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#1535132 --- 10/23/19 09:10 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Posted at Ben's request. wink



Ben can't articulate why he thinks it is not true smirk

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#1535137 --- 10/23/19 10:05 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga

Posted at Ben's request. wink

I asked that it posted here. Not because it is true which it is not but since cwjga thinks I deserve my own health care thread. hehe
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#1535493 --- 11/02/19 07:21 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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I am not real concerned about what kind of health care system we end up with.


why did ben not go to canada when he had his most recent health event?

the wait times in canada too long?

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#1535494 --- 11/02/19 07:24 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
I am not real concerned about what kind of health care system we end up with.


why did ben not go to canada when he had his most recent health event?

the lines in canada too long?
Huh? LOL Obviously I am not who you think I am. I have not had any recent health event.
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#1535495 --- 11/02/19 07:26 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: bluezone]
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why did ben not go to canada when he had his most recent health event?
This sounds a like a conspiracy theory by a Trump supporter. grin
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#1535496 --- 11/02/19 07:27 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/foxs-br...o-defend-trump/

Fox’s Brit Hume gets schooled in conspiracy law after fumbling attempt to defend Trump
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#1535497 --- 11/02/19 07:29 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/were-do...iracy-theories/

We’re done with this conversation’: CNN host cuts off interview with Trump defender spewing conspiracy theories
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#1542872 --- 03/02/20 09:52 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Posted at Ben's request. wink



Ben can't articulate why he thinks it is not true smirk


Did Sanders ever say how much medicare for all would cost?
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#1542873 --- 03/03/20 01:44 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Posted at Ben's request. wink



Ben can't articulate why he thinks it is not true smirk


Did Sanders ever say how much medicare for all would cost?
I say Medicare for all would cost next to nothing because instead of paying for health insurance to a private company where the CEO makes millions a year you would pay for it through your taxes.

And you would not have situations like this if everyone had "comprehensive" health insurance. "I am announcing a new directive requiring NY health insurers to waive cost sharing associated with testing for coronavirus, including emergency room, urgent care and office visits," Cuomo tweeted. "We can't let cost be a barrier to access to COVID-19 testing for any New Yorker.
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#1542889 --- 03/03/20 05:34 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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A Florida man who returned from China felt sick. Instead of going to the drugstore to get over-the-counter flu medicine he did the responsible thing and sought medical attention. He tested negative but was sent a bill for $3,270, @NickKristof writes. https://nyti.ms/2Vx8ZwZ
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#1542890 --- 03/03/20 05:37 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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In a perfect world , it all sounds great but sadly reality exist. The predominant problem exist with greedy doctors,pharmaceuticals and hospitals. Medicare and Medicaid are government run and look at the high premiums they force on American citizens. Eliminate the $10 per pill factor, hospitals generating a bill for 20K for a weeks stay and doctors sending you a bill of 400 dollars for one office visit and we may get cost down.
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#1542894 --- 03/03/20 05:52 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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An unfortunate factors in healthcare, government has attempted to control cost through the intervention of "fair and reasonable" cost but health providers are faced with doctors dropping patients in any said network for obvious reasons, the provider isn't reimbursing them enough, which takes us back to square one, uninsured patients.
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#1542951 --- 03/03/20 03:28 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Formermac]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/expert-...g-it-yesterday/

Expert has to explain vaccines to Trump again — even after pharma companies spent hours explaining it yesterday
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#1542953 --- 03/03/20 05:38 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/gop-blo...vaccine-report/

GOP blocking coronavirus bill — because it limits how much drugmakers can charge for a vaccine: report

On Tuesday, Politico reported that GOP lawmakers are holding up a bipartisan emergency funding bill to provide treatment and research for coronavirus.

The main reason? They object to a provision that prevents drug manufacturers from overcharging the government for any vaccines or other treatment.
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#1545441 --- 04/01/20 06:43 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
treatment


Did you take your temperature today?
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#1545444 --- 04/01/20 06:46 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
treatment


Did you take your temperature today?
I know that after answering your stupid questions my blood pressure has got to be off the charts.
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#1545515 --- 04/02/20 11:52 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
my blood pressure has got to be off the charts.


Think positive thoughts

Take a few deep breathes

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#1545517 --- 04/02/20 11:58 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Posted at Ben's request. wink



Ben can't articulate why he thinks it is not true smirk



HMMMMM, this seems so outdated and irrelevant now. or is it?
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#1545519 --- 04/02/20 12:14 PM Re: health care thread [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Within the existing public-private health care system, near universal coverage and improved affordability could be achieved with moderate increases in national health spending. Under one of the plans modeled in the report, which proposes a mix of private and public health insurance, everyone in the US could be covered except for undocumented immigrants. The plan would enable workers to opt for subsidized nongroup coverage instead of their employer’s insurance plan. It would also improve the ACA’s subsidies to help people afford coverage, cover people in states that have not expanded Medicaid, require everyone to have insurance with an auto-enrollment backup, offer a public insurance option, and cap provider payment rates.
What is wrong this approach? It sound easy to implement and relatively inexpensive.


It does nothing to improve the affordability of Health insurance. In fact, it does just the opposite just as the ACA did.

We currently have a combination of private and public health coverage, just like most countries. WE have Medicaid that covers the poor and private plans for everyone else.

D*mn, Cwiggy, You don't know the first thing about the resultant effects of The ACA, do you?

Not only have premiums dropped significantly for the targeted mid-income insured, but 20 million additional Americans are now covered. Vallue-based preventative health care has improved dramatically across the board, and forgive me for pointing out that the states that refused associated federal funds are also the states with the highest increases in both policy and deductibles rates.

Just sayin'.




It's something to witness in due time the words coming back to haunt those that spew words lacking compassion...Funny how we are now in a juncture of universal healthcare, paid for by ours truly, the US government.
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#1545531 --- 04/02/20 01:46 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: bluezone]
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Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s administration has requested an emergency supply of the drugs President Trump touted as having success treating patients with severe symptoms of the novel coronavirus, in a reversal from the state's directive to medical professionals last week to avoid the medication for this purpose.


Is she agreeing with the president?
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