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#1532335 --- 07/19/19 02:00 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Why the moderators let you hi-jack every thread, I do not Know.
What? Every thread? LOL I had only posted on this single Great Debate thread for weeks until you came back and got Headline News going again! You tell the truth about as much as that guy in the White House.
I am puzzled by the ant-Trump stuff you are posting on the Headline news thread? I assume you are trying to get me to post on there? Nope I enjoy reading all the stuff you are posting on there. smirk
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#1532345 --- 07/20/19 01:59 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Why the moderators let you hi-jack every thread, I do not Know.
What? Every thread? LOL I had only posted on this single Great Debate thread for weeks until you came back and got Headline News going again! You tell the truth about as much as that guy in the White House.
How about a comment on this lie of yours?
Still hi-jacking the Headline News thread I see. Tsk. Tsk.
And the beat goes on.
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#1532349 --- 07/20/19 06:38 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Why the moderators let you hi-jack every thread, I do not Know.
What? Every thread? LOL I had only posted on this single Great Debate thread for weeks until you came back and got Headline News going again! You tell the truth about as much as that guy in the White House.
How about a comment on this lie of yours?
Still hi-jacking the Headline News thread I see. Tsk. Tsk.
And the beat goes on.
And on and on. Just like a member of Trumps blind cult base.


Edited by Ben444 (07/20/19 11:07 AM)
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#1532357 --- 07/21/19 03:10 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Why the moderators let you hi-jack every thread, I do not Know.
What? Every thread? LOL I had only posted on this single Great Debate thread for weeks until you came back and got Headline News going again! You tell the truth about as much as that guy in the White House.
How about a comment on this lie of yours?
Still hi-jacking the Headline News thread I see. Tsk. Tsk.
And the beat goes on.
Sad. frown frown frown
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#1532375 --- 07/22/19 02:00 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
Ben444 Offline
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Registered: 09/12/18
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Why the moderators let you hi-jack every thread, I do not Know.
What? Every thread? LOL I had only posted on this single Great Debate thread for weeks until you came back and got Headline News going again! You tell the truth about as much as that guy in the White House.
How about a comment on this lie of yours?
Still hi-jacking the Headline News thread I see. Tsk. Tsk.
Day three. Amazing.
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#1532378 --- 07/22/19 07:21 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
The US spends 3.65 trillion on health.
So why is insulin 10 times as high here as in Canada? I have heard it often said what the US spends on health care per person is twice what any other modern country pays. There is a huge amount of things that need to be investigated here.

Clearly, it is not the salaries of CEOs.
Right lets leave the minimum wage of $7.25 but give government bureaucrats a salary of 10 million dollars.

The current Republican Party consists of white guys making $700 an hour convincing guys who make $25 an hour that guys making $7 an hour are the problem.



Lose the argument on health care and switch to minimum wage. typical.

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#1532379 --- 07/22/19 07:22 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
You know something. I am not real concerned about what kind of health care system we end up with. Getting rid of Trump is the only thing I am concerned about. We will then spend a number of years getting America back to normal. If Trump is re-elected our 240 year experiment in democracy is over. The fact that you don't understand that I find mind-blowing.


Lose the argument on health care and switch to Trump. Typical.

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#1532391 --- 07/22/19 08:11 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: Ben444
You know something. I am not real concerned about what kind of health care system we end up with. Getting rid of Trump is the only thing I am concerned about. We will then spend a number of years getting America back to normal. If Trump is re-elected our 240 year experiment in democracy is over. The fact that you don't understand that I find mind-blowing.


Lose the argument on health care and switch to Trump. Typical.
I will vote for any Democrat running against Trump regardless of their view on health care. Defeating Trump is the most important item in the 2020 election. Anything else is way way down my list of priorities.
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#1532392 --- 07/22/19 08:14 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Why the moderators let you hi-jack every thread, I do not Know.
What? Every thread? LOL I had only posted on this single Great Debate thread for weeks until you came back and got Headline News going again! You tell the truth about as much as that guy in the White House.
How about a comment on this lie of yours?
Still no apology? Typical.
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#1532395 --- 07/22/19 09:59 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Lose the argument on health care and switch to Trump. Typical.


Since you insist I ran across this gem:

AARP Says GOP Health Plan Could Raise Pre-Existing Conditions Premiums to $25,700 per year.

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Yancey Roy @YanceyRoy

AARP leaders, blasting GOP health care bill, say those with pre-existing conditions could face annual premiums of $25,700.


Edited by Ben444 (07/22/19 12:39 PM)
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#1532416 --- 07/23/19 03:10 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Lose the argument on health care and switch to Trump. Typical.

Since you insist I ran across this gem:

AARP Says GOP Health Plan Could Raise Pre-Existing Conditions Premiums to $25,700 per year.

