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#1513077 --- 02/05/18 07:48 PM Re: Trump Effect-Dow Plunges! [Re: Timbo]
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Trump took credit for the increases in the DOW, I guess that he owns the huge slide not to mention the losses many investors are experiencing.


http://www.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3021-losenyse-loser.html

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#1513078 --- 02/06/18 06:42 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: cwjga]
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#1513079 --- 02/06/18 07:01 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! Or Dem's losing [Re: kyle585]
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Democrats (Not Intentionally) for Trump and the GOP
Bernard Goldberg

If history is any indication, Republicans could be in for a nasty November. The party of first-term presidents almost always loses House seats in the midterm elections -- and having an especially controversial and polarizing president in the White House probably won't help Republicans.

But the GOP just might have a secret weapon working in its favor this time around. Yes, a booming economy, but that's not the ace in the hole.



I'm guessing Donald Trump and the Republican Party colluded with whoever called the camera shots during the president's State of the Union address.

There she was, Nancy Pelosi, dressed in black and looking miserable, as if she were attending a funeral. OK, no one expected her to jump up and applaud for a president she detests, but she couldn't even muster a few fake hand claps when he said it was a good thing that American workers are getting bonuses thanks to the new tax law (which, of course, she and her party had absolutely nothing to do with).

But then why should she applaud? This is the same Nancy Pelosi -- one of the richest members of Congress -- who had said that those bonuses amounted to "crumbs." A few thousand bucks may be crumbs to her and her tony pals in San Francisco, but it's real money to real people with real jobs trying to pay real bills.

And when the president pointed out that black unemployment was at an historically low level, you'd think that might get at least a grudging positive response from members of the Congressional Black Caucus, the ones who didn't boycott the president's address. But you'd be wrong. The camera caught them sitting on their hands, looking glum.


Hats off to Gayle King of CBS News for her honesty when she said, "Many of the Democrats, at many times, looked like they had bitten a couple of lemons, even when he was saying things most people would agree with."

And there are numbers to back King up. According to a poll conducted by her network, an overwhelming majority of Americans thought the president was trying to unite the country and that the speech made them feel proud. But that wasn't the reaction of progressives, the wing of the Democratic Party that's calling the shots.

To progressives, even good news is bad news if Donald Trump is involved. Actually, it's worse than that. The better the news for the American people, the worst it is for the Democratic Party. Bad news would practically assure a blue wave in November. Too much good news could present problems for Democrats.

Ordinary Americans are an optimistic people. But optimism isn't something Democrats want to convey to voters in an election year when they're the party on the outside looking in.

After the president's speech, Mika Brzezinski, co-host of a Trump-bashing morning show on MSNBC, asked why Democrats should applaud for "the great dictator." She may not be an important voice in mainstream America, but she is right there in the mainstream of the progressive left where her "great dictator" crack doesn't come off nearly as unhinged as it actually is.


CNN's Van Jones, who was a former adviser to President Obama, compared Trump's speech to "sweet-tasting candy with poison in it." Another CNN contributor, a far-left author named Sally Kohn called it a "scary speech" and said that people chanting "USA" sends "chills" down her spine. These are not alien views in progressive precincts.

And Joy Reid of MSNBC tweeted this after the president's speech:

"Church ... family ... police ... military ... the national anthem ... Trump trying to call on all the tropes of 1950s-era nationalism. The goal of this speech appears to be to force the normalization of Trump on the terms of the bygone era his supporters are nostalgic for."

As Heather Wilhelm wrote in National Review, "Ah, I can see the campaign posters now: "Can't stand church and family? Neither can we! Vote for the Democrats in 2018!" It's mind-boggling, isn't it?"

Yes, and so is this: Pelosi says the president's immigration plan is designed "to make America white again." How do you think that nonsense plays in Middle America -- even among voters who don't especially like this president?

