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#1506966 --- 10/22/17 07:10 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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Not as bad as you! You didn't wake up for a couple of days! You must of got hold of some strong ripple or Wild Irish Rose! LOL!

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#1506968 --- 10/22/17 07:12 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not as bad as you! You didn't wake up for a couple of days! You must of got hold of some strong ripple or Wild Irish Rose! LOL!
Another LOL. Now I am sure of it.

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#1506980 --- 10/22/17 07:22 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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Which brand is your choice? LOL!

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#1506982 --- 10/22/17 07:26 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: Teonan]
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Well, it's official... the FL1 Forums have now become gassy's own personal masturbatory vomitorium. frown
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#1507543 --- 10/30/17 01:52 AM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: Timbo]
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This thread is entitled "the mood is ugly". That is certainly the mood in political circles these days.

From Fox news:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/...his-throat.html

John Boehner unleashed: Ex-House speaker curses at lawmakers, says congressman once held a knife to his throat

Former House Speaker John Boehner, who retired in October 2015, is no longer holding back his anger against several of his former colleagues in Congress.

The Ohio Republican talked to Politico Magazine in a lengthy profile Sunday about the widening political divide in America. But he saved his harshest words for conservatives who worked alongside him. Among them: Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., who became the chairman of the House Oversight Committee after Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, announced his resignation from Congress, and Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, who helped found the House’s Freedom Caucus, which frequently clashed with Boehner.

“Gowdy — that’s my guy, even though he doesn’t know how to dress,” Boehner said. “F--- Jordan. F--- [Jason] Chaffetz. They’re both a--holes.”

Boehner called Chaffetz a “total phony” who was more obsessed with self-promotion than the American people. Chaffetz resigned from Congress in June and joined Fox News as a contributor. He didn't immediately respond.

“Jordan was a terrorist as a legislator going back to his days in the Ohio House and Senate,” Boehner added to Politico. “A terrorist. A legislative terrorist.”

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#1507613 --- 10/30/17 08:41 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! More garbage Kyle!

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#1507665 --- 10/31/17 12:07 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! More garbage Kyle!
I like how you keep reading the stuff I print. You then call it garbage but have noting to rebut it. grin

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#1507666 --- 10/31/17 12:08 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_poli...s_far_from_over

WASHINGTON — The indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and campaign aide Rick Gates coupled with the surprise unsealed guilty plea by former campaign adviser George Papadopoulos made three things clear: special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation is far from over.

Its breadth is expansive, and he already has plenty of detailed evidence on his targets — even those who have not yet been charged. The court documents released yesterday by Mueller’s office don’t reveal all of the information investigators have collected.

But those who could be in the investigation’s crosshairs as witnesses or potential defendants — including former national security adviser Michael Flynn, White House senior adviser Jared Kushner and President Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr. — know now that Mueller is willing to bring down the hammer on campaign officials who don’t cooperate.

“There are a whole lot of things on the table that are chargeable, and that is part the negotiation process,” said Katy Harriger, a Wake Forest University professor and author of “The Special Prosecutor in American Politics.”

That is clear from the 12-count indictment of Manafort and Gates, who face up to 15 and 12 years in prison respectively for charges including money laundering, failing to register as an agent of a foreign government, conspiracy and lying to federal officials.

Nothing in the Manafort and Gates charges is connected to Trump’s campaign, and the allegations are just that — they both enjoy the presumption of innocence. But the Papadopoulos case is a different story — even for Manafort.

“The real story is the Papadopoulos plea, because that moves this much closer to the campaign, and he’s pleading guilty in exchange for something,” said University of Texas School of Law professor Stephen Vladeck.

It’s clear from the plea agreement that Papadopoulos is a cooperating witness, showing Mueller is willing to apply pressure where needed to advance the probe.

Papadopoulos admitted to emailing a “High-Ranking Campaign Official” about Moscow’s interest in setting up meetings with the campaign. He also provided an email from the campaign official that stated: “We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal.”

NBC News reported last night that official was Manafort.

It also shows that Mueller only reveals what he wants the public and those charged to know, and only on his own timeline. That should put Flynn, or everyone else involved, on notice.

