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#1515114 --- 06/01/18 09:40 AM More winning...
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#1515115 --- 06/01/18 09:46 AM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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yes I'm laughing my ass off due to the fact that Trump and the Republicans called all your links fake news, now tell us son, why is it different today when the policies were already in place 8 years ago. Secondly, with such high output of oil and gas, why are both prices at record highs since Trump came into office? whistle

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#1515116 --- 06/01/18 09:49 AM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Being an engineer, I'm a master at spinning numbers ,so aren't millions of rational and smart people not like yourself.

https://hbr.org/2018/02/the-u-s-economy-is-suffering-from-low-demand-higher-wages-would-help

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#1515117 --- 06/01/18 09:51 AM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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https://newsroom.aaa.com/2018/01/2018-kicks-off-expensive-gas-prices-since-2014/

Now if you so desire, we can discuss each and every citation like adults adverse to this wild dog mentality of "sneak attacks' which manages to lie, tell half truths and mislead, honest individuals can go against a whole gang of you seeing that facts are an excellent partner when rebutting. whistle

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#1515119 --- 06/01/18 11:30 AM Re: More winning... [Re: Formermac]
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Well thank you MacDaddy! You truly honor me with your triple-threat response to my poor humble post.

But truth be told, as a disabled retiree, your opinion of the current economic climate doesn't much count as you are no longer a producer in the this society.

I'm more interested in the opinion of the millions of young people out there, struggling to find a good paying job so that they can pay off their tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt and/or start building towards a successful future. With the number of jobs growing, along with household income, and employers every day announcing new and inventive ways to attract workers, their future is finally looking bright!

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#1515121 --- 06/01/18 11:59 AM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Well thank you son, your sarcasm is worthy to be noted, a trump supporter caught with their ignorance showing and must now use an alternate plan, lies and and whatever it take to confirm your ignorance, thanks for the comeback. grin

In regard to being useful toward society, a vocational training instructor is very available seeing that my educational background is still intact, not to mention the fact that my Son and Nephew will readily admit that on hands training will always exceed the institute of higher learning...fact son!!!!!


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#1515122 --- 06/01/18 12:00 PM Re: More winning... [Re: Formermac]
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http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/31/news/economy/aluminum-steel-tariff-impact/index.html

The tariffs on steel and aluminum imposed on imports from Canada, Mexico and Europe — and the promised retaliation from these key US trading partners — will ripple across the American economy.

You could be affected even if your business has nothing to do with rolls of aluminum or slabs of steel.

First, the price of some products that everyone buys will probably go up.

Beyond that, the trade dispute with these major partners isn't likely to stop with these products.

Mexico and the EU have already pledged to retaliate against American products with their own tariffs.

For example when the steel and aluminum tariffs were first announced in March, Europe signaled it was prepared to take action aimed at Harley-Davidson (HOG) motorbikes, bourbon whiskey and Levi's jeans in retaliation. Farmers could also be hit by tariffs imposed on food exports.

Tariffs will probably also hurt the value of your 401(k), since a trade war is typically bad news for American stocks. The Dow was down more than 200 points midday Thursday.






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#1515123 --- 06/01/18 12:05 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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The impact is already here, my company note the increases in price of steel conduit, mesh wiring and copper.

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#1515124 --- 06/01/18 12:09 PM Re: More winning... [Re: Formermac]
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Most Republicans oppose Trump on tariffs. Trump is totally ignorant on economics. He has just been extremely lucky so far.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-ryan-breaks-with-trump-on-tariffs/

Last Updated May 31, 2018 6:39 PM EDT

Speaker of the House Paul Ryan came out in opposition to President Trump's decision to move ahead with tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from the European Union, Canada and Mexico, saying the move "targets America's allies when we should be working with them to address the unfair trading practices of China."
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#1515125 --- 06/01/18 12:13 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tariffs-trade-war-great-depression-mistake-2018-5

1,100 economists warn that Trump is repeating one of the biggest mistakes of the Great Depression
Bob Bryan
May. 3, 2018, 12:00 PM
More than 1,100 economists, including 14 Nobel laureates, urged President Donald Trump to reverse course on recent trade measures.
The economists drew comparisons between the current tariff measures under Trump and the Smoot-Hawley Act in 1930.
The Smoot-Hawley tariffs helped contribute to the economic hardships of the Great Depression.


Over 1,100 leading economists sent a letter to President Donald Trump urging the president to reverse course on recent trade tactics — lest the US repeat one of the biggest mistakes of the Great Depression.

The letter, organized by the conservative-leaning National Taxpayers Union, warned that recent tariffs and trade protectionism were harmful to the economy. The economists cited a 1930 letter that warned Congress against passing the Smoot-Hawley Act, a large package of tariffs that many studies cite as a major reason for the depth of the Great Depression.

"Congress did not take economists' advice in 1930, and Americans across the country paid the price," the letter says. "The undersigned economists and teachers of economics strongly urge you not to repeat that mistake. Much has changed since 1930 — for example, trade is now significantly more important to our economy — but the fundamental economic principles as explained at the time have not."

The Smoot-Hawley tariffs, much like Trump's measures, were designed as protection for US industries. But they ended up making the situation worse.
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Included on the new letter are 14 Nobel laureates and economists from across the political spectrum, including former chairs of the Council of Economic Advisers under Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton.

The letter also quotes the warnings from the 1930 letter, which warns that tariffs raise prices on consumers, damage industries that rely on trade directly or indirectly, hurt the fortunes of American farmers, and lead to retaliatory measures from other countries.

