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#1514400 --- 04/28/18 05:37 PM F A Church
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F A Church hardware is in the process of closing

they should consider building a wall down the middle of the store

rent out one side of the space to help pay for their costs

they could use the other half for a 'smaller' hardware store in order to stay open
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#1514405 --- 04/29/18 09:04 AM Re: F A Church [Re: bluezone]
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This and I see Miller's up the road is for sale. That leaves Valu as the last "hardware" store around here unless you head down to Penn Yan. With places like Walmart, Lowes, even Tractor Supply providing a lot of what Church's does I'm glad they lasted this long. Best of luck to them.

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#1514407 --- 04/29/18 04:12 PM Re: F A Church [Re: bluezone]
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How does a smaller store with fewer offerings help profits? The two employees are working 60 hours a week, and it can't be run by a single person. Not to mention the capital costs of conversion, along with basement access. And who would want to rent 1/2 a store? Al's Inn is for sale with no takers, so it doesn't look like downtown store frontage is a hot commodity. I'm grateful for the run they had,

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#1514424 --- 04/30/18 04:15 PM Re: F A Church [Re: Tacitus]
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Gee, I just thought they were retiring and nobody wants to take over.
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#1514428 --- 04/30/18 04:56 PM Re: F A Church [Re: bluezone]
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That would be a reasonable assumption, but no. Between Lowes and Amazon (and I'm guilty of using both) sales were down considerably.

My impression of Valu Hardware is that they only carry the low end of most product lines (power tools and paint, for example).

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#1514785 --- 05/16/18 12:18 PM Re: F A Church [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
How does a smaller store with fewer offerings help profits?


they can focus on the items that they sell the most

the added rent from the other half could help pay the operating costs
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#1514800 --- 05/17/18 04:58 AM Re: F A Church [Re: bluezone]
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I think the problem was that they didn't have the huge array of items at a big box store: lighting, plants, flooring, cabinets, etc., and even if they somehow offered to offer some of them, they'd never have prices as low. The construction work to create two entrances that meet code for store space no one seems to want is problematic.

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#1514809 --- 05/17/18 10:19 AM Re: F A Church [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
The construction work to create two entrances that meet code for store space no one seems to want is problematic.


Use the same front entrance just create two doors inside that front door

Or one space would use the current front door and the other space could use the back door
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#1516028 --- 06/24/18 01:52 PM Re: F A Church [Re: bluezone]
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I used to go to F.A. Church but got tired of the old man constantly running his mouth bad mouthing everyone. The guy once put benches out in front of the store then he would call the police when people sat on the benches.

I find Valu Home a bit more affordable and it's like a hardware convenience store. Much better customer service than Lowe's.
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#1516029 --- 06/24/18 01:54 PM Re: F A Church [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone


Use the same front entrance just create two doors inside that front door

Or one space would use the current front door and the other space could use the back door


I don't think there is a whole heck of a lot of businesses looking at downtown.
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#1516505 --- 07/08/18 07:33 PM Re: F A Church [Re: The Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
I find Valu Home a bit more affordable and it's like a hardware convenience store. Much better customer service than Lowe's.


the owner of H.E.P.S has purchased millers feed store

it will be remodeled and turned into more of a hardware store

the younger vinny from FA church will be working there - has considerable amount knowledge for the products
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#1516507 --- 07/08/18 07:45 PM Re: F A Church [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
Al's Inn is for sale with no takers, so it doesn't look like downtown store frontage is a hot commodity.


combine both FA church and Al's and put a grocery store (fresh products) there?

the city is looking for ways to offer fresh food near that area to eliminate the food desert
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#1516561 --- 07/09/18 04:50 PM Re: F A Church [Re: bluezone]
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Isn't this scenario what killed F.A. Church? They'd have to charge so much more compared to Wegman's & Tops (= Lowes) that no one would shop there. OR they'd be accused of taking advantage of poor people with limited access while trying to make a (gasp) profit.

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#1517272 --- 07/20/18 12:18 AM Re: F A Church [Re: Tacitus]
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(local newspaper)

F.A. Church online auction

run by hessney auction (www.hessney.com) phone 315-789-9349

bidding open now

preview monday july 23 from 4pm to 6 pm and tuesday july 24 from 10 am to noon

bidding ends july 25 at 4pm

tools
paint
hardware
housewares
land and garden
ladders
fixtures
shelving
showcases
...
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