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#1539156 --- 01/21/20 04:18 PM LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial
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#1539158 --- 01/21/20 04:27 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker


Great picture of a corrupted speaker protecting a corrupted president. There was a time that Trump defenders denied any wrong doing, after much incriminating evident, they're reduced to "WELL, he committed crime but it's not impeachable" ROTFLMAO, so glad that I'm not a Trump surrogate because there is no moment of rest because for every lie you defend, he's out committing 20 more... Get some sleep tonight because tomorrow I'll guaranteed you a busy day. wink

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#1539159 --- 01/21/20 04:30 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Formermac]
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#1539176 --- 01/21/20 05:33 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: ThomasDecker]
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hey, Dummy it started.
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#1539177 --- 01/21/20 05:37 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
hey, Dummy it started.



ROTFLMAO, maybe you'll see why I'm the bigger person than yourself, monetarily, educationally and ethically.......haven't reduced myself down to a grade school level.

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#1539242 --- 01/21/20 09:31 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Elizabeth Harrington
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Dems have no case, so they keep lying & taking @realDonaldTrump out of context

What he said:

2+ years
500 witnesses
$40 million
They looked at everything & found NOTHING

And guess what? He had Article II power to fire Mueller -- but he chose not to

One hoax to the next!

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#1539243 --- 01/21/20 09:32 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: cwjga]
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Interesting that Schiff is speaking from the pulpit about a fair trial.

He was the man that spearheaded conducting closed hearings in the basement of the House.

Hypocritical—just like this whole impeachment sham. https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1219643197556699139

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#1539245 --- 01/21/20 10:03 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: cwjga]
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Every time Democrats cite the foreign policy “consensus” on giving Ukraine aid as in the national security interest of the US, just remember:

1) that “consensus” means nothing. The President sets foreign policy

2) Obama wouldn’t send any lethal aid for fear of upsetting Putin

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#1539246 --- 01/21/20 10:56 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
He was the man that spearheaded conducting closed hearings in the basement of the House.

The closed hearings were for Democrat and Republican members of said committee! Amazing how many times this lie has been told!
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#1539250 --- 01/21/20 11:06 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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American Veteran @amvetsupport

I have witnessed hundreds of hours of trials. Not once has there been such an egregious obstruction of witnesses and records. We knew how this would end, but we cannot let it stand. Every single one of these complicit GOP Senators must be held accountable and voted out of office.
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#1539254 --- 01/21/20 11:17 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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andy lassner @andylassner

It’s not that any of the @SenateGOP
think he’s innocent, it’s that they just don’t care that he’s guilty.

It’s really sad.
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#1539255 --- 01/21/20 11:18 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Trump’s lawyers have a new trial strategy to bore us to death.
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#1539264 --- 01/22/20 01:22 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/constitutional-nonsense-trumps-impeachment-defense-130558778.html

'Constitutional Nonsense': Trump's Impeachment Defense Defies Legal Consensus
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#1539273 --- 01/22/20 08:09 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/here-is...x-doj-official/

Here is the self-inflicted blunder Mitch McConnell made that destroyed his entire case: ex-DOJ official
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#1539380 --- 01/23/20 11:53 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Glenn Kirschner (30 year prosecutor) .....In Davos, Trump said, “we have all the documents, the Dems have nothing.” Let’s be clear - this is the president BRAGGING about his Obstruction of Congress. It’s no different than a defendant charged w/murder saying, “I got rid of the body & the prosecutors will never find it.”
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#1539382 --- 01/23/20 12:38 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
He was the man that spearheaded conducting closed hearings in the basement of the House.

The closed hearings were for Democrat and Republican members of said committee! Amazing how many times this lie has been told!


So they were closed hearings held in the basement of the house. Thank you for confirming that.

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#1539385 --- 01/23/20 01:06 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
He was the man that spearheaded conducting closed hearings in the basement of the House.

The closed hearings were for Democrat and Republican members of said committee! Amazing how many times this lie has been told!


