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#1514447 --- 05/02/18 10:25 AM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: scwoodchuck]
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All I said was that I don't think the day care will open in the old Bonadent building. It doesn't make any sense as an employee benefit to del Lago.

You are over reacting and I wonder why.

Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
You are just an agitator, trying to find fault with everything. You don't have any viable solutions or ideas. You just bitch about everything and refuse to admit when you're wrong. The County government actually does pretty good when all is said and done. Things would run a lot smoother without the Democratic obstructionist though.

Definition of obstructionism
: deliberate interference with the progress or business especially of a legislative body
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#1514453 --- 05/02/18 03:01 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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It may seem like I'M over reacting because you have greatly exaggerated every bit of the misinformation you have posted.


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#1514455 --- 05/02/18 08:07 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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Why don't you tell us of a more suitable location that offers the same amenities that this project offers.
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#1514456 --- 05/02/18 09:36 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Good grief.

Let me know when ANY DAY CARE OPENS IN THE BONADENT BUILDING.

I don't care WHO opens it.

Give it a rest.
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#1514461 --- 05/03/18 06:54 AM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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You started this thread trying to cause trouble for the county manager and some board members. You can't even present a reasonable argument without trying to distort the facts. You are an agitator and a obstructionist probably associated with a certain Democrat who is the same.
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#1514465 --- 05/03/18 08:41 AM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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Jesus, the drama in Seneca County never ends.

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#1514484 --- 05/03/18 09:48 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: Kells]
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When I posted the original information about the use of the del Lago money to remodel the County Office Building (IMHO unnecessarily in many cases) instead of enhancing services around the County or expanding programs or reducing taxes.

For example, the only Senior Services held in the South County is a coffee hour Wednesday 8-9 am. Transport to the activities and meals at the Bonadent Building is only available to "North County" residents. Farmer's Markets are in Seneca Falls only. Additional support could be provided to libraries and historical societies. More services could be provided to veterans.

I had expected suggestions to share the money with the Towns and Villages.

Instead, this has become a defense of the purchase of the Bonadent Building, including the opening of a (imaginary -to date) - day care. This has nothing to do with my original post. I fell into the trap and I will not continue.

I guess the Seneca county viewers oppose using the del Lago money to expand services, support the towns and villages, and build a reserve for a rainy day. Instead spend it on paint, wallpaper and new electronics for the BOS meeting room which is used 2 days a month.

I am not going to respond to any posts that do not provide thoughtful ideas and suggestions.

Originally Posted By: Kells
Jesus, the drama in Seneca County never ends.
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#1514490 --- 05/04/18 06:08 AM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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It would seem that you think you are the only one entitled to an opinion. When you get to be a successful business person let us know, maybe your opinions would mean something. Sharing the money with towns and villages or giving money to libraries and then raising county taxes to cover improvement projects doesn't make sense. Most communities have a library tax. Waterloo's library has its own tax, gets village, town and county tax money. Libraries also get grant money and donations and they always cry poverty. Instead of doing fund raisers and applying for grants they just ask governments for money and then criticize politicians when they feel it's not enough. When have you ever seen a library in Seneca County make their financial records public ? Other communities elect library boards,I have never seen an election for a library board in Seneca County.


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#1514495 --- 05/04/18 09:41 AM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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Lady, did you just crawl out from under a rock ? It seems that you have no idea of what kind of services are available for the south end of Seneca County. We have RTS busses running all over the county with nobody on them. You want a farmer's market organize one, Waterloo and Seneca Falls have them because community members organize them. How much farm produce do you think you would sell in a neighborhood full of farms ? You seem to just want more and more with no specifics.
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#1514553 --- 05/06/18 03:40 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Hey Gov, today's paper. " Waterloo Rotary Club is sponsoring a farmer's market on Vern's Way in Waterloo". all seeing eye will probably complain because it's not in Ovid. crazy


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#1514556 --- 05/06/18 05:40 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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Can you explain the "rainy day" line item you expect to have and how big you want that to be? Of course, you understand municipalities can't set money aside for no apparent reason then charge the taxpayers new taxes the following year without using the surplus first. Of course, you know that. Right?

