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#1531788 --- 06/30/19 07:22 PM Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant
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Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project
• By Josh Durso
• Jun 26, 2019

https://www.ithaca.com/public-will-have-...8bd6d6f0a1.html

One of the largest developments proposed in the last 10 years could be one step closer to becoming a reality if Seneca Dairy Systems and the County Industrial Development Agency can come to terms on an agreement.

The Seneca County IDA will hold a public meeting on Thursday, July 11, to provide an overview of a proposed 10-year, $19.7 million Seneca Dairy Systems project. The development would be a three-phase effort residing on nearly 75 acres of land at the former Seneca Army Depot.

The July 11 meeting will take place at 6 p.m. at the Romulus Fire Hall located at 2010 Cayuga St. The meeting will provide an opportunity for public input.

Critics of IDA deals in the past have questioned the use of tax breaks to help local developers and business owners grow or add employees.

“They’re spending our money. They’re our tax dollars,” one Varick resident said. The resident did not want to be identified but elaborated on their position, which is not an uncommon critique of tax breaks for businesses looking to expand but doing it with the assistance of a tax package. “It’s hard to do business in New York,” the resident said, “but why should every other taxpayer have to foot the bill for these kinds of developments?”

Seneca Dairy Systems manufactures steel products, including a mix of sheet metal, bar stock, round and square tubing, and specialty steels that are used to make equipment for various farm and dairy operations across the United States and other select regions worldwide.

The proposed 223,000-square-foot Seneca Dairy Systems project would be comprised of a state-of-the-art manufacturing facility and steel galvanizing mill, an office complex and a warehouse, according to the IDA. The manufacturing and galvanizing plant, office complex and a small portion of the warehouse would be built in phase one; an expanded manufacturing facility and possible warehouse addition would be constructed in phase two, and a larger manufacturing facility expansion would be built during phase three.

In total, the project is expected to retain 31 existing jobs and create approximately 125 new full-time jobs.

“This project will be a tremendous benefit to those who live and work in Seneca County,” IDA Executive Director Bob Aronson said. “We have been discussing this project with Seneca Dairy Systems owner Earl Martin ever since the IDA first decided to sell the remaining Seneca Army Depot acreage to him back in 2016. He has been meticulously planning it for more than three years, taking everything into consideration along the way.”

Martin said the project will enable the company to keep up with demand in supplying agricultural equipment to the dairy industry across the United States and in other markets around the world. It also reduces the company’s dependence on China which, given the ongoing U.S.-China trade issues, benefits not only the company but Seneca County as a whole.

“We need to manufacture more equipment here in the U.S. in order to reduce the dairy industry’s reliance on Chinese suppliers,” Martin said. “We are committed to this project and to Seneca County, and with the anticipated creation of more than 100 new, good-paying jobs, we believe it will benefit the entire regional economy.”

The former Seneca Army Depot was a military ordnance depot that once employed thousands of service men and women and civilians during World War II. The Depot continued to be one of the county’s largest employers throughout the Cold War. The Army closed the base in 2000 as part of the federal Base Realignment and Closure Commission’s program.
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#1532016 --- 07/09/19 09:38 AM Re: Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant [Re: all seeing eye]
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If you have questions about the proposed manufacturing facility and galvanizing plant proposed for the Seneca Army Depot, please join us at a the public meeting presented by the IDA on July 11, 2019.

While there has been a lot of information provided about the jobs created and economic development opportunities, and the IDA and BOS have already voted to support the project, there is almost nothing available about:

• Air emissions
• Chemicals used in the galvanizing process, including the chemicals used, amounts, and storage on premises
• Hazardous waste
• Disposal of grease/oil and rust removed in the process
• Disposal of spent caustic and acid
• Wastewater generated in the process and its disposal
• Truck traffic and routes to be used
• Impact on County and Town roads
• Risks to emergency providers and the community from fire, explosions and hazmat incidents.

