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#574450 --- 05/09/07 02:34 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Sausage]
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Is there a jihadist compound in your area? You might be suprised.

The Islamist group Jamaat ul-Fuqra operates highly secretive compounds and weapons training facilities throughout the United States.


Digest of Jamaat ul-Fuqra Coverage, including information on JuF compounds in:

Colorado
Baladullah, CA
York County, SC
York, SC
Fuqra Headquarters: Hancock, NY
Secret Fuqra Compound in VA
MOA/Fuqra Community: Commerce, GA
Jamaat ul-Fuqra/MOA Compound: Dover, TN
Aliville, Georgia
Canada

http://politicsofcp.blogspot.com/2005/10/digest-of-jamaat-ul-fuqra-coverage.html

More coverage:
http://politicsofcp.blogspot.com/


Jamaat ul Fuqra in Virginia
(Red House, Virginia in Charlotte County, near Farmville and Lynchburg):

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2005/10/jamaat-ul-fuqra-in-virginia-part-1.html

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2005/11/jamaat-ul-fuqra-in-virginia-part-2.html

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2005/12/jamaat-ul-fuqra-in-virginia-part-3.html



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#574456 --- 05/09/07 02:35 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: SkySoldier]
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JIHAD IN U.S. STREETS

Zealot Muslims now plan to bathe America’s streets with gunfire just as is going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Darfur and so forth.

ArriveNet Editorials
May 04, 2007
http://editorials.arrivenet.com/society/article.php/11383.html

J. Grant Swank, Jr. (ArriveNet Editorials - May 04, 2007) -- "These killers are known as "paintball jihadists" in that they practice in paintball game style what they have planned for America’s streets. They are already training others in "urban combat" using paintball guns. They will engage in paramilitary-style training right under our noses, and lie about it to our faces. They are protected, in some cases, by the religious Imams, some who even encourage or schedule such outings."

Zealot Muslims now plan to bathe America’s streets with gunfire just as is going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Darfur and so forth.

Once these Allah devotees get hold, they don’t stop. Street fighting never ends. Further, these fighters are more than willing to sacrifice their own bodies and those of their families and neighbors in order to see through Islam World Rule.

Douglas J. Hagmann, Director, Northeast Intelligence Network, reports that American officials already know of the process. However, both government and media are muffling detail.

Jihad will come to the United States due to "Muslim men inside the U.S., (the latter) adhering to the Islamist ideology of jihad, preparing for war on the streets of America.

"The ‘insider’ reports are very troubling and are purposely being downplayed by official sources and go largely unreported in the media.

"One case, however, can serve as an example of what is taking place all across the U.S. involving the procurement and disbursement of weapons to Muslim ‘jihadists.’ On Tuesday, May 2, 2007, a federal indictment was unsealed in the U.S. federal court in St. Louis naming eight Islamic men as defendants in a case involving the buying, selling or hiding of automatic weapons, an anti-personnel mine and other explosives.

"The case originated with the arrest of Mousa M. ABUELAWI, 22, of Creve Coeur, MO on December 29, 2006. He was charged with three counts of illegal possession or distribution of a machine gun and conspiracy to violate machine gun statutes. A superseding indictment unsealed yesterday, charges ABUELAWI and seven others with machine gun charges and charges of conspiracy, lying to the FBI and other firearms violations.

"The other seven defendants identified in the indictment are identified as: Thaer Abde SUMAD, 23, of Florissant, MO, Abdikarin WARSAME, 28, Charley M. HUNT Jr., 45, Darnell T. THORNTON, 25, and Hussein Ali NURE, 29, all from Jennings, MO, Mohamed JUDEH, 20, of Maryland Heights and Otha L. BAKER, 20, of St. Louis. If found guilty of the charges, the men face 5-10 years in prison."

Jihadists are stockpiling weaponry and explosives via secret cells. Mosque leaders are cooperating with them.

