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#1512388 --- 01/13/18 11:11 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/on-...kushpmg00000009

As temperatures dropped below zero on South Dakota’s Pine Ridge Indian Reservation earlier this month, one young girl felt she had had enough.

She was tired of feeling cold inside her home as temperatures plummeted, which they do often there. She had enough of watching her parents constantly struggle to scrounge up wood to heat the house.

The 12-year-old girl went to the bathroom and tried to kill herself.

“She was tired of waking up cold,” Jimmy Two Bulls, a Pine Ridge resident who’s helping out the girl’s family, told HuffPost. “Reservation life is a hard life to live. It’s a struggle.”

Suicides reached record highs in South Dakota last year. Oglala Lakota County, which is where the Pine Ridge reservation is located, was one of five counties in the state with the highest rates of suicide. People who have experience dealing with depression and suicide on the reservation say this is tied, in part, to the devastatingly difficult conditions residents face.

While there’s no indication that suicides increase during the winter, local experts say winter’s relentless conditions can lead to feelings of despair. A 2016 study conducted through the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs found that there’s a close correlation between poverty rates and suicide rates in the U.S.

“It’s tough, and it all builds up,” Eileen Janis, 57, who co-runs Oglala Sioux Tribe Suicide Prevention, told HuffPost. “And you say: ‘To hell with it. I just want to die.’”

Pine Ridge, South Dakota: Youth suicide on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation remains a pressing concern. Oglala Sioux Tribe Suicide Prevention, the reservation’s sole suicide prevention program, conducts outreach and collaborates with health professionals and religious leaders to place those at risk into appropriate programs.

Janis’s organization is the reservation’s sole suicide prevention group, and she and just one other counselor, Yvonne DeCory, serve the reservation’s 40,000 residents.

Both women keep their phones on 24 hours a day, seven days a week. DeCory said they may get calls about three or four suicide attempts a night, year round.

Pine Ridge, which is larger than Delaware and Rhode Island combined, is in the third-poorest county in the United States. It’s home to the Oglala Lakota, a tribe that’s part of the Sioux people. Per capita income in the county is $9,150, and 80 percent of residents are unemployed.

The pervasive poverty forces residents to make impossible choices: whether to pay to heat a home or buy enough food to feed the family, for example.

Suicide is the most severe risk advocates worry about during the winter. But it’s not the only one. People living without heat are also susceptible to hypothermia, and older members of the community are particularly vulnerable because their health could already be compromised. Those who rely on space heaters run the danger of starting a house fire. Children who don’t have access to sufficient heat struggle to sleep at night and then aren’t able to concentrate in school, Alice Phelps, 47, principal of the Wounded Knee School District, told HuffPost.

“The children act up at school. But when we talk to them one-on-one, the bottom line is they didn’t sleep that night,” Phelps, who grew up on the reservation, said. “They’ll say: ‘I didn’t have a blanket. I gave it to my little sister. I was cold.’ It just breaks your heart.”

Winter is also the time children appreciate school the most, because the building is heated and they’re guaranteed at least one hot meal. Attendance is near perfect at this time of year, Phelps said.

“They want to be in school,” Phelps said. “It’s warm. It’s safe. Their immediate needs are met.

While it's painfully obvious that you and blue zone have a pathological animosity for Native Americans, why don't the two of you stop highjacking this thread and approprately post your generalized hostilities in the Tribal News thread where they clearly belong?

That fact that you prefer to use an article that lays out the suffering of many indigenous groups, as a criticism of the state of NA affairs, rather than to take the opportunity use the article to actually HELP them, is beyond shameful.

Get a grip and stow your false moral outrage.
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#1512392 --- 01/13/18 12:07 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
That fact that you prefer to use an article that lays out the suffering of many indigenous groups, as a criticism of the state of NA affairs, rather than to take the opportunity use the article to actually HELP them, is beyond shameful.
I don't like to see anyone suffer or live like that they do on that reservation. So my question to you once again is what we should America do as a nation to help them?
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#1512393 --- 01/13/18 12:16 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
That fact that you prefer to use an article that lays out the suffering of many indigenous groups, as a criticism of the state of NA affairs, rather than to take the opportunity use the article to actually HELP them, is beyond shameful.
So my question to you once again is what we should America do as a nation to help them?

Still having difficulty understanding the term "thread highjacking", are you?
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#1512394 --- 01/13/18 12:16 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
That fact that you prefer to use an article that lays out the suffering of many indigenous groups, as a criticism of the state of NA affairs, rather than to take the opportunity use the article to actually HELP them, is beyond shameful.
I don't like to see anyone suffer or live like that they do on that reservation.

