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#1488708 --- 08/23/16 08:25 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
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If NYS would pass the law requirig tribes to have sovereignty over the land to call it a reservation; sales tax laws would be enforceable in Seneca & Cayuga Counties.
Ya but would the state enforce the law in this case? It is my understanding they are already on firm legal ground to collect the sales tax but they don't do it. And the tribes just thumb up their nose at them. And the state does nothing in response.

The reason we lost the sales tax law case was because in the tax law the state changed the definition of a reservation from listing the reservations to defining one as any land that a tribe owns.


you challenge the wording of the law as it relates to how a 'tribe' is determined

if it is not clearly defined then the law should be void and taxes can be collected from the 'tribes'
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#1488717 --- 08/23/16 09:04 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: bluezone]
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Quote:

In a story that seems to be getting odder by the day, one man has been taken into custody for violating probation, who was operating the smoke shop at the Finger Lakes Drive-In.

The Town of Aurelius is taking legal action against the drive-in, as well as the individual who was arrested. Dustin “Dusty” Parker was apprehended at his probation check-in Thursday night.
maybe timbo can explain if the probation check-in was at a 'tribal' law agency or a county law agency?
Good point. It is amazing how some US laws apply to them but not all.
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#1488755 --- 08/24/16 06:06 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Meanwhile, Halfwit would likely become the federal representative and the feds would likely approve the trust land application. For the handful of cash you initially got, you'd end up being out millions more than whatever you got paid even if they did initially pay up all the back taxes. PLUS, if it were granted trust land status then the pilot no longer applies.

the county would have got all the land back

Uhhhh... No.


Uhhhh....

the land was given to the soldiers for DEFEATING the british

are you suggesting your navy benefits be taken away?

the 'tribe' paid the taxes when they purchased the property - meaning NO 'reservation'

SCOTUS ruled that a 'tribe' can not buy land and call it a 'reservation'

the 'tribe' has applied for trust - meaning NO 'reservation'

the 'tribe' now wants a PILOT - meaning NO 'reservation'

where is it written in the Constitution that a US citizen can be a seperate 'nation'?
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#1488760 --- 08/24/16 08:29 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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It is amazing how some US laws apply to them but not all.

Not in the LEAST.

That's the way the Federal Government has orchestrated it's illegal control over the indigenous peoples of the continent. Constitutional law, English Jurisprudence and the UN Charter all specifically forbid such treatment of national sovereigns. By rendering such legal chicaneries of those you refer to, the US government creates a legal gray area, in which to sidestep it own laws, treaties and compacts. Remember, Congress illegally rescinded their status of full-sovereignty in order to get around those legal prohibitions.

If you want your despicable, racist dominance over the rightful heirs of this land, then you're stuck with such utterly unenforceable half-laws. The UN understands your vile game and the political left is finally coming around to set things right, as is plainly obvious with recent policy advancements under the Obama administration.

Poor, suffering colonialist. My heart bleeds for you.
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#1488766 --- 08/24/16 10:24 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Poor, suffering colonialist. My heart bleeds for you.
You are a colonialist too right? So your heart bleeds for yourself?
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#1488773 --- 08/24/16 10:35 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Poor, suffering colonialist. My heart bleeds for you.
You are a colonialist too right?

Decidedly NOT.

But at least you understand that you can't argue about the manipulative, duplicitous, illegal nature of the US' dealings with Native Americans.
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#1488804 --- 08/24/16 06:48 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Poor, suffering colonialist. My heart bleeds for you.
You are a colonialist too right?
Decidedly NOT.

But at least you understand that you can't argue about the manipulative, duplicitous, illegal nature of the US' dealings with Native Americans.
Really? You aren't a colonialist and not a Native American? Then what are you?
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#1488834 --- 08/25/16 08:33 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
plainly obvious with recent policy advancements under the Obama administration.


and what would those be?
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#1488843 --- 08/25/16 09:18 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
plainly obvious with recent policy advancements under the Obama administration.

and what would those be?

If you're not preoccupied, you may feel free to look it up for yourself.



It should take any sincerely curious person less than five seconds.
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#1488847 --- 08/25/16 09:44 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
plainly obvious with recent policy advancements under the Obama administration.

and what would those be?

