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#1519108 --- 08/17/18 09:05 PM County Manager Leaving
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#1519117 --- 08/18/18 09:16 AM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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Report: Sheppard Stepping Down As Seneca County Manager
Geneva, NY, United States / Finger Lakes Daily News
Lucas Day
August 18, 2018 06:00 am

Seneca County Manager John Sheppard is stepping down.

The Finger Lakes Times reports Sheppard confirmed with them late Friday afternoon his intentions to step down as manager September 4th. Sheppard has held the position since November 2015 and has three years remaining on his term.

Before coming to Seneca County, Sheppard was town of Seneca supervisor. A retired lieutenant colonel with the U.S. Air Force, Sheppard served as chairman of the Ontario County Board of Supervisors. Before getting into local government, Sheppard was vice-president of Sheppard Grain in Phelps.

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#1519121 --- 08/18/18 01:19 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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If the Board appoints the next County Manager by years end that will be 5 in 7 years.

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#1519122 --- 08/18/18 01:33 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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Anyone else think we should just elect someone to this position, I mean a year term sounds about the length we should go for.

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#1519123 --- 08/18/18 02:03 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: DR. D]
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I'd like to see an elected County Executive and a county legislature. This weighted voting means that people in the least populous towns really have little say in County government.
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#1519124 --- 08/18/18 02:09 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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I think that would be a really good thing for Seneca County.

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#1519125 --- 08/18/18 02:12 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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Originally Posted By: John Q Public
If the Board appoints the next County Manager by years end that will be 5 in 7 years.
do you really think they can find somebody dumb enough to want the job ?
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#1519126 --- 08/18/18 02:13 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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Not surprising in the least. I think there is more to this.

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#1519127 --- 08/18/18 02:16 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: all seeing eye]
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Originally Posted By: all seeing eye
I'd like to see an elected County Executive and a county legislature. This weighted voting means that people in the least populous towns really have little say in County government.
that would mean it would have to be a county resident. I can see that turning into a disaster.
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#1519129 --- 08/18/18 02:30 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: all seeing eye
I'd like to see an elected County Executive and a county legislature. This weighted voting means that people in the least populous towns really have little say in County government.
that would mean it would have to be a county resident. I can see that turning into a disaster.


Have to be a County resident either way. Are you saying you haven't lived in Seneca County?

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#1519130 --- 08/18/18 02:54 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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#1519140 --- 08/18/18 04:42 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: scwoodchuck]
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How is it working with the "pretend" County residents? Not well either. At least they would have to establish residency before running. Not claim they are living with relatives.

Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: all seeing eye
I'd like to see an elected County Executive and a county legislature. This weighted voting means that people in the least populous towns really have little say in County government.
that would mean it would have to be a county resident. I can see that turning into a disaster.
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#1519144 --- 08/18/18 06:11 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: all seeing eye]
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What you implied is not true.
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#1519145 --- 08/18/18 07:56 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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You’re not going to find anyone qualified to run the County that lives here. What you will find in this county is a political buddy that needs a job that’s willing to play the games required to work under this disfunctional Board of Supervisors


Edited by MCK (08/18/18 07:58 PM)

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#1519151 --- 08/19/18 10:34 AM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: MCK]
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Rumor is that some of the supervisors are suggesting naming Sam Priem, the Director of Public Works, as the interim County Manager. That won't be very popular with some people.

" In other action, the closing of West River and Yellow Tavern Roads in the town of Fayette for state-sponsored bridge repair projects drew the ire of Lorenzetti and others.

Fayette Town Board member Linda Zwick said the two roads have now been closed for four weeks, with no work activity going on, causing time-consuming detours.

“We were told the work would be done by July 4, weather permitting,’’ Zwick said. “The weather has been good. The county manager said it would be done by the end of June.” Zwick said another date she was given was July 9.

