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#1501615 --- 07/16/17 04:56 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/eu...tions-1.2921659

US president-elect Donald Trump was gushing in his praise for Russian president Vladimir Putin yesterday evening after Mr Putin ruled out tit-for-tat measures against the United States for imposing sanctions on Russia, as the Kremlin gambles on better ties with Washington in the new US administration.
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#1501616 --- 07/16/17 04:59 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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Conservative author Quin Hillyer wrote in a blog post that Trump should step down for cozying up to Russia. (here)

http://quinhillyer.com/trump-should-resign/#Jy2CXK5SL8usleR6.99

President Donald Trump must resign.

This is not a matter of whether he personally did or did not commit a punishable crime. This is a matter of a president being hopelessly compromised because his own longstanding and weird advocacy of Russian interests, in combination with the now irrefutable proof that his closest family members and campaign chief deliberately took a meeting advertised as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump,” and in combination with Trump firing an FBI director specifically (in Trump’s own words) because Trump was upset with the director’s conduct of the Russia probe.

This is a president whose conduct vis-a-vis the single most dangerous nation (in terms of nuclear weapons capability plus hostility toward American interests around the globe) will now be forever under a cloud. The American people absolutely cannot trust Trump’s objectivity about Russian intentions and Russian actions.

It doesn’t matter what ended up coming from the meeting. Trump Jr accepted the meeting under the impression that this was a “Russian government attorney” working as part of the “Russian government’s” attempt to help his father’s campaign. This was precisely at a time when the Trump campaign already had been coming under public attack for the elder Trump’s repeated defenses of Vladimir Putin and when rumors already were flying all over the place about “Russia-Trump connections.”

And this is from a family which for 30 years had sought business in Russia and which at least since 2008 had, according to Trump Jr., been in a situation in which “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” And that’s just a sampling of the strange and longstanding Trump dealings with shady Russian interests.

This is an utterly untenable situation. For the good of the country, Trump must lance the boil, and resign.

To repeat: The entire Trump camp is hopelessly compromised vis-a-vis Russia, at the very least in terms of the ability to engender public trust. This is bad for the country.
Trump must resign. Trump must resign. Trump must resign.

Note: A longer version of this piece, with a much fuller explanation of why Trump should resign for the good of the country, ran here at PJ Media.
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#1501617 --- 07/16/17 05:01 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/...worth-watching/

Fox News host on Trump: Why all these lies?
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#1501618 --- 07/16/17 05:04 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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I don't understand why anyone would support such a liar. If a child lied this much they would be punished big time.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/16/trump-approval-rating-historic-low-240598

President Donald Trump has hit the lowest approval rating of any president during their first nearly-six months in office in 70 years, according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll.

Thirty-six percent of those surveyed approve of the president's job performance, which is six points down from his 100-day mark, while 58 percent disapprove of Trump's performance.


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#1501634 --- 07/17/17 03:44 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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I don't understand why anyone would support such a liar. If a child lied this much they would be punished big time.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/16/trump-approval-rating-historic-low-240598

President Donald Trump has hit the lowest approval rating of any president during their first nearly-six months in office in 70 years, according to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll.

Thirty-six percent of those surveyed approve of the president's job performance, which is six points down from his 100-day mark, while 58 percent disapprove of Trump's performance.
OH BOY! Those reliable polls again Kyle!

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#1501655 --- 07/17/17 08:17 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! NO WINNING! [Re: gassy one]
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017...ency/478470001/

The time for a turnaround is tightening.

The problem for President Trump is not just that he's had a bumpy beginning in office – so did John Kennedy and Bill Clinton, among others. It's also that he's heading into the second half of his first year in the White House without yet applying lessons learned the hard way about imposing discipline, compartmentalizing scandal and adjusting course.

"It's a presidency under siege," Leon Panetta, a Democratic elder who helped rescue another embattled White House as chief of staff for President Clinton, said in an interview. "Unless some dramatic changes are made, I think there's a real question about whether the presidency can survive."

The first six months of Trump's presidency were brutal.

The next six months could well be worse.

As the midpoint of his crucial first year approaches Thursday, a steady stream of disclosures about contacts between Trump's team and Russians who may have involved in election meddling has transfixed Washington. When it comes to issues closer to Americans' lives back home, the president is still in search of his first major legislative victory on a core campaign promise — to replace Obamacare with a "wonderful" new health care system, say, or to cut taxes, or to launch a massive investment in infrastructure, or to build a wall across the Mexican border.

