceptions. Equality, liberty, popular sovereignty, the rights of man-these are not elements which we can see and touch. They are ideals. They have their source and their roots in religious convictions. They belong to the unseen world. Unless the faith of the American people in these religious convictions is to endure, the principles of our Declaration will perish. We cannot continue to enjoy the result if we neglect and abandon the cause. If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just power from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth and their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction cannot lay claim to progress." -Calvin Coolidge

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#598635 --- 07/02/07 04:42 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer - has anyone heard ? [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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I am aware of the Declaration. My fifth generation grandfather signed it. Thanks

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#599024 --- 07/03/07 01:42 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer [Re: ]
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Okla are you having trouble getting that casino going in Auburn?

Would you like the Cayugas to start one for you in Auburn?
I bet sworldt would like a cayuga casino in auburn...

LOL


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#599231 --- 07/03/07 11:04 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer [Re: bluezone]
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hello BZ. I see your still shoveling the same old Bull S. Have you missed me? No even though i am for economic development and cooperative agreements. This is one that would put the community in the middle of a legal battle between the two tribes.

Originally Posted By: bluezone
Okla are you having trouble getting that casino going in Auburn?

Would you like the Cayugas to start one for you in Auburn?
I bet sworldt would like a cayuga casino in auburn...

LOL


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#599260 --- 07/04/07 05:52 AM Re: Cayuga settlement offer [Re: sworldt]
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No even though i am for economic development and cooperative agreements. This is one that would put the community in the middle of a legal battle between the two tribes.


What legal battle would that be?
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#600470 --- 07/06/07 04:05 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer [Re: bluezone]
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Tribal agreements? Not worth the paper they are printed on.

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Thruway Authority Shoots Down $2M Request
By SHARON TURANO


New York State Thruway Authorities will not pay the Seneca Nation of Indians a $2 million bill the nation issued for Thruway use of nation land in the Cattaraugus Territory.

A letter signed by Michael R. Fleischer, New York State Thruway Authority, New York State Canal Corporation executive director, said the state has provided adequate compensation for the use of the land and no more payment will be given to the Indian nation.

‘‘The Authority has paid in full for the value of a permanent easement for Thruway purposes across Seneca territory,’’ said a letter written by Thruway officials. ‘‘Accordingly, the Seneca Nation has already been fully compensated for this use. Therefore, the authority will not be making additional payments as requested in your letter.’’

The payment that was made, according to authority spokesperson Betsy Graham, refers to $75,000 paid in to the nation in 1954. The payment was made when an agreement between the state and the Seneca Nation of Indians authorized the Thruway right of way across 300 acres of the Cattaraugus reservation.

On April 14, however, the Tribal Council rescinded the 53-year-old agreement, effectively turning the state and a three-mile stretch of thoroughfare into trespassers on Seneca land.

The Indian nation wants to negotiate with the state for compensation — perhaps a yearly payment — for use of the land a few miles from the Lake Erie shore. The nation is also looking at other roads and rights of way for which they may have been shortchanged.

In rescinding the Thruway right of way, the Tribal Council said the U.S. government never gave the required approvals. Tribal leaders cited a 1999 opinion by U.S. District Magistrate Carol Heckman which said that the Secretary of the Interior had not complied with laws governing rights of way on Indian lands.

The decision was part of a Seneca land claim case involving Grand Island, north of Buffalo, which the Senecas lost.

In May, the council voted to charge $1 per car for vehicles passing through its land on which portions of the Thruway sit. A $2 million bill for April, May and June use of nation land was sent to the Thruway Authority.

Seneca Nation President Maurice A. John and state Gov. Eliot Spitzer met in May — the first meeting between the two new leaders. Their governments have been at odds regarding expected state attempts to collect state sales tax on reservation sales to non-Indians.

Spitzer included $200 million in revenue from the tax in the state budget, Senecas have maintained state tax collections on their reservations is a violation of federal treaties they have with the U.S. government.

After the rescinding the 1954 agreement, state Assemblyman Sam Hoyt said the Thruway issue was the Senecas way of balancing the state’s attempt to collect tobacco tax.

‘‘It’s an attempt by the Seneca Nation to try to leverage the Thruway issue to get a more favorable outcome with regard to their negotiations with Gov. Spitzer on the tobacco tax issue,’’ he said. ‘‘I don’t fault them. In fact, it’s pretty creative.’’