But county Public Works Director Sam Priem said the contractor left the site to work on another project. He said he has pushed the contractor to finish to no avail. “The contract has a 180-day completion so it should be done before school starts,’’ Priem said, causing groans among some in the audience.

Rick Conley Jr., speaking for the Varick-Fayette Fire District, harshly criticized the delay, calling it a public safety issue. He said the detours are damaging town roads. “Get those roads open. Get after it. Get with it,’’ he said.

Lorenzetti said Priem should be able to reopen the roads if no work is planned. Priem said West River Road should be open Thursday, by he’s not sure about Yellow Tavern. “Do you have the authority to reopen them on a day-to-day basis?” Lorenzetti asked.

“Yes, but I probably won’t,’’ Priem replied.

Zwick said three large farm operators have expressed frustration with the closure of the two roads and the detours, telling Zwick they are costing them time and money. She criticized the lack of notice to town officials by Priem."


http://www.fltimes.com/news/seneca-super...6b720d7f87.html


Originally Posted By: MCK
You’re not going to find anyone qualified to run the County that lives here. What you will find in this county is a political buddy that needs a job that’s willing to play the games required to work under this disfunctional Board of Supervisors


Edited by all seeing eye (08/19/18 10:36 AM)
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#1519153 --- 08/19/18 02:21 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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The County ran fine for two centuries without a County Manager, but has only had problems with one. Seneca County is not a big city county.

We should go back to when the Supervisors ran the County, like it used to be.

Come to think of it, before there was a County Manager there was no Emergency Manager, Finance Director, or Public Works Commissioner... seems to me we could reduce County taxes by what, half a million or so without these positions?
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#1519188 --- 08/23/18 06:56 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: John Q Public]
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We all know why he resigned. So, why would they appoint one of his hand picked cronies.

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#1519207 --- 08/25/18 03:46 PM Re: County Manager Leaving [Re: Gdog]
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Originally Posted By: Gdog
We all know why he resigned. So, why would they appoint one of his hand picked cronies.

We have a lot of theories on that. Don't know about the cronies thing. Maybe someone will enlighten us unwashed heathen as to what happened.

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#1519222 --- 08/29/18 10:05 AM Mitchell Rowe named interim county manager for Seneca moving forward [Re: all seeing eye]
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Mitchell Rowe named interim county manager for Seneca moving forward

Published: 08/29/2018 @ 07:47 am | Updated: 08/29/2018 @ 07:49 am

https://fingerlakes1.com/2018/08/29/mitc...moving-forward/

Mitchell Rowe will be returning to Seneca County.

The man who served as planning director; and then county manager for a span of two years in 2012 until 2014 will return, according to Board of Supervisors Chairman Bob Shipley.

Shipley noted that with the exit of County Manager John Sheppard, experience and passion for Seneca County were crucial to the interim hiring of Rowe. His tenure will effectively begin September 5th.

“Last night the Board [of Supervisors] hired Mitch [Rowe] to succeed County Manager Sheppard,” he said following the decision. “We thank County Manager Sheppard for his dedication and look forward to continuing positive progress for Seneca County under Rowe’s leadership.”

According to some supervisors, the interim status could last as long as a year, or more. However, no definite terms were established at the meeting. Rowe will act as interim county manager until a deputy can be hired and trained for succession.

On Tuesday, Fayette Town Supervisor Cindy Lorenzetti said she was optimistic about Rowe coming on-board as interim county manager. “I think this has the potential to be a positive for Seneca County,” she said of the hiring decision.

The County will be moving into budget talks, as they prepare for the new fiscal year; and adopt a budget in November.

Rowe will receive the same salary as outgoing County Manager John Sheppard.
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#1519227 --- 08/29/18 08:59 PM Re: Mitchell Rowe named interim county manager for Seneca moving forward [Re: all seeing eye]
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I have to admit, I am "speechless" that NONE of you have commented on any of this.

What do you think of appointing a "deputy county manager" and automatically advancing him/her at some point in the future?

Does anyone think that performance and experience should have a role in the selection of the next CM?