The 1930 letter also painted the tariffs as a threat to national security.

"Finally, we would urge our Government to consider the bitterness which a policy of higher tariffs would inevitably inject into our international relations," the 80-year-old letter read. "A tariff war does not furnish good soil for the growth of world peace."



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#1515126 --- 06/01/18 12:16 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/trump-ta...m-tax-cuts.html

Trump's tariffs on US allies will shrink the savings Americans gained from tax cuts

The U.S. says it will impose tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from allies such as Canada, Mexico and the European Union.
While the White House acknowledges that these measures will lead to higher prices, the administration argues the effect will be tiny.
But combined with additional tariffs on Chinese imports and retaliatory steps taken by U.S. allies, economists across the political spectrum agree these levies will have a negative impact.

John Harwood | @johnjharwood
Published 6 Hours Ago Updated 31 Mins Ago


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#1515127 --- 06/01/18 12:19 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/trumps-hostile-metal-tariffs-are-a-gift-to-china-obama-official.html

Trump's hostile metal tariffs on US allies are a 'gift' to China: Obama trade official

Trump's metal tariffs on U.S. allies are a "gift" to China, one Obama-era trade official says.
"The world was aligned with the United States in recognizing China's threat around steel and aluminum," says Robert Holleyman.
Bruce Heyman, a former U.S. ambassador to Canada, calls Trump's tariffs "hostile."

Berkeley Lovelace Jr. | @BerkeleyJr
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#1515128 --- 06/01/18 12:21 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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A full blown trade war could lead to another Great Depression

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/canada-announces-retaliatory-tariffs.html

Canada announces retaliatory tariffs on steel and aluminum

Canada will retaliate against new U.S. tariffs by imposing its own trade barriers on U.S. steel, aluminum and other products.
Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland said Canada plans to slap dollar-for-dollar tariffs on the U.S.

Kevin Breuninger | @KevinWilliamB
Published 23 Hours Ago Updated 17 Hours Ago


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#1515129 --- 06/01/18 12:27 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2018/03/trump-steel-aluminum-tariffs/554660/

Trump's ‘Smart’ Tariffs Don't Make Economic Sense

The president says they'll protect American jobs and bolster national security. They'll likely do neither.
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#1515130 --- 06/01/18 12:27 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Donald Trump's steel, aluminum tariffs lift low and moderate income families

Peter Navarro Published 4:53 p.m. ET May 31, 2018 | Updated 8:08 p.m. ET May 31, 2018

Striking a strong blow on behalf of working men and women, Donald Trump's policies are bringing jobs to destitute towns like Ashland, Ky., while revitalizing American manufacturing.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...lumn/659254002/

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#1515131 --- 06/01/18 12:28 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trump-tariffs-w520967

The 4 Biggest Consequences of Trump's Disastrous Tariff Plan

For starters, the decision could cripple the U.S. economy


International allies, nonpartisan economists, business leaders and others have roundly condemned the decision. So too have Republican lawmakers like Orrin Hatch, Bob Corker, Ben Sasse and even outgoing House Speaker and reluctant Trump critic Paul Ryan. "I disagree with this decision," Ryan wrote in a statement. "Instead of addressing the real problems in the international trade of these products, today's action targets America's allies when we should be working with them to address the unfair trading practices of countries like China. There are better ways to help American workers and consumers. I intend to keep working with the president on those better options."


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#1515133 --- 06/01/18 12:34 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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2. Jobs will be lost

The White House has tried to sell the tariffs as a way to increase American steel and aluminum manufacturing, and thus bring more jobs to those industries. But 50 percent of American steel and aluminum imports came from Canada, Mexico and the EU, and manufactures can’t just snap their fingers to make up what is being lost. Experts estimate that hundreds of thousands of jobs will have to be cut in industries that rely on imported steel and aluminum, outnumbering whatever jobs would be gained manufacturing the metals domestically.

Chief executive of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Tom Donahue wrote a letter to his board of directors on Thursday outlining the damage Trump’s trade policy could do to the economy. If the president ultimately decides to pull out of NAFTA, Donahue estimates as many as 2.6 million jobs could be lost. "The current approach – and the obvious retaliation that will occur in response – poses a serious risk of raising barriers and reducing Americans' access to vital global markets," Donahue wrote according to the Wall Street Journal, which reviewed the memo. "Our businesses will lose customers, workers will lose jobs, and American consumers will lose family income through higher taxes and higher prices."
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#1515134 --- 06/01/18 12:35 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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4. America's relationship with its allies will tkae another massive hit

Trump's decision to impose tariffs on its allies is such a breach of protocol that the administration had to do it under the guise of national security, meaning the United States has labeled its closest allies a threat. "It is simply ridiculous to view any trade with Canada as a national security threat to the US and we will continue to stand up for Canadian workers & Canadian businesses," Canadian Prime Minster Justin Trudeau tweeted on Thursday. Trudeau also said during a news conference that the tariffs mark "a turning point in the Canada-U.S. relationship."
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#1515135 --- 06/01/18 12:36 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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3. American exporters will suffer

Canada, Mexico and the EU were none too pleased with the news that the Trump administration decided to lift the tariff exemptions, and they're not taking it lying down. Canada has already announced it will impose up to $12.8 billion in tariffs on American steel, aluminum, whiskey, orange juice and other products. "This is the strongest trade action Canada has taken in the post-war era," said Canadian Minister of Foreign Affairs Chrystia Freeland.
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#1515136 --- 06/01/18 12:46 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Donald Trump's steel, aluminum tariffs lift low and moderate income families

