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#1512994 --- 02/04/18 07:06 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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#1512997 --- 02/04/18 11:25 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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I saw someone post this on another website: What if all the money given out for the tax cut stayed the same but it was divided up and only given to people who make less than $100,000 a year?

Wow. What a great idea. That it would certainly stimulate the economy much more than what they did. And it would probably put a lot more people above the poverty level.
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#1512999 --- 02/04/18 12:43 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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#1513003 --- 02/04/18 12:54 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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A tweet from Republican Ana Navarro

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Trump says re memo: “What’s happening in this country is a disgrace. A lot of people should be ashamed.” Agree. Donald Trump should be ashamed. Devin Nunes should be ashamed. And every Republican looking the other way on this partisan attack on law enforcement should be ashamed.
1:04 PM - Feb 2, 2018
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#1513054 --- 02/04/18 07:05 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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George Takei
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The U.S. government will borrow $1 trillion more this year than in did last year, because Trump is a tremendous businessman who will run our country as well as he did his real estate and brand empire. He is morally and actually bankrupting us.
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#1513056 --- 02/04/18 07:07 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Why don't Republicans fret about the debt anymore? @AnnieLowrey asks http://theatln.tc/2ED0WnR
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#1513058 --- 02/04/18 07:25 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
A tweet from Republican Ana Navarro

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Ana Navarro
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Trump says re memo: “What’s happening in this country is a disgrace. A lot of people should be ashamed.” Agree. Donald Trump should be ashamed. Devin Nunes should be ashamed. And every Republican looking the other way on this partisan attack on law enforcement should be ashamed.
1:04 PM - Feb 2, 2018


How soon we forget

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#1513137 --- 02/09/18 05:51 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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Well, that was a disastrous press briefing for the White House...
Chris Cillizza
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 8:10 PM ET, Thu February 8, 2018
WH: Trump 'saddened' by Rob Porter reports




The deputy White House press secretary had to hold his first press briefing following the resignation of White House staff secretary Rob Porter over domestic abuse allegations.
But even by those lowered standards, it didn't go well. At all.
Before I get into why, let me praise Shah. "I think it's fair to say we all could have done better dealing with this over the last few days," he acknowledged regarding the White House response to the Porter situation. Amen. A little candor goes a long way. And, reminder: He was in an impossible situation.
Now on to the less good -- in no particular order:
1. Shah said that Porter had been "terminated" on Wednesday.
But that's not at all what happened! Porter offered his resignation -- and it was accepted. Of course, that came after White House chief of staff John Kelly repeatedly urged Porter to stay on even after it became very, very clear the seriousness of the allegations against the staff secretary.
2. Shah tried to argue that because Porter hadn't allegedly hit any of the women during his time in the White House, it was more an issue for the background check people to deal with.
"The allegations made against Rob Porter, as we understand them, involve incidents long before he joined the White House," said Shah. "Therefore they are best evaluated through the background check process."
WHAAAAAAT?!?
President Donald Trump famously promised he would bring the "best" people with him to Washington. Being the best people doesn't start when you formally begin working in the White House. It is the job of the White House to ensure that the people working in the building -- especially one with such direct access to the President -- meet a certain standard of conduct. And have met a certain standard of conduct.
3. In explaining the radical difference between Kelly's hugely supportive statement of Porter on Tuesday night and his less supportive one on Wednesday, Shah said the chief of staff became "fully" aware of the allegations.
But according to CNN's reporting, Kelly had known for months about the allegations. The ONLY thing that changed was that a picture of one of Porter's ex-wives with a massive black eye went public. Which raises the question: Did Kelly only change his total defense of Porter when the picture made clear it couldn't be effectively sustained?
4. Shah painted Kelly as totally unaware that the FBI had been told by both of Porter's ex-wives that he had abused them.
How is that possible? Did he simply not think to ask? Why not -- especially given that Porter still didn't have a security clearance after more than a year in the White House? And double why not -- because Porter was interacting so closely with Trump day in and day out?
5. Shah said that communications director Hope Hicks, who has been dating Porter, had "recused" herself from some conversations about the situation.
But, we know -- again thanks to CNN reporting -- that Hicks was one of a handful of people involved in the crafting of Kelly's first -- and hugely supportive -- statement on Porter. That no one stepped in and told Hicks she simply shouldn't (and couldn't) be involved boggles my mind.
6. This line: "I think you have got to take allegations seriously, you have got to take denials seriously."
Here's the thing: BOTH of Porter's ex-wives told the FBI that he had abused them. Both women had their stories confirmed by people with whom they shared the details contemporaneously. And a third woman who had dated Porter contacted his two ex-wives in 2016 detailing further abuse. Also, the picture. The black eye. The total lack of an explanation by Porter. (He has denied the black eye picture came about as the result of any abuse. But he has offered zero explanation for why it did happen.)
At some point, the number of allegations, the depth of details and the similarities between the women make this more than a "he said-she said" conversation. And that point was a while ago when the two women talked to the FBI.
The Point: Holy cow. Not good. The whole thing left more questions than answers. And the press shouldn't stop asking them.