Shouldn't the public have more of a role? Maybe we should be looking for an elected county executive, who would answer to the people, not the BOS?


Edited by all seeing eye (08/29/18 09:00 PM)
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#1519228 --- 08/29/18 10:25 PM Re: Mitchell Rowe named interim county manager for Seneca moving forward [Re: all seeing eye]
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What's the point? It's the Board's choice, and we pay them $180,000 a year, plus what their towns pay them, to do just this - appoint people they despise to a position that they hate.

As I said before, this system has YET TO WORK OUT FOR ANYONE EXCEPT THE FEEDERS AT THE TROUGH.

Get rid of the position, get rid of the "fake" heads of departments that don't need them (Finance, Emergency Mgmt, Planning, Public Works - I'm sure that there are others) and let the overpaid ELECTED Committee Chairs do their jobs that we pay them for, and earn their keep.
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#1519251 --- 08/31/18 12:27 PM Re: Mitchell Rowe named interim county manager for Seneca moving forward [Re: all seeing eye]
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Originally Posted By: all seeing eye
I have to admit, I am "speechless" that NONE of you have commented on any of this.

What do you think of appointing a "deputy county manager" and automatically advancing him/her at some point in the future?

Does anyone think that performance and experience should have a role in the selection of the next CM?

Shouldn't the public have more of a role? Maybe we should be looking for an elected county executive, who would answer to the people, not the BOS?


Automatic implies that the person couldn't get fired. This appears more like the choice will have the performance and experience to gain the position. Mitch acts in an onboarding fashion.

Public has a role by electing a BOS. If they can't do this right, vote them out. They certainly haven't proven to be able to select or attract a good candidate. As far as the public, hours of speeches at the podium is not process. It is venting.

In the meantime, the county employees can relax. Mitch will do nothing to stop the sleeping around. Feel free.

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#1519254 --- 08/31/18 03:35 PM Re: Mitchell Rowe named interim county manager for Seneca moving forward [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Originally Posted By: all seeing eye
I have to admit, I am "speechless" that NONE of you have commented on any of this.

What do you think of appointing a "deputy county manager" and automatically advancing him/her at some point in the future?

Does anyone think that performance and experience should have a role in the selection of the next CM?

Shouldn't the public have more of a role? Maybe we should be looking for an elected county executive, who would answer to the people, not the BOS?


Automatic implies that the person couldn't get fired. This appears more like the choice will have the performance and experience to gain the position. Mitch acts in an onboarding fashion.

Public has a role by electing a BOS. If they can't do this right, vote them out. They certainly haven't proven to be able to select or attract a good candidate. As far as the public, hours of speeches at the podium is not process. It is venting.

In the meantime, the county employees can relax. Mitch will do nothing to stop the sleeping around. Feel free.


You make it sound like he will be running a Broethel.

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#1519284 --- 09/01/18 09:32 PM Re: Mitchell Rowe named interim county manager for Seneca moving forward [Re: John Q Public]
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An insult to brothels everywhere...

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#1519495 --- 09/12/18 03:17 PM Seneca County to investigate its former manager, finance director [Re: all seeing eye]
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Seneca County to investigate its former manager, finance director
By DAVID L. SHAW dshaw@fltimes.

WATERLOO — The Seneca County Board of Supervisors voted 10-4 Tuesday to request an outside investigation into alleged improprieties involving former County Manager John Sheppard and former Finance Director Brandi Deeds.

The motion was proposed by Fayette Supervisor Cindy Lorenzetti, with a second coming from Romulus Supervisor David Kaiser. The matter will be discussed further at the board's Sept. 25 committee meetings.

Sheppard and Deeds both resigned this summer.

Pick up a copy of Thursday's Finger Lakes Times to read more about this story.
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#1519496 --- 09/12/18 03:37 PM Re: Seneca County to investigate its former manager, finance director [Re: John Q Public]
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Oh goodie! More expensive activities to keep our taxes through the roof.