So they were closed hearings held in the basement of the house. Thank you for confirming that.
LOL. Yes they were only open to Democrats AND Republicans on these closed hearings for discussing classified data! Three committees involved with about 40 Republicans as I recall. what the hell is wrong with that? You always twist everything. It is not like Trump who gave secret info to the Russians in the Oval Office!
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#1539755 --- 01/26/20 10:40 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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alter dellinger @walterdellinger

The one witness the House should insist upon is: Donald Trump. Why is this off the table when Pres Clinton was deposed all day in the Jones suit and for hours by Ken Starr before the Grand Jury w/ video for the Senate.
Why allow the defense speculation about what Trump thought?
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#1539756 --- 01/26/20 10:43 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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How do the @GOP and @SenateGOP especially, justify continuing to back Trump when this stuff will just continue coming out... and Trump will continue to trample on the US Constitution??? #TrumpIsCorrupt At least investigate witness and evidence!!!
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#1539757 --- 01/26/20 11:24 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Fewer than half of Americans (43%), however, know that Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany through a democratic political process.
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#1539758 --- 01/26/20 11:30 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Alan Howe:

The difference between Trump and his supporters and 1930s Germany.......is 80 years. It is on us--right now, right here--to stop them from making us into a modern 1940s Germany. Only We the People can do that, and we can do that only with you. Your country needs you. Don't let it down! Stand up and fight back! Stand up now!
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#1539759 --- 01/26/20 11:40 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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And now we know who was plotting to "do things, including to me": Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Lev Parnas and Robert Hyde.

Is this the bottom? Please let this be the bottom.

Conspiring to hurt or kill a US Ambassador should be the bottom, GOP. RIGHT?!
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#1539761 --- 01/26/20 11:48 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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There will be protests like this in America this summer, right? Don't we value our democracy as much as they do in Hong Kong? The warmed the weather gets the more people will protest.

***************************************************************

Hong Kong's protests started in June against plans to allow extradition to mainland China.

Critics feared this could undermine judicial independence and endanger dissidents.

Until 1997, Hong Kong was ruled by Britain as a colony but then returned to China. Under the "one country, two systems" arrangement, it has some autonomy, and its people more rights.

The bill was withdrawn in September but demonstrations continue and now demand full democracy and an inquiry into police actions.

Clashes between police and activists have become increasingly violent, with police firing live bullets and protesters attacking officers and throwing petrol bombs.
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#1539763 --- 01/26/20 12:30 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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BREAKING: Lev Parans' attorney says that they are in possession of additional recordings of Donald Trump.

B-b-b-but Trump said he didn't know the guy!

Lordy, keep dropping those tapes!
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#1539766 --- 01/26/20 01:11 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Laura Walker @LauraWalkerKC

Dear Mr. President,

My only son, Ryan Larkin, a decorated US Navy SEAL took his life following traumatic brain injury (TBI). It is difficult to put into words the impact that your statement had on me and my family yesterday…it was a hard hit to the gut.
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#1539790 --- 01/26/20 06:17 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
BREAKING: Lev Parans' attorney says that they are in possession of additional recordings of Donald Trump.


Why did Schiff not have them

Thought he had OVERWHELIMING evidence but he still needs more witnesses...



Where is the whistleblower that schiff spoke with?

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#1539800 --- 01/26/20 07:55 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
BREAKING: Lev Parans' attorney says that they are in possession of additional recordings of Donald Trump.
Why did Schiff not have them

Thought he had OVERWHELIMING evidence but he still needs more witnesses...

Schiff doesn't have them until Lev Parnas attorney gives them to him. duh Schiff's overwhelming evidence grows daily and will continue to grow until Trump is gone.
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#1539801 --- 01/26/20 07:57 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Ben444
BREAKING: Lev Parans' attorney says that they are in possession of additional recordings of Donald Trump.
Where is the whistleblower that schiff spoke with?

You don't know that whistle blower identity is not disclosed? Especially when the president threatens to execute him/her! That is outrageous and should be in the next article of impeachment.
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#1539836 --- 01/27/20 12:09 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Wow. These sound like the basis for another article of impeachment!