Allies, critics and historians are watching the clock. While presidents are elected to four years in office, all political time is not created equal. For his modern predecessors, the first year or so after an election is when campaign promises typically are met and signature legislation passed.

An ABC News/Washington Post poll released Sunday showed Trump's standing, which already had set record lows, deteriorating more. His 36%-58% approve-disapprove rating is down six percentage points from the 100-days mark and the lowest for any president at six months in the 70-year history of polling.

What's alarming for those who want the president to succeed is this: The political moment may never be better for Trump than it is now.

He continues to hold relatively solid support from the voters who put him in the White House, and he has the benefit of a House and Senate both under GOP control. Republicans fear and Democrats hope that won't be true after the midterm elections next year.

Even so, Trump is having the most difficult first year of any modern president, says Barbara Perry, director of presidential studies at the University of Virginia's Miller Center. "It comes from his unprecedented lack of government or military experience, and his unprecedented personality," she says.

On the theory that the first year — not the first 100 days — represent the make-or-break time, The Miller Center launched The First Year Project in October 2015 to study the challenges the new president faces in the future and the experiences of his predecessors in the past.

Perry rates two modern presidents as having "A-plus" first years: Franklin Roosevelt, who tackled the Depression by pushing his New Deal programs through Congress with dizzying speed, and George H.W. Bush, who skillfully oversaw the end of the Cold War. She gives George W. Bush an A for delivering on campaign promises of a tax bill and education reform, and for his response in the months after the 9/11 terror attacks.

But she gives Kennedy a B-minus, though with credit for applying lessons he learned during the Bay of Pigs fiasco, and Clinton a C-minus, for early chaos and controversy over appointments and priorities.

And Trump?

"Maybe in the D-plus realm," she says.
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#1501656 --- 07/17/17 08:28 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! NO WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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The comparison with Nixon shows that it will take another year or more before it gets so bad for Trump that he resigns.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...ails/477074001/

President Trump is under siege, unable to escape the darkening cloud of Russian interference in last year's election. As his presidency nears its six-month mark on Thursday, questions and protesters followed him even to his Trump National Golf Club resort in Bedminster, N.J. There he spent the weekend watching the U.S. Women's Open golf tournament and launching Twitter salvos at his detractors.

Watching the news it is hard not to feel echoes of perilous times when other presidents were under siege, or when government institutions were tested by crises.

But it is those dark days that should give Americans a measure of reassurance and hope. Our government is far more durable than any single president.
The Founders created an ingenious system of checks and balances, with three independent branches, that has triumphed over crises throughout our nation’s history.

Watergate was one of the greatest tests of the nation's stability, and there were several moments when it seemed the rule of law might crumble.

In October 1973, when Richard Nixon fired special prosecutor Archibald Cox and attempted to shut down the independent investigation of the Watergate affair, he pushed the system to its breaking point. The blowback in Washington and across the country was so intense that Nixon backed down and turned over several White House tapes that Cox had demanded. A new special prosecutor was appointed and the investigation continued. The next year, after Nixon refused to turn over more of the tapes, the Supreme Court voted unanimously that even a president must abide by a subpoena in a criminal case. Again, Nixon complied. Within months, after the House Judiciary Committee (including six Republicans) voted to impeach him, Nixon resigned rather than put the country through more turmoil. His vice president was sworn in minutes later as president. The nation moved on, scarred but stronger from the ordeal.
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#1501674 --- 07/17/17 04:20 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! NO WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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#1501677 --- 07/17/17 04:26 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Well, it's official. The British Government and the US Government have announced that Donald Trump will be postponing his visit to the UK until 2018. Now, the reason for this is because, and this has been confirmed by British media and a phone call between Teresa May and Donald Trump last month, is that Donald Trump doesn't want to go visit London. He doesn't want to go over to Britain because he's afraid he'll be met with protesters.
Kyle you are a idiot!
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/17/politics/s...sit1150AMVODtop

London Mayor Sadiq Khan has reiterated his opposition to US President Donald Trump being afforded an elaborate state visit when he comes to the UK next year.

"State visits are different from a normal visit and at a time when the President of the USA has policies that many in our country disagree with, I am not sure it is appropriate for our government to roll out the red carpet," Khan told CNN in an interview Monday.
Last week, the White House confirmed that Trump's state visit to the United Kingdom has been delayed until 2018.