And yet, here you are.
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#1512398 --- 01/13/18 12:48 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
That fact that you prefer to use an article that lays out the suffering of many indigenous groups, as a criticism of the state of NA affairs, rather than to take the opportunity use the article to actually HELP them, is beyond shameful.
I don't like to see anyone suffer or live like that they do on that reservation.
And yet, here you are.
And you have no solution do you?
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#1512415 --- 01/13/18 05:14 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
That fact that you prefer to use an article that lays out the suffering of many indigenous groups, as a criticism of the state of NA affairs, rather than to take the opportunity use the article to actually HELP them, is beyond shameful.
I don't like to see anyone suffer or live like that they do on that reservation.
And yet, here you are.
And you have no solution do you?

None that you're willing to meet half-way on, that's for sure.
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#1512417 --- 01/13/18 05:48 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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As long as your elite live like kings and don't pay taxes, I don't care. They have the rest living in squalor, not us.

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#1512420 --- 01/13/18 05:58 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
As long as your elite live like kings and don't pay taxes, I don't care. They have the rest living in squalor, not us.

1) They're not "my" anything.

2) Incorrect and false argument - There are elite and impoverished in EVERY society in the world including that which is shared by "us".

3) If you think that "white" (or European-descended) US citizenry doesn't have "Kings" that "don't pay taxes", then you are one conspicuously deluded individual. In fact, I have no doubt that there are FAR more, getting away with FAR greater.

4) Your argument makes entirely no sense, bar that of a racist pretext. The fact that you "don't care" is simply more direct evidence supporting that likelihood.
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#1512421 --- 01/13/18 06:44 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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White?

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#1512422 --- 01/13/18 07:05 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
White?

Yeah, you know... 63% of the US population, or 197.7 out of 313.9 million Americans. Otherwise known as the ethnic demographic mostly responsible for setting-up and running the current "show" on this land.

Are you familiar with THEM?
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#1512447 --- 01/14/18 07:36 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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If you say so.

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#1512450 --- 01/15/18 12:14 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Top Dog]
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I know so. Facts are funny that way. smirk
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#1512464 --- 01/15/18 01:54 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
That fact that you prefer to use an article that lays out the suffering of many indigenous groups, as a criticism of the state of NA affairs, rather than to take the opportunity use the article to actually HELP them, is beyond shameful.
I don't like to see anyone suffer or live like that they do on that reservation.
And yet, here you are.
And you have no solution do you?

None that you're willing to meet half-way on, that's for sure.

Should we give them even more taxpayer dollars?

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#1512475 --- 01/16/18 08:45 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: hearallseeall]
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Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
Should we give them even more taxpayer dollars?
He won't answer that. He will go around in circles on it again.
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#1512481 --- 01/16/18 11:43 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
That fact that you prefer to use an article that lays out the suffering of many indigenous groups, as a criticism of the state of NA affairs, rather than to take the opportunity use the article to actually HELP them, is beyond shameful.
I don't like to see anyone suffer or live like that they do on that reservation.

And yet, here you are.


....same old same old. There is no chance of a remedy. This is what the discussion looks and sounds like. We no longer need to bother trying.

To get the thread back from Hyjacking, it's easy to say we don't need a militia forming by anyone let alone a NA group. That is a threat to public safety and I'm sure it will take us to a bad place at some point. That's a problem.

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#1512485 --- 01/16/18 01:51 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
Should we give them even more taxpayer dollars?

As I've previously and repeatedly stated... how about starting with "unconditional, unfettered sovereignty of ALL native peoples"?

Originally Posted By: kyle585
He won't answer that. He will go around in circles on it again.

Wrong as usual, Kyle.
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#1512492 --- 01/16/18 06:53 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
Should we give them even more taxpayer dollars?

As I've previously and repeatedly stated... how about starting with "unconditional, unfettered sovereignty of ALL native peoples"?

Originally Posted By: kyle585
He won't answer that. He will go around in circles on it again.

Wrong as usual, Kyle.
You once again just proved me right. You have no answer.
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#1512494 --- 01/16/18 07:13 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
Should we give them even more taxpayer dollars?
As I've previously and repeatedly stated... how about starting with "unconditional, unfettered sovereignty of ALL native peoples"?
Originally Posted By: kyle585
He won't answer that. He will go around in circles on it again.
Wrong as usual, Kyle.
You once again just proved me right. You have no answer.

With all DUE respect, Kyle... you're an insufferable bore and an unqualified hypocrite.
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#1512495 --- 01/16/18 07:31 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
....same old same old. There is no chance of a remedy. This is what the discussion looks and sounds like. We no longer need to bother trying.

To get the thread back from Hyjacking, it's easy to say we don't need a militia forming by anyone let alone a NA group. That is a threat to public safety and I'm sure it will take us to a bad place at some point. That's a problem.

Do you mean a "bad place" like that experienced by the native inhabitants of this continent? THAT kind of BAD place?

Sauce for the goose and chicks coming home to roost, it would appear
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#1514294 --- 04/25/18 07:13 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Top Dog
White?

Yeah, you know... 63% of the US population, or 197.7 out of 313.9 million Americans.


and which group are you?
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