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#1513210 --- 02/11/18 06:03 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/11/bannon-metoo-movement-trump-joshua-green-sotu-sot.cnn

Bannon: #MeToo movement could take down Trump

Author Joshua Green describes Steve Bannon's relationship with President Trump. Bannon told Green that he believes the #MeToo movement could be an existential threat to Republicans.
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#1513212 --- 02/12/18 07:02 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Based on the newest movement by Trump and some of his surrogates, these guys are the victims. The silence from the Republican party defines once again, their ownership as the party of racists & misogynistic views.



https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/12/politics/donald-trump-rob-porter-john-kelly-chaos/index.html



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#1513214 --- 02/12/18 07:28 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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It just astounds me that the GOP elicit racist views as easy as one sneezing in a room full of pollen, they just can't help themselves.


https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/poli...ncee/327491002/

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#1513216 --- 02/12/18 09:14 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
George Takei
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The U.S. government will borrow $1 trillion more this year than in did last year, because Trump is a tremendous businessman who will run our country as well as he did his real estate and brand empire. He is morally and actually bankrupting us.
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#1513217 --- 02/12/18 09:36 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: cwjga]
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Sour candy, it's funny that you've spent a entire years speaking of our hatred of Trump but the hypocrisy is so putrid, why did you hate Obama who never disrespect racial group as trump does?, never disrespect women as Trump does? He never insulted people as a whole, especially foreign countries.it seem that racism and hatred is an redeeming attribute adverse to being a gentleman for 8 years as Obama did. I get it son, you have more acceptance to a racist old White guy than that of a decent Black fella...we got that years ago based on your postings. laugh

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#1513218 --- 02/12/18 10:21 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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I had the opportunity to watch the Patty Hearst story last night. It's a reminder of the Biblical passage that states "For much is given, the same is required" basically saying that the rich have money but on the downside, their woes, worries, burden and pains are much more extenuating than the average joe. Now to my point, you Trump supporters brag about the DOW and job rates, all which were on up tick during the Obama era but never in the White House have we seen such turmoil and lies since the days of Nixon. I guess that your adage is "we're rich, damn the fact that my kids are drug heads, the Daughter is pregnant for the umpteenth time thus requiring another abortion, the Husband has several girlfriends and doesn't sleep well at night. Finally I'm waiting for one of you Trump supporters to illicit your personal financial gains since he came into office because in regard to global threats, disrespect and impeding wars, tell us how great life is for ya?

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#1513222 --- 02/13/18 10:40 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
George Takei
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The U.S. government will borrow $1 trillion more this year than in did last year, because Trump is a tremendous businessman who will run our country as well as he did his real estate and brand empire. He is morally and actually bankrupting us.
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I find it very befitting that some are as racist as they come but in the same vein many Trump defender say that acting, speaking and going along with racist behavior and rhetoric doesn't necessarily make one racist. Liberals have been saying for decades that people are grouped into cubbyholes which attempt to stereotype certain individuals as stupid, crime makers and degenerates but at then same time witness those same attributes in the POTUS and call him a fine man. No wonder why racists and degenerates identify more particularly with the GOP. whistle


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#1513298 --- 02/19/18 02:19 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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At least 4 people shot, including 6-year-old, at Texas Roadhouse in San Antonio http://cbsn.ws/2ohJKwy
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#1513299 --- 02/19/18 03:18 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-read-president-shares-poll-212900495.html

Can Trump Read? President Shares Poll That Shows Democrats Ahead But Claims GOP Is Leading

President Donald Trump appeared unsure how to read polling data properly after sharing the results of a survey that shows Democrats leading a generic 2018 Congressional matchup—with the president boasting that the GOP was ahead.