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#1507667 --- 10/31/17 12:14 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
This thread is entitled "the mood is ugly". That is certainly the mood in political circles these days.
From Fox news:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/...his-throat.html

John Boehner unleashed: Ex-House speaker curses at lawmakers, says congressman once held a knife to his throat

Former House Speaker John Boehner, who retired in October 2015, is no longer holding back his anger against several of his former colleagues in Congress.

The Ohio Republican talked to Politico Magazine in a lengthy profile Sunday about the widening political divide in America. But he saved his harshest words for conservatives who worked alongside him. Among them: Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., who became the chairman of the House Oversight Committee after Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, announced his resignation from Congress, and Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, who helped found the House’s Freedom Caucus, which frequently clashed with Boehner.

“Gowdy — that’s my guy, even though he doesn’t know how to dress,” Boehner said. “F--- Jordan. F--- [Jason] Chaffetz. They’re both a--holes.”

Boehner called Chaffetz a “total phony” who was more obsessed with self-promotion than the American people. Chaffetz resigned from Congress in June and joined Fox News as a contributor. He didn't immediately respond.

“Jordan was a terrorist as a legislator going back to his days in the Ohio House and Senate,” Boehner added to Politico. “A terrorist. A legislative terrorist.”
Gassy says this post is garbage. Is he calling Fox News garbage or John Boehner a liar?

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#1507668 --- 10/31/17 01:04 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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I was just watching CNN. They were showing a clip from last night on FOX news where John Kelly was being interviewed. (In my words as I remember it)

FOX: Is Mueller's investigation aggravating to Trump?

Kelly: Of course. It would be aggravating to anyone being investigated.

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CNN comment: Did Kelly just say that Trump knows he is being investigated?

Other CNN comment: It would be hard to investigate Trump's campaign without Trump being investigated as part of it.

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#1507673 --- 10/31/17 02:07 PM Re: big nothing burger [Re: gassy one]
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NY Post: So, The Big Fish The FBI Caught In This Russian Collusion Probe Is....An Unpaid Intern?
Matt Vespa

You can read Guy’s take here, but Paul Manafort and his business associate, Rick Gates, probably had the worst Monday you can imagine: being indicted by the FBI. Yet, this isn’t related to the Trump collusion hysteria that’s been festering within Democratic circles that are desperate to find a smoking gun linking the Trump White House to the Russians. With multiple investigations ongoing for months, we still have zero evidence that proves the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. But wait—what about this George Papadopoulos fella? Didn’t he do all this stuff supposedly with the Russians? Oh, and he’s been charged with lying to the FBI. He’s a cooperating witness, which had some wondering whether the next event will be some sort of solid evidence that Trump and the Russians formed this unholy alliance that has so permeated liberal media outlets. Well, as it turns out, the dude was a low-level, unpaid intern who was probably boasting of such ties to impress the higher-ups in the Trump campaign (via NY Post):