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/john-boltons-manuscript-confirms-trumps-bribery-of-ukraine-report/

John Bolton’s manuscript confirms Trump’s bribery of Ukraine: report

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mike-po...corrupt-bolton/

Mike Pompeo called Trump’s Ukraine claims nonsense — and thought Rudy Giuliani was corrupt: Bolton
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#1539838 --- 01/27/20 12:14 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/john-bo...ukraine-report/

John Bolton went to Bill Barr with concerns about Giuliani’s ‘shadow foreign policy’ in Ukraine: report
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#1539839 --- 01/27/20 12:17 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/jo...ld-trump/24725/

John Bolton just made a major and curiously timed move against Donald Trump
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#1539842 --- 01/27/20 12:28 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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David Jolly (former Republican congressman):

Pretty simple. If a Senator now votes no on calling Bolton to testify they're knowingly engaging in a cover-up.
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#1539843 --- 01/27/20 12:30 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Joyce Alene (University of Alabama law professor):

No wonder Trump wants a quick end to impeachment. He told Bolton he would hold Ukrainian aid “until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens.” What is left of our ideals if The Senate votes w/out hearing from Bolton?
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#1539844 --- 01/27/20 12:31 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Laurence Tribe (Harvard law professor)

How can any Senators who took seriously their oaths to do impartial justice not vote to subpoena Bolton’s testimony now?
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#1539845 --- 01/27/20 12:36 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Amy Fiscus (@New York Times national security editor):

NEW: Trump directly tied the Ukraine aid freeze to investigations, John Bolton's book says. This could upend the impeachment witness debate
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#1539846 --- 01/27/20 12:39 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Rep. Val Demings (House impeachment manager):

There can be no doubt now that Mr. Bolton directly contradicts the heart of the President’s defense and therefore must be called as a witness at the impeachment trial of President Trump.
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#1539847 --- 01/27/20 12:43 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Nancy Pelosi:

Amb. Bolton reportedly heard directly from Trump that aid for Ukraine was tied to political investigations.

The refusal of the Senate to call for him, other relevant witnesses, and documents is now even more indefensible.

The choice is clear: our Constitution, or a cover-up
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#1539848 --- 01/27/20 12:45 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Manu Raju (@Senior Congressional Correspondent, @CNN)

House managers on NYT report on Bolton: “There is no defensible reason to wait until his book is published, when the information he has to offer is critical to the most important decision Senators must now make — whether to convict the President of impeachable offenses”

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#1539849 --- 01/27/20 12:51 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Adam Schiff:

The President blocked our request for Bolton’s testimony.

Now we see why:

Bolton directly contradicts the heart of the President’s defense.

If the trial is to be fair, Senators must insist that Mr. Bolton be called as a witness, and provide his notes and other documents.

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#1539850 --- 01/27/20 12:52 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Donald Trump's day so far:

- John Bolton leaks portion of his book proving Trump's guilt
- House will surely have Bolton testify if Senate doesn't
- Trump calls for violence against Adam Schiff
- He knows it's all falling apart
- Trump is going to prison
- It's still only 7pm
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#1539857 --- 01/27/20 06:19 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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cryborg @cryborg

At this juncture in the Trump saga? We’re witnessing just the tip of the corruption iceberg. What lies below the surface is a massive criminal enterprise.
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#1539860 --- 01/27/20 06:26 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/boltons...-legal-experts/

Bolton’s firsthand evidence puts senators in the difficult position of believing ‘bizarro’ Trump team argument: Legal experts
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#1539861 --- 01/27/20 06:33 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Joyce Alene @JoyceWhiteVance (U of Alabama law professor):

If they would have demanded the equivalent of Bolton’s testimony had a Democratic President done what Trump, GOP Senators must demand Bolton’s now. Not just “vulnerable” ones, but every decent American who believes in the rule of law & the Constitution.
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#1539863 --- 01/27/20 06:41 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Kyle Griffin@kylegriffin1

Sen. Amy Klobuchar on the Bolton news: "I don't know how my Republican colleagues cannot call for witnesses ... We should all be calling for witnesses. We have to get to the truth."
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#1539864 --- 01/27/20 06:43 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Frida Ghitis (World affairs columnist):

