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#1512325 --- 01/12/18 06:59 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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Outrageous Prosecutorial Misconduct Comes Home to Roost in the Cliven Bundy Case
Bob Barr
Former congressman Bob Barr won't be making a congressional comeback this year. He lost by a wide margin Tuesday in the Republican runoff for the U.S. House in Georgia's 11th district.
Great post cwjga. Thanks for bringing this up. grin


I thought it important to show how The Obama administration just threw the constitution in the trash.

Good to have a president that believes in the constitution back in the white house.
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#1512327 --- 01/12/18 07:03 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Suppose Oprah Winfrey beats Trump in 2020. That would mean the Trump presidency would be sandwiched between two Afro-American presidents. Can you imagine anything that would upset Trump and his base more?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/oprah-beats-donald-trump-election-214132677.html

President Donald Trump on Tuesday predicted he’d clock Oprah Winfrey should she decided to run for the White House in 2020. Not necessarily so, says a new Rasmussen Reports survey conducted the Monday and Tuesday after Oprah gave her barn-burning, White House water-testing Cecil B. DeMille Award-accepting speech at the Golden Globe Awards. Polling results show 48% of likely U.S. voters would cast their vote for Oprah, 38% would choose Trump, and a needle-moving 14% remained undecided.



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#1512329 --- 01/12/18 07:24 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: cwjga]
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Once again, show where an announcement was made in regard to her running? Maybe fear sticks in the crawl of you because a Black female Billionaire is more popular than an old crusty racist? whistle

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#1512330 --- 01/12/18 07:34 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Suppose Oprah Winfrey beats Trump in 2020. That would mean the Trump presidency would be sandwiched between two Afro-American presidents. Can you imagine anything that would upset Trump and his base more?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/oprah-beats-donald-trump-election-214132677.html

President Donald Trump on Tuesday predicted he’d clock Oprah Winfrey should she decided to run for the White House in 2020. Not necessarily so, says a new Rasmussen Reports survey conducted the Monday and Tuesday after Oprah gave her barn-burning, White House water-testing Cecil B. DeMille Award-accepting speech at the Golden Globe Awards. Polling results show 48% of likely U.S. voters would cast their vote for Oprah, 38% would choose Trump, and a needle-moving 14% remained undecided.




It's a proven fact that some things are out of reach in regard to what money can buy, ethic, morals, intellect and common decency. Funny how those redeeming attributes are not affordable even for Donald J. Trump and those very attributes are the very reason the next election will see anyone win but Trump, mind you, if he survive till next election due to the lack there of in regard to the above. whistle

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#1512335 --- 01/12/18 10:50 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: Formermac]
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http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/12/health/changing-face-of-america-trnd/index.html

America is changing. Bigoted slurs, immigration bans and racist rallies can't change that

By Michelle Krupa, CNN
Graphics by Will Mullery, CNN

Updated 10:30 AM ET, Fri January 12, 2018

From the moment the United States was born, it has been an exercise in transformation, a nation that every day welcomes new citizens -- by birth and by oath -- to take part in this grand experiment.

Conceived by a band of wealthy, white men who demanded freedom from Great Britain, America has developed into a multicultural, multiethnic community. And even as racist rallies, travel bans and bigoted slurs remain part of our cultural landscape, our transformation rolls on.

By 2065, non-Hispanic whites will only make up 46% of the population -- and no one racial or ethnic group will comprise a majority, experts project. Hispanics will be 24% of the population; Asians will be 14%; blacks will be 13%. Asians will also supplant Hispanics for the largest share of the foreign-born population, experts expect.

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#1512336 --- 01/12/18 10:56 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/12/trump-shithole-comment-reaction-337926


Trump's 'shithole' comment denounced across the globe

Despite his denial, the president faced a massive rebuke from Democrats, some Republicans and world leaders.

By AUBREE ELIZA WEAVER

01/12/2018 10:42 AM EST Updated 01/12/2018 11:42 AM EST

President Donald Trump faced a swift rebuke Friday after allegedly questioning why the United States accepts citizens from “shithole” countries, with foreign governments, Democrats and even some Republicans denouncing the president’s vulgar terminology.

Trump denied on Friday that he made the comments. But in Congress and across the globe, his alleged comments reverberated.


“In the course of [Trump’s] comments, [he] said things which were hate-filled, vile and racist,” Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin said Friday morning. “I use those words advisedly. I understand how powerful they are. But I cannot believe that in the history of the White House, in that Oval Office, any president has spoken the words that I personally heard our president speak yesterday.”

Several Republicans have also denounced Trump’s statement, including Reps. Mia Love, Illeana Ros-Lehtinen and Erik Paulsen.

"The words used by the President, as related to me directly following the meeting by those in attendance were not 'tough,' they were abhorrent and repulsive," Republican Sen. Jeff Flake also wrote.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, meanwhile, said he is looking forward to a “more detailed explanation regarding the president’s comments.”