Peter Navarro Published 4:53 p.m. ET May 31, 2018 | Updated 8:08 p.m. ET May 31, 2018

Striking a strong blow on behalf of working men and women, Donald Trump's policies are bringing jobs to destitute towns like Ashland, Ky., while revitalizing American manufacturing.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...lumn/659254002/


Yet in the same vein, a whole bunch of Sears stores are closing, amounting to thousand of jobs, blame it on technology and online shopping which will be the case for thousands of businesses, you can't compete with a warehouse waiting for it's goods to be shipped adverse to laying dormant on a store shelf. When you tout positives, please acknowledge opposing aspects that you somehow seem to avoid.

http://www.businessinsider.com/sears-kmart-stores-closing-list-2018-4

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/04/retail-meltdown-of-2017/522384/

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#1515137 --- 06/01/18 12:48 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Donald Trump's steel, aluminum tariffs lift low and moderate income families

Peter Navarro Published 4:53 p.m. ET May 31, 2018 | Updated 8:08 p.m. ET May 31, 2018

Striking a strong blow on behalf of working men and women, Donald Trump's policies are bringing jobs to destitute towns like Ashland, Ky., while revitalizing American manufacturing.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...lumn/659254002/
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trump-tariffs-w520967

. Experts estimate that hundreds of thousands of jobs will have to be cut in industries that rely on imported steel and aluminum, outnumbering whatever jobs would be gained manufacturing the metals domestically.

Chief executive of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Tom Donahue wrote a letter to his board of directors on Thursday outlining the damage Trump’s trade policy could do to the economy. If the president ultimately decides to pull out of NAFTA, Donahue estimates as many as 2.6 million jobs could be lost. "The current approach – and the obvious retaliation that will occur in response – poses a serious risk of raising barriers and reducing Americans' access to vital global markets," Donahue wrote according to the Wall Street Journal, which reviewed the memo. "Our businesses will lose customers, workers will lose jobs, and American consumers will lose family income through higher taxes and higher prices."


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#1515139 --- 06/01/18 12:57 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Our village idiot at the White House will try to convince the public that he can bring back jobs but too stupid to understand the fact that technology is what is actually killing many jobs already. Maybe we can go back to burning coal adverse to utilizing solar and wind energy, while destroying factory robots. laugh

http://fortune.com/2017/11/29/robots-automation-replace-jobs-mckinsey-report-800-million/

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#1515140 --- 06/01/18 01:01 PM Re: More winning... [Re: Formermac]
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-outdated-view-economy-002034964.html

Donald Trump is ’70s Man. He loves beauty pageants. He puts ketchup on his steak. And he thinks the surest signs of economic might are thriving smokestack industries churning out the raw materials for skyscrapers and locomotives.

Businesses and investors everywhere are on edge as Trump, himself a lifelong builder, is now attempting to translate his industrial-era economic worldview into action. Trump has promised to impose tariffs of 10% on all aluminum imports to the United States, and 25% on all steel imports. The stock market has wobbled on that news, and now Trump’s top economic adviser, former Goldman Sachs president Gary Cohn, has quit in frustration over Trump’s tariffs. Investors have viewed Cohn as the strongest bulwark against economic nationalism that could trigger damaging trade wars, and his departure will undoubtedly unnerve markets further.

“If you don’t have steel, you don’t have a country!” Trump tweeted, in all caps, on March 2. It’s also true that you don’t have a country, or at least a prosperous country, if you don’t have software, data centers, accounting firms and teachers. Yet Trump talks little, if at all, about the segments of the economy that are the biggest source of wealth and power these days. And he seems ready to risk damaging the economy to protect industries that represent a small and declining share of American production.
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#1515141 --- 06/01/18 01:04 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Name the TV, computer and shoe stores in you town lucky strike, wait, what do you mean that these items are now toss away, thus eliminating thousand of jobs that once made America wealthy but greed sent those jobs overseas never to come back, well, unless you'll lie by saying that corporation will spend billions of dollars to relocate these factories back to the states. blush

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#1515142 --- 06/01/18 01:17 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Speaking of "WINNING" This is an interesting link defying your attempts at making Trump and the GOP the winning party.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/26/politics/...inen/index.html

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#1515145 --- 06/01/18 01:43 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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There was a time when political parties stop and listen to one another's views and came up with compromised which enhanced our economy, society and family but in the last 2 years, we are relegated to lies and vitriolic behavior along with racism that has polarize our country
to the extent that accuracy and truthfulness is becoming values of the past while being replace with Trump supporters who's narrowed mindedness always peg the untruthful meter.

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#1515153 --- 06/01/18 02:01 PM Re: More winning... [Re: Formermac]
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These new tariffs will hurt our state, our energy industry, our economy. Not only does Texas import more steel and aluminum than any other state in the country but our two largest trading partners are Mexico and Canada.
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#1515155 --- 06/01/18 02:04 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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I will stick my neck out and make a prediction. Trump will eventually walk away from the steel tariffs after cosmetic offers from EU etc., knowing that his base will have heard his posturing and disregard the subsequent moves.
3:31 PM - 31 May 2018
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#1515162 --- 06/01/18 04:33 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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Trumps tariffs are making us look like fools around the world. This is nothing short of horrible.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...eptable-n879366

Canadian Prime Minster Justin Trudeau on Friday slammed the White House claim that it was imposing new tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum to protect American national security interests.