Why can’t the new County Manager, Sheriff, and DA handle this?
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#1519498 --- 09/12/18 04:31 PM Re: Seneca County to investigate its former manager, finance director [Re: Steve Dallas]
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I think the Sheriff, as a separately elected official, could conduct an independent investigation. Let's hope that is the way the BOS goes to contain some of the costs of this dark episode.

But, the BOS sat back and ignored all the warning signs of problems with management and finances. Fixing the financials alone, between Bonadio, Nick Sciotti and hundreds of hours of overtime from the Finance Office staff, this mess is going to cost the county over a $100,000 to fix. The auditor announced that the Annual Update Document for 2017, was done so badly, that it will have to be redone and resubmitted.

Bonadio has placed 2 or three employees in the finance office about 80% time, and they have only corrected the general fund errors through July 2017. They have another year of records to go. They haven't gotten to Highway or Water and Sewer.

How anyone can do the county budget with no idea of actual income and expenses is a mystery.

The public needs answers about how this happened, whether anyone aided and abetted it, and what steps are needed to keep it from happening again.

I'd rather pay for controls going forward than fixing past errors.

And if there is malfeasance, then it should be dealt with.



Originally Posted By: Steve Dallas
Oh goodie! More expensive activities to keep our taxes through the roof.

Why can’t the new County Manager, Sheriff, and DA handle this?


Edited by all seeing eye (09/12/18 04:45 PM)
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#1519544 --- 09/13/18 07:35 PM Re: Seneca County to investigate its former manager, finance director [Re: John Q Public]
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Why are people so quiet??? Didn't like the FACT that something wasn't right and the WRONG person's name was plastered all over the news???? Let us see what the investigators find out...might be really interesting and afterwards...I hope a public apology in the same paper that was willing to listen to the EX County Manager will appear.

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#1519555 --- 09/13/18 09:54 PM Re: Seneca County to investigate its former manager, finance director [Re: all seeing eye]
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Seneca supervisors vote to investigate former manager, finance director

By DAVID L. SHAW dshaw@fltimes.com 7 hrs ago 0

WATERLOO — With details to be worked out, the Seneca County Board of Supervisors voted 10-4 Tuesday to launch an investigation into the actions of former county manager John Sheppard and former Finance Director Brandi Deeds regarding county finances.

The motion for the probe was not on the board agenda but came up at the end of the meeting.

It states that the auditing firm of The Bonadio Group did an audit and notified the board of the current condition of the county’s financial conditions “which has resulted in having to extend auditing services beyond the terms of the contract.”

The resolved section of the motion states that the board “does hereby authorize an outside and independent investigation, due to the facts brought forth by the Bonadio audit.”

It also states the probe should look at “the mismanagement and mis-leadership that has led Seneca County down a path that may well cost over $100,000 in expenses for the extended audit.”

It notes the need to hire former county treasurer Nick Sciotti at more than $43 an hour to be a financial consultant and the cost of overtime required by the finance department staff in assisting in the audit “to make sure there is no wrongdoing that took place by the leadership at that time.”

Fayette Supervisor Cindy Lorenzetti made the motion and David Kaiser of Romulus offered a second.

Voting for the motion were Lorenzetti, Kaiser, Bob Hayssen of Varick; Greg Lazzaro, Paul Kronenwetter and Ralph Lott of Seneca Falls; Ernest Brownell of Junius; Lisa Hochadel of Waterloo; Michael Reynolds of Covert; and Lee Davidson of Lodi.

Opposed were board chairman Bob Shipley and Don Trout of Waterloo, Ron McGreevy of Tyre and Walt Prouty of Ovid.

Lorenzetti said she did not want the board to discuss the matter in executive session or to refer it to a committee. She said that’s why she brought it to the floor with a motion to waive the rules to allow it to come to the floor for open discussion.

