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#646355 --- 09/22/07 01:34 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land sold [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Did Okla's casino open in Auburn yet?


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#666580 --- 10/23/07 11:12 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land sold [Re: bluezone]
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Will the tribes claim they own the moon next?

LOL
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#667090 --- 10/23/07 04:59 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land sold [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Will the tribes claim they own the moon next?

LOL


I hear that it's "sacred". Actually I have a Saturday Night Live skit on tape of the tribes claiming the moon. South Park also did one on tribal casinos.

But, letters the Cayuga have been writing refer to Cayuga Lake as "our" lake. Sounds like the prelude to a chapter of Going to Pieces.

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#670672 --- 10/27/07 06:49 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land sold [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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I guess that they forgot that they have been paid many times over. And they lost the war.
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#725186 --- 01/05/08 12:26 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: Okla.ndn]
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Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
This question is for Cayuga county residents. All bad mouthing aside what would you like to see us do with our land? We are going to keep an open mind about what we could do so lets hear what you have to say.


Will you be selling it now?



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#725400 --- 01/05/08 06:03 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Will you be selling it now?

The Oneida tribe is selling land and recently put many of its tax delinquent properties up for sale.

Logical people know that the Sherrill case established land status when the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Judge Hurd's ruling and ruled the land was taxable.

Following that, Judge Hurd ruled that the property tax can't be collected because the tribe has sovereign immunity and the law can't be enforced.

But the tribe made the mistake of suing every village, town, city, school district, and county it had land in over their tax assessments. Once the tribe puts itself in court, those being sued have recourse and the courts have refused to drop the case despite the Oneida tribe's plea to back out of it's lawsuits in exchange for in lieu of taxes.

They know Hurd's ruling will be overturned and that will jeopardize their land claims, their trust applications, their jurisdiction, their tax status claims, and possibly the Turning Stone. Maybe the bought off county politicians there will even have to enforce the smoking laws.

My guess is they're just trying to buy time to get past the next Presidential election in hopes that a tribal supporter wins.

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#726873 --- 01/07/08 10:47 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
This question is for Cayuga county residents. All bad mouthing aside what would you like to see us do with our land? We are going to keep an open mind about what we could do so lets hear what you have to say.


Will you be selling it now?



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As far as I know the answer is no. And if it came up for a vote, my vote will be to keep it.
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#728252 --- 01/09/08 11:28 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: Okla.ndn]
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Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
As far as I know the answer is no. And if it came up for a vote, my vote will be to keep it.



And what plans do you have for the land?



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#728936 --- 01/10/08 10:56 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: bluezone]
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"And what plans do you have for the land?" I don't have any.
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#729612 --- 01/11/08 09:05 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: Okla.ndn]
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Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
"And what plans do you have for the land?" I don't have any.


Why is Spicer still fighting for a casino?


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#736450 --- 01/22/08 11:25 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
"And what plans do you have for the land?" I don't have any.


Why is Spicer still fighting for a casino?


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He is our Chief and he is doing it because the Tribe voted to do it.
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#737433 --- 01/24/08 08:32 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: Okla.ndn]
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Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn



He is our Chief and he is doing it because the Tribe voted to do it.


So it is not about the land but a casino?


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#738091 --- 01/25/08 10:33 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: bluezone]
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A casino would have been a bonus. Have you found a new home yet? LOL
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#738095 --- 01/25/08 10:38 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: Okla.ndn]
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Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
A casino would have been a bonus.


So the land is meaningless?

Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn


Have you found a new home yet? LOL


You have me confused with another poster. LOL


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#738108 --- 01/25/08 10:55 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: bluezone]
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Your wrong we want the land with or without a casino. When we started looking to get some land in New York a casino wasn't even on our minds.
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#739702 --- 01/27/08 05:57 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: Okla.ndn]
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Why bother with land if you are not going to use it?
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#815905 --- 05/27/08 11:33 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: Okla.ndn]
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Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
Your wrong we want the land with or without a casino. When we started looking to get some land in New York a casino wasn't even on our minds.


You must have changed your mind?

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#830421 --- 06/22/08 10:26 AM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: bluezone]
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State Looks at New Way to Collect Indian Taxes
Source: Finger Lakes News Radio

State officials are considering a new approach to collect taxes on sales of tax-free cigarettes sold by Indian retailers. Negotiators for the state Senate and Assembly tell the Buffalo News they are working on a deal that would make it illegal for tobacco manufacturers to sell cigarettes to any wholesaler who won't stop selling tax-free cigarettes to retailers on the Indian reservations in New York. Supporters say the state could reap more than $400 million in cigarette excise taxes currently lost to tax-free sales. Tax-avoidance schemes are expected to worsen since the state recently raised its excise tax to $2.75 per pack.
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#932304 --- 12/06/08 12:37 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
Your wrong we want the land with or without a casino. When we started looking to get some land in New York a casino wasn't even on our minds.


You must have changed your mind?




sell it to sworldt.



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#987918 --- 03/02/09 04:03 PM Re: Seneca-Cayuga land [Re: Okla.ndn]
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Originally Posted By: Okla.ndn
This question is for Cayuga county residents. All bad mouthing aside what would you like to see us do with our land? We are going to keep an open mind about what we could do so lets hear what you have to say.



Did Okla vanish?


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