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#1552818 --- 07/22/20 11:37 AM Obama pardons
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Barack Obama ended his presidency having granted clemency to more people convicted of federal crimes than any chief executive in 64 years.


1927
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#1552877 --- 07/23/20 11:40 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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1927 pardons

Is that about one pardon every 1.5 days, on average, during his presidency?

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#1552906 --- 07/23/20 06:51 PM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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More important than the quantity of pardons is the quality of the individuals pardoned. Compare Obama's to the crooked friends of his that Trump pardoned. I dare say that Obama knew none of the people he pardoned personally.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blo...eserving-second

The 231 individuals granted clemency today have all demonstrated that they are ready to make use — or have already made use — of a second chance. While each clemency recipient’s story is unique, the common thread of rehabilitation underlies all of them. For the pardon recipient, it is the story of an individual who has led a productive and law-abiding post-conviction life, including by contributing to the community in a meaningful way. For the commutation recipient, it is the story of an individual who has made the most of his or her time in prison, by participating in educational courses, vocational training, and drug treatment. These are the stories that demonstrate the successes that can be achieved — by both individuals and society — in a nation of second chances.

Today’s grants signify the President’s continued commitment to exercising his clemency authority through the remainder of his time in office. In 2016 alone, the President has granted clemency to more than 1,000 deserving individuals. The President continues to review clemency applications on an individualized basis to determine whether a particular applicant has demonstrated a readiness to make use of his or her second chance, and I expect that the President will issue more grants of both commutations and pardons before he leaves office. The mercy that the President has shown his 1,324 clemency recipients is remarkable, but we must remember that clemency is a tool of last resort and that only Congress can achieve the broader reforms needed to ensure over the long run that our criminal justice system operates more fairly and effectively in the service of public safety.
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#1552951 --- 07/24/20 05:58 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Ben444]
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As I said, I doubt if Obama even knew personally any of the people that he pardoned. Trump has pardoned many of his crooked cronies.

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BREAKING: Trump just abused his power AGAIN and commuted the sentence of his crony, Roger Stone. Trump is DESTROYING the Presidency and making a joke of our legal system!
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#1552952 --- 07/24/20 06:02 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-trump-pardons-20190523-story.html

The ability to grant pardons is among a president’s most unchecked powers.

Pardons have corrected injustices, and they’ve caused outrage. But historians consider some of President Trump’s pardons among the most controversial ever granted.

Experts say many of his pardons follow a pattern of rewarding people popular with his supporters or those who have spoken glowingly of the president. One recent pardon recipient wrote a book titled “Donald J. Trump: A President Like No Other.”

“So many of these pardons tie personally back to Trump, and that’s what stands out,” said Allan J. Lichtman, distinguished professor of history at American University.
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#1553049 --- 07/25/20 09:35 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Ben444]
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Lol
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#1553054 --- 07/25/20 09:49 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
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Barack Obama ended his presidency having granted clemency to more people convicted of federal crimes than any chief executive in 64 years.


1927


Your point?
When he left office, tell us that he was responsible for causing 46 million people lose their job or did he gain 30 million? In regard to death, how many were caused by having some type of healthcare versus not having non whatsoever...What makes you ignorant is the fact that one half of your brain doesn't function seeing that Trump's actions are non negotiable while brutally attacking a anything you don't agree with. Funny your disagreements involves honesty, ethics, truths, accuracy, forward progress, success, improvement etc. Now be honest here...1000 to 1, you're not married, do not have a great relation with people and generally live alone.HHHMMMM
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#1553059 --- 07/25/20 10:02 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: bluezone
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Barack Obama ended his presidency having granted clemency to more people convicted of federal crimes than any chief executive in 64 years.


1927


Your point?


Does 1927 seem high?
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#1553060 --- 07/25/20 10:03 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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ROTFLMAO

NO!!!
34 in the IQ scale seems high for you.
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#1553062 --- 07/25/20 10:06 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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When he left office, tell us that he was responsible for causing 46 million people lose their job or did he gain 30 million? In regard to death, how many were caused by having some type of healthcare versus not having non whatsoever...What makes you ignorant is the fact that one half of your brain doesn't function seeing that Trump's actions are non negotiable while brutally attacking a anything you don't agree with. Funny your disagreements involves honesty, ethics, truths, accuracy, forward progress, success, improvement etc. Now be honest here...1000 to 1, you're not married, do not have a great relation with people and generally live alone.HHHMMMM [/quote]

One eyed with half a brain, no ability to respond to question or recognize corruption on all sides.
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#1553063 --- 07/25/20 10:07 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac


NO!!!