Trump’s claim that Bolton cannot testify bec he has sensitive information is bogus. If he can publish the information in a book for all to read, he can tell it to the Senate - and to the American people now.
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#1539865 --- 01/27/20 09:42 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Kaz Weida @kazweida:

No wonder the White House doesn’t want Bolton to testify. They know he’ll confirm the whole extortion plot and it’ll be game, set, match.
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#1539866 --- 01/27/20 09:46 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Orin Kerr@OrinKerr

If Watergate happened today, the tape would come out with Nixon discussing the coverup, Nixon would say there was no coverup, and the GOP would acquit Nixon because there was zero evidence of a coverup.
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#1539867 --- 01/27/20 11:12 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Chuck Schumer:

The @NYTimes report suggests multiple top Trump Admin officials knew the facts and deliberately misled Congress and the American people.

A massive White House cover-up.

All we need is four Republican Senators to get the truth.

https://nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/trump-bolton-book-ukraine.html
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#1539868 --- 01/27/20 11:14 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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John P. Flannery @JonFlan

Republican Senators, what a mess you’ve made. How are you going to explain not calling Bolton to testify now, when the world will have the full story when Johnny’s book comes out in March. Greatest deliberative body? Yeah right - https://amazon.com/dp/B0847FZRBF/ref=sr_...3331&sr=8-1
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#1539869 --- 01/27/20 11:34 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Michael Little @Michael_Little_

GOP senators want to quickly acquit Trump and hope that's an end to it. They are deluding themselves. Revelations and evidence will continue to come to light.
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#1539871 --- 01/27/20 12:59 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-fri...to-closing-out/

Fox & Friends panics over Bolton bombshells: ‘Devastating’ because impeachment trial was ‘on the fast track to closing out’
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#1539872 --- 01/27/20 01:03 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rattled-white-house-was-blindsided-by-bolton-revelations-report/

‘Rattled’ White House was blindsided by Bolton revelations: report
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#1539876 --- 01/27/20 02:06 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Glenn Kirschner (30 year prosecutor):

Schiff must make a motion to CJ Roberts for witnesses. As I’ve been saying all along, if Roberts grants the motion for witnesses (he will) & the Rs vote to overrule him (they might) that will (de facto) be obstruction of justice & accessory after the fact.
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#1539877 --- 01/27/20 02:14 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Fred Harding:

I get the feeling that the leaks are going to expose crimes more heinous as the year ticks by.

I think they are simply going to keep ramping up until they find one that finishes him off.

By the way, I have no idea who "they" is, but they're out there.
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#1539878 --- 01/27/20 02:41 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Jeremy Newberger:

The Bolton Bombshell completely neuters Trump's legal defense. It's one thing when Democrats or their witnesses say Trump broke the law. It's entirely another when a CPAC keynoter, Fox News contributor, life long conservative, Trump picked NSA, first hand witness says it.
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#1539881 --- 01/27/20 02:59 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Glenn Kirschner (30 yr prosecutor) .....Bolton must testify. Executive privilege can’t be invoked to cover-up Trump’s crimes. How might Trump try to stop Bolton from testifying & further exposing his crimes? We probably need only ask the following question to find an answer: how would a dictator handle this situation?
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#1539882 --- 01/27/20 03:02 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Nick Jack Pappas .....Both Trump and Bolton need to testify under oath. Why? One of them is lying, and we all know which one it is.
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#1539892 --- 01/27/20 03:55 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mitt-ro...eachment-trial/

Mitt Romney: GOP senators ‘increasingly likely’ to call John Bolton to testify in impeachment trial
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#1539914 --- 01/27/20 06:29 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/democra...trumps-defense/

Democrats allege a GOP ‘cover-up’ after leaked John Bolton manuscript blows up Trump’s defense
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#1539916 --- 01/27/20 06:33 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-...owers-attorney/

Trump’s legal team is subject to ‘criminal perjury charges’ in light of John Bolton’s revelations: whistleblower’s attorney
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#1539921 --- 01/27/20 06:53 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-l...of-impeachment/

Trump lawyer Ken Starr blasted for his ‘vomit inducing’ hypocrisy as he whines about being in an ‘age of impeachment’
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#1539923 --- 01/27/20 07:22 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/senate-...ns-revelations/

