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#559951 - 04/13/07 12:55 PM
Re: Islam Awareness Week kicks off at Cornell
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past tense
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To be fair, "people like us" also call ALL religions and their stories myths - INCLUDING Islam.
Also, people who are atheist or agnostic tend to not see "themselves as their own salvation" since the sort of POINT of being atheist and agnostic is that you don't believe in all that crap. So how can I believe I'm my own salvation if I don't, uh, believe in the concept of salvation? Answer - we don't - it's what you say to try and paint us as some sort of self-obsessed freaks.
PS - I love the "people like you declaring God dead in the 70s". Give Nietzsche and the 1800s some credit, huh?
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#559965 - 04/13/07 01:11 PM
Re: Islam Awareness Week kicks off at Cornell
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past tense
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That too. It's not exactly an underused phrase.
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#559978 - 04/13/07 01:20 PM
Re: Islam Awareness Week kicks off at Cornell
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past tense
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That's not the actual meaning of the statement as intended by it's original author, but you ARE captain literal.
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#560365 - 04/14/07 12:00 AM
Re: Islam Awareness Week kicks off at Cornell
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VM Smith
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You have free will.
Denying Christ is your decision. You're right; I have the free will to choose not to be superstitious. I normally don't go around saying so, unless someone prods me by saying that his belief is the only truth, and that all others (which would include having no belief) are false. What arrogance you have! For one that is supposed to be very intelligent, I would think your arrogance supercedes his arrogance. Yet I would think that is the designed lack of faith in the Creator from a person like you and others on this forum. those that believe in nothing but themselves as their own salvation. You people call the Christian faith, myth, and stories, people like you declared "God is dead" back in 1970. Yet the prophecy was written a long time ago, and you people will never see the truth coming to fruition based on your lack of vision.
More nonsense.
"I would think..."? On what condition?
"...designed lack of faith.."? LOL! Next you'll be saying that lack of religion is a religion!
Yes, I'd say that one would have to be having visions to see a magical prophecy come to fruition. Don't drink the kool-aid.
"...people like you declared "God is dead" back in 1970." You have me confused with someone else; I'm the one who declared that he probably never existed, in 1966. You call it your way, and I'll call it my way, and Pascal's Wager is not an option for me; it's the coward's solution.
Edited by VM Smith (04/14/07 12:28 AM)
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#560620 - 04/14/07 01:01 PM
Islamic scholar speaks at Cornell
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newsman38
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Islamic scholar speaks at Cornell: U.S.-Muslim culture flourishes
ITHACA — A uniquely gifted, highly-educated and wealthy American-Muslim culture lives in the children of doctors, engineers and other Islamic professionals who came to this country a generation ago, and it can further flourish, according to Islamic scholar Dr. Umar F. Abd-Allah.
“The American Muslim community is perhaps the most highly educated and wealthiest (Muslim population) in the world,” he said, noting that 59 percent of Muslim Americans have college degrees as compared to 27 percent overall.
He returned to Cornell University to share his expertise on Islam on Friday, speaking to classes and in the keynote lecture of Cornell's Islam Awareness Week.
Entering a Ph.D. program at Cornell in 1969 to study Shakespeare, he read “The Autobiography of Malcolm X,” and was inspired by Islam. In January 1970, this Nebraska-born, Georgia-raised American — who said he'd taken childhood studies of Christianity seriously before becoming, briefly, “a spiritual vagabond” — embraced Islam.
His draft resistance due to his objections to the American involvement in Vietnam curtailed more studies at Cornell (he eventually gained a pardon), although he stayed in Ithaca for two more years before changing his focus to Islam and Arabic at the University of Chicago, where he earned a Ph.D., doing a dissertation on Islamic law. He has taught in Saudi Arabia and Spain.
For the past seven years he headed the Nawawi Foundation, an Illinois-based non-profit he co-founded to share Islamic teachings with Muslims and other Americans.
“I absolutely love this work. I love this young generation of Muslims in America that just gives me life. They have tremendous potential,” Abd-Allah said, noting their parents came to the United States around 1965, when only highly educated workers were permitted. They, in turn, raised well-educated children.
It's important these young people create a culture that's authentically Muslim and authentically American, he said.
“What's important for me is we do it consciously so it can be the best it can be and so it is positive,” he said.
He likened Islamic culture to a “crystal clear river” in which the colorless water is Islam, showing the color of the bedrock below.
The American Constitution, especially the First Amendment and Islamic law fit together, he said, and the teachings of Islam can go deep into the cultures
“If Islam is in China, it looks Chinese” Abd-Allah said. “In Africa, it looks African. So Islam in America should be American, the best of American.”
He mentioned Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) and said he admires some Muslim hip-hop he has heard for its great lyrics. There is a long history of Islamic music, including specific forms used for healing mental illnesses, and visual art, he said. Such new and traditional Islamic art forms need nurturing, he said.
Article published Apr 14, 2007
Islamic scholar speaks at Cornell: U.S.-Muslim culture flourishes
By Linda Stout
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#564862 - 04/20/07 03:39 PM
Re: Islam Awareness Week kicks off at Cornell
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greenelf
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Quote: Muslims,humanists or Christians..whomever.
I will not cease to state that Jesus Christ IS the Way,THE TRUTH,and THE LIFE of mankind.To do less would be to deny my Lord.
All others are imposters.Whether you like it or not.
You may detest the manner in which I go about it.That is no concern of mine.
You are embarrassing the hell out of Jesus. You wouldn't understand his message if it bit you on the a**.
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#566447 - 04/23/07 07:22 PM
Re: Islam Awareness Week kicks off at Cornell
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Don L
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sorry I am so late back to the fray...GE,what freaking Jesus are you referring to?Lot's of guys named Jesus.
Oh,nice mouthful you bit off in your last "statement".
This is about confrontation...are you up to it?
I am sure you believe you are.
BTW,there is no hell in Jesus CHRIST.Although He holds the key's.
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#566457 - 04/23/07 07:29 PM
Re: Islam Awareness Week kicks off at Cornell
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Don L
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Registered: 08/05/06
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VM,
A big Beatles fan are you?
Superfluous... you writing this all down?You will need to study.
Look,I am not hammering on you per say,just letting you know that you need to give this more serious consideration.Really.
Free will is yours.
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#570443 - 04/30/07 06:14 PM
Re: Islam Awareness Week kicks off at Cornell
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Gio
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That too. It's not exactly an underused phrase. God did die. Yet He rose again from the dead and ascended into Heaven. That is the Christian faith. You are one ignorant s.o.b. Many Christian denominations are predicated on a rejection of the belief that Christ --not "God"-- rose from the dead. And the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has a different theology altogether. All of that rising from the dead like a loaf of bread is Catholic, and we know all know what freaks Catholics are.
damn Catholics!
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