Are we really supposed to believe that anyone who supports the Republican Party on immigration isn't simply wrong, but is racist?

The economy may not be enough to save the GOP in November. But if it isn't, desperate Democrats sounding deranged, just might be.
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#1513080 --- 02/06/18 07:43 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! Or Dem's losing [Re: cwjga]
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You're very hilarious to say the least , let try this one on for size, from the age of 2 years old, we're encouraged to act our age through the progression of maturity, now tell us why would anyone with any degree of decorum, dignity,maturity and common sense defy those expectations now at the age of 50,60 and older go back to those adolescent days when we wore diapers and played with building blocks? Donald Trump didn't make you racist or childish, finally a person comes along who will defy the forward movements of the last 5 decades when people attempted to get along irregardless of race, color, financial standing or education but your "savior" has risen who emboldens the hate and racism within yourself and you can rest in the fact that those vile attributes will be reinforced by our racist and adolescent president. Digression is a wonderful thing, wouldn't you say? wink

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#1513107 --- 02/07/18 06:15 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! Or Dem's losing [Re: Formermac]
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Did you know that 1 out of 3 Trump supporters are just as stupid as the other 2?



















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#1513132 --- 02/08/18 03:52 PM Trump Effect-Dow Plunges! [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Dow plunges 1,175 points as stocks fall, wiping out all of this year's gains:

The instant-gratification president reaps what he sows as markets sink.

The Dow Jones industrial average plunged a record 1,175 points, or 4.6%, on Monday as a sell-off in the stock market gained momentum less than two weeks after the market set record highs.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/poli...m=.a2ae6fa3e88b

Dow Nosedives 1,033 Points as Stocks' Losses Deepen:

Stocks sank again Thursday, extending a streak of losses that has yanked the market away from record highs. The Dow Jones industrial average slumped 1,033 points. The tumult started last Friday as investors worried about signs of rising inflation.

The losses were broad. Four stocks fell for every one that rose on the New York Stock Exchange, and 10 out of the 11 industry sectors in the S&P 500 index were down.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/mar...lide/319585002/

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#1513133 --- 02/08/18 04:02 PM Trump Effect-Dow Plunges! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Did Congress, Trump Just Crush The Stock Market Rebound?

Just about the last thing the stock market needed as it tries to recover from the Dow Jones industrial average's 4.6% plunge to start the week was a $300 billion deficit-boosting budget deal.

More:

https://www.investors.com/news/economy/did-congress-trump-just-crush-the-stock-market-rebound/
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#1513146 --- 02/09/18 09:31 AM Re: Trump Effect - Dow Records [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
[quote=Timbo]
Dow plunges 1,175 points as stocks fall, wiping out all of this year's gains:


little do you know about stocks

the Dow 30 all have seen returns ranging from 4% to 120% over the past 12 months

GE was the only DOW 30 stock that has a negative return over the past 12 months
all caused by poor decisions by GE

boeing went up 120% over the past 12 months

so boing went down 5% over the past week making the 12 month return around 115%

bet you wish you doubled your money every 12 months just by properly investing

you also fail to understand that a large majority of the trading done today is by computer generated 'trigger' points

if you invested you would know that you could set one of your stocks to be either sold or more purchased just by setting the 'trigger' points

if your stock goes down by say 2.4% then the computer would sell it before you saw a much larger lose in that stock

if your stock was going up by say 2.4% the 'trigger' point you set could buy more shares of stock because there my be good earnings news or other postive news to make the stock rise

the trend line currently is around the 23,500 mark for the dow

the large mutual funds and large investmentvfunds have computer 'trigger' points set and if their stocks goes up or down depending on their 'trigger' points it can make one stock have large moves either up or down becuase that fund usually has a large amount of money invested in prority stocks like apple, google, amazon , facebook, netflix...