Senate Republicans may have realized they neutered themselves for nothing after Bolton’s revelations
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#1539924 --- 01/27/20 07:23 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/anti-im...entire-defense/

Anti-impeachment conservative admits John Bolton just ‘blew up’ Trump’s entire defense
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#1539925 --- 01/27/20 07:26 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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#1539936 --- 01/27/20 09:16 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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#1539937 --- 01/27/20 09:18 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ken-sta...gated-disaster/

‘Ken Starr punched himself in the face’: MSNBC host calls Trump team’s opener a ‘total, unmitigated disaster’
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#1539947 --- 01/27/20 09:59 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-l...ntel-committee/

Trump lawyers fact-checked on 12 false claims by the House Intel Committee
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#1539948 --- 01/27/20 10:02 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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The president’s legal team is advocating a degree of executive privileges and immunities that would swallow the impeachment power and establish an unconstitutional rule of executive supremacy.

-Justin Amash
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#1539963 --- 01/27/20 11:43 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Lawrence O'Donnell @Lawrence:

The day John Bolton was fired I said Bolton would destroy Trump in a book.

Now Republican Senators feel blindsided?

Doesn't that make them the stupidest Senators in history?
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#1539964 --- 01/27/20 11:44 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Seth Abramson:....

Every aspect of the Burisma story is *bad* for Trump because every aspect of it contradicts what Trump and Giuliani have said publicly, so I have *no* idea why they'd want to go here

This (Kremlin propaganda mixed with irrelevant nonsense) is where you go when you have *nothing*
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#1539965 --- 01/27/20 11:48 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Michael @mterr337:

I'm fairly sure our Founding Fathers expected the Chief Justice presiding over the Impeachment Trial of a president had a more active role to play besides sitting there like a knot on a log.
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#1539974 --- 01/28/20 12:36 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Oh ya! Our democracy may be saved it!

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/there-a...t-trial-report/

There are 51 votes to approve calling witnesses in Trump impeachment trial: PBS
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#1539975 --- 01/28/20 12:39 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Amazing.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/republi...ckly-back-down/

Republicans claim Democrats leaked John Bolton’s book that was given to the White House — then quickly back down
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#1539976 --- 01/28/20 12:41 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/give-me...i-was-terrible/

‘Give me a break’: CNN analyst explains why Trump defense of Rudy Giuliani was terrible
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#1539977 --- 01/28/20 12:46 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Seth Abramson @SethAbramson.....

I was a criminal defense attorney for years and hate embarrassingly sh*tty defense arguments so watching today's proceedings has been really tough
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#1539978 --- 01/28/20 12:51 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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PoliticusUSA @politicususa

Sen. Joni Ernst (R-IA) admitted that for Republicans, the point of Trump’s impeachment trial is to smear and damage Joe Biden.
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#1539983 --- 01/28/20 07:38 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/bolton-...e-given-report/

Bolton book leaked after the White House made copies of the single manuscript they were given: report
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#1539984 --- 01/28/20 08:04 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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From Senator Chris Murphy

Day 2 of the president's impeachment case. My nightly behind-the-scenes report:

Last night, I'm doing the grocery shopping and my phone starts lighting up. Brian Schatz is the first to text me about the Bolton story. I read it, mouth agape, in the middle of the cereal aisle.

I've kept in touch with my Republicans Senate friends over the weekend, and I know the few wanting witnesses were on the verge of losing the case. I wonder if the Bolton news is too late, with too many GOP Senators resolved to speed the trial to an end.

As the trial begins, I start getting asked by press about a proposal by my friend Senator Pat Toomey to pair Bolton's testimony with testimony from Hunter Biden. I tell reporters it sounds like a bad idea.

As the testimony starts, I lean over and apologize to U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren about the bad cough I picked up (from one my kids, no doubt) over the weekend. It's going to be pretty annoying to sit next to me today, but she's a good sport.

You could hear a pin drop as Ken Starr has the gall to lecture the Senate on how the "age of impeachment" has been so dangerous for America. Mouths hang open on the Democratic side. A famous Alanis Morissette song rattles around in my head.

