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#1525146 --- 03/05/19 06:54 AM REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof
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REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof

Little more than two years after purchasing the former BonaDent building in Waterloo – the Seneca County Board of Supervisors learned that they would need to spend more than a million more to fix a 20-year-old roof.

The former BonaDent building was purchased for $3.2 million, according to the supervisors, with an additional $700,000 being spent on renovations for the property before departments could move into the space.

On Monday, Joshua Pokracki, of The Garland Company, Inc. gave the supervisors that update. The roof, which would be guaranteed for 30 years – would likely cost between $1.15 – $1.30 million.

Pokracki pointed out a number of issues with the roof system that exists presently on the structure – like the fact that the 42,000-square-foot structure only has three roof drains.

The supervisors were stunned and frustrated, as the presentation was read out to the Public Works Committee, which held a special session.

“We were told it was structurally sound when we voted to purchase it,” said Supervisor Cindy Lorenzetti (D-Fayette). “This is unbelievable.”

The realization that the building that was pitched as a consolidated cost-saving measure would cost more than a million more gave pause to most of the board. “We should have done our due diligence,” added Supervisor Greg Lazzaro (R-Seneca Falls). “We have acted too hastily over the last several years when issues like this have come up.”

Supervisor Lee Davidson (R-Lodi) shared Lorenzetti’s frustration with the circumstances. “This is a really frustrating situation,” he added. All three supervisors expressed desire to see the Board act more deliberately to ensure that these types of circumstances are avoided in the future.

Supervisor Don Trout (R-Waterloo) reminded the board that the purchase was complete, though, and that they should focus their energy on addressing these issues in the future. In his estimation, that meant dealing with the upcoming expense.

Supervisor Lorenzetti asked Facilities Director Bob Stuck who toured the former BonaDent building before the supervisors moved to purchase. Stuck said that He and former County Manager John Sheppard did. Stuck went on to note that even though he wanted a building assessment to be completed – Sheppard wouldn’t allow it.

The board was again whipped into momentary stunned silence.

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#1525168 --- 03/05/19 12:31 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: all seeing eye]
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Was this taxpayer money or the casino money?

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#1525177 --- 03/05/19 02:20 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: Gdog]
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With the way the books were kept during that time frame, not sure anyone can answer you which pot the money came from.
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#1525180 --- 03/05/19 02:30 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: all seeing eye]
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Did the county ever receive the monies from the Casino?

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#1525187 --- 03/05/19 03:56 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: Gdog]
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I am sure they did, but what fund it got put in and what it was used for is the mystery.
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#1525188 --- 03/05/19 04:40 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: all seeing eye]
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Agreed, We still could F.O.I.L. it right?

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#1525189 --- 03/05/19 05:07 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: Gdog]
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Sure.

What would be most interesting to look at would be all the journal entries Bonadio, the audit firm, had to make to move income and expenses where they belong and what the fund balances are.
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#1525190 --- 03/05/19 05:13 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: all seeing eye]
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Absolutely! That will show how inaccurate and all the mistakes made.

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#1525206 --- 03/06/19 08:32 AM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: Gdog]
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Why don't you just ask Nick, or don't you want to admit he was still there at the time.
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#1525207 --- 03/06/19 08:40 AM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: all seeing eye]
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Was he there for the money from the casino or the purchase of the Bonadent property?

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#1525212 --- 03/06/19 08:54 AM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: Gdog]
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yes or don't you remember he stayed on to train his replacement, after he retired.


Edited by scwoodchuck (03/06/19 08:58 AM)
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#1527313 --- 04/02/19 10:22 AM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: all seeing eye]
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Collusion!!

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#1527436 --- 04/03/19 07:29 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: antnee]
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ABSOLUTELY ! by the Shepard haters.
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#1527571 --- 04/04/19 08:45 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: all seeing eye]
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What is the collusion Chuckie? They made the roof leak? Or cooked the books after you left?

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#1527593 --- 04/05/19 05:03 AM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: John Q Public]
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That building was bought with Casino money. The county had to spend it on something, or don't you get that part. If LOCAL government gets money they HAVE TO SPEND IT. Since casino money is not a reliable source and may fluctuate you don't use it for essential services. Kind of like having a part time job to make extra spending money so you can buy a camper. But being john q public you probably don't understand things like that and are in over your head so far you're one paycheck away from bankruptcy.
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#1527812 --- 04/06/19 07:21 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: all seeing eye]
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We all know who you really are Chuck. Just admit you made some bad decisions. None of us are perfect.

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#1527836 --- 04/07/19 07:37 AM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: John Q Public]
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but the County Board of Supervisors had to approve it didn't they.
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#1527837 --- 04/07/19 08:23 AM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
but the County Board of Supervisors had to approve it didn't they.
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#1527853 --- 04/07/19 03:58 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: all seeing eye]
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Originally Posted By: all seeing eye


"If you are doing whatever a shepherd is ordering you to do, then you are a real sheep, a poor submissive being!"


Mehmet Murat ildan



Do you see everything BACKWARDS ?
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#1527861 --- 04/07/19 05:09 PM Re: REPORT: Former BonaDent building will cost Seneca County over a million more to fix roof [Re: scwoodchuck]
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No, I think I have it straight. He made a lot of stupid decisions and most of the board never questioned a thing.

It will all come out.


Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: all seeing eye


"If you are doing whatever a shepherd is ordering you to do, then you are a real sheep, a poor submissive being!"


Mehmet Murat ildan



Do you see everything BACKWARDS ?
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