The strange observation came on Sunday, when the president tweeted that the Republican Party had made a “big gain” and was leading in the Generic Congressional Ballot—which it was not.

“Great Pollster John McLaughlin now has the GOP up in the Generic Congressional Ballot. Big gain over last 4 weeks. I guess people are loving the big Tax Cuts given them by the Republicans, the Cuts the Dems want to take away. We need more Republicans!” Trump wrote, appearing to misquote the very poll to which he was referring.

The president appeared to reference the McLaughlin and Associates poll shared on February 9, which showed that the Democrats were leading the Republicans by 45 percentage points to 42 percentage points on the Generic Ballot for Congress.

The poll did show that voters felt there should be a move away from the policies of former President Barack Obama, with 44 percent supporting Obama-era policies and 47 percent wanting to put some distance from them—numbers that may have confused the president in what appears to be yet another Twitter gaffe.

Indeed, Trump has previously shared polls that put his approval rating at less than 50 percent, which is odd, given that anything below 50 percent means that a majority of Americans disapprove of him.

The president also routinely touts only polls that paint him in the most positive light, Politico reported at the end of last year, with Trump liking the polls that make him feel good and claiming that the polls that do not show him having widespread support are simply “fake news.”
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#1513307 --- 02/19/18 09:40 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-mueller-trump-cornered-130900469.html

Robert Mueller Has Trump Cornered

Special counsel Robert Mueller is methodically, brilliantly filling in pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. When complete, the puzzle will depict a president who is ripe - overripe - for impeachment.

Mueller’s indictment on Friday of Russia’s cyberwarfare against the 2016 election was a tactical and investigative masterstroke. President Donald Trump is now cornered. Mueller’s report makes a total liar out of Trump for his repeated claims that he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin when Putin says Russia had nothing to do it, that the hacking could have been “some guy in New Jersey.”

The indictments do not quite connect the Russian operation to Putin personally, but that’s beside the point. No serious person believes that an operation as sensitive as deliberate disruption of the U.S. election could go forward without Putin’s full knowledge and support in a state as authoritarian as his.

Trump, having repeatedly denied Russian involvement, has now shifted gears and is insisting that the proper test of wrongdoing is “collusion.” But this is a straw man.

During the campaign, Trump repeatedly and publicly urged the Russians to come forward with dirt on Hillary Clinton. His top advisers met with Russian operatives to see what they had. That part of Mueller’s investigation is still open.

What we already know is plenty damning. A conspiracy of interest does not have to include an explicit tit-for-tat deal. It can be based on signaling.

In this case, Trump and his family relied on massive bailouts of his failing business enterprises from Russian oligarchs close to the Kremlin. When he became a presidential candidate, the Russians treated him as an asset &#8213; a useful idiot, as Stalinists used to put it. And when the campaign finalists turned out to be Trump versus the hard-line Clinton, the Russians sought to destroy her and elect Trump. Trump, meanwhile, became the most pro-Russia president in U.S. history, refusing to breathe a word of criticism of Putin, behaving like the head of a client state. This much of the story is hidden in plain view.
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein announced last week the indictment of 13 Russian nationals and three Russian organizations for meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. (Win McNamee via Getty Images)

The details - ; of Russian financing of Trump’s businesses, and of more campaign contacts - ; are likely to be spelled out in further indictments, almost surely including members of Trump’s family, and in Mueller’s final report, which will look very much like a bill of impeachment.

What’s astonishing &#8213; and devastating &#8213; is that this detailed report on Russian manipulation of a U.S. presidential election had to come from a special counsel. Under a normal administration, evidence of a foreign power meddling in a U.S. election would have prompted a presidential order for a full investigation. Instead, Trump mocked the whole idea and used his influence to block such inquiries by House and Senate panels.