"Our soldiers who had fought and died together on the beaches of World War II...and the mountains of Afghanistan, and have stood shoulder to shoulder in some of the most difficult places in the world, that are always there for each other, somehow — this is insulting to them," Trudeau said in an exclusive interview with "Meet the Press" moderator Chuck Todd.
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#1515169 --- 06/02/18 04:42 AM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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Just remember, when the tariffs take effect and you lose your job, it wasn’t the Democrats. It wasn’t the deep state. It wasn’t Clinton. It wasn’t Obama. It was Trump. Only Trump.
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#1515295 --- 06/05/18 01:49 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Number One Again: US Restores Top Ranking As Most Competitive Global Economy, As Democrats Fret
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/...conomy-n2487525
Guy Benson Guy Benson | @guypbenson |Posted: Jun 05, 2018 1:40 PM



US voters will differ sharply on whether President Trump has 'made America great again,' but the economy over which he's presiding is undeniably on the upswing -- with several of his key policies playing essential roles in that comeback. The latest piece of data that fortifies America's renewed economic vigor is a surge in international competitiveness, as measured by a closely-watched annual ranking from a Switzerland-based think tank. Following tax reform's burst of hiring and growth, the United States has 'leapfrogged' back into the top slot (via Bloomberg):

The U.S. dethroned Hong Kong to retake first place among the world’s most competitive economies, thanks to faster economic growth and a supportive atmosphere for scientific and technological innovation, according to annual rankings by the Switzerland-based IMD World Competitiveness Center. The U.S., which reclaimed the No. 1 spot for the first time since 2015, scored especially well in international investment, domestic economy and scientific infrastructure sub-categories while earning below-average marks in public finance and prices. The renewed top ranking aligns with the positive U.S. growth narrative over the past year. Growth averaged 2.9 percent in the four quarters through March, versus 2 percent in the prior period.

Meanwhile, in addition to the fabulous May jobs report (which featured the lowest black unemployment rate ever recorded), US consumer confidence spiked to a 17-year high last month -- leading to a surge in consumer spending: "Americans’ spending gathered further momentum in April as incomes continued to rise, a sign consumers could drive stronger economic growth in the second quarter. Personal-consumption expenditures, a measure of household spending on everything from health care to magazines, increased a seasonally adjusted 0.6% in April from the prior month, the Commerce Department said Thursday. That was the largest increase in five months and above the 0.4% rise that economists...expected," the Wall Street Journal reports. The good news doesn't stop there. On President Trump's 500th day in office, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell delivered a floor speech highlighting that more than one million American jobs have been created since the passage of tax reform:



"Since President Trump was elected alongside a Republican Congress, the number of Americans who say they’re optimistic about finding a good job has jumped by 25 percentage points. And small business owners report in record numbers that they’re optimistic about prospects of hiring new employees...But as impressive as some of these statistics may be, I think it’s important to keep in mind that these stories are -- at the end of the day -- human stories. More than one million new jobs have been created just since we passed tax reform last December. That’s not an abstract number...These aren’t just economic statistics. They are American men and women who have new chances to support their families and build their lives that they simply did not have under the policies of the previous administration. I’m glad we fought, won -- and will continue to win -- major accomplishments for the middle-class families we represent."

One million new jobs (and counting), a sizable portion of which the CBO attributes directly to the GOP tax law, which every single Democrat in Congress opposed -- making false, apocalyptic predictions to justify their hysterical, knee-jerk resistance. Like Hillary Clinton, they're being proven wrong by actual results, and they're responding with a 'repeal' tantrum. Repealing the tax cuts for middle class families (all income groups received a tax cut) would reduce incomes and hamper economic consequences. Repealing the business tax cuts, which restored American competitiveness, would claw back crucial progress on job creation and wage growth. It's not hard to tell that the robust economic news is now a source of alarm to election-minded Democrats. Here's tre hilarious spin:


Nancy Pelosi
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The #JobsReport shows that strong employment numbers mean little to the families hit with soaring new costs under the Republicans' watch. https://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/6118/

9:58 AM - Jun 1, 2018

Pelosi Statement on May Jobs Report - Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi
“May’s jobs report shows that strong employment numbers mean little to the families hit with soaring new costs under the Republicans' watch.

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A strong jobs report on Friday bolstered the GOP’s argument that the economy is humming under President Trump, raising Republican optimism for the midterms. The economy added 223,000 jobs in May, a bigger than expected number that was coupled with news that unemployment had fallen to 3.8 percent. It extends the good economic news for Trump and the GOP, which has seen a series of favorable jobs reports this year...The president’s party almost always loses congressional seats in the first midterm. At the same time, some acknowledge the economy could help the GOP. “I do think this is the single biggest challenge, by far, faced by the Democrats, and it will determine whether we pick up 30 seats or 50 seats,” Celinda Lake, a Democratic pollster, said of the economy. Democrats need to pick up 23 seats to win control of the House and two seats to seize the Senate. “We have to get ahead on the economy. We’re still behind today,” Lake added. Trump’s job approval rating has picked up this year, and the once-substantial lead that Democrats had on the generic congressional ballot has shrunk.