Maybe we should set aside a rainy day fund from the taxes paid by the winery owners in Seneca County. It could be a big help for any budget problems Junius could be facing. This is sarcasm....

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#1514558 --- 05/06/18 06:15 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: Top Dog]
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Municipalities Have to earmark funds that are saved, set forth for special projects or purchases not completely funded in one years budget

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#1514561 --- 05/06/18 08:08 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: Gdog]
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The people in the south end think they can make their own rules and have no understanding of the state and federal regulations they have to abide by. Kinda like the Varick town court. grin


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#1514570 --- 05/07/18 11:15 AM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: Top Dog]
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Adopted budgets should not show deficits or surpluses, since adopted budgets must be balanced. Sometimes an operating deficit is planned when an existing fund balance is used as a one-time funding source for the budget.

Most local governments maintain fund balances, money that is unused by the government from year to year. Some of these fund balances are kept in reserves for specified purposes, and may only be legally used for such purposes.

These reserves may be used to pay for items that need to be purchased
for long-term use or are one time in nature (for example, the purchase of land for a new county jail or the acquisition of a snow
plow). Reserves may also be set aside for the repair of equipment
or facilities, or for other purposes allowed by law.

Local governments usually also have unreserved fund balances. These balances are used to smooth out short-term variations in actual revenues and expenditures, protect against risks and other potential
budget shortfalls, and assure a consistent cash flow for the local government so it can pay its bills.

These fund balances may not always be shown in the budget document, but it is important to find out about them and their size relative to the budget as a whole.

OSC encourages and State law allows local governments to keep a reasonable fund balance. The Government Finance Officers Association recommends that municipalities maintain an unreserved fund balance equal to at least two months of annual total expenditures as insurance against unanticipated expenditures or revenue shortfalls.
Citizen's Guide to Local Budgets


Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Can you explain the "rainy day" line item you expect to have and how big you want that to be? Of course, you understand municipalities can't set money aside for no apparent reason then charge the taxpayers new taxes the following year without using the surplus first. Of course, you know that. Right?

Maybe we should set aside a rainy day fund from the taxes paid by the winery owners in Seneca County. It could be a big help for any budget problems Junius could be facing. This is sarcasm....
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#1514573 --- 05/07/18 12:26 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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Keep going that's only part of it.
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#1514577 --- 05/07/18 04:48 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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Here's a simple solution of what to do with the casino money: CUT TAXES FOR EVERYONE ELSE!!

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#1514578 --- 05/07/18 07:36 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: LittleKing]
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Originally Posted By: LittleKing
Here's a simple solution of what to do with the casino money: CUT TAXES FOR EVERYONE ELSE!!


Lets not follow the path set by Seneca Falls and use an unstable entity to make long term plans.... We see how well that went with almost triple digit increases to taxes.

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#1514580 --- 05/07/18 09:20 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Originally Posted By: LittleKing
Here's a simple solution of what to do with the casino money: CUT TAXES FOR EVERYONE ELSE!!


Lets not follow the path set by Seneca Falls and use an unstable entity to make long term plans.... We see how well that went with almost triple digit increases to taxes.


SF also increased services, most notably expansion of the police force, and capitol spending (the new town mahal). That's the big reason they got in trouble when the dump money stopped flowing.

If the County uses the casino money to fund existing needs, rather than coming up with new programs and new construction projects, they could offset (cut) property taxes.

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#1514582 --- 05/07/18 10:30 PM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: all seeing eye]
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"Reasonable" fund balance.

Given that we just bought Bonadent, I think we already have that. If you think you can hold on to cash while you still tax me....I'm guessing you actually are a local politician.

If you need that statement to transcend time, change Bonadent to new County Office Building or jail. Name the big things like the casino that came along to pay for those capital projects. Keep in mind Petro took the County out of the red. .

While your at it, think about why you ignore water and sewer throughout the county. Have your little fued while your constituents suffer. Keep your little rainy day fund while downtown Ovid burns to the ground and you collect county taxes from it's residents to add to your savings account.

Whoops. Wasn't supposed to hit you with an actual concern of your constituency.

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#1514780 --- 05/16/18 11:28 AM Re: How the County Board of Supervisors is Spending the "Del Lago" Money [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Libraries are a public service and deserve to be publicly funded.

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