In the 14-page document, Robert Mueller’s prosecutors maintain that Papadopoulos, a twentysomething think-tank nerd who jumped ship from the Ben Carson campaign, met with individuals posing as Russian officials who promised dirt on Hillary Clinton.
There was nothing illegal about what Papadopoulos did. The only crime alleged in the indictment is that he lied to federal agents when they asked him about the contacts last January.
It is fairly plain from the indictment that the young campaign volunteer was trying to impress higher-ups in the campaign, perhaps with a White House assignment in mind, but was played for a sucker by con artists who approached him masquerading as Russian honchos tied to Vladimir Putin. (The contact portrayed as “Putin’s niece,” for example, turned out to be nothing of the kind.)
The initial Russia offer by Papadopoulos went nowhere, as other members of the foreign policy team rejected the suggestion, according to a Washington Post story published in August (yes, this is old news, new media huffing-and-puffing notwithstanding). But Papadopoulos persisted, e-mailing then-campaign manager Lewandowski in April 2016 that “Putin wants to host the Trump team when the time is right.”
The Washington Post further reported that Papadopoulos also forwarded campaign officials an e-mail from a senior official in the Russian International Affairs Council about coordinating a Trump visit to Moscow. But once again, senior campaign officials rejected the suggestion. Proposed trips to Moscow “did not take place,” the indictment confirms.
All this information was contained in internal e-mails the FBI obtained and started reviewing last year, indicating investigators have had possession of the private communications of top officials serving in the Trump campaign for several months. And yet the best case of criminal wrongdoing they can come up with is inconsistent statements by a no-doubt very nervous young campaign volunteer?
At the same time, Paul Sperry, who wrote the article, also said whatever crimes are unearthed during Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation are worth prosecuting, especially tax fraud and money laundering, but added that we’re still in neutral on this whole issue. By the way, the Manafort indictment was based on his alleged illegal activities between 2006-2014, long before the 2016 election in which Hillary Clinton took her place next to Ross Perot, Adlai Stevenson, and Thomas Dewey in the two-time presidential loser club. So, there you have it—one of the biggest talked about news items so far with this Russia story is that the FBI caught a campaign volunteer who lied to them.
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#1507674 --- 10/31/17 02:14 PM Re: big nothing burger [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
So, there you have it—one of the biggest talked about news items so far with this Russia story is that the FBI caught a campaign volunteer who lied to them.
You have no clue how this works do you? You should listen to CNN more. You start with the smallest fish and work your way up hoping that some bigger fish will get nervous and flip. Mueller is just getting started. No one in the White House knows who they can trust now or who is wearing a wire.

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#1507675 --- 10/31/17 02:15 PM Re: big nothing burger [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-apos-approval-rating-012953119.html

Donald Trump’s job approval rating has sunk to even deeper depths in the latest Gallup poll.

Gallup’s tracking poll, based on a three-day rolling average ending Sunday, put Trump’s average approval rating at 33 percent, the lowest of his presidency, with 62 percent disapproving of the job he’s doing — a new high.

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#1507676 --- 10/31/17 02:19 PM Re: big nothing burger [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/robert-mueller-most-powerful-man-in-washington/index.html

Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller's one-two punch on Monday sent a forceful message to President Donald Trump, the public and potential suspects about the case he is constructing of Trump associates' involvement with Russia during the 2016 campaign.

Mueller showed he can keep a secret and maximize the impact of what he makes public.

In the first major filings of his investigation into the Russian effort to influence the election, Mueller revealed how broadly he has taken his mandate, the kinds of records he has uncovered, and how he has leveraged at least one insider to cooperate.

"There's a 'large scale ongoing investigation of which this case is a small part,'" Aaron Zelinsky of the special counsel's office said during Papadopoulos' sentencing hearing earlier this month, according to a transcript unsealed Monday.

Mueller's team appears to be making its case to the public, too. In the documents released Monday, evidence is laid out in attention-getting detail, with tantalizing quotes ("Great work," a campaign supervisor tells Papadopoulos).
The documents point up the fact that the Trump campaign was aware early in 2016 of offers of "thousands" of potentially damaging emails about Democrat Hillary Clinton.
There is an implicit warning to potential additional defendants about trying to hide evidence and a "we've got more" suggestion throughout. The Papadopoulos statement opened with the observation that it does not "constitute all the facts known" and then referred to conversations he had with multiple high-ranking (unnamed at this point) campaign officials.

The timing of the rollout may also have thrown the White House. Manafort was pictured walking into FBI offices in Washington as he and Gates were indicted. The President barely had had time to assert on Twitter that the indictment of Manafort and Gates was unrelated to his campaign when the Papadopoulos news went public.
The guilty plea details how the 30-year-old former campaign foreign policy adviser lied to federal investigators about his interactions with foreign officials close to the Russian government. Papadopoulos falsely described the facts surrounding interactions with a foreign contact regarding possible "dirt" on Clinton, Republican Trump's opponent in the race for the White House.


Mueller, a former FBI director first appointed by Republican President George W. Bush in 2001 and continued under Democratic President Barack Obama, was named the Russia special counsel on May 17. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has recused himself from Russia-related matters, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein made the appointment after Trump fired then-FBI director James Comey, who previously oversaw the Russia investigation.