Pam Bondi and the other Trump lawyers spend most of the day savaging the Bidens (as expected), and it become crystal clear to me: Trump is trying to use the trial to do what Ukraine wouldn't - destroy his political rivals.

At dinner, I do a quick MSNBC appearance and then I tell a gathering of reporters that that Senate Democrats would be "co-conspirators" with Trump if we allowed the Senate floor to become a forum for his Biden-trashing operation. I'm hot about this, and I let it show.

At the end of the day, I have one more goal - find Jayvon Eason. The new class of Senate pages started today, and I nominated Jayvon, an honors student from Waterbury, to the post. I find him and we chat for a few. "Quite the first day of work", I tell him.
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#1539986 --- 01/28/20 10:04 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/51-votes/24767/

51 votes!

Bill Palmer | 2:35 am EST January 28, 2020

Palmer Report » Analysis
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#1539988 --- 01/28/20 10:44 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/27/white-house-leaked-bolton-book.html

Bolton followed all the rules for review of his manuscript, but someone in Trump’s own White House leaked damaging material from the book that has resulted in Senate Republicans reversing course and are likely passing a resolution to call witnesses at Trump’s impeachment trial.

None of this would be happening and Trump’s impeachment trial would have been over by Friday without the leak from Trump’s administration.


Someone inside Trump’s own White House is trying to get rid of him, and they leaked John Bolton’s book to do it.
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#1539991 --- 01/28/20 11:18 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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LOL

John Sipher @john_sipher:

Don’t worry Republicans. I’m sure this is the end. You can be confident that there won’t be anymore embarrassing and corrupt information coming out from the Administration. You can breathe a sigh of relief. This latest information is merely a coincidence.
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#1539993 --- 01/28/20 11:35 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Jamie Schler .....

So I was watching Rachel @maddow , as one does, and heard the bit about Bolton and Barr being worried that Trump is trading personal favors with international leaders in China, Turkey and elsewhere, and I got to say it feels like the Ukraine scandal was the tip of the iceberg.
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#1539995 --- 01/28/20 11:41 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Ryan J. Reilly @ryanjreilly:

@SenDuckworth said she was “very offended” by Ken Starr comparing impeachment to war, but won’t let it stop her from being an impartial juror.

“I've been to war. Let me tell you, sitting in a nice room where... pages bring you ice water is not the same as being at war.”
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#1540040 --- 01/28/20 09:10 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-...er-impeachment/


Trump’s threats of violence should warn us what’s coming after impeachment


Paula White, Trump’s “spiritual adviser” and a prominent Christian hustler, has claimed that Democrats, liberals and others who oppose Trump are possessed by the devil and demonic forces.

In a video released on Friday (originally recorded at a Jan. 5 sermon) White even went so far as to use magical enchantments, calling for those who oppose Donald Trump (“satanic forces”) to have their babies die in the womb.
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#1540041 --- 01/28/20 09:40 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Michael @mterr337:

I'm fairly sure our Founding Fathers expected the Chief Justice presiding over the Impeachment Trial of a president had a more active role to play besides sitting there like a knot on a log.



The house failed to do their job

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#1540047 --- 01/28/20 09:51 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
The house failed to do their job

Schiff was just on TV for an hour explaining why that is not true but I am sure you didn't hear it since you have such a closed mind.
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#1540049 --- 01/28/20 10:05 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
The house failed to do their job

Schiff was just on TV for an hour explaining why that is not true but I am sure you didn't hear it since you have such a closed mind.





HE DOES NOT HAVE 67 VOTES

Bolton can not save Schiff

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#1540050 --- 01/28/20 10:07 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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Bolton can talk at any time he wants

What are the odds that another fake leak will come out?

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#1540062 --- 01/28/20 10:39 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Bolton can talk at any time he wants

What are the odds that another fake leak will come out?
Oh I think there will be leaks coming out against Trump every week until November when he loses in a landslide.
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#1540069 --- 01/28/20 11:24 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/wapo-re...-leaving-trump/

WaPo reporter describes how former White House staffers run from ‘mafia-caliber loyalty’ after leaving Trump


President Donald Trump’s history of thinking that loyalty is a one-way street have come back to haunt him.
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#1540073 --- 01/29/20 02:18 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: bluezone
The house failed to do their job

Schiff was just on TV for an hour explaining why that is not true but I am sure you didn't hear it since you have such a closed mind.