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Yancey Roy @YanceyRoy

AARP leaders, blasting GOP health care bill, say those with pre-existing conditions could face annual premiums of $25,700.
Now you don't want to talk health care either? LOL
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#1532417 --- 07/23/19 03:11 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Why the moderators let you hi-jack every thread, I do not Know.
What? Every thread? LOL I had only posted on this single Great Debate thread for weeks until you came back and got Headline News going again! You tell the truth about as much as that guy in the White House.
How about a comment on this lie of yours?
Still hi-jacking the Headline News thread I see. Tsk. Tsk.
Day three. Amazing.
Day four. Amazing.
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#1532419 --- 07/23/19 10:57 AM US health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: Ben444
I pointed out one example of how it would be cheaper. Have you seen the salaries CEO's make? Sanders was just on TV saying next week he is going to Canada and buy insulin at 1/10 the price we pay here. Under their government run system of course. He is not my first choice for president but he brings out good points here.

Did you know that drugs are not covered under the Canadian system? Except in the hospital. So your argument really does not hold water. How does adding government bureaucrats to the healthcare equation make it more efficient?

* Because the American citizenry pays (by orders of magnitude) up to 100s of times more for the exact SAME pharmaceutical patents, development and manufacturing than do any other country. Therefore, who CARES whether or not they're included in insurance plans? They're cheaper than even the cost of our COVERED 'scripts.

When you enforce the laws against price gouging and reestablish corporate fair-pricing regulations, the cost (and efficiency) of improved infrastructure drops proportionately.

See how that works, Cwiggy?
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#1532421 --- 07/23/19 11:04 AM US health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Did you know that drugs are not covered under the Canadian system? Except in the hospital.
No. I did not know that. But it sounds like the drugs are so cheap they may not be more than our co-pays down here.

see above*
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#1532422 --- 07/23/19 11:14 AM US health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Not seeing how this would lower the cost of healthcare even a little. Even if the bureaucrats work for free.

Really? You don't see how applying the BILLIONS of $ in annual savings from eliminating the components of corporate subsidies, greed and price-gouging lowers the cost and inefficiency of current American healthcare practices?

I'm really disappointed in you.


Prescription Drug Costs Driven By Manufacturer Price Hikes, Not Innovation:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot...-not-innovation

The High Cost of Prescription Drugs in the United States-Origins and Prospects for Reform:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2545691
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#1532423 --- 07/23/19 11:28 AM US health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
So let's eliminate 125 million in salaries. The US spends 3.65 trillion on health. Not seeing how this would lower the cost of healthcare even a little. Even if the bureaucrats work for free.

Consider THIS, then factor in the obscene cost of executive salaries and pensions...

https://youtu.be/EZI4OG1qSzk

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/...drug-companies/
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#1532424 --- 07/23/19 11:34 AM US health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: Ben444
You know something. I am not real concerned about what kind of health care system we end up with. Getting rid of Trump is the only thing I am concerned about. We will then spend a number of years getting America back to normal. If Trump is re-elected our 240 year experiment in democracy is over. The fact that you don't understand that I find mind-blowing.

Lose the argument on health care and switch to Trump. Typical.

FALSE argument:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-adm...-182256922.html
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#1532425 --- 07/23/19 11:39 AM US health care thread [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
So if it is not the government that reduces the price of drugs in Canada, what is it. Unlike the 20 +/- Dem candidates that believe the only solution is a government take over, and why not they love to have power over what everyone does, I am willing to have a conversation.

Don't be delusional. The United States government is a federal system in which the federal and state governments share power and the Constitution outlines the responsibilities of the federal government.

The U.S. Constitution outlines the nation's law-making process and establishes institutions to carry out this function. Our Founding Fathers feared the concentration of power in a single individual or branch of government. To prevent this, they separated law-making powers among three branches: legislative, executive and judicial. The legislature, composed of the House of Representatives and the Senate, creates laws. The executive branch enforces laws under the leadership of the president. The judiciary, which includes a federal court system headed by the Supreme Court, decides the constitutionality of these laws. This separation of powers prevents one branch from gaining influence over the others.

Think "WELL-REGULATED militia."

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#1532433 --- 07/23/19 02:18 PM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Why the moderators let you hi-jack every thread, I do not Know.
What? Every thread? LOL I had only posted on this single Great Debate thread for weeks until you came back and got Headline News going again! You tell the truth about as much as that guy in the White House.
How about a comment on this lie of yours?
Still hi-jacking the Headline news thread. That is so disgusting.
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#1532467 --- 07/25/19 01:49 AM Re: Bens health care thread [Re: Ben444]
Ben444 Offline
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Registered: 09/12/18
Posts: 13813
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Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: Ben444
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Why the moderators let you hi-jack every thread, I do not Know.
What? Every thread? LOL I had only posted on this single Great Debate thread for weeks until you came back and got Headline News going again! You tell the truth about as much as that guy in the White House.
How about a comment on this lie of yours?
Still hi-jacking the Headline news thread. That is so disgusting.
Amazing.
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