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#1514115 --- 04/12/18 12:26 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Formermac]
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You leave out on time performance and cost over-runs grin


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#1514116 --- 04/12/18 12:32 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: scwoodchuck]
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I'm the one laughing, you being a "engineer cleanup man, waits on the PC for futile debates because you're doing what as of now? I'm nursing an age old broken femur. If you're so busy, why are you looking for an argument Sir? The people of Geneva, in particular, the city planning board could use your expertise, as for me, 37 years with LeChase and 8 on my own, I see no need to prove myself but my Son and Nephew are more suited to debate with you if they can find that time you seem to have so much of.

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#1514124 --- 04/12/18 02:51 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Are we bored to the extent that you wish to engage an "outsider" to this 3 week old discussion between the two of us?


you are unfamiliar with the topic yet you still have time to engage in it...oooooddddd


Originally Posted By: Formermac
I went to school for engineering and obtained two degrees, one in electrical and the second in structural,


and yet you want to tear down a structure that is sound and that only needs one side wall, a rear wall and the roof to make the building functional

...yawn
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#1514126 --- 04/12/18 03:04 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
I'm the one laughing, you being a "engineer cleanup man, waits on the PC for futile debates because you're doing what as of now? I'm nursing an age old broken femur. If you're so busy, why are you looking for an argument Sir? The people of Geneva, in particular, the city planning board could use your expertise, as for me, 37 years with LeChase and 8 on my own, I see no need to prove myself but my Son and Nephew are more suited to debate with you if they can find that time you seem to have so much of.
It's a well known fact that I am 97 and in a nursing home, you are just entertainment.
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#1514135 --- 04/13/18 06:55 AM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Many years ago, I would debate but age and maturity dictates a non issue on my part. I can care more or less about your personal opinion because my job requirement called for expertise and efficiency, both which were accomplished according to customer's request, bottom line? Your opinion versus fact and customer satisfaction. Too many ladders, scaffolding, ditches, bucket trucks etc. to make this a debate. whistle
Not the sort of tools you would expect an ENGINEER to be using, just sayin, grin But go ahead exaggerate !


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#1514139 --- 04/13/18 10:24 AM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
I'm the one laughing,


The people of Geneva, in particular, the city planning board could use your expertise, as for me, 37 years with LeChase and 8 on my own, I see no need to prove myself


city planning board?

you may want to check your facts

the current situtation is in the hands of the city building code office

but of course with all your expertise and 45 years of knowledge or rather ('no'ledge) you should have known that

yawn...
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#1514145 --- 04/13/18 04:03 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: bluezone]
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LOL, I can now understand why Geneva has the growing pains that it does. Take a few minutes to comprehend your individual adolescent statements, comprehend the fact that a few adults took a thread wwwaayyyy off topic to satisfy the graving of a petulant child. yes, I took a second look at my portfolio, still in great standing with the State, LeChase and the many wonderful past customers, of course, I've already known that I do good work but please forgive my moment of childish indiscretions to toy with a few emotions I've evoked. grin

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#1514146 --- 04/13/18 08:55 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Formermac]
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SAYS YOU sleep
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#1514147 --- 04/14/18 05:43 AM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
comprehend the fact that a few adults took a thread wwwaayyyy off topic to satisfy the graving of a petulant child.


it is you that took the thread off topic

framing a side wall, back wall and a simple roof to save the structure should be a simple thought process
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#1515293 --- 06/05/18 01:34 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
I'm the one laughing,


The people of Geneva, in particular, the city planning board could use your expertise, as for me, 37 years with LeChase and 8 on my own, I see no need to prove myself


the local newspaper reports that the building will be repaired and not torn down as you stated it should

yawn...
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#1515306 --- 06/05/18 04:52 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: bluezone]
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Oh, for crying out loud - it' a crumbling piece of crap. Tear it down and put in a Popeye's Chicken, or anything else that will pay taxes, but we could use a really good chicken place.

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#1515325 --- 06/06/18 12:20 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
put in a Popeye's Chicken, or anything else that will pay taxes, but we could use a really good chicken place.


once the roof and side walls are repaired it will be useable for your idea wink
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#1515326 --- 06/06/18 12:40 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: bluezone]
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There's already an excellent chicken restaurant on Linden Street.

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#1515335 --- 06/06/18 07:30 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
put in a Popeye's Chicken,

We Need a Popeye's so I don't have to drive over 40 miles for it.

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#1515355 --- 06/08/18 06:02 AM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
it' a crumbling piece of crap. Tear it down and put

or anything else that will pay taxes


if it were torn down a new strucuture may not have been able to be built under current code

with a portion of the structure still intact it would be 'grandfathered' under the code

if it were torn down there would be little taxes gained from the property
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#1515365 --- 06/08/18 10:56 AM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: bluezone]
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When the dust settles on this issue it will be taken down to make a better exit for the parking lot out back. Actually I think that was the plan all along, they're just taking the politically correct method of removing a building downtown. wink


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#1515387 --- 06/08/18 04:02 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: bluezone]
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It is NOT grandfathered in - major renovations require full adherence to current code.

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#1515434 --- 06/10/18 07:33 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
It is NOT grandfathered in - major renovations require full adherence to current code.


if the entire structure was removed down to the ground a new structure may not have been able to built at all under current codes

with a portion of the building remaining the new codes apply to the new repairs
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#1516013 --- 06/23/18 03:20 PM Re: 29 Linden - SAVE IT [Re: bluezone]
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I hate to see old buildings like that torn down. Unfortunately it may be to far gone. I love what they have done with Linden Street. I love the whole concept.


Edited by The Mechanic (06/23/18 03:27 PM)
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