Due to the tax issue, Seneca officials reported reviewing all state/Seneca agreements. Upon such review, they reported the U.S. Government never gave proper approval of a 1954 agreement allowing the state Thruway to pass through three miles of the Cattaraugus Territory.

The Tribal Council rescinded the agreement, calling the continued use of the Thruway without nation permission ‘‘an on-going act of trespass.’’

Seneca spokespeople said the nation’s leaders are on vacation and could not be reached for comment Thursday. Nation officials have discussed the possibility of tollbooths being erected for the land’s use. The thruway runs through about 300 acres of nation land.


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#600474 --- 07/06/07 04:13 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer [Re: grinch]
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Ad blitz targets Spitzer

Group wants public to urge him to collect on Indian sales

Friday, July 06, 2007By Delen Goldberg Staff writer

The state Association of Convenience Stores is urging Gov. Eliot Spitzer to begin collecting sales tax on cigarettes and gasoline sold by American Indian tribes to non-Indians - and it wants your help.

A 60-second commercial, paid for by the association, hit the local TV airwaves Thursday, asking viewers to e-mail Spitzer and encourage him to collect the taxes.

"Gov. Spitzer pledged on Day One, everything would change," said James Calvin, the convenience store association's president. "But on the tax collection issue, nothing has. Respectfully, our members think six months has been long enough to wait for Day One to arrive."

Earlier this year, Spitzer proposed that the state split cigarette tax money with Indian tribes. That has yet to happen.

Christine Pritchard, a Spitzer spokeswoman, said officials with the governor's office have talked about tax sharing with members of several Indian nations and will continue discussions.

On March 1, 2006, the state was supposed to start taxing tobacco sold to non-Indians at Indian-owned sites, but the law has not been enforced.

The Post-Standard and others have estimated the state loses more than $400 million in tax revenue each year by failing to collect on Indian sales.

Indian nations have maintained their treaties don't allow the state to enforce its civil laws on their tribal lands, although the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1994 that New York had the right to collect the taxes.

"The issue is really between the convenience stores and the governor," said Mark Emery, spokesman for the Oneida Indian Nation.

Calls to members of the Onondaga Nation were not returned Thursday.

The convenience store association's commercial will run for three weeks on Time Warner Cable's News 10 Now. It's also airing in Buffalo and Albany. The association paid about $27,000 for the
ads, Calvin said.

"I think it will be effective in achieving our primary goal: To express our frustration," Calvin said. "Whether it's successful in achieving our other primary goal compelling Gov. Spitzer to begin enforcing the law remains to be seen. It depends on residents and taxpayers and whether they go to that Web site.

"We hope that they will," Calvin continued. "It's not just convenience stores that have a stake in this. It's every single taxpayer, whether you smoke or not. If your neighbor is traveling to Indian reservations to buy cigarettes, it means tax revenue that would have been collected on that sale needs to come from somewhere else. It impacts all of us."

Delen Goldberg can be reached at dgoldberg@syracuse.com or 470-2274.

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Tell all the store owners to not pay their sales taxes like the tribes refuse to do. That should get Spitzers attention. If the state goes after the store owners for the unpaid sales taxes then sue the state for discrimination.
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#600475 --- 07/06/07 04:19 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer [Re: grinch]
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Originally Posted By: grinch


The Indian nation wants to negotiate with the state for compensation — perhaps a yearly payment — for use of the land a few miles from the Lake Erie shore. The nation is also looking at other roads and rights of way for which they may have been shortchanged.


Does the state of NY charge the tribe when their members go off the rez and use NY land?




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#600477 --- 07/06/07 04:20 PM Re: Cayuga settlement offer [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: sworldt
No even though i am for economic development and cooperative agreements. This is one that would put the community in the middle of a legal battle between the two tribes.


What legal battle would that be?


sworldt - hard question for you to answer?



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#600575 --- 07/07/07 07:42 AM Cayuga settlement vote [Re: bluezone]
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Casino deal deadline set

Seneca County lawmaker David Dresser, chairman of his county's Native American Affairs committee, is pushing both counties to vote simultaneously July 24.

"All the legislators should step up to the plate and vote on it," said Dresser, who favors the proposed deal.

© 2007 Syracuse Online, LLC.
Saturday, July 07, 2007
By Scott Rapp
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