On Thursday, Republican Gov. Rick Scott of Florida criticized Trump's comments in a statement, saying that if it's true, it's "absolutely wrong to say or think this."

“I do not think this way, nor do I agree with this kind of sentiment. I represent Florida, and we are an amazing melting pot where over 250 languages are spoken," he wrote. “I work every day to make this the most welcoming state for everyone — Haitians, Cubans, Venezuelans and others from all around the world that call Florida home,” Scott said. “I’m incredibly proud of our diversity.”

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#1512340 --- 01/12/18 01:53 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Sure Trump deny it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...ngs/1027816001/

Meanwhile, Sen. Tim Scott said that his fellow South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who was also in the meeting, told him that the comments are “basically accurate," according to The Post and Courier.

Requests for confirmation of Trump's comments sent to all other offices whose members attended the meeting were not immediately answered.

The Washington Post reported Trump's comments Thursday.

On Friday, Trump denied using the language, about Haiti, and tried to turn the conversation to Democrats.

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#1512341 --- 01/12/18 01:54 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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#1512342 --- 01/12/18 01:58 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tru...baffled-n837031

Trump’s vulgar remark on Haiti, Africa leaves immigrants baffled

by Phil Helsel and James Rainey

After President Donald Trump asked why the United States would want people from "shithole countries," referring to Haiti and those in Africa, Judelande Calix of Maryland had a query of her own.

"My question is, why not?" said Calix, who is in her mid-30s and came to the United States from Haiti in the late 1990s.

Calix went to college; her husband, Marc, also from Haiti, is a neurophysiologist, and "countless" other people they know are immigrants who are contributing to this country, she said Thursday in a phone interview.

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#1512343 --- 01/12/18 02:01 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Democrats were quick to denounce President Donald Trump after reports that he referred to Haiti and some African nations as “shithole countries” while discussing immigration reform with lawmakers at the White House.

Most Republicans, on the other hand, were notably silent on the president’s shockingly vulgar remark, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and GOP chair Ronna McDaniel.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) called Trump’s comments “very unfortunate” and Sen. Marco Rubio posted a long Twitter thread about the many ways Haitians have made an impact in the U.S.

But by Friday morning, long after Trump reportedly asked, “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here,” most GOP lawmakers had still not said anything publicly about the president’s racially charged remark. He was said to have made the comment when lawmakers pressed to restore protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and multiple African nations.

Rep. Mia Love was one of the first Republicans in Congress to issue an official statement demanding the president apologize. Love made history in 2014, when she became the first Haitian-American woman and first black Republican woman elected to Congress.

“This behavior is unacceptable from the leader of our nation,” Love, whose parents immigrated from Haiti to the U.S., said in a statement Thursday.

“My parents came from one of those countries but proudly took the oath of allegiance to the United States and took on the responsibilities of everything that being a citizen comes with,” she added. “They never took a thing from our federal government.”

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#1512344 --- 01/12/18 02:01 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.)

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen took to her local media to air frustrations with Trump’s comments. She tweeted: “The president calling #Haiti a ‘shithole country’ ignores the contributions thousands of Haitians made to our #SoFla community and nation.”

She later told CBS Miami that “no country deserves to be called a ’shithole.” Speaking to WSVN 7 news, Ros-Lehtinen said that Trump “needs to understand that lives are at stake when he makes such reckless comments.” According to her tweets, she invoked an inscription on the Statue of Liberty: ”‘Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,’ not ‘go back to your shithole.’”

She told Univision 23 Miami, a Spanish-language news channel, that Trump’s comments on Haiti “do not reflect our country.”

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#1512345 --- 01/12/18 02:04 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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It’s Time to Censure Trump for ‘Conduct Unbecoming’ of a President

There is a way to punish President Trump for his ignorant, racist words without resorting to impeachment. He should be censured by Congress.

On Dec. 28, Army Pvt. Emmanuel Mensah rushed twice into a burning building in the Bronx and rescued four people. On his third trip in, he died. Mensah was from Ghana, one of President Trump’s “shithole countries.”

Trump’s comment was racist: He was referring only to countries with dark-skinned people. That makes the Fox News blowhards who endorse it racists, too.

It was stupid: We need the help of those nations to fight terrorism and pursue other national interests. Trump just did another huge favor for China, which is already moving aggressively in Africa.

And it was un-American: Immigrants from dysfunctional countries, including those like Trump’s grandfather, who came from impoverished Germany in 1886, built the United States. You can look it up.

Another thing to research: Article 133 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. All senior U.S. military personnel—including women— are subject to a court martial for “conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman.” Such conduct includes dishonest, indecent, cruel and dishonorable acts. Article 133 charges require no proof of law-breaking. They can be brought for merely “indecorous” behavior, which means acting like an asinine ignoramus.