The delay comes amid concern that there will be mass protests against Trump in the British capital.
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#1501720 --- 07/17/17 07:02 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Trump officials announce 15,000 additional visas for seasonal workers
The one-time increase in H-2B visas — which would be available to workers taking temporary jobs in the seafood, tourism and other industries but not farm laborers — is a seeming about-face from President Trump’s “Hire American” rhetoric and follows heavy industry lobbying.

By Tracy Jan 3 hours ago

Amid uncertainty about McCain’s health, Senate returns with GOP agenda in flux
The Arizona Republican is recovering from eye surgery that required his skull to be opened, but the timing of his return is unknown — and his vote is key to moving the health bill forward.

By Sean Sullivan and Lenny Bernstein 52 minutes ago

6 defenses of Trump Jr.’s meeting — each less credible than the last
Here’s a scorecard (and plausibility rating) of the explanations the White House and its allies have given to support the actions of the president’s son.

By Aaron Blake1 hour ago
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#1501724 --- 07/17/17 07:50 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Trump officials announce 15,000 additional visas for seasonal workers
The one-time increase in H-2B visas — which would be available to workers taking temporary jobs in the seafood, tourism and other industries but not farm laborers — is a seeming about-face from President Trump’s “Hire American” rhetoric and follows heavy industry lobbying.

By Tracy Jan 3 hours ago

Amid uncertainty about McCain’s health, Senate returns with GOP agenda in flux
The Arizona Republican is recovering from eye surgery that required his skull to be opened, but the timing of his return is unknown — and his vote is key to moving the health bill forward.

By Sean Sullivan and Lenny Bernstein 52 minutes ago

6 defenses of Trump Jr.’s meeting — each less credible than the last
Here’s a scorecard (and plausibility rating) of the explanations the White House and its allies have given to support the actions of the president’s son.

By Aaron Blake1 hour ago




Would you give-it a rest Kyle, no one cares. Its like everything you post Kyle, is what Vann Jones calls a nothing Burger.
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#1501726 --- 07/17/17 07:54 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! NO WINNING! [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Wow. You found a right wing lunatic fringe racist web site that supports Trump!
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#1501727 --- 07/17/17 07:55 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Would you give-it a rest Kyle, no one cares.
Everyone should care. Our precious democracy is at stake. Our founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves.
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#1501730 --- 07/17/17 08:52 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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#1501733 --- 07/17/17 08:58 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
So true!

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#1501816 --- 07/18/17 10:00 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/politics/border-crossings-drop-continue/index.html

And yet another hash mark in the win column for the Trump presidency.

The wins keep coming. Go Trump!
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#1501839 --- 07/19/17 01:23 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: The Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
"Border apprehensions continue to fall under Trump"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/politics/border-crossings-drop-continue/index.html

And yet another hash mark in the win column for the Trump presidency.

The wins keep coming. Go Trump!

Yeah, and began to drop drastically due to the catastrophic job losses as a result of the Great Recession created by the Bush Administration. And By 2013, during the Obama administration, Illegal border crossings dropped to their lowest levels in 40 years. whistle whistle whistle

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/index.html
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/23/net-migration-from-mexico-falls-to-zero-and-perhaps-less/

"A Pew Research Hispanic Center study finds that Border Patrol apprehensions of all unauthorized immigrants are at their lowest level since 1971. "In spite of (and perhaps because of) increases in the number of U.S. Border Patrol agents (as ordered by Obama), apprehensions of Mexicans trying to cross the border illegally have plummeted in recent years—from more than 1 million in 2005 to 286,000 in 2011—a likely indication that fewer unauthorized migrants are trying to cross," it concluded.

Pew estimates that net migration -- newly arrived immigrants minus those leaving (forced or voluntarily) -- has come to a standstill, which it attributes to the weakened U.S. job and construction markets, border enforcement, an increase in deportations, and increased dangers associated with crossing the border.
In all, there were 327,577 illegal immigrant apprehensions in 2011, according to the U.S. Border Patrol. This is the lowest number since 1972, when there were 321,326. According to the Department of Homeland Security, the 2011 figure is a 53% drop from 2008, which it says indicates that fewer people are trying to cross the border."


Context is EVERYTHING.
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#1501845 --- 07/19/17 03:29 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
"Border apprehensions continue to fall under Trump"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/politics/border-crossings-drop-continue/index.html

And yet another hash mark in the win column for the Trump presidency.

The wins keep coming. Go Trump!

