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#374601 --- 05/16/06 06:58 AM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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#374602 --- 05/16/06 10:57 AM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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"The statement you just made Dick may be the key to whether or not the Tribes are allowed to secure trust lands in NYS. If any trust lands are granted it should be limited in acreage." You missed your chance to put a limit on acreage, thank the UCE for that one. LOL
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#374603 --- 05/16/06 01:53 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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Thank you for posting that Okla.

Your forcasts have failed miserably.

This recent forcast of dire consequences will as well.

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#374604 --- 05/16/06 05:14 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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What would happen if NY legislature passed a law allowing casinos before the tribe was able to put land into trust???



LOL



Donald Trump would have one built tomorrow and so would Wilmorite.
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#374605 --- 05/16/06 05:16 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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Glad you are still LOL because just maybe the joke will be on you!
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#374606 --- 05/17/06 10:22 AM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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There will be land placed in trust in Seneca and Cayuga Co. Thats the only thing I have been sure about all a long. Sure I have messed with your heads about this and that just for the fun of it. LOL the joke is over and if you didn't get it thats to bad for you. The land deal was done illegaly and thats all we ever wanted to prove.
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#374607 --- 05/17/06 10:26 AM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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There will be land placed in trust in Seneca and Cayuga Co. Thats the only thing I have been sure about all a long. Sure I have messed with your heads about this and that just for the fun of it. LOL the joke is over and if you didn't get it thats to bad for you. The land deal was done illegaly and thats all we ever wanted to prove.




Then why did you not do this from day one??????


blah blah blah blah

the sky is falling the sky is falling....
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#374608 --- 05/17/06 10:34 AM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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We had to play it all the way out. It's a done deal now. LOL you won you don't owe us anything but you didn't take away our right to buy back all 64000 acers. Yep you won. Hehe now I don't have the time to play any longer so I will say good by and its been fun.
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#374609 --- 05/17/06 10:40 AM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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Auditors question Osage casino finances



TULSA, Okla. The chairman of the Osage Nation's Tribal Gaming Board says auditors found a "mess" in the tribe's casino finances.

Harry Roy Red Eagle says the problem is poor accounting and board is working to improve those practices.

Auditors say they couldn't complete the audit because records were kept so poorly. The auditors say the casinos weren't paying their bills on time and I-R-S forms required for anyone who wins a thousand dollars or more are missing.

The casinos have paid six-and-a-half (m) million dollars since February to catch up on the bills.

Red Eagle says the auditor's report is a good thing because it points out problems that the board was unaware of. And he says he's hoping to have a new audit by next week.

The Osage Nation is based in Pawhuska and operates casinos in Hominy, Pawhuska, Sand Springs and Tulsa.
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#374610 --- 05/17/06 01:50 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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"The statement you just made Dick may be the key to whether or not the Tribes are allowed to secure trust lands in NYS. If any trust lands are granted it should be limited in acreage." You missed your chance to put a limit on acreage, thank the UCE for that one. LOL




UCE placed your limit on acreage in 1999 when our co-chair displayed the twenty foot square ZERO at the rally. You must have missed that one.

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#374611 --- 05/17/06 03:35 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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We had to play it all the way out. It's a done deal now. LOL you won you don't owe us anything but you didn't take away our right to buy back all 64000 acers. Yep you won. Hehe now I don't have the time to play any longer so I will say good by and its been fun.




No one I know is selling.
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#374612 --- 05/17/06 05:21 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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(Okla's previous post)




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#361005 - 05/03/06 10:02 AM


Make up all the laws you want, as long as they are state laws the Tribes don't have to follow them.

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#374613 --- 05/17/06 05:26 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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We had to play it all the way out. It's a done deal now. LOL you won you don't owe us anything but you didn't take away our right to buy back all 64000 acers. Yep you won. Hehe now I don't have the time to play any longer so I will say good by and its been fun.




No one I know is selling.




How much land do you need?

I could sell you some land.

Just remember that you can pay me 7 times the value of it. And in 200 years my relatives will want the land back with the improvements (casino and all) plus compensation because I did not have permission to sell it.


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#374614 --- 05/17/06 08:09 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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talk about hard feelings
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#374615 --- 05/17/06 08:29 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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There will be land placed in trust in Seneca and Cayuga Co. Thats the only thing I have been sure about all a long. .... The land deal was done illegaly and thats all we ever wanted to prove.




Then why did you not do this from day one??????




Okla - 1st as Dan pointed out, you didn't prove ANYTHING. ALL you had was ONE lower court judge, who had many of his previous rulings overturned, rule that you could be paid AGAIN for the land you SOLD eight times. Even that was thrown out.

Bluezone - they didn't do this from day one, which they COULD have tried, BECAUSE trust lands are much more easily granted to EXISTING adjacent tribal lands. IF they could have reached a "restricted area" settlement in their land claim - THEN they would have applied for trust status on the surrounding lands. The two are seperate. Courts have ruled that tribes are allowed to expand their land base "to suit their needs". NOW they have to file under NON-reservation applications. It puts a much heavier weight on local community input. Furthermore, the "courts" have started getting much more researched intelligent input. They can't rule on what is NOT presented.

Tribes can file for trust lands ANYWHERE indefinetly. The "I'm not in a land claim" doesn't mean squat. i.e.: Buffalo - Niagara Falls - Catskills ...

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#374616 --- 05/17/06 11:06 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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We had to play it all the way out. It's a done deal now. LOL you won you don't owe us anything but you didn't take away our right to buy back all 64000 acers. Yep you won. Hehe now I don't have the time to play any longer so I will say good by and its been fun.




No one I know is selling.


LOL sure maybe thats why I get all the offers to sale in my PM'S. I would bet you do know someone thats in line wanting to sale. LOL but you will not know it until we have filed to have it placed in trust.
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#374617 --- 10/18/06 08:40 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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(Okla's previous post)




Okla.ndn
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Re: JNT's to CLOSE TUES. Cheap indian ga
#361005 - 05/03/06 10:02 AM


Make up all the laws you want, as long as they are state laws the Tribes don't have to follow them.

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#374618 --- 10/19/06 01:04 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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You got that right as I did say we didn't have to follow them, but I didn't say we wouldn't follow them. Did I? LOL come on baby lets do the twist.
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#374619 --- 10/21/06 07:23 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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When was the last time you sent a SC team to the Olympics?
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#374620 --- 10/21/06 11:01 PM Re: Top court won't review Indian land c
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When was the last time you sent a SC team to the Olympics?


LOL What are you talking about?
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