the large moves seen over the past few days are more likely the computer 'trigger' points being used when the stocks move up or down outside of their normal trading range

the economy is strong and there are fears that the fed will increase interest rates

the interst rates have been artificially low for many many years because the economy has only been growing about 1% per year

the current projection is around a 5% growth in the economy over the next year

a strong economy usually means strong earnings for companies and their stocks move higher
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#1513147 --- 02/09/18 09:45 AM Re: Trump Effect - Dow Records [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Dow plunges 1,175 points as stocks fall, wiping out all of this year's gains:


the dow has gone from 18,000 to 26,000 over the past 14 months

so it backs off to 25,000

it still has gone from 18,000 to 25,000 over the past 14 months
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#1513153 --- 02/09/18 11:11 AM Re: Trump Effect - Dow Records [Re: bluezone]
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Tell us the financial repercussion of those who invest in certain stocks which have declined 20% in the last week? Long term, any investment is a risk but your one sided view of a DOW which is fluctuating extremely doesn't set well with those who are heavily invested. In regard to you hypocritical Conservatives, defend a tax cut which added 1.5 trillion dollars to a already bloated deficit. It seems that on this forum, only a year and half ago, you and other criticized any spending above an increase over previous years. Finally explain a DOW that will pay off the debt handed over to our future generation?

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#1513156 --- 02/09/18 02:59 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! Or Dem's losing [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
[quote=Timbo]
Dow plunges 1,175 points as stocks fall, wiping out all of this year's gains:


little do you know about stocks

the Dow 30 all have seen returns ranging from 4% to 120% over the past 12 months

GE was the only DOW 30 stock that has a negative return over the past 12 months
all caused by poor decisions by GE

boeing went up 120% over the past 12 months

so boing went down 5% over the past week making the 12 month return around 115%

bet you wish you doubled your money every 12 months just by properly investing

you also fail to understand that a large majority of the trading done today is by computer generated 'trigger' points

if you invested you would know that you could set one of your stocks to be either sold or more purchased just by setting the 'trigger' points

if your stock goes down by say 2.4% then the computer would sell it before you saw a much larger lose in that stock

if your stock was going up by say 2.4% the 'trigger' point you set could buy more shares of stock because there my be good earnings news or other postive news to make the stock rise

the trend line currently is around the 23,500 mark for the dow

the large mutual funds and large investmentvfunds have computer 'trigger' points set and if their stocks goes up or down depending on their 'trigger' points it can make one stock have large moves either up or down becuase that fund usually has a large amount of money invested in prority stocks like apple, google, amazon , facebook, netflix...

the large moves seen over the past few days are more likely the computer 'trigger' points being used when the stocks move up or down outside of their normal trading range

the economy is strong and there are fears that the fed will increase interest rates

the interst rates have been artificially low for many many years because the economy has only been growing about 1% per year

the current projection is around a 5% growth in the economy over the next year

a strong economy usually means strong earnings for companies and their stocks move higher


Schumer said we would never see 3% growth again. He is right if the Dem's had their way.
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#1513157 --- 02/09/18 06:40 PM Re: Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! Or Dem's losing [Re: cwjga]
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Lets push some truths here, the economic growth was in place way before Trump even announced a run for the POTUS...remember Trump's claims of Obama's unemployment numbers, job creations etc being fictitious?...now the same idiot want credit for what was factual for several years that the economy was on the uptick already. Now for breaking news, Trump's staff overturn is at a whopping 34% (record) the percentage of staff arrested-4, 2100 lies from the president, racist, misogynistic, protect rapists, pedophiles, women abusers and Russian hackers......but................look at that DOW!!!!!!! which even has the ability to correct itself. something that a liar in chief fails to do.