Yeah, and began to drop drastically due to the catastrophic job losses as a result of the Great Recession created by the Bush Administration. And By 2013, during the Obama administration, Illegal border crossings dropped to their lowest levels in 40 years. whistle whistle whistle

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/index.html
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/23/net-migration-from-mexico-falls-to-zero-and-perhaps-less/

"A Pew Research Hispanic Center study finds that Border Patrol apprehensions of all unauthorized immigrants are at their lowest level since 1971. "In spite of (and perhaps because of) increases in the number of U.S. Border Patrol agents (as ordered by Obama), apprehensions of Mexicans trying to cross the border illegally have plummeted in recent years—from more than 1 million in 2005 to 286,000 in 2011—a likely indication that fewer unauthorized migrants are trying to cross," it concluded.

Pew estimates that net migration -- newly arrived immigrants minus those leaving (forced or voluntarily) -- has come to a standstill, which it attributes to the weakened U.S. job and construction markets, border enforcement, an increase in deportations, and increased dangers associated with crossing the border.
In all, there were 327,577 illegal immigrant apprehensions in 2011, according to the U.S. Border Patrol. This is the lowest number since 1972, when there were 321,326. According to the Department of Homeland Security, the 2011 figure is a 53% drop from 2008, which it says indicates that fewer people are trying to cross the border."


Context is EVERYTHING.
You're full of crap as usual Bimbo!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/illegal-immigration-down-67-percent-under-trump/


The only thing Obama did was not letting Border patrol do their jobs plus his stupid DACA program!

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#1501871 --- 07/19/17 10:03 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: The Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/politics/border-crossings-drop-continue/index.html

And yet another hash mark in the win column for the Trump presidency.

The wins keep coming. Go Trump!


Head of Border Patrol Union: 'Energy' Among Agents Is Best I've Ever Seen

Morale among U.S. Border Patrol agents is at an all-time high, the president of the National Border Patrol Council said today.

Brandon Judd, the union's president, said agents felt hamstrung for years under the Obama administration's catch-and-release policies at the border.


"Whether you're in the left, right or middle, you have to say this president has done exactly what he's promised to do," said Judd, pointing out the huge drop in apprehensions at the border.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection said this month that apprehensions have fallen to a six-year low, likely due to President Trump's aggressive enforcement and promises to deport those who enter the U.S. illegally.

Judd said there is now a "vibe and an energy" among Border Patrol officers that he has never seen in his 20-year career.

"We signed up to do a job and this president is allowing us to do that job," said Judd, expressing hope that the border wall will be built.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/07/17/bo...gy-among-agents


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#1501874 --- 07/19/17 02:12 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: cwjga]
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...him-down-215388

Will Trump's Obsession With Loyalty Bring Him Down?

Covering up for his favorite aides is what sank Richard Nixon. Is Trump making the same mistakes?

By James Robenalt July 19, 2017

Now that Donald Trump Jr.’s emails reveal that the Trump campaign welcomed election interference by the Russians (“I love it,” Junior enthused at the promise of receiving intel on candidate Hillary Clinton from a Kremlin-linked source), it might be a good time to turn the spotlight back to President Donald Trump and whether his actions since becoming president constitute obstruction of justice.

History does not necessarily repeat itself, but sometimes it smells the same. And once again, Watergate provides a useful yardstick for measuring Trump’s Russia-gate. A review of how events unfolded over the two years of disclosures during the Watergate probe suggests a pattern: President Richard Nixon was involved in a cover-up to protect people close to him, not necessarily himself.

It’s very possible that a similar story is unfolding today—that Trump’s undoing isn’t direct involvement in Kremlin-backed election interference, but rather obstrution of justice to protect both his son and his son-in-law for their role in the Russia scandal.

The story of Nixon and Mitchell casts Trump’s actions in connection with the Russian investigation in a new light: The president may not have known directly about details of the proposed Russian interference, but he likely knew that his son and son-in-law met with individuals who had Russian connections, and thus that they would be in jeopardy if the FBI continued to dig. By this logic, it is not hard to conceive that Trump’s string of startling and obstructive decisions—asking FBI Director James Comey to discontinue the Flynn investigation, firing Comey when the Russia investigation seemed to be expanding and asking the country to move on rather than sanctioning Russia—have been to protect his children.

Nixon did not have to lose his presidency over the bungled break-in. But his personal concern for his close friend was probably the main reason he became enmeshed in a career-ending cover-up that he had no rational hope of controlling. Think of how much easier it would be to fall into that trap with the reputations of one’s own children on the line.

In the end though, as Nixon said, the truth has a way of coming out. Now, we simply await the next shoes to drop.
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