Rather than looking deeply into Russian interference, the president appointed a commission on election integrity, headed by Vice President Mike Pence and Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state best known for voter suppression, based on the premise that massive voter fraud by immigrants and others not qualified to vote had helped Clinton win the national popular vote. This was so preposterous that the commission collapsed of its own weight.

So where does Mueller’s latest set of indictments leave us?

First, these disclosures end Trump’s intermittent efforts to fire Mueller. If he were to try that now, it would be an open-and-shut case of obstruction of justice. Congressional Republicans would have no choice but to begin the impeachment process.

Second, they drive a further wedge between Trump and the Republican leadership in the House and Senate. All key Republicans, whatever their marriage of convenience with Trump on other issues, have expressed outrage at the Russian operations and praised Mueller. Trump, by contrast, has only proclaimed his own lack of complicity, and has said nothing about what documented Russian interference means for American democracy, much less vowed to resist it and punish Putin.
President Donald Trump walks out of the Oval Office on Feb. 16. (Bloomberg via Getty Images)

We also see a further wedge between Trump and the entire intelligence community. Last week, on the eve of the Mueller indictments, the leaders of every major intelligence agency, including Trump appointees, testified unanimously before Congress that there was no doubt that Russia meddled in the 2016 election. Unlike Trump, they are alarmed that Putin tipped a U.S. election to a pro-Kremlin stooge.

One question is the degree to which Mueller’s 37-page indictment relied on materials from those U.S. intelligence agencies, and what else the government has that it isn’t revealing out of concern for disclosing “sources and methods.” Mueller’s indictment goes into far more detail than anything else that has been made public.

Two other questions remain. First is Mueller’s timing. When will other indictments come? He could wrap things up in a matter of weeks, or the investigation could drag out beyond November’s midterm elections.


Second is how the U.S. should punish and deter Russia. The Russian actions to undermine American democracy and tip the election amounted to an act of war. And if those actions were as effective as much reporting and now Mueller’s indictments have suggested they were, it means Trump literally became president in a Russia-sponsored coup d’etat.

The U.S. and the Russians surely have the capacity to knock out each other’s vital defense and infrastructure systems that rely on the internet. But unlike the nuclear deterrence of Mutually Assured Destruction, there are no bright lines when it comes to self-restraint in cyberwar. If there were, Russia surely crossed one in 2015 and 2016.

What sort of retaliation makes sense? Mutually assured cyberdestruction would be a catastrophe; that’s why Russia gets away with these incursions. But slaps on the wrist like banning the travel or freezing the bank accounts of a few Russian individuals just makes America look pitiful.

This is the serious question America needs to take up, once Trump is gone. Thanks to Mueller’s latest revelations and those still to come, that day may not be far off.

Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect and a professor at Brandeis University’s Heller School. His forthcoming book is Can Democracy Survive Global Capitalism?
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#1513308 --- 02/19/18 10:26 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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let's consider this one scenario, Trump has been rich his entire life and has done it all with one exception, being the POTUS. Take a good look at every rich person's contemplation a run for some political office, not to help the country but more so to add to their resume' IE. Rockefeller, former governor of New York state, Mark Cuban, owner of a professional basketball team, former wrestler turn actor Dwayne "the rock" Johnson, Kyane West the rapper, Oprah Winfrey, Mark Zuckerberg, founder and CEO of Facebook, when you have this much power to dictate people, the sky is the limit as to what you can do. Trump misses his former life of doing what his is accustomed to but not under the watchful eyes of a political environment which makes one accountable to the citizens you govern. The man wants out but truthfully, his uneducated supporters have the need to have this vile man stay the mouth piece for racism, hate and anti government and are willing to accept his dysfunction as a liability but in reality he is a casualty that they're not willing to own up to. Bottom line, we have segment of America that is readily willing to ruin the country for the sake stating their hatred for the "Norm" which was racial unity, fairness toward people of color, women, immigration, jobs, healthcare and the great country we never lost in the first place.

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#1513482 --- 03/04/18 03:38 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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Joe Scarborough Retweeted Brian Stelter

Republicans, the president of the United States praises a communist autocrat for becoming dictator for life and then suggests they keep him in power for life. Wake up.
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