Why should voters trust Democrats on the economy? Their policies helped contribute to the 2008 meltdown, then choked what should have been a major bounceback with wasteful and destructive policies, leading to the slowest recovery since World War II. After that, they've railed against Republican-led progress, fighting it at every turn. If not for a unified GOP government, our economy would likely still be puttering along. Democrats see all this and wring their hands as Trump gets the credit, with 2018 polling moving accordingly:

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Day 500: Dems’ generic ballot share drops to lowest of Trump’s presidency as his job approval rises to highest since March 2017 https://hotair.com/archives/2018/06/04/d...nce-march-2017/

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I know what you’re thinking, that his numbers are rising and the Dems’ are falling because of Friday’s dynamite jobs report. Not really the case, as it turns out. Here’s Trump, who’s at 44.6 percent today, a number he hasn’t touched since March 12 of last year...In reality, though, only two polls of Trump’s job approval have been conducted since the jobs report came out. One was Rasmussen, which had him at 48 percent but which normally has him several points higher than other pollsters do. The other was Gallup, which put him at a ho-hum 41 percent. His 44.6 percent number is built on a trifecta of polls that came out *before* the jobs report: Reuters, YouGov, and Harvard-Harris all had him at 44-45 percent. And the generic ballot? Not a single poll has been published about that since Friday...Democrats are down to 43 percent even, nearly a full point lower than their next-lowest tally of the Trump era.

A blue wave may yet crash down on the GOP (this distinction is important, and references the late breaker effect that propelled Republicans to a smashing win in 2014), but the roaring economy is unquestionably buoying the GOP's chances.

UPDATE - More promising economic developments, suggesting that America's already-strong trajectory has room for even more improvement:

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Job openings in the US now exceed the total number of unemployed by 352,000. New JOLTS data out this morning show 6.698 million job openings in April, while the total number of unemployed civilians was 6.346 million.

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#1515297 --- 06/05/18 02:03 PM Re: More winning... [Re: cwjga]
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Now please address the reason that we have the highest rate of gun violence in our schools, why do we pay the highest healthcare premium compare to other countries? Why do we have the largest racial divide of most develop nations? Why does other countries possess the majority of scientists, engineers, technology genius? Seeing that you possess neither wealth or education, I think that your name failed to make this list of common wealth and education among American citizens. Yes you're just that gullible.

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#1515299 --- 06/05/18 02:11 PM Re: More winning... [Re: cwjga]
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It's hilarious to watch you mimic trump who is currently embarrassed by the Philadelphia Eagle cancelling an appearance due to his racism. Presently he's touting the economy as we speaks but (Looking around) no Eagle player came to hear it. Please note a fact for you dullards, no Eagle player took a knee this past season yet FOX News embarrassed themselves by offering a picture of a teammate praying for an injured player...how low can you go? A rich White man with no friends or ethics, maybe his endeavors are to take you working stiff's money and give that to other rich White men. You've mentioned the term Capitalism? wink

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#1515317 --- 06/06/18 07:16 AM Re: More winning... [Re: cwjga]
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Good News: The Booming Trump Economy Looks 'Unstoppable'
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The Democrats said it couldn’t be done. Former President Obama said it takes more than waving a magic wand when it comes to job creation, which is rich because he was no wizard at job creation. With President Trump, jobs are being created. So many jobs—you won’t believe how many jobs. Three million since he was elected. Now, with a solid May jobs report—223,000 jobs created—behind him, the experts are coming around to the conclusion that the Trump economy is not just robust, but “unstoppable. Second quarter growth is projected to be anywhere between 3.6 and 4.6 percent. Put that in your pipe and smoke it (via CNBC):

In the face of persistent fears that the world could be facing a trade war and a synchronized slowdown, the U.S. economy enters June with a good deal of momentum.

Friday's data provided convincing evidence that domestic growth remains intact even if other developed economies are slowing. A better-than-expected nonfarm payrolls report coupled with a convincing uptick in manufacturing and construction activity showed that the second half approaches with a tail wind blowing.

"The fundamentals all look very solid right now," said Gus Faucher, chief economist at PNC. "You've got job growth and wage gains that are supporting consumer spending, and tax cuts as well. There's a little bit of a drag from higher energy prices, but the positives far outweigh that. Business incentives are in good shape."

The day started off with the payrolls report showing a gain of 223,000 in May, well above market expectations of 188,000, and the unemployment rate hitting an 18-year low of 3.8 percent.

Then, the ISM manufacturing index registered a 58.7 reading — representing the percentage of businesses that report expanding conditions — that also topped Wall Street estimates. Finally, the construction spending report showed a monthly gain of 1.8 percent, a full point higher than expectations.

[…]

Already, the Atlanta Fed's GDPNow tracker sees the second quarter rising by 4.8 percent. While the measure also was strongly optimistic on the first quarter as well, at one point estimating 5.4 percent growth, other gauges are positive as well. CNBC's Rapid Update, for instance, puts the April-to-June period at 3.6 percent.

So, yeah—passing that tax reform that has already benefitted over three million workers was terrible. The jobs numbers are awful. Of course, this is what Democrats think. They’re so engulfed in Trump Derangement Syndrome. They’ve become immobile. They looked at the initial poll numbers for the tax reform package. Yes, they were bad, but everyone knew they would get better. When the bonuses were doled out—averaging $1,000 and in some cases, $3,000, to workers, the polls shifted. Over 250 companies have benefitted from this bill. It’s created a better job-creating and investing climate. Small business and consumer confidence levels are at record highs. The president’s approval rating has been ticking up. The generic ballot advantage Democrats had over Republicans has shrunk to single-digits. And now, from the Labor Department, “For the first time on record, the number of American job openings exceeds the number of job seekers.”

