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#394895 --- 01/28/07 08:13 PM Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"
alummule Offline
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I agree....I just went to a smaller, more fuel efficient vehicle, but could not afford the hybrid...I do miss the roominess of the mini van and SUV though
But, better to miss that, than half the world...



Americangirl I am glad to hear other people are thinking about this issue. Now i am ashamed because i drive a mini van but it has been in my garage for @ least 3 weeks still using bicycle .I only use auto when i transport my grand children .
If people were aware of the impact of things they do i think we could solve global warming and our dependence on foreign oil.
For instance this tidbit from
Canandaigua Daily Messenger "Bristol Mt.Ski resort opened.
"Operating this resort consumes as much power per day as the entire Towns of Fairport and Naples combined "

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#394896 --- 01/31/07 03:27 PM Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"
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I hear the senate is having a meeting on it and the UN is announcing something soon on some findings...they are finally taking it seriously!
That's great about the bike. I must say I am not that committed yet, mostly because back problems prevent me from other modes of transport, but I do try and help out the Earth when I can!


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#394897 --- 01/31/07 04:48 PM Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"
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AM.girl
I just read an interesting article on this issue in FLT opinion page
1-26-07 by Mary K. Schoonover . I am a bit of a newbe to computers i tried to search for it on FLT site can't seem to bring it up . I just sent Mary an Email . If i can retrieve this will forward to you if you want .
About the Bicycle went out today to library in Clifton Spg.
Some one started a conversation it seems that because i always ride she thought i was a revoked.

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#394898 --- 01/31/07 05:43 PM Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"
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LOL!
Send it to me if you find it!! I'm not good with the computers either!!
I can't believe you ride in the snow!!!!! BRRRR!
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#394899 --- 02/01/07 11:37 AM Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"
alummule Offline
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LOL!
Send it to me if you find it!! I'm not good with the computers either!!
I can't believe you ride in the snow!!!!! BRRRR!



AMgirl Mary sent here it is AM
Hello, Jim -

There's been a glitch on the server, so I can't give you a link, but I
have copied the column into this reply.

Thank you for writing,

Mary

Maybe Carter was right
Eco-Logical
By Mary K. Schoonover

A Carter-era buzz word — sacrifice — is being dusted off by those
who
advocate a drastic overhaul of U.S. energy policy.

Steeped in religious history, sacrifice traces its meaning to the Latin
“sacer” or holy. To sacrifice (aside from offing animals to gain
divine
favor) is to test one’s convictions: Give up something valued for the
sake
of something deemed more worthy.

What a person is willing to sacrifice speaks volumes about what she
values: A parent’s life for that of her child. A musician’s soul
for
unparalleled talent. A five-scoop sundae drenched in hot fudge for a
size
4 dress. A few million Btus for the ability to lounge around the house
comfortably in shorts in January — or to avoid breaking a sweat in
July.

In an April 1977 energy policy speech, President Jimmy Carter used
“sacrifice” 10 times, calling on Americans’ courage and
patriotism to do
what was necessary to re-address our energy use and tailor it to
available
supply. He acknowledged that many would likely balk and lobby for
exemption.

However, calling his proposed course correction the “moral equivalent
of
war,” he challenged Americans to make lifestyle changes —
everything from
wearing sweaters when it’s cold to driving more fuel-efficient
vehicles —
to help the country maintain its powerful world leadership. Carter said
that doing so was “essential to protect our jobs, our environment,
our
standard of living, and our future” and that it would herald an age
of
peace, independence and freedom.

But, 30 years later, little about our lifestyle has changed. Sacrifice
never became the rallying cry Carter intended. We’ve been too busy
pursuing happiness (i.e. consuming).

Yet, the United States is at war, we’re highly dependent on other
nations
for energy; and we’re hardly free — of strategic obligations that
bind us
to governments we don’t necessarily respect; of vulnerabilities that
force
us to spend millions to protect oil shipping lanes and pipelines; or of
global shifts that threaten U.S. jobs and the country’s economic and
diplomatic standing.

We’re not exactly on the brink of doomsday, but some of the perils
Carter
hoped to forestall have indeed manifested, giving credence to his
mothballed proposals. Foremost, tailoring energy use to supply is
imperative.

Americans consume more than their fair share — with only 5 percent of
the
world’s population, we consume some 23 percent of its energy.
That’s more
than the other five most-populous nations added together.

Energy use goes beyond utilities and transportation. It takes half a
quart
of oil to produce what each American dollar buys to maintain the
luxurious
lifestyle to which we’ve grown accustomed.

Food. Durable goods. Clothing. Everything we buy carries an undisclosed
energy cost.

It takes more than 4,600 calories of fossil fuel energy to grow, chill,
wash, package and ship to the East Coast a one-pound box of prewashed
greens grown organically in California. (Figure about 4 percent higher
for
a conventionally grown pound of salad.) So, for 80 calories of food
energy
captured from the sun, our society is willing to swap 57 times more
calories of finite fuel.

That’s far from a holy trade-off.

Yet most of us are clueless as to how much energy it takes to provide
daily goods and services. Before Americans can answer the call to
sacrifice, consumers need to be educated.

We can hardly be expected to deny our desires if we don’t realize
there’s
a greater good at stake.

On the Net:
www.iiec.org
www.earth911.org
www.worldpopulationbalance.org
www.enviro-friendly.com/us-energy-
consumption.shtml

Schoonover is chief copy editor at the Times. Her “Eco-Logical”
column
runs every other Friday. E-mail her at mschoonover@ fltimes.com.

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#394900 --- 02/02/07 05:33 PM Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"
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That is very discouraging....I was just thinking today that even with the little bit I give up, it may help a bit...but there are sooo many out there who will NEVER change their lifestyle, they just don't care, or want to accept it. It will take the gov't making laws requiring change to bring these changes about. We are all too comfy with our luxuries...it's very depressing when I think of the overall picture. What good is my little bit? What good is it if I turn my heat down and wear sweaters, turn off MY lights, trade in MY SUV...etc etc...There are a thousand others who won't do it...sigh....

Thanks for the article!! The UN meeting was encouraging though...
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#394901 --- 02/03/07 10:23 AM Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"
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AM.GIRL
Here is a good site on electric power and how to conserve and save money too.
http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/
Here is one on ethanol . I think the jury is still out on ethanol while we wait some are going to fill their pockets and drive up the price of food in the process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_the_United_States

AM


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#394902 --- 02/04/07 10:05 AM Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"
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Cool, thanks! I really like the Mr. Electric one, lots of good tips!
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#394903 --- 02/06/07 12:36 PM Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"
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AMGIRL
Small ways to save or use resources.
Food Scraps - I see as an asset for garden.- Keep a recycled container on kitchen counter {my currant is ice bucket gleaned from garage sale free bin} empty outside as needed into old bucket or bury near garden . If no garden give away to a good home.

Put sign near toilet-----to save water
IF BROWN SEND DOWN IF YELLOW LET IT MELLOW
{ Before y'all readers start moanin .I realize not every one wants to do this but i am serious.}


AM
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