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#1513135 --- 02/08/18 07:21 PM Re: Trinity Church Reuse [Re: pingu]
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Today's FLT indicates that the social mission & business offices of Trinity are now at 78 Castle Street, just 1 block away from St. Peter's. Maybe they can make the last step...

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#1514209 --- 04/19/18 09:03 AM Re: Trinity Church Reuse [Re: Tacitus]
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if trinity gets the approval for their conversion would that be needed?
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#1514812 --- 05/17/18 10:25 AM Re: Trinity Church Reuse [Re: Tacitus]
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FL times states the Zone board approved the project to move forward
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#1514863 --- 05/18/18 07:26 PM Re: Trinity Church Reuse [Re: pingu]
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I expect there will be some legal challenges from the neighbors. How this isn't an impact on the neighborhood id hard to accept.

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#1515599 --- 06/14/18 05:31 AM Re: Trinity Church Reuse [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
How this isn't an impact on the neighborhood id hard to accept.


it is a large structure

if it were turned into a taxable property than it would need to generate considerable cash to pay for the taxes on the property

if it was converted to apartments there would still be people coming and going
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#1515646 --- 06/14/18 04:50 PM Re: Trinity Church Reuse [Re: pingu]
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1) You don't know what the taxes would be

2) Shouldn't rich properties pay their share - you're always going after HWS.

3) Compare, if you can, 30 apartment dwellers following a normal daily routine to 200 event attendees arriving, or departing, within a small amount of time.

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#1515673 --- 06/15/18 09:55 AM Re: Trinity Church Reuse [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
1) You don't know what the taxes would be


the current city assessment is over $2 million for that property

if a developer spends a few million more dollars on improvements do you think the city will place the assessment at around only $50,000?

the assessment will exceed $2 million after a large amount of money is spent on improvements

the assessment will most likely double

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2) Shouldn't rich properties pay their share


all properties should pay their fair share

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3) Compare, if you can, 30 apartment dwellers following a normal daily routine to 200 event attendees arriving, or departing, within a small amount of time.


will those living in the apartments be allowed to have friends, family, guests... come over to visit?

HWS has large crowds
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#1515684 --- 06/15/18 03:30 PM Re: Trinity Church Reuse [Re: pingu]
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Do you think any developer is going to put in a dime without a lucrative tax abatement agreement?

Do you think all of the apartment dwellers will all have large parties beginning and ending at the same time? HWS does have large crowds, but they also have a lot of parking. And you would expect something billed as an "events center" to have more events than HWS if they're going to stay in business.

Maybe this is the best place for the Popeye's Chicken - at least they could have a drive-thru window.

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#1515697 --- Yesterday at 07:21 AM Re: Trinity Church Reuse [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
Do you think any developer is going to put in a dime without a lucrative tax abatement agreement?


the developer for this project has not mentioned any abatement terms

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Do you think all of the apartment dwellers will all have large parties beginning and ending at the same time?


the point was thatthere would be more 'people traffic' than just those living there

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HWS does have large crowds, but they also have a lot of parking.


parking overflows into neighboring streets for events at the HWS stadium

the perfomance center lacks enough parking

there is a lack of parking for students and staff during the school year


Originally Posted By: Tacitus
Maybe this is the best place for the Popeye's Chicken - at least they could have a drive-thru window.


grin

and how many customers would they need to serve daily to stay in business?

Originally Posted By: Tacitus
a normal daily routine to 200 event attendees


more than 200 per day?

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