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Love him or hate him, President Trump is getting the economy back on track and if we have to bulldoze Democrats to keep it going, then so be it. Get out of the way, liberals. The Trump train has no time for your nonsense.
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#1515318 --- 06/06/18 10:33 AM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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Most Republicans oppose Trump on tariffs. Trump is totally ignorant on economics. He has just been extremely lucky so far.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-ryan-breaks-with-trump-on-tariffs/

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Speaker of the House Paul Ryan came out in opposition to President Trump's decision to move ahead with tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from the European Union, Canada and Mexico, saying the move "targets America's allies when we should be working with them to address the unfair trading practices of China."



Ignorance isn't bliss once the downside of overspending and deregulation comes into play. A few trump supporters are bragging about the economy that Obama built but their ignorance is directed toward the same policies and actions that relegated Obama to rectify the problem his predecessor created Which BTW happen be another dullard Republican president. Like I asked cwjga, where is your enriched life since trump came into office being that the fool gives all his "increases" to the "TRUMP" foundation

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#1515324 --- 06/06/18 11:28 AM Re: More winning... [Re: Formermac]
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More winning!!!!

http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/06/news/economy/mexico-us-tariffs-retaliation/index.html



http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article210364339.html




https://www.americanprogressaction.org/i...erican-workers/



Those of us with common sense and mathematics skills understand this simple fact, whatever China/Mexico pay to us in tariffs, they recoup the cost by surcharging us, for the simple minded son, who ultimately pay? confused

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#1515485 --- 06/12/18 07:18 AM Re: More winning... [Re: cwjga]
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Putting America First Has Made USA No. 1
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The left is quickly running out of excuses for why Donald Trump's economic policies have caused a boom rather than the bust that they predicted with such great certainty.

Last year, when the U.S. economy began to percolate with faster growth, the media and other Trump haters argued that this simply reflected a pickup in worldwide growth: Trump was riding the wave of what economists were calling "synchronized growth."

But now what do they have to say? The latest indicators are that, as a Wall Street Journal headline reported on June 3: "Global Economic-Growth Story Fades." Japan's growth rate is estimated to have slowed to slightly negative in the first quarter. The European Union was at an anemic 0.4 percent. The pace of global growth is expected to be much slower over the next two years, according to the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

Then there is the outlier: the United States. Here at home, growth is sizzling. Almost all economists now predict a growth rate of above 4 percent for the second quarter of 2018, and Dan Clifton of Strategas, one of the best forecasters of recent times, believes we may hit 5 percent later this year. He points to the surge of investment capital flowing into the United States and how the increased business spending points to several more quarters of this torrid growth. Meanwhile, the rest of the world treads water.

So much for synchronized swimming.

Then there is the argument that Trump's policies have nothing to do with the American prosperity burst. Politico's economics reporter recently published a column insisting that the "GOP tax cut is not why (the) economy is booming." He contemptuously added, "Economist are rolling their eyes at candidates' claims (that Trump's policies inspired faster growth)." Which economists?


As it happens, this is the same gang that was dead wrong about the likelihood of growth in the first place. Now they argue that the tax cuts are just kicking in and can't account for the increased economic activity. But this ignores the anticipatory effect: Businesses are anticipating the tax bill's lower rates on their profits and investments and making decisions accordingly.

Whatever the cause, it is undeniable that America has a new spring in its step. After a decade of malaise, the American economy is the envy of the world today. A recent Bloomberg article reports: "The U.S. dethroned Hong Kong to retake first place among the world's most competitive economies, thanks to faster economic growth and a supportive atmosphere for scientific and technological innovation, according to annual rankings by the Switzerland-based IMD World Competitiveness Center."

But the ultimate judges of all this are the American people -- the voters. They know something big is going on here.

In the years before the 2016 election, about 3 in 10 voters described the economy as good or great. This year, 7 in 10 do. That surge in optimism began immediately after Trump's election and hasn't subsided. The same trend is true for the confidence of small businesses and manufacturing businesses. Up, up and away.

Perhaps the best news of all is to think that maybe Trump's critics are right that the economic thrust from the tax cut hasn't even kicked in yet. If that's true, then buckle up, because we're in for a hell of a ride.


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#1515486 --- 06/12/18 08:31 AM Re: More winning... [Re: cwjga]
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A little tidbit of reality, America has been #1 for decades, why do you think immigrants come here? but in the last 18 months our credibility as decent neighbors to Canada, Europe etc. has taken a huge hit due to your boy Donald J. Trump extraordinaire, you know, the master of destruction, 3500 lies, turning Washington upside down and inside out, so if you find these attributes to be redeeming, you just confirm what we smart Liberals knew all along, it doesn't take much to impress some people and their expectations are so low that a senior in high school has a better deposition and intelligence to run this country far greater than Trump.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/11/politics/trump-kim-summit-singapore/index.html

Amazingly as of the Trump era, dictators,killers and thugs are the people that impress Trump while PM from France, Canada and Germany are the bad guys. IMPRESSIVE crazy


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The Trump Doctrine: 'We're America, Bitch'
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If there is one field where the liberal news media gets all paranoid and totally out of control, it’s foreign policy in the age of Trump. The president is going to start a nuclear war because he tweets. Did anyone really believe that who wasn’t an addict of MSNBC (or is it MSDNC)? He’s not a madman. In fact, President Trump was given much credit by South Korea for brining North Korea to the negotiating table. Discussions about denuclearization and a peace treaty to end the Korean War were also discussed. Kim Jong-un, the murderous dictator of North Korea, also ventured onto South Korean soil to meet President Moon Jae-in, a first since the end of the Korean War. No nuclear war started. At the G-7 Summit in Quebec, yeah—there was some consternation about President Trump’s anti-Obama attitude towards the whole conference. Europe’s balking at U.S. trade policy, which includes tariffs, is a significant point of contention. Long story short; Trump threw a grenade into the dojo of the liberal international order.

