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#304722 --- 02/02/06 02:32 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
dwarren Offline
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Our Tribal leaders don't have sovereign immunity from a member filing a law suit when they act out side of their duties. In the case I was talking about, a finding was made by our grievance committee and our BC didn't like it and wouldn't follow the finding. That opened the door to the fed. courts. Dan I have been a Tribal member all of my life and I have spent a lot of time learning what my rights are. Others might have just walked away not knowing what rights they have. You can only be pushed around if you let it take place.




You state "from a member" what about a non-member?

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#304723 --- 02/03/06 01:39 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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"You state "from a member" what about a non-member?" Dan your right as thats what we were talking about my rights as a Tribal member. Dan you can try changing this to something about a non-member but what was posted and replyed to wasn't. Dicks post is wrong. You feel free to do your own research about the rights of a non-member.
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#304724 --- 02/04/06 07:05 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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Cayuga-s file petition to Supreme Court

Even though appeals to the Supreme Court are rarely granted, tribal attorneys for the Cayuga Nation of New York and the Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma have filed a petition to the court. The Citizen reports attorneys claim the federal court that dismissed the land claim suits overstepped with its ruling. The petition, filed Friday, contends the Court of Appeals dismissal of the land claim case went way beyond the Supreme Court's decision in the city of Sherill vs the Oneida Indian Nation. The petition claims the Sherill case does not mean the tribes aren't eligible for monetary damages and, further, does not mean the tribes waited to long to file suit. The United States Soliciter General's office has joined the tribes in the request. The State, Seneca, and Cayuga County will have time to respond to the petition.
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#304725 --- 02/04/06 07:06 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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Okla - all this work just for a museum???


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#304726 --- 02/04/06 07:09 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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Did the court say that the land must be in trust for a museum????





Or is this all about a casino that spicer wants???


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#304727 --- 02/04/06 08:46 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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"You state "from a member" what about a non-member?" Dan your right as thats what we were talking about my rights as a Tribal member. Dan you can try changing this to something about a non-member but what was posted and replyed to wasn't. Dicks post is wrong. You feel free to do your own research about the rights of a non-member.




However, your commercial ventures are pulling non-members onto your land how are they protected?

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#304728 --- 02/04/06 10:10 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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Like I said Dan feel free to do your own research on non-members.
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#304729 --- 02/04/06 10:45 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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Like I said Dan feel free to do your own research on non-members.




Yet another race based preference on your tribe's part?

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#304730 --- 02/04/06 11:23 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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No Dan your the one that brings race in not me or my Tribe. Why is it when I prove you wrong you always turn to its a race issue. Dan you have a lot to offer for your side of this issue, but twisting everything I say to be a race issue must stop if we are to keep responding to each other. Its your call.
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#304731 --- 02/04/06 12:15 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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No Dan your the one that brings race in not me or my Tribe. Why is it when I prove you wrong you always turn to its a race issue. Dan you have a lot to offer for your side of this issue, but twisting everything I say to be a race issue must stop if we are to keep responding to each other. Its your call.




You are distinguishing rights between a person and your tribe based om whether or not that person is a member. In order to be a member you have to be a particular race. Therefore they are synonymous.

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#304732 --- 02/04/06 02:02 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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No Dan your the one that brings race in not me or my Tribe. Why is it when I prove you wrong you always turn to its a race issue. Dan you have a lot to offer for your side of this issue, but twisting everything I say to be a race issue must stop if we are to keep responding to each other. Its your call.




You are distinguishing rights between a person and your tribe based om whether or not that person is a member. In order to be a member you have to be a particular race. Therefore they are synonymous.


As you are, welcome to my list.
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#304733 --- 02/04/06 02:05 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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#304734 --- 02/05/06 07:20 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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*** You are ignoring this user ***




Typical non-substantive response, this appears to be a course of conduct for you when you know you can't back up your position.

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#304735 --- 02/05/06 12:33 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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#304736 --- 02/06/06 07:25 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay
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So far everything the Seneca Cayugas said they would do is done.





They said that they wanted to evicted the property owners. Has this happened?????
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#528363 --- 02/18/07 12:43 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay [Re: bluezone]
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So far everything the Seneca Cayugas said they would do is done.


They said that they wanted to evicted the property owners. Has this happened?????


And they still want a casino even though it is not on indian land.
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#531237 --- 02/22/07 11:28 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: bluezone
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So far everything the Seneca Cayugas said they would do is done.


They said that they wanted to evicted the property owners. Has this happened?????


And they still want a casino even though it is not on indian land.


Hello BZ:

If everything the S-C said they'd do is done - then they must have already opened their casino in Sullivan Co. Don't you remember that? You know, when they settled their land claim? Sometimes ya just have to humor old LOL. Think he smokes too many Sky Dancers.

Remember when ?

http://www.bizjournals.com/albany/stories/2004/11/15/daily34.html

Cayuga Indians settle New York land claim for casino rights
The Business Review (Albany) - November 18, 2004

New York state and the Cayuga Indian nation have settled a land claim that opens the way to establish a second casino in the Catskills.

Gov. George Pataki and Clint Halftown, a representative of the Cayuga nation, signed the agreement Thursday. The agreement requires the ratification of the U.S. Congress and the state Legislature.

The measure resolves land ownership disputes in the Finger Lakes region arising from Indian claims. Some stem from a 1789 treaty between the state and the Cayugas. The state will reimburse local governments for lost tax revenues resulting from Indian land ownership.

The Indian nation also agrees to negotiate a compact with the state for parity in the collection of sales taxes on cigarettes, gasoline, alcohol and other retail products.

The state will pay the Cayugas up to $150 million in 10 annual installments beginning in 2007.

The Indians will develop a gambling facility at Monticello Raceway in Sullivan County.

Earlier the state and the Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma announced a separate land claim settlement in return for authority to develop a separate casino in the town of Thompson in Sullivan County.


It didn't take Spitzer long to prove himself to be another King George.

But it ain't over 'tll the fat lady sings.

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#531482 --- 02/23/07 11:39 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Abramoff

Delay

Ney

Pombo

Boehlert




Ney off to jail.
When is Ray going?
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#531484 --- 02/23/07 11:44 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot

Hello BZ:

If everything the S-C said they'd do is done - then they must have already opened their casino in Sullivan Co. Don't you remember that? You know, when they settled their land claim? Sometimes ya just have to humor old LOL. Think he smokes too many Sky Dancers.



Okla is still begging wilmot for money for his "mirage" casino.
The 19 tables in Oklahoma that Okla has would not be considered highly profitable.
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#531907 --- 02/24/07 11:44 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga's Pay [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot

Hello BZ:

If everything the S-C said they'd do is done - then they must have already opened their casino in Sullivan Co. Don't you remember that? You know, when they settled their land claim? Sometimes ya just have to humor old LOL. Think he smokes too many Sky Dancers.



Okla is still begging wilmot for money for his "mirage" casino.
The 19 tables in Oklahoma that Okla has would not be considered highly profitable.
You are right we need one in New York to support the Tribe. That's why we are going to get our land put into trust. Can you say trust land? LOL
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