As laid out by Rosenstein, Mueller is investigating any links or coordination between the Russian government and the Trump campaign as well as "any matters that arose or may arise directly" from the investigation and any attempts to interfere with it, such as perjury, obstruction of justice and the destruction of evidence.
The indictment of Manafort and Gates shows that Mueller is going back more than a decade to potential wrongdoing unrelated to the election but connected to Russia. The 31-page, 12-count indictment relates to their political consulting on behalf of Russian-backed officials in Ukraine. It asserts conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, and failure to register as an agent of a foreign principal, among other charges.
The indictment alleges lavish spending from the offshore accounts, including to pay for mortgages, children's tuition and home decorating. It also documents some of the evidence retrieved from Manafort's Virginia home when federal agents made a pre-dawn raid.
Manafort and Gates have pleaded not guilty to the charges.
Papadopoulos, on the other hand, entered a guilty plea after federal officials caught him lying about his interactions with a "foreign contact who discussed 'dirt' related to emails concerning" Clinton.

The plea statement lists Papadopoulos' initial falsehoods and his efforts to cover his tracks once the FBI questioned him. He shut down his Facebook account the day after an interview. It had contained information about his communications with Russian nationals. He also stopped using his usual cell phone number and got a new one.
It turned out Papadopoulos had multiple email exchanges in an effort to arrange a meeting between Trump campaign operatives and Russians. "It's history making if it happens," Papadopoulos wrote enthusiastically in one email.
The 13-page plea document unsealed on Monday highlights Papadopoulos' connection to the Trump campaign, noting at one point that the campaign told The Washington Post in March 2016 that Papadopoulos was one of five named foreign policy advisers.
A month later, he met with a contact identified as "the professor" for breakfast at a London hotel. The professor had just returned from Moscow, where he apparently met with high-level Russian officals and learned that they had "dirt" on Clinton. Papadopoulos initially tried to claim that the interactions with "the professor" occurred before he was on the Trump campaign.

In a town where everything leaks, Mueller was also able to keep Papadopoulos' cooperation and plea deal under wraps.
Papadopoulos was arrested on July 27 at Dulles International Airport. Mueller noted that Papadopoulos then met with the government "on numerous occasions." He was arraigned and pleaded guilty in federal court October 5, a fact only unsealed Monday.
The secrecy is a testament to the control Mueller has retained over the unfolding story -- and a warning to anyone who thinks he or she is safe.
The extent of what Papadopoulos revealed may become evident in upcoming weeks, and Mueller's team argued as part of a motion to seal his case that his "arrest and the accompanying criminal charges may alert other subjects to the direction and status of the investigation."
The document released Monday already reveals many possible lines of inquiry. Responding to an email related to Russian efforts to meet with Trump himself, a campaign official says, "Let[']s discuss. We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send a signal."
That ambiguous statement about not sending "a signal" is revealed in a footnote; it feels more like a cliffhanger.

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#1507677 --- 10/31/17 02:32 PM Re: Democrats nervous [Re: cwjga]
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Leon Panetta: Mueller is Probably Going to Indict More People...Democrats Included
Katie Pavlich

On Monday morning, Special Counsel Robert Mueller officially issued the first charges in his ongoing investigation into the 2016 presidential election. Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and his longtime business partner Rick Gates were charged with 12 felonies ranging from lying to federal agents, tax fraud and money laundering.

But Mueller's probe isn't simply about Republicans.

During an interview with CNN Monday night, former CIA Director Leon Panetta said Mueller is just getting started and that Democrats should also be nervous.


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Yesterday Tony Podesta, brother of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, resigned from his prestigious Washington D.C. lobbying firm. The move came after NBC News revealed Podesta is under investigation by Mueller for failing to register as a foreign agent, the same crime Manafort stands accused of and one of many he was indicted for.

Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group are now the subjects of a federal investigation being led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, three sources with knowledge of the matter told NBC News.

The probe of Podesta and his Democratic-leaning lobbying firm grew out of Mueller's inquiry into the finances of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to the sources. As special counsel, Mueller has been tasked with investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Manafort had organized a public relations campaign for a non-profit called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine (ECMU). Podesta's company was one of many firms that worked on the campaign, which promoted Ukraine's image in the West.