HE DOES NOT HAVE 67 VOTES

Bolton can not save Schiff






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxLSurvFVN0

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#1540111 --- 01/30/20 02:16 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Quote:
'GAME OVER,' Trump declares, as old Bolton, Schiff videos surface amid impeachment trial







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#1540112 --- 01/30/20 08:42 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-yahoo-new...-005323332.html

New Yahoo News/YouGov poll shows voters believe Bolton over Trump — and they want Bolton to testify

Andrew RomanoWest Coast Correspondent

Yahoo NewsJanuary 29, 2020, 7:53 PM EST
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#1540113 --- 01/30/20 08:44 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
'GAME OVER,' Trump declares, as old Bolton, Schiff videos surface amid impeachment trial
Trump declares? You believe a man who has lied 16,000 times in three years? Wow

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#1540156 --- 01/30/20 03:41 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben4444
poll shows voters believe Bolton over Trump — and they want Bolton to testify


Schiff failed to do the proper work in the house


Rather then spending too much time on Facebook and talking on CNN he should have focused on his tasks

The Senate does not do work Schiff failed to do

Schiff will not get what he wants out of bolton




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#1540160 --- 01/30/20 03:53 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
The Senate does not do work Schiff failed to do
There have been about 20 impeachment trials in the senate on presidents and judges. This will be the first one without witnesses.
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#1540162 --- 01/30/20 03:55 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Rather then spending too much time on Facebook and talking on CNN he should have focused on his tasks
If Trump spent some time on CNN and instead of all his time on FOX this country would be in a hell of a lot better shape right now.
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#1540168 --- 01/30/20 04:06 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/alan-de...ully-distorted/

Alan Dershowitz buried alive after whining his impeachment comments on the Senate floor were ‘willfully distorted’
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#1540170 --- 01/30/20 04:12 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Evan McMullin (independent president candidate in 2016) .... No senator who votes against witnesses should keep their seat.
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#1540173 --- 01/30/20 04:18 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Laurence Tribe (Harvard law professor) ....Accepting this argument (of Alan Dershowitz) would put us on a short path toward dictatorship, benevolent or otherwise. It’s incompatible with government of, by, and for the people. It’s government by egomania.
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#1540174 --- 01/30/20 04:20 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Andrew C Laufer, Esq, Replying to @AlanDersh:

We did hear. You essentially reiterated the Divine Right of Kings argument that a crime isn’t a crime if the King commits it.
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#1540193 --- 01/30/20 07:17 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/you-kno...tional-madness/

‘You know your client is guilty!’ Adam Schiff burns down Trump lawyers’ ‘descent into constitutional madness'
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#1540194 --- 01/30/20 07:19 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/hell-to...in-their-faces/

‘Hell to pay’: Dem senator serves notice to GOP that impeachment cover-up will blow up in their faces
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#1540198 --- 01/30/20 07:25 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/inexpli...raise-of-trump/

‘Inexplicable devotion to a con man’: DOJ veterans repulsed by Bill Barr’s latest ‘tone deaf’ praise of Trump
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#1540199 --- 01/30/20 07:32 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-c...ased-recording/

Trump caught talking with indicted Giuliani henchmen Lev Parnas in newly released recording
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#1540205 --- 01/30/20 08:05 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/doj-law...chable-offense/

DOJ lawyer argues that ignoring subpoenas is in itself an impeachable offense
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#1540217 --- 01/30/20 08:26 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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#1540222 --- 01/30/20 08:59 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-new...ll-john-bolton/

Fox News legal analyst: Senate Republicans are ‘suppressing the truth’ if they don’t call John Bolton
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#1540223 --- 01/30/20 09:01 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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#1540224 --- 01/30/20 09:09 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/48070...ests-disbarment