"In the case of ABUELAWI and the other seven defendants, the men met at gas stations located in north St. Louis between August 2006 and January 2007 to buy or transfer automatic weapons and explosives. In the original documents charging Abuelawi, Sumad is quoted in a meeting with ABUELAWI and a government informer as saying that ‘he wants to buy as many explosives as possible because, "we're going to war."'"

Visit http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/ Northeast Intelligence Network




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#574458 --- 05/09/07 02:36 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: SkySoldier]
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Preditor or prey? Choose.








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#574460 --- 05/09/07 02:37 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: SkySoldier]
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But, Sky....it is all the FBI's fault....RS said so... \:\( \:\/

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#574466 --- 05/09/07 02:42 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: SkySoldier]
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Originally Posted By: SkySoldier
JIHAD IN U.S. STREETS

Zealot Muslims now plan to bathe America’s streets with gunfire just as is going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Darfur and so forth.

ArriveNet Editorials
May 04, 2007
http://editorials.arrivenet.com/society/article.php/11383.html

J. Grant Swank, Jr. (ArriveNet Editorials - May 04, 2007) -- "These killers are known as "paintball jihadists" in that they practice in paintball game style what they have planned for America’s streets. They are already training others in "urban combat" using paintball guns. They will engage in paramilitary-style training right under our noses, and lie about it to our faces. They are protected, in some cases, by the religious Imams, some who even encourage or schedule such outings."

Zealot Muslims now plan to bathe America’s streets with gunfire just as is going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Darfur and so forth.

Once these Allah devotees get hold, they don’t stop. Street fighting never ends. Further, these fighters are more than willing to sacrifice their own bodies and those of their families and neighbors in order to see through Islam World Rule.

Douglas J. Hagmann, Director, Northeast Intelligence Network, reports that American officials already know of the process. However, both government and media are muffling detail.

Jihad will come to the United States due to "Muslim men inside the U.S., (the latter) adhering to the Islamist ideology of jihad, preparing for war on the streets of America.

"The ‘insider’ reports are very troubling and are purposely being downplayed by official sources and go largely unreported in the media.

"One case, however, can serve as an example of what is taking place all across the U.S. involving the procurement and disbursement of weapons to Muslim ‘jihadists.’ On Tuesday, May 2, 2007, a federal indictment was unsealed in the U.S. federal court in St. Louis naming eight Islamic men as defendants in a case involving the buying, selling or hiding of automatic weapons, an anti-personnel mine and other explosives.

"The case originated with the arrest of Mousa M. ABUELAWI, 22, of Creve Coeur, MO on December 29, 2006. He was charged with three counts of illegal possession or distribution of a machine gun and conspiracy to violate machine gun statutes. A superseding indictment unsealed yesterday, charges ABUELAWI and seven others with machine gun charges and charges of conspiracy, lying to the FBI and other firearms violations.

"The other seven defendants identified in the indictment are identified as: Thaer Abde SUMAD, 23, of Florissant, MO, Abdikarin WARSAME, 28, Charley M. HUNT Jr., 45, Darnell T. THORNTON, 25, and Hussein Ali NURE, 29, all from Jennings, MO, Mohamed JUDEH, 20, of Maryland Heights and Otha L. BAKER, 20, of St. Louis. If found guilty of the charges, the men face 5-10 years in prison."

Jihadists are stockpiling weaponry and explosives via secret cells. Mosque leaders are cooperating with them.

"In the case of ABUELAWI and the other seven defendants, the men met at gas stations located in north St. Louis between August 2006 and January 2007 to buy or transfer automatic weapons and explosives. In the original documents charging Abuelawi, Sumad is quoted in a meeting with ABUELAWI and a government informer as saying that ‘he wants to buy as many explosives as possible because, "we're going to war."'"