If the commander in chief were down a few rungs in the chain of command, he would have been court-martialed months ago for “conduct unbecoming,” just as President Clinton would have been court-martialed in 1998 for having sex with a White House intern. It goes without saying that if either president were a mere CEO of a publicly traded corporation, he would have been tossed out on his ear.

But just because the president can’t be impeached (at least not yet), court-martialed or fired doesn’t mean he can’t be punished. It’s time to stop wringing our hands. There are remedies that lie between removal from office and doing nothing.

The best short-term remedy is censure by both Houses of Congress, a move that would begin the essential process of checking Trump.

Andrew Jackson—whose painting Steve Bannon told Trump to hang in the Oval Office—is the only president ever censured (for not turning over certain bank documents). Senator Joe McCarthy was censured in 1954 for dishonoring the Senate with his anti-Communist character assassination, which was engineered by Trump’s mentor, Roy Cohn. Censure is what I and a lot of other people argued was the right punishment for Bill Clinton in the Monica Lewinsky case. It wasn’t enough for Republicans who backed impeachment—some of the same Republicans (I’m looking at you, Orrin Hatch) who today think Trump is “one of the best” presidents.

So why would those Trump enablers censure him over this? They probably won’t. They didn’t when three House Democrats introduced a censure motion after Trump said “both sides” were to blame after neo-Nazis marched in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August.

But some big things have changed since Charlottesville. The implications of another international incident for our standing in the world are clearer now. And GOP incumbents are running scared, with 31 members so far announcing they’re leaving their House seats. That’s seven more than the 24 seats Democrats need to take control in November. Even Republicans know that bigotry is not a good look in an election year.

Could Trump walk back his line? Not likely. Roy Cohn gave him two pieces of advice: Retaliate against your enemies times 10 and never say you’re sorry. The only time on record when he apologized was for the Access Hollywood tape—and he rescinded it late last year with the claim that it wasn’t his voice on the tape with Billy Bush. Even his fanboys couldn’t swallow that one.

With no apology forthcoming, every Republican member of Congress will (or at least should) be asked by their local reporters whether the president owes one. It will be hard for many of them to say no, or to explain to their constituents why the remark was OK. The issue would be further crystallized if Democrats threaten to boycott the Jan. 30 State of the Union Address—a possibility, I’m told by congressional staffers, should no other remedy materialize.

White House aides are apparently already claiming that “shithole countries” is playing well with Trump’s anti-immigrant, anti-PC base. But it’s bound to play horribly with the much larger combination of Democrats and independents. For that not-so-Silent Majority, failure to pursue this matter in some fashion is not an option.

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#1512346 --- 01/12/18 02:15 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Sen. Orrin Hatch, who is president pro tempore of the Senate and generally has a good relationship with Trump, called for more information Thursday night.

"Part of what makes America so special is that we welcome the best and brightest in the world, regardless of their country of origin," he said.

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#1512347 --- 01/12/18 02:16 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Sen. Dianne Feinstein,the top ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee which handles immigration legislation, said Trump shouldn't be president if he "can’t control himself and lead this country with the authority, dignity and leadership it requires."

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#1512348 --- 01/12/18 02:27 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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FROM FOX NEWS!

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/01/12/di...rump-could-lead

None of the Republican lawmakers who were at the meeting have backed up Trump's denials.

Fellow Illinois Democrat Rep. Luis Gutierrez blasted Trump in an interview Thursday, calling Trump's remarks "vile" and "racist."

"We now know that we have in the White House someone who could lead the Ku Klux Klan in the United States of America, somebody who could be the leader of the neo-Nazis — and publish just his words," he said on MSNBC.

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#1512350 --- 01/12/18 02:40 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Hillary Clinton
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1h1 hour ago

The anniversary of the devastating earthquake 8 years ago is a day to remember the tragedy, honor the resilient people of Haiti, & affirm America’s commitment to helping our neighbors. Instead, we‘re subjected to Trump’s ignorant, racist views of anyone who doesn’t look like him

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#1512351 --- 01/12/18 02:42 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Keith Olbermann
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More lies, @realDonaldTrump. You’re a coward and a weakling, too terrified to face protestors there or here. And you should be. We will remove you, and put you and your Shithole Family in the prison you deserve.

And BUSH made the embassy change, not Obama

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#1512352 --- 01/12/18 02:43 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos and his wife, MacKenzie, are donating $33 million to send 1,000 Dreamers to college http://cnn.it/2Ezh3So

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#1512353 --- 01/12/18 02:43 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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4h4 hours ago

JUST IN: Pres. Trump does not respond when asked during an event honoring MLK if he described African nations with the term "shithole," if he will apologize and if he is a racist. http://nbcnews.to/2CVBh8m

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#1512354 --- 01/12/18 02:45 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Bernie Sanders
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5h5 hours ago

My dad came from what I guess Trump would call a "shithole" country. He was able to come to the U.S. and became a very proud American.

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