If there is also one field for the elite, the condescending slice of America’s academics who were laid waste in 2016, to gripe and moan about the president, it’s foreign policy. The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg wrote a piece about what’s emerging as the Trump Doctrine, which has so far been amorphous and unable to be described. That’s partially how the president wants it, but it could be summed up in three words: “we’re America, bitch,” though this was one of three summations he could best describe after speaking with experts in this field—and with Trump officials:

The Brookings Institution scholar (and frequent Atlantic contributor) Thomas Wright argued in a January 2016 essay that Trump’s views are both discernible and explicable. Wright, who published his analysis at a time when most everyone in the foreign-policy establishment considered Trump’s candidacy to be a farce, wrote that Trump loathes the liberal international order and would work against it as president; he wrote that Trump also dislikes America’s military alliances, and would work against them; he argued that Trump believes in his bones that the global economy is unfair to the U.S.; and, finally, he wrote that Trump has an innate sympathy for “authoritarian strongmen.”

[…]

The third-best encapsulation of the Trump Doctrine, as outlined by a senior administration official over lunch a few weeks ago, is this: “No Friends, No Enemies.” This official explained that he was not describing a variant of the realpolitik notion that the U.S. has only shifting alliances, not permanent friends. Trump, this official said, doesn’t believe that the U.S. should be part of any alliance at all. “We have to explain to him that countries that have worked with us together in the past expect a level of loyalty from us, but he doesn’t believe that this should factor into the equation,” the official said.

The second-best self-description of the Trump Doctrine I heard was this, from a senior national-security official: “Permanent destabilization creates American advantage.” The official who described this to me said Trump believes that keeping allies and adversaries alike perpetually off-balance necessarily benefits the United States, which is still the most powerful country on Earth. When I noted that America’s adversaries seem far less destabilized by Trump than do America’s allies, this official argued for strategic patience. “They’ll see over time that it doesn’t pay to argue with us.”

The best distillation of the Trump Doctrine I heard, though, came from a senior White House official with direct access to the president and his thinking. I was talking to this person several weeks ago, and I said, by way of introduction, that I thought it might perhaps be too early to discern a definitive Trump Doctrine.

“No,” the official said. “There’s definitely a Trump Doctrine.”

“What is it?” I asked. Here is the answer I received:

“The Trump Doctrine is ‘We’re America, Bitch.’ That’s the Trump Doctrine.”

[…]

I asked this official to explain the idea. “Obama apologized to everyone for everything. He felt bad about everything.” President Trump, this official said, “doesn’t feel like he has to apologize for anything America does.” I later asked another senior official, one who rendered the doctrine not as “We’re America, Bitch” but as “We’re America, Bitches,” whether he was aware of the 2004 movie Team America: World Police, whose theme song was “America, F**k Yeah!”

“Of course,” he said, laughing. “The president believes that we’re America, and people can take it or leave it.”


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Goldberg adds that Wright’s analysis was “prophetic,” as Trump is supposedly cozying up to strongmen, which, by the way, is not an unprecedented move in American foreign policy history. He also notes that maybe there is some inherent quality to it, though Goldberg also says that there’s a delusional aspect to it in the sense that it could end up weakening America by “demoralizing freedom-seeking people around the world.”

This isn’t shocking. America First—how many times was that said on the trail, the inauguration, and even in some speeches today? There’s a new sheriff in town. He’s not Obama. He’s a cheerleader for the nation, and yeah—it’s a take it or leave it proposition. I don’t mind this. I don’t mind “we’re America, bitch.” The country wanted a bomb thrower, someone who would shake the system. That is Donald J. Trump. It’s also an easily marketed and understood message to his base. Let’s coast with this. I don’t mind bonfires. I like watching things burn from time to time and Europe should be wary of trying to go at it alone.
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Let's just take a second to meditate on the fact that @realDonaldTrump says we now have an "excellent relationship" with Kim Jong-un, the dictator of the most murderous regime on Earth and Canada's Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, deserves to go to a special place in Hell.
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#1515492 --- 06/12/18 10:37 AM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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Let's just take a second to meditate on the fact that @realDonaldTrump says we now have an "excellent relationship" with Kim Jong-un, the dictator of the most murderous regime on Earth and Canada's Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, deserves to go to a special place in Hell.


Sorry you lost that spin when Obama became buddies with Castro. blush
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Let's just take a second to meditate on the fact that @realDonaldTrump says we now have an "excellent relationship" with Kim Jong-un, the dictator of the most murderous regime on Earth and Canada's Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, deserves to go to a special place in Hell.
Sorry you lost that spin when Obama became buddies with Castro. blush
Obama did not praise Castro the way that Trump is praising Kim.

As bad as the Castro regime was, it was not half as bad as North Korea.

On top of that, Trumps fight with Canada is appalling.
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#1515552 --- 06/13/18 10:35 AM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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Let's just take a second to meditate on the fact that @realDonaldTrump says we now have an "excellent relationship" with Kim Jong-un, the dictator of the most murderous regime on Earth and Canada's Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, deserves to go to a special place in Hell.
Sorry you lost that spin when Obama became buddies with Castro. blush
Obama did not praise Castro the way that Trump is praising Kim.

As bad as the Castro regime was, it was not half as bad as North Korea.

On top of that, Trumps fight with Canada is appalling.