Visit http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/ Northeast Intelligence Network




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Ignoring for the moment that this is an editorial, doesn't the above pretty much blow to pieces tha argument that we're fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here?
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#574471 --- 05/09/07 02:45 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Reinhart Faust]
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I think we have always been vigilant of terrorists on the homefront since 9/11. Many have said it keeps them over there, but we always knew there was no guarnatee.

But, does this not also blow a hole in the opposition theory of no terrorists threat here in America and that Bush was just using that threat as a "scare tactic"?

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#574515 --- 05/09/07 03:09 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Strawberry Jam]
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I don't know who said that. I personally have never believed that terrorism was not an issue. I do however think that it isn't the only issue. I think our fear of terrorism, fostered and encouraged by the administration and the media, has caused us to focus on terrorism to the point where we've allowed other, equally pressing problems to fester. I also think that it has caused us to vote for leaders who, in spite of their tough talk on terrorism, are not fighting the terrorist threat properly. As Sky says, a thin knife cuts deep. We're fighting terrorism harder when we need to be fighting it smarter.
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#574517 --- 05/09/07 03:10 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Reinhart Faust]
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Originally Posted By: Reinhart Faust
Originally Posted By: SkySoldier
JIHAD IN U.S. STREETS

Zealot Muslims now plan to bathe America’s streets with gunfire just as is going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Darfur and so forth.

ArriveNet Editorials
May 04, 2007
http://editorials.arrivenet.com/society/article.php/11383.html

J. Grant Swank, Jr. (ArriveNet Editorials - May 04, 2007) -- "These killers are known as "paintball jihadists" in that they practice in paintball game style what they have planned for America’s streets. They are already training others in "urban combat" using paintball guns. They will engage in paramilitary-style training right under our noses, and lie about it to our faces. They are protected, in some cases, by the religious Imams, some who even encourage or schedule such outings."

Zealot Muslims now plan to bathe America’s streets with gunfire just as is going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Darfur and so forth.

Once these Allah devotees get hold, they don’t stop. Street fighting never ends. Further, these fighters are more than willing to sacrifice their own bodies and those of their families and neighbors in order to see through Islam World Rule.

Douglas J. Hagmann, Director, Northeast Intelligence Network, reports that American officials already know of the process. However, both government and media are muffling detail.

Jihad will come to the United States due to "Muslim men inside the U.S., (the latter) adhering to the Islamist ideology of jihad, preparing for war on the streets of America.

"The ‘insider’ reports are very troubling and are purposely being downplayed by official sources and go largely unreported in the media.

"One case, however, can serve as an example of what is taking place all across the U.S. involving the procurement and disbursement of weapons to Muslim ‘jihadists.’ On Tuesday, May 2, 2007, a federal indictment was unsealed in the U.S. federal court in St. Louis naming eight Islamic men as defendants in a case involving the buying, selling or hiding of automatic weapons, an anti-personnel mine and other explosives.

"The case originated with the arrest of Mousa M. ABUELAWI, 22, of Creve Coeur, MO on December 29, 2006. He was charged with three counts of illegal possession or distribution of a machine gun and conspiracy to violate machine gun statutes. A superseding indictment unsealed yesterday, charges ABUELAWI and seven others with machine gun charges and charges of conspiracy, lying to the FBI and other firearms violations.

"The other seven defendants identified in the indictment are identified as: Thaer Abde SUMAD, 23, of Florissant, MO, Abdikarin WARSAME, 28, Charley M. HUNT Jr., 45, Darnell T. THORNTON, 25, and Hussein Ali NURE, 29, all from Jennings, MO, Mohamed JUDEH, 20, of Maryland Heights and Otha L. BAKER, 20, of St. Louis. If found guilty of the charges, the men face 5-10 years in prison."

Jihadists are stockpiling weaponry and explosives via secret cells. Mosque leaders are cooperating with them.

"In the case of ABUELAWI and the other seven defendants, the men met at gas stations located in north St. Louis between August 2006 and January 2007 to buy or transfer automatic weapons and explosives. In the original documents charging Abuelawi, Sumad is quoted in a meeting with ABUELAWI and a government informer as saying that ‘he wants to buy as many explosives as possible because, "we're going to war."'"