If you're not preoccupied


and what recent policy advancements did obama bring forth?
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#1488850 --- 08/25/16 09:52 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
the political left is finally coming around to set things right, as is plainly obvious with recent policy advancements under the Obama administration.
and what would those be?
If you're not preoccupied, you may feel free to look it up for yourself.

It should take any sincerely curious person less than five seconds.
and what recent policy advancements did obama bring forth?

MORE Answers that shall remain forever a mystery to the willfully ignorant and pathologically lazy among us.
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#1488853 --- 08/25/16 10:28 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
]MORE Answers that shall remain forever a mystery to the willfully ignorant and pathologically lazy among us.


translation

U got nuthing...
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#1488854 --- 08/25/16 10:33 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Poor, suffering colonialist.


Originally Posted By: Timbo
I was nicknamed "WEAPS" for a very good reason.


you able to point out your own contradicts?

keep running in circles...
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#1488857 --- 08/25/16 10:46 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
It should take any sincerely curious person less than five seconds.
five seconds? LOL You tried to send me on a lot of wild goose chases too until I got wise to you.
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#1488859 --- 08/25/16 10:50 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
MORE Answers that shall remain forever a mystery to the willfully ignorant and pathologically lazy among us.
translation[:] U got nuthin'...

I "got" a fully comprehensive list detailing MULTIPLE Executive Orders and Legislative Acts, Settled Laws AND Discrimination Rulings, Public Statements and Apologies, Six Separate Conferences, New Educational Partnerships And Presidential Vetos, all right here in front of me, on ONE page from the first hit, of ONE Google search.

So don't tell ME that I "GOT" Nothin'.

You're a dreadful bore, Schlitzie.
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#1488860 --- 08/25/16 10:51 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
It should take any sincerely curious person less than five seconds.
five seconds? LOL You tried to send me on a lot of wild goose chases too until I got wise to you.

No, you simply smashed headlong into your own personal wall of limitations.

Kinda sad, actually. frown
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#1488863 --- 08/25/16 10:54 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
MORE Answers that shall remain forever a mystery to the willfully ignorant and pathologically lazy among us.
translation[:] U got nuthin'...
I "got" a fully comprehensive list of MULTIPLE Executive Orders and Legislative Acts, Settled Laws AND Discrimination Rulings, Public Statements and Apologies, Six Separate Conferences, New Educational Partnerships And Presidential Vetos, all right here in front of me, on ONE page from the first hit, of ONE Google search.

So don't tell ME that I "GOT" Nothin'.

You're a dreadful bore, Schlitzie.
And you can't post any of it? BS
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#1488864 --- 08/25/16 11:00 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
MORE Answers that shall remain forever a mystery to the willfully ignorant and pathologically lazy among us.
translation[:] U got nuthin'...
I "got" a fully comprehensive list of MULTIPLE Executive Orders and Legislative Acts, Settled Laws AND Discrimination Rulings, Public Statements and Apologies, Six Separate Conferences, New Educational Partnerships And Presidential Vetos, all right here in front of me, on ONE page from the first hit, of ONE Google search.

So don't tell ME that I "GOT" Nothin'.

You're a dreadful bore, Schlitzie.
And you can't post any of it? BS

Sure I can...

I merely refuse to reward lazy, childish, disingenuous willful ignorance. Exactly like an ill-behaved brat, you're completely intransigent.

Simply put... you haven't earned my favors.


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#1488865 --- 08/25/16 11:03 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
I "got" a fully comprehensive list describing MULTIPLE Executive Orders and Legislative Acts, Settled Laws AND Discrimination Rulings, Public Statements and Apologies, Six Separate Conferences, New Educational Partnerships And Presidential Vetos, all right here in front of me



yawn...

Originally Posted By: Timbo
citations
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#1488866 --- 08/25/16 11:06 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
I "got" a fully comprehensive list describing MULTIPLE Executive Orders and Legislative Acts, Settled Laws AND Discrimination Rulings, Public Statements and Apologies, Six Separate Conferences, New Educational Partnerships And Presidential Vetos, all right here in front of me

yawn...

Need a nap? That's what happens when you stay up all night, crying and being "fussy".
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