Pelosi says Trump lawyers have 'disgraced' themselves, suggests disbarment
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#1540227 --- 01/30/20 09:18 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/white-h...-levels-report/

White House ditches plan to slash Ukraine aid — will keep funding at current levels: report
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#1540228 --- 01/30/20 09:21 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/speaker-...ory?id=68641973

Speaker Nancy Pelosi hints House could take further action against Trump if Senate acquits
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#1540233 --- 01/30/20 09:31 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/we-now-...mer-prosecutor/

‘We now have an all-powerful president’ who can do whatever he wants ‘with no oversight’: Former prosecutor
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#1540253 --- 01/30/20 11:15 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/key-imp...-trump-reports/

Key impeachment witness Jennifer Williams leaving Mike Pence’s office ‘early’ after testifying against Trump: reports
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#1540260 --- 01/30/20 11:39 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/jimmy-c...ernational-law/

Jimmy Carter declares that Trump’s plan for Israelis and Palestinians violates international law
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#1540263 --- 01/31/20 12:13 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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#1540265 --- 01/31/20 12:23 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/a-desce...breaking-point/

A descent into constitutional madness’: How Trump’s impeachment defense pushes the US legal system to its breaking point
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#1540293 --- 01/31/20 10:14 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: ThomasDecker]
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"The fix is in.
No witnesses.
The rest of this should be as easy as getting an all white jury to spring a Mississippi Klansman in 1965."

-Richard W. Painter,@RWPUSA
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#1540418 --- 02/01/20 01:07 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Teonan]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/hbos-ma...a-dictatorship/

HBO’s Maher rains hell on GOP for derailing Trump impeachment: ‘Were officially living in a dictatorship’
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#1540446 --- 02/01/20 04:16 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Former senator Claire McCaskill:

1) Bolton is telling the truth
2) Cipollone was in the meeting
3) Cipollone is a fact witness and has misled the tribunal
4) Cipollone has violated the ABA Rules of Professionall Conduct
5) Cipollone should be disciplined by the Bar and potentially lose his bar license.
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#1540447 --- 02/01/20 04:18 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Hillary Clinton:

With their votes to make the American president accountable to no one, Republican senators have put the interests of one president over the interests of all Americans.

The only remedy now is for us all to vote in overwhelming numbers to replace them—and him—in November.
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#1540448 --- 02/01/20 04:19 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Ms. Krassenstein:

Every history book must have an (*) next to Trump's impeachment, noting that even though the House voted to impeach him, he never actually had a trial because his own party was in on the crime.

In time, I believe every history book will. That's if Trump doesn't burn all books.
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#1540454 --- 02/01/20 04:31 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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#1540468 --- 02/01/20 07:10 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/trump-l...enate-vote-cnn/

Trump lawyers admit they’re withholding White House emails on Ukraine scandal hours after Senate vote: CNN
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#1540483 --- 02/01/20 09:31 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/hes-goi...ower-even-more/

‘He’s going to ratchet it up’: Ex-Trump official warns acquitted president will abuse his power even more

According to former Trump White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci: expect the worst.

“He is going to ratchet it up to another level now,” Scaramucci explained. “He’s going to Trump to the third power now. He’s not going to be exponential Trump because that’s not enough Trump. It’s going to be Trump to the third power.”
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#1540504 --- 02/02/20 10:01 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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Mayday Mindy

We need to make Mitch McConnell minority leader in November if we can’t deteat him altogether in Kentucky. It’s imperative that we take his power away or he will do so much more damage. Flipping the Senate is as important as taking back the WH it’s the only way we fix this
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#1540513 --- 02/02/20 05:59 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/senator...d-boltons-book/

Senator who voted down evidence leaves Chuck Todd speechless by recommending everyone read Bolton’s book
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#1540556 --- 02/03/20 09:01 AM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/tweet-kansas-city-chiefs-super-bowl-donald-trump/24875/

Donald Trump posts stunningly idiotic tweet about Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl victory, deletes it
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#1540570 --- 02/03/20 02:49 PM Re: LIVE: Trump Senate Impeachment Trial [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/the-gloves-are-off/24882/

The gloves are off

Bill Palmer | 9:09 am EST February 3, 2020
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