Visit http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/ Northeast Intelligence Network




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Ignoring for the moment that this is an editorial, doesn't the above pretty much blow to pieces tha argument that we're fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here?


Um.... no. It just shows that we have failed.

Perhaps because we haven't tried hard enough - ?
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#574518 --- 05/09/07 03:11 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Reinhart Faust]
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Sorry RF, Retired Soldier is the one who inferred that the FBI was at fault for the plot.

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#574535 --- 05/09/07 03:31 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Strawberry Jam]
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I think what Bush has used as a "scare tactic" is the notion that if we stop occupying Iraq, suddenly the terrorists will be emboldened to come on over here and attack us. Such a theory is not only a scare tactic, but also makes no logical sense (especially if we assume the "terrorists" are attacking in Iraq in order to get America out of Iraq). I suspect that continuing to occupy Iraq, threatening the middle east in general, and funding the illegal activities of the Israeli government are what make for easy recruitment of terrorists, both here and abroad. Removing one huge motive - the outrageously unpopular occupation of Iraq - would logically reduce the ability of terrorist organizations to recruit, most especially in Iraq itself.

As far as the "militant Islamic" comments, all I'd say to that is that you never hear the KKK or such groups referred to as "militant christians." But they are. It's a matter of xenophobia, really - we assume that groups like the KKK are aberrations, not actually influenced by the violent selections of the bible, while clearly Muslims who commit violence are influenced in that way by their "inferior" religion. You also rarely hear right-wingers expressing discomfort with the religious tone Christian leaders - and even the president and military officials - have assigned to the "war on terror" and the attacks on the middle east. Is that "militant Christianity" in action? If people are willing to admit that it's so, I'd be far more willing to call terrorists "Islamic militants." I'd finally point out that "militant Christianity" is far more of a bastardization of the teachings of Christ - at least Islam provides for "holy war," while Christ instructs us to completely reject violence...but that's another topic.
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#574863 --- 05/10/07 12:26 AM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: LaughinWillow]
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Originally Posted By: LaughinWillow
As far as the "militant Islamic" comments, all I'd say to that is that you never hear the KKK or such groups referred to as "militant christians." But they are



Yes. It is only a mater of time before the KKK plans an attack on Fort Dix!!!

You can mark Ms. Willows words!!!


By the way, thank you for capitalizing "Islamic" but not "christians"
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#574882 --- 05/10/07 12:54 AM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Al Kida]
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"By the way, thank you for capitalizing "Islamic" but not "christians"

We didn't capitalize "Bomb", either, until we developed the much more dangerous atomic variety.
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#574914 --- 05/10/07 01:31 AM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: VM Smith]
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Originally Posted By: VM Smith
"By the way, thank you for capitalizing "Islamic" but not "christians"

We didn't capitalize "Bomb", either, until we developed the much more dangerous atomic variety.



I now see how your language works.

You can not capitalize "christian" until you develop the much more dangerous atomic variety.

Excuse please my lack of knowledge of your language.
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#574947 --- 05/10/07 03:03 AM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Al Kida]
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No, grasshopper; listen up; I'm only going to explain this one time. We can't capitalize religions until they become really violent. Stupid little militias in Idaho don't count. Okay, go study now; remember the English test on Monday.
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#575431 --- 05/10/07 10:55 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Reinhart Faust]
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Originally Posted By: Reinhart Faust
Ignoring for the moment that this is an editorial, doesn't the above pretty much blow to pieces tha argument that we're fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here?



It might if any one of them was from Iraq.....or Afghanistan....or even Iran.
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#575445 --- 05/10/07 11:39 PM Re: Six Accused of Plotting to Kill Soldiers [Re: Sausage]
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Retired BS'er hasn't responded to this as I understand he's at a Social Workers Party caucus.

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