The sources said the investigation into Podesta and his company began as more of a fact-finding mission about the ECMU and Manafort's role in the campaign, but has now morphed into a criminal inquiry into whether the firm violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act, known as FARA.
Buckle up.
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#1507678 --- 10/31/17 02:33 PM Re: Democrats nervous [Re: cwjga]
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Reminder: Tony Podesta Had Uranium One as a Client
Katie Pavlich

As Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the 2016 presidential election heats up, with his authority spanning well beyond campaign borders, lobbyist Tony Podesta has come under investigation.

According to NBC News Mueller is looking at Podesta, brother of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, for failing to register as a foreign agent. He resigned Monday from his position at Podesta Group, a swanky lobbying firm in Washington D.C., just hours after indictments came down for businessman Paul Manafort.

Naturally, Mueller will be looking at Podesta's high paying clients as part of his criminal probe. Who exactly were Podesta's clients at Podesta Group? Uranium One is on the list.

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Was Podesta working for on the Uranium One project while failing to register as a foreign agent? And did he get the job because of his ties to the Clintons and more specifically, thanks to Hillary Clinton's role at the State Department?

As a reminder, Russian nuclear officials directed by President Vladimir Putin engaged in bribery and kick backs to gain 20 percent control of U.S. uranium supply back in 2010. This scheme was otherwise known as Uranium One, due to the connection to a Canadian energy company, which was approved by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton along with other U.S. government officials. After the deal went through, former President Bill Clinton was paid millions of dollars to give speeches in Russia and the Clinton Foundation saw a $145 million influx.

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.
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#1507679 --- 10/31/17 02:37 PM GET TRUMP TOO! [Re: cwjga]
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Leon Panetta: Mueller is Probably Going to Indict More People...Democrats Included
Katie Pavlich
Thats ok. Get them all regardless of party. But the Trump campaign looked so crooked from the start that I got to believe the vast majority of those indicted by Mueller will be Republicans.


Edited by kyle585 (10/31/17 02:41 PM)

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#1507680 --- 10/31/17 02:44 PM Re: GET TRUMP TOO! [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pro...n-probe-n816056

Oct 31 2017, 2:17 pm ET
Prosecutors Say George Papadopoulos Plea a ‘Small Part’ of Mueller Russian Probe

by Tracy Connor and Tom Winter

The criminal case against former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos is just a "small part" of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, prosecutors said earlier this month.

The intriguing comment came during Papadopoulos' secret plea hearing on Oct. 5 during a discussion of the need for records to be kept under wraps until the probe is completed.

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#1507681 --- 10/31/17 02:47 PM Re: GET TRUMP TOO! [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-mueller-russia-investigation-whats-next/

The charges announced Monday in the special counsel investigation into Russian meddling in the U.S. election signal an aggressive probe -- a double-barreled punch that veteran prosecutors say is just the beginning, CBS News' chief legal correspondent Jan Crawford reports.

Taken together, lawyers say the indictment of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, and the plea deal with George Papadopoulos, have a common purpose beyond the underlying crimes: to shake some trees and get witnesses to cooperate with the broader investigation.

Papadopoulos met with government lawyers and started cooperating after his arrest in July. Manafort and Gates, so far, have not.

But now, the threat of prosecution and jail time -- or even additional charges against them -- could cause them to flip if they have information that special counsel Robert Mueller would be interested in.

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#1507684 --- 10/31/17 02:55 PM Re: GET TRUMP TOO! [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tr...e-idUSKBN1D000H

Frank Montoya, a former senior FBI agent, said Manafort’s indictment and Papadopoulos’ plea indicated Mueller was not going to bow to White House pressure and would keep pushing hard to uncover wrongdoing.

”It is pretty much a road map – we are going to be looking at the money laundering, we are going to be looking at the failure to report income, we are going to be looking at the general criminal conspiracies. This is also about Trump’s red line – we are going to cross it. And we are going to keep looking at the so-called collusion, or the coordination with the Russians to undermine democracy,” Montoya said.

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