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#1513159 --- 02/10/18 12:24 AM Trump Effect-Dow Plunges! [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo

Dow plunges 1,175 points as stocks fall, wiping out all of this year's gains:

little do you know about stocks

Little do YOU know about the inevitable volatile stock market responses to reckless, unchallenged deficit spending. You aint seen nothin' yet.
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#1513172 --- 02/10/18 03:12 PM Re: Trump Effect - Dow Records [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Tell us the financial repercussion of those who invest in certain stocks which have declined 20% in the last week? Long term, any investment is a risk but your one sided view of a DOW which is fluctuating extremely doesn't set well with those who are heavily invested. In regard to you hypocritical Conservatives, defend a tax cut which added 1.5 trillion dollars to a already bloated deficit. It seems that on this forum, only a year and half ago, you and other criticized any spending above an increase over previous years. Finally explain a DOW that will pay off the debt handed over to our future generation?


yawn...
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#1513174 --- 02/10/18 03:29 PM Re: Trump Effect-Dow Records [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Dow plunges 1,175 points as stocks fall, wiping out all of this year's gains:


this year is only 40 days old...


you may want to look up the largest PERCENTAGE lose in the stock market in one day?

was it 22%?

and you now worry about a 4% or 5% fluctuation


did you see record 19,000 for the stock market
did you see record 20,000 for the stock market
did you see record 21,000 for the stock market
did you see record 22,000 for the stock market
did you see record 23,000 for the stock market
did you see record 24,000 for the stock market
did you see record 25,000 for the stock market
did you see record 26,000 for the stock market

all since hillary lost...

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Little do YOU know about the inevitable volatile stock market responses to reckless, unchallenged deficit spending.


the stock market will be much higher by the end of 2018

Originally Posted By: Timbo
You aint seen nothin' yet.


company earnings will be positive and the stock market will move upward
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#1513175 --- 02/10/18 03:35 PM Re: Trump Effect - Dow Records [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Tell us the financial repercussion of those who invest in certain stocks which have declined 20% in the last week? Long term, any investment is a risk but your one sided view of a DOW which is fluctuating extremely doesn't set well with those who are heavily invested. In regard to you hypocritical Conservatives, defend a tax cut which added 1.5 trillion dollars to a already bloated deficit. It seems that on this forum, only a year and half ago, you and other criticized any spending above an increase over previous years. Finally explain a DOW that will pay off the debt handed over to our future generation?


yawn...



Exactly what I said to you several years ago. I'll match my life style up to yours and what's the bet that my earnings, taxes and investments makes me more of an expert to this particular dialogue. whistle

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#1513177 --- 02/10/18 03:52 PM Re: Trump Effect - Dow Records [Re: Formermac]
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Exactly what I said to you several years ago. I'll match my life style up to yours and what's the bet that my earnings, taxes and investments makes me more of an expert to this particular dialogue.


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#1513178 --- 02/10/18 03:55 PM Re: Trump Effect-Dow Records [Re: bluezone]
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Never ceases to amaze me that people as yourself have marginal income, very few investments but brags about the very things which are out of their reach solely for fact that the markets benefits those that are heavily invested. In regard to your tax cut, I guess that you join ranks with that school teacher who receives an additional $1.50 in her check while the people you support and vote for, garners the lion's share.......In the world of common sense, they call that being an " UNEDUCATED SUCKER" grin

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#1513179 --- 02/10/18 03:57 PM Re: Trump Effect - Dow Records [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Exactly what I said to you several years ago. I'll match my life style up to yours and what's the bet that my earnings, taxes and investments makes me more of an expert to this particular dialogue.





I laid down laughing when you failed to present a claim of stating how much you made in stocks and bonds while bragging about the huge increase in your bring home pay. wink

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#1513181 --- 02/10/18 04:09 PM Re: Trump Effect-Dow Records [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Never ceases to amaze me that people as yourself have marginal income, very few investments but brags about the very things which are out of their reach solely for fact that the markets benefits those that are heavily invested. In regard to your tax cut, I guess that you join ranks with that school teacher who receives an additional $1.50 in her check while the people you support and vote for, garners the lion's share.......In the world of common sense, they call that being a


have a pleasant day wink
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