Gotta say Kyle you make my day. When I need a laugh I just check out your posts.
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#1515554 --- 06/13/18 10:38 AM Re: More winning... [Re: cwjga]
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Yes simpletons have the tendency to possess this odd looking glaze with a slightly turned up lip similar to a smile.

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#1515555 --- 06/13/18 10:42 AM Re: More winning... [Re: cwjga]
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I also love the fact that you're so simple in believing that you're ignoring me but somehow too stupid to realize the fact that your posts coincide with mines in regard to timing, care to engage me for a minute but seeing that I can blow you out the water in 20 seconds, no engagement is necessary. RIGHT?????? whistle

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Let's just take a second to meditate on the fact that @realDonaldTrump says we now have an "excellent relationship" with Kim Jong-un, the dictator of the most murderous regime on Earth and Canada's Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, deserves to go to a special place in Hell.
Sorry you lost that spin when Obama became buddies with Castro. blush
Obama did not praise Castro the way that Trump is praising Kim.

As bad as the Castro regime was, it was not half as bad as North Korea.

On top of that, Trumps fight with Canada is appalling.
Gotta say Kyle you make my day. When I need a laugh I just check out your posts.
Really? But you can't say why? Just another stupid cartoon coming?
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If this is all...

TRUMP LEGITIMIZED THE WORLD'S MOST BRUTAL DICTATOR...IN EXCHANGE FOR NOTHING NEW.

They reaffirmed EXISTING signed documents. Weak commitments to "work toward" denuclearization.

We gave up SO MUCH for this meeting.

Kim wins. Trump, America, and Allies lose
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N. Korean State TV is now reporting that Trump promised to end joint US/S. Korea military exercises and END US SANCTIONS, and we have no way of knowing which liar is lying.

US State TV is reporting the greatest deal ever for the US. We do know they are lying.
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#1515629 --- 06/14/18 12:30 PM Re: More winning... [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics/ig-report-clinton-email-investigation/index.html

After a long awaited report, Donald Trump will have to regroup in what he thought would be a scathing rebuke of James Comey but find that Comey only managed to hurt Hillary, which was her criticism and premise the day after the national election. Over the next hours and days, watch what made Donald the "spin miester" while his followers await their new orders.

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#1515630 --- 06/14/18 01:35 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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August 8 2016 Strzok-Page texts

Page: [Trump’s] not ever going to become President, right? Right?!

Strzok: No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.
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Texts from two agents, actively investigating Hillary, and having an extramarital affair. Yet, even with this, Dems will still argue until their death that the FBI is an above-board, legitimate organization, with no political bias, doing the best that they could in a difficult situation; the problem is Trump, not the FBI; Trumps the corrupt one.

And to make matters worse, the last part, Strzok's reply, had been intentionally left out of all previous reports to Congress. Nope, no corruption here; move along.

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#1515631 --- 06/14/18 01:40 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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LOL, Let the spin begin
Kinda of like the adage of making Obama a one term president and the Russians involving themselves in our election. I welcome your position but somehow any spin changes the current tactics and action s of Trump...unless you're implying the "Hillary and Comey made me crooked" laugh


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This is just mental illness. It's really scary to have a person like this in charge of the country. Every day I am terrified.
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The same Donald Trump who called NFL players “sons of bitches” for peacefully protesting racial injustice just saluted a North Korean general. There is only one person who continually disrespects the American flag and its Donald Trump.

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Saluting a military officer from a thug regeim?

You sir, are a traitor.
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#1515641 --- 06/14/18 01:57 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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Now lucky, what have you or Trump won seeing that you posted under that topic? A free pass to criminal behavior which trump has been fighting for 16 months. Now for your ignorance, why did Comey reopen the probe? rogue FBI agents were to be held accountable for their personal actions but hoping not to compromise the Russian investigation or does this report bring that to an end? whistle

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#1515642 --- 06/14/18 02:09 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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The focused hypocrisy on your part is to get frustrated because the report has not the impact or outcome you wanted but simultaneously, the reports and investigative info levied against Trump's is construed as "FAKE" news Now which is it son? Lastly, Trump won the presidency didn't he? but no explanation as what he brought to the White House in regard to Russian activity. Credibility is credibility.

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#1515643 --- 06/14/18 02:53 PM Re: More winning... [Re: Formermac]
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Now lucky, what have you or Trump won seeing that you posted under that topic?


Originally Posted By: Formermac
Trump won the presidency didn't he?


I just love it when I give you enough time and you figure it out on your own!!

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#1515644 --- 06/14/18 03:29 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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HA!!! love it when you've deemed yourself the winner of this debate, Trump won the presidency but therein lies the entire 16 month investigation son, what is Trump hiding when all he has to do is answer the question asked him by Meuller, thus back to square one, a presidential race lost by 3 million votes and the possibility that the Russians altered the outcome. Now do you comprehend? With this full fledged trend ongoing, we may go into the midterms with the proverbial question on the minds of smart voters. Now who the smarter one here, trump or the voters? Apparently the voters who did not vote for trump.You do know that Trump is being investigated, right?
Comprehension seems to be YOUR weakness not mines. whistle


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#1515645 --- 06/14/18 03:56 PM Re: More winning... [Re: luckyduck]
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics/donald-trump-salute-north-korea/index.html


https://www.npr.org/2018/06/14/619934982/as-the-scandals-mount-conservatives-turn-on-scott-pruitt

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html



Based on the last year and a half, there seems to a total disconnect in terms of protocol, ethics, right & wrong or are we entering into era of misfits supporting a orange color misfit intent of making this the new norm?

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