Should he have done more?
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#1553064 --- 07/25/20 10:09 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
When he left office, tell us that he was responsible for causing 46 million people lose their job or did he gain 30 million? In regard to death, how many were caused by having some type of healthcare versus not having non whatsoever...What makes you ignorant is the fact that one half of your brain doesn't function seeing that Trump's actions are non negotiable while brutally attacking a anything you don't agree with. Funny your disagreements involves honesty, ethics, truths, accuracy, forward progress, success, improvement etc. Now be honest here...1000 to 1, you're not married, do not have a great relation with people and generally live alone.HHHMMMM


One eyed with half a brain, no ability to respond to question or recognize corruption on all sides.
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#1553065 --- 07/25/20 10:09 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
When he left office, tell us that he was responsible for causing


Russia hoax?
Fake Logan act?
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#1553066 --- 07/25/20 10:12 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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ROTFLMAO

Notice that I reply to myself son,at least I have the ability to consider the question and respond accordingly...you being brain dead and catatonic in mentality just droll and mumble.
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#1553067 --- 07/25/20 10:14 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Notice that I reply to myself son



Mental instability?

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#1553068 --- 07/25/20 10:15 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Formermac
When he left office, tell us that he was responsible for causing


Russia hoax?
Fake Logan act?


The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States.
Enacted by: the 5th United States Congress

Donald J. Trump
"Russia if you are listening, please find those 30,000 pieces of E-mail"

Yep you're just that clueless!!!
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#1553069 --- 07/25/20 10:17 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Formermac
When he left office, tell us that he was responsible for causing


Russia hoax?
Fake Logan act?


The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States.
Enacted by: the 5th United States Congress


You may want to read what you post before you post it....
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#1553071 --- 07/25/20 10:21 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Notice that I reply to myself son



Mental instability?



Please don't get upset when I quit responding son,


Won't be losing any sleep...
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#1553072 --- 07/25/20 10:21 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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Please make me clairvoyant
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#1553073 --- 07/25/20 10:22 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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THANK YOU LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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#1553074 --- 07/25/20 10:23 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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If you be a good boy you may get a birthday gift
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#1553080 --- 07/25/20 10:27 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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THANK YOU LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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#1553085 --- 07/25/20 10:33 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
If you be a good boy you may get a birthday gift


See how accurate you are son, just celebrated a Birthday last month, received a brand spanking new pickup truck.
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#1553087 --- 07/25/20 10:35 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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You could not buy your own?
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#1553089 --- 07/25/20 10:36 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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See how easy it is to be petty and adolescent, at the end of the day I feel rather dirty while you pat yourself on the back for a job well done.
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#1553092 --- 07/25/20 10:38 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
at the end of the day I feel rather dirty


Try a shower...
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#1553094 --- 07/25/20 10:41 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
You could not buy your own?


Of course I could but giving her a brand new home versus she buying me pickup truck is deemed a fairly even swap. Love has no place for counting good deed.
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#1553148 --- 07/26/20 09:04 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: bluezone
You could not buy your own?


Of course I could but giving her a brand new home versus she buying me pickup truck is deemed a fairly even swap. Love has no place for counting good deed.


Your last statement contradicts your first comment of the same post
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#1553183 --- 07/26/20 07:34 PM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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All this attention by you TDecker& Geedoy have me in a emotional high, three White guys that come here to devout their time and attention to me rather than the subject at hand, speak volume as to why Trump is doing so badly, more of your time should be devoted to getting him re elected by pointing out his great attributes and accomplishments but there lies the problem......he has no great attributes or accomplishments so what's a person to do? Spend their time peddling lies, untruths and changing the topics by means of behaving like racist idiots...Maybe the moment will eventually hit you that you walk the same fate as Trump, totally clueless and non relevant....Intelligence people moved on November of 2015 knowing all so well that a racist crook stole an election and his racist devotees were ecstatic. Now they have spent the last 4 years trying to deny the fact that they made the wrong decision while attempting to call my criticism of him a race card tactic...
If you're not racist and ignorant, please give up the Peanut gallery jig and act more like intelligent open minded adults because the current look "Ain't" flattering
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#1553357 --- 07/29/20 06:53 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac





Based on what?
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#1553359 --- 07/29/20 06:56 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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Anyone who supports Trump at this point in time has no class or dignity. It goes without saying but I said it anyhow. grin
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#1553375 --- 07/29/20 12:44 PM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Formermac]
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Eventually you will realize you are irrelevant, as are your crude rants.

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#1553376 --- 07/29/20 01:14 PM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Geedog]
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Originally Posted By: Geedog
Eventually you will realize you are irrelevant, as are your crude rants.
Really? Speaking of crude rants no one comes close to Trump.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/wildly-...ifestyle-dream/

‘Wildly, baldly, racist’: Trump ignites a firestorm with ‘insane’ tweet about the ‘Suburban Lifestyle Dream’
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#1553416 --- 07/30/20 05:11 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Anyone


What is Hillary up today?
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#1553419 --- 07/30/20 05:17 AM Re: Obama pardons [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Anyone


What is Hillary up today?
You keep outdoing yourself. That may the dumbest question you have posted on here yet.
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