We don’t have the answers to any of these questions and hope they will be provided at the meeting:

Thursday, July 11
6 p.m.
Romulus Fire Hall
2010 Cayuga St. Hamlet of Romulus


The meeting will provide an opportunity for public input so come with your questions.
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#1532148 --- 07/14/19 11:00 AM Re: Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant [Re: all seeing eye]
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You don't have the answers to any of those questions ? Do some homework ! or do you intend to believe everything you hear at the meeting ?
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#1532149 --- 07/14/19 12:52 PM Re: Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Those were the questions I, and others, had before the meeting. Some were answered, some weren't. More questions were raised during the presentation.

Doing my homework. Will keep you posted.


Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
You don't have the answers to any of those questions ? Do some homework ! or do you intend to believe everything you hear at the meeting ?
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#1532151 --- 07/15/19 05:45 AM Re: Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant [Re: all seeing eye]
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come on you already know what's going to happen, all the NIMBYs will come out in full force against it. After all it might turn the white deer green.
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#1532153 --- 07/15/19 09:56 AM Re: Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
come on you already know what's going to happen, all the NIMBYs will come out in full force against it. After all it might turn the white deer green.

Green deer, maybe not. But the potential for FAR worse environmental catastrophe nonetheless remains high. So, "NIMBYs" clearly seem to be on to something when it comes to this risk-fraught industry.

Here is just one example from only a single galvanizing plant:

http://www.bredl.org/pdf3/South_Atlantic_Galvanizing.pdf
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#1532157 --- 07/15/19 10:38 AM Re: Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant [Re: Timbo]
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Here is the project description:

PROJECT SUMMARY

1. UTILITY BUILDING (EXISTING) (1,200 SF)

2. GALVANIZING PLANT (48,600 SF)

3. OFFICES (6,000 SF)

4. MILL/WELD FACILITIES (120,000 SF)

5. WAREHOUSE AREA (47,000 SF)

6. PAVED (CONCRETE) AND GRAVEL AREAS FOR PARKING AND SITE TRAFFIC (APPROXIMATELY 524,000 SF)

7. STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM (POND AND INFILTRATION BASIN WITH RIPRAP CHECK DAMS, ETC.)


The galvanizing plant was explained in the documents and the meeting, but attendees asked for a better description or model or information on the manufacturer or where the equipment is currently in use. It is hard for most people to envision how it will work:

"the galvanizing process will include a total of 12 process tanks, each with an 8,884 gallon capacity. The acid tanks will be kept under negative pressure and capped with a folding cover that will remain
in place when not in use. A traveling crane hood will be lowered into position above each tank before the folding cover is lifted.

Thereafter the steel will be dipped into the process tank and lifted back up to dry before moving to the next tank in line. The traveling crane hood will remain in place until the dipping and drying is complete and the folding cover is closed. Automatic delays in the operating system will allow the steel to drip in place before the traveling hood moves to the next tank in line. The captured emissions will then pass through a scrubber where the fumes will be cleaned or “scrubbed” before passing through the smokestack and ultimately discharged to the atmosphere. The “scrubbed” material is then recycled and discharged back into the requisite process tank to prevent the formation of any waste stream. This operating process is designed to prevent drips to the floor, thereby capturing more material and preventing the generation of waste; prevent spattering, thereby preventing the generation of waste and increasing worker safety; and increase the amount of fumes captured from the process tanks, thereby recycling more material, decreasing waste, and decreasing emissions."


So far, there is no explanation of the mill/weld facility even though it is three times the size of the galvanizing plant. Not even sure, other than welding, which carries a risk, what activities will be performed and what the environmental risks are.
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#1532158 --- 07/15/19 10:43 AM Re: Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant [Re: all seeing eye]
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#1532159 --- 07/15/19 11:27 AM Re: Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant [Re: all seeing eye]
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Article on the proposed project:

THE ROMULUS INCINERATOR PLAN IS KAPUT, BUT A STEEL GALVANIZING PLANT MAY SOON BE BUILT ON A SITE LESS THAT A MILE AWAY. IS THAT OK?


THE ROMULUS INCINERATOR PLAN IS KAPUT, B...AY. IS THAT OK?
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#1532190 --- 07/16/19 01:54 PM Re: Public Will Have Input on $19.7M Project at Seneca Army Depot including Galvanizing Plant [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Shrink to greatness.

Yup.
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