“Those opposed to this tried to get it referred to committee, but I was hoping for the Rule 29 vote, which needs a two-thirds vote. When I got that support, I brought it to the floor for a vote,” she said.

“I tried to get answers by going through the proper channels, including filing of FOILs. The chairman of the board did not keep me in the loop as minority leader. He did not support my efforts and the county attorney said I was on a fishing expedition,” she said. “I brought up the need to get answers weeks ago and was put off. I felt I had no recourse. This goes beyond finances, which the audit is dealing with. I want to see if the actions of the leadership of the finance department and county manager’s office involved wrongdoing that contributed to the situation.”

Sheppard resigned, effective Sept. 4. Deeds resigned, effective Aug. 1. Mitch Rowe has been hired as interim county manager. The board appointed Halle Stevens as finance director Tuesday night.

Lorenzetti said she’s open to discussion of options on how to and who could conduct the investigation. She said she’s asked Rowe for suggestions and the matter may be discussed at the Sept. 25 committee meetings if not resolved before then.

She said the Sheriff’s Department has offered to conduct the investigation as one option.

In an email, Kaiser said he seconded the motion calling for the independent investigation for several reasons.

“I understand that the estimate for the costs associated with straightening out the county finances could be up to an excess of $100,000 and that doesn’t include the cost of the secondary damage done to the county due to the disarray of that department,” Kaiser said. “Various grants were put in jeopardy and projects were pursued and funded without any true knowledge of where the funds would be coming from.”

Kaiser said that over the last year and a half, he and others questioned several county capital projects and could not obtain clear financial information regarding their funding or even necessity.

“The Board of Supervisors owes it to the taxpayers and the many county staff who felt stifled from bringing these problems forward and understanding as to how this all came about,” he concluded.

Shipley, in an email, said the motion was “hastily made to create an additional, independent investigation into our county’s previous leadership. While I join my colleagues in demanding the highest level of accountability to all Seneca County residents and businesses, I believe this motion was ill-conceived.’’

He said the motion was made under Rule 29 and not referred to a committee. He said this procedural move is reserved for unavoidable, urgent legislative priorities.

“In this case, the matter should have been brought forward two weeks ago when meaningful dialogue and input could have been incorporated to further define and address the scope of an otherwise ambiguous resolution,” Shipley said.

He also said an independent audit has been underway for several weeks, an annual audit of county finances.

“Given the transition of several key leaders, this year’s audit was expanded to accommodate additional areas. To date, the audit team has evaluated a considerable amount of information and had corrected errors mainly related to account reconciliation,” he said. “At this time, we have been given no indication of any improprieties by former employees to warrant the level of suspicion that appears rampant from some individuals.”

Shipley said the board has moved in a bipartisan way to hire Rowe and Stevens, who he said have the full support of the entire board.

“Their appointments demonstrate the positive outcomes that come from working toward solutions rather than divisive and selfish actions that are so often motivated by personal vendettas or political agendas,” he concluded.

The board voted 11-3 to allow it to come to the floor without first going through committee.

http://www.fltimes.com/news/seneca-super...7be77e5898.html
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#1519600 --- 09/15/18 02:51 PM Re: Seneca County to investigate its former manager, finance director [Re: lovinglife]
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Exactly! If ALL of the details get out to the public, this will be the biggest scandal to rock the county! It's not just about what Sheppard and Deeds did, it's also about WHO knew about it and did nothing.

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#1519638 --- Today at 02:46 PM Re: Seneca County to investigate its former manager, finance director [Re: BShatley1952]
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I find it rather amusing that everyone is talking but nobody is giving any details. Keep in mind that the Finger Lakes Times tends to lean towards the Democrats.
You all seem to overlook this statement,
" To date, the audit team has evaluated a considerable amount of information and had corrected errors mainly related to account reconciliation,” he said. “At this time, we have been given no indication of any improprieties by former employees to warrant the level of suspicion that appears rampant from some individuals.”


Edited by scwoodchuck (Today at 02:52 PM)
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