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#710676 --- 12/16/07 03:54 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Highlander]
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oops.. I forgot to add the link.
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#711027 --- 12/16/07 09:55 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Gio]
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Major bummer.

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#712298 --- 12/18/07 02:35 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Jelloshot]
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;\) Damn that Sports Illustrated cover curse !!

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#713037 --- 12/19/07 01:27 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Highlander]
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#713050 --- 12/19/07 01:43 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Highlander]
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maybe the jinx will carry over to that 7 footer too!

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#713441 --- 12/19/07 08:13 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Jelloshot]
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Its okay Devo and Rautins will come back with a vengeance next year!!!!
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#723336 --- 01/03/08 10:08 AM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Gio]
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Well they tried to lose last night but managed to pull it out! Nice to see a big man in the paint dominating again... let alone our 6'11" outside shooter! I'm not looking forward to some of the "older" teams .. like G-Town.

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#723701 --- 01/03/08 06:48 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Jelloshot]
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yes nice to see them protect a lead for a change, by not taking 3 pointers that they don't need, those are killers especially when they don't follow the misses an get a rebound...one of the best games i've seen from the 'cuse in a long time, hopefully they can build on this
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#723713 --- 01/03/08 06:58 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: lennon lives]
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I liked how they kept their cool when Greene sat.
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#728610 --- 01/09/08 09:20 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Gio]
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Tough game tonight. I kept waiting for them to hit the switch and come back but I guess it was too late and they just didnt have enough steam left..
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#735022 --- 01/19/08 02:00 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Gio]
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Another tough one today, excellent article in yesterdays Auburn paper about the lack of fight in some of these young kids. The analogy used was Melo, if ya elbowed him or knocked him around he'd get mad and score 25 points and just take over the game, and he made everyone around him play better. This team lacks that. Devo had that fight in him and now no one has taken the lead. I watched for it in todays game, instead of getting angry they would just put their heads down and continue playing. I wish I could find that article it was really good.

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#735026 --- 01/19/08 02:03 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Jelloshot]
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Found it:

Edge not there for Orange this yearBy Ryan Day

Friday, January 18, 2008 9:33 AM EST

Remember Carmelo Anthony?
The smile. The headband. The game.

Nobody has forgotten.

'Melo had the entire package as a player - he could score inside and outside, he was a tenacious rebounder and he made all his teammates better by just being on the court.

But 'Melo had something else. Behind the swagger, there was something darker.

There was an edge.

Every time he laced up the sneakers, Carmelo Anthony was the best player on the court. He could have easily gotten by on natural ability alone. But that wasn't enough for him.

Opponents learned quickly - don't tick off Carmelo.

If you talked smack in his general direction, 'Melo would torch you. If you threw an elbow, he'd throw one back, then proceed to score the game's next 10 points.

Basically he was the New England Patriots before they were. A unmotivated Anthony was better than you. A fired up Anthony was better than you and was he going to make it his mission to embarrass you.

In the 2003 East Regional final, Oklahoma's Kevin Bookout body-checked Anthony out of bounds while the referees weren't looking.

What happened next was as predictable as a Bill Belichick press conference.

Carmelo dunked on Bookout's head, then scored a game-high 20 points to lead the Orangemen to a lopsided 63-47 victory and a berth in the Final Four.

He had a fire.

This year's team - I'm not sure they do.

That's what's missing.

Donte Greene and Jonny Flynn are two of the most talented freshmen in the country.

Plus, they're easy to like.

There's a reason why the entire student section is throwing up “Dynasty” signs. These guys are entertainers.

They fill the highlight real, they pump up the crowd and they actually look like they're having a good time.

They're care-free.

But are they mean?

When Syracuse was getting trounced by Cincinnati and West Virginia, I never saw any anger. I saw disappointment. I saw a loss of confidence. But I never saw that mean streak that good teams possess.

This is where they miss Eric Devendorf.

Forget his 17 points per game, Devo brought an “I'm better than you” demeanor to every game. While his antics sometimes wore thin on SU fans, it's become quite clear -that edge is now missing.

On Sunday, West Virginia's Joe Alexander dunked on Arinze Onuaku then stared down the 258-pound behemoth.

Let's get one thing straight, A.O. could snap Alexander in half if he wanted to.

But on this occasion, he just turned the other way. No yapping. No payback.

He did nothing.

What do you think Devo would have done?

Arinze isn't a trash-talker. Off the court, he's as soft-spoken as can be. On the court, he lets his work do the talking.

And that's fine. Every team needs a pacifist, a cool head.

But every team also needs a fiery personality - someone who takes things personally.

In this case, Alexander completed the three-point play and the Mountaineers went on to an 81-61 victory.

Nobody responded.

Devendorf took things personal. So did 'Melo. Even G-Mac had a vengeful personality on the court.

Right now, I don't see anyone on the Syracuse men's basketball team who has that edge.

The Orange has boatloads of young talent. But when they get pushed around, when they get embarrassed on national television, how will they respond?

This team is easy to relate to. We see the smiles and laughter. We see the goofing around on the bench and during player introductions - all stuff we saw during 'Melo's tenure.

This team is just missing one key ingredient. They need that fire.

Either they development an edge now, or they'll get tired of smiling through blowout losses.

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#735049 --- 01/19/08 03:22 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Jelloshot]
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I read that last night and couldnt agree more. I saw a glimmer once when Flynn got hit on a drive but it didnt seem to grow. Maybe soon it will?
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#735442 --- 01/20/08 02:40 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Gio]
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http://www.syracuse.com/articles/sports/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1200823059162390.xml&coll=1

How can a team win when a 'major' component
"didn't come to the game to play hard" ??

Geeez, kid........

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#735683 --- 01/20/08 07:03 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Highlander]
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wow!

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#735968 --- 01/21/08 09:58 AM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Jelloshot]
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Tonight adds another chapter to a great saga. I have relatives who graduated from Chapel Hill and have a brother who goes to Alabama-Auburn football games. But they refer to this rivalry as something different. Watch out for Hoya Paranoia---it's contagious!

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#735979 --- 01/21/08 10:20 AM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: ]
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It will be a big test for our young team..I wonder, given the attitude from the above article(s), if they realize what a G-Town vs. SU game really is all about?? I predict we'll get spanked.. but ya never know. I hope I'm wrong.

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#736036 --- 01/21/08 12:51 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Jelloshot]
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NCAA rules require Boeheim to conduct a fire drill with his players once a month. Last night they did just that. Until Roy Hibbert stopped them in the hallway. Then it was considered a BLOCKED fire drill. Oh yeah!

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#736194 --- 01/21/08 09:04 PM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: ]
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well........ what a game. Heck of a game. One of the more physical games I've seen in a while and I only saw the second half. JF had two men open on the wings but just had to take it himself..gotta love those freshman, but OH SO close.

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#736286 --- 01/22/08 05:31 AM Re: SU Basketball 07-08 and beyond?? [Re: Jelloshot]
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Typical G-Town - Cuse game. Very exciting and very frustrating all at the same time.
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