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#1512331 --- 01/12/18 08:03 AM Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report
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Moody’s report: Negative outlook for del Lago

Moody’s Investor Services has downgraded del Lago’s Corporate Family Rating to a negative outlook. Analysts say the resort and casino is about $100M short of expected goal citing too many other casinos close to them. Moody’s is a global provider for financial research on bonds issued by commercial and government entities.

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#1512337 --- 01/12/18 11:28 AM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: newsman38]
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And the Oneidas are about to open another casino near Syracuse March 1st
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#1512338 --- 01/12/18 01:05 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: newsman38]
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The bad idea that became the next big thing has begun the death spiral

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#1512339 --- 01/12/18 01:52 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
And the Oneidas are about to open another casino near Syracuse March 1st
The idea that upstate NY could support this many casinos is pathetic and is now coming home to roast as I predicted since it was first proposed.
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#1512367 --- 01/12/18 03:31 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: kyle585]
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Only made 150 million. Practically starving. We are getting 125,000 more vehicles off the thruway exit monthly. This isn't a small addition to the county.

Patrons need to stop visiting NA casinos... This is the Gov Cuomo's effort to fight them at their own game.

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#1512370 --- 01/12/18 04:13 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Only made 150 million. Practically starving. We are getting 125,000 more vehicles off the thruway exit monthly. This isn't a small addition to the county.

Patrons need to stop visiting NA casinos... This is the Gov Cuomo's effort to fight them at their own game.

Apparently, people have instead decided to stop visiting del Lago. grin
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#1512372 --- 01/12/18 05:24 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Timbo]
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I picture Native Americans of the past as a proud people. Fierce warriors and families living a simple life of hunting and fishing.

So what about their ancestors in today's world? Are they farmers and fishermen? Maybe work with their hands like Amish and Mennonites on simple projects? No they are into two of the least desirable businesses that exist today in my opinion: gambling and cigarettes. I think their ancestors would be appalled.
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#1512373 --- 01/12/18 05:54 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Only made 150 million. Practically starving. We are getting 125,000 more vehicles off the thruway exit monthly. This isn't a small addition to the county.

Patrons need to stop visiting NA casinos... This is the Gov Cuomo's effort to fight them at their own game.

Apparently, people have instead decided to stop visiting del Lago. grin


Sorry. But it means less than projected. A projected number that probably can't be met with the current traffic flow available to visit the facility. 125,000 more vehicles a month at the exit is a fact.

It will be fine. Not as big as promised.

Indians are jealous and angry.

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#1512377 --- 01/13/18 02:49 AM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Indians are jealous and angry.
I am jealous of the Indians who do all this without paying taxes.
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#1512379 --- 01/13/18 02:53 AM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Indians are jealous and angry.

I submit that from the sound of your post, that it is you who is. whistle
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#1512380 --- 01/13/18 02:54 AM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
So what about their ancestors in today's world?

I'll give you one guess why that might be. whistle
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#1512382 --- 01/13/18 10:37 AM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Timbo]
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125,000 cars a month coming to our casino. Not yours.

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#1512389 --- 01/13/18 11:15 AM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
125,000 cars a month coming to our casino. Not yours.

Not MY casinos. I have no use for them. I don't care who owns them.

Nor are those figures even relevant.
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#1512399 --- 01/13/18 12:50 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Timbo]
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Doesn't matter if it is relevant to you. Money out of the pockets of NA casinos. Relevant to me.

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#1512414 --- 01/13/18 05:10 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Top Dog]
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As I said... "jealous and angry".

I guess we can add "petty" to that list, as well.
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#1512416 --- 01/13/18 05:44 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Timbo]
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Thankful that I am not on your side.

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#1512418 --- 01/13/18 05:49 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: newsman38]
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Should have found a way to deal with the Cayugas long, long ago. They will always be here. The approach that has been applied has failed miserably.

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#1512427 --- 01/14/18 04:20 AM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
Should have found a way to deal with the Cayugas long, long ago. They will always be here. The approach that has been applied has failed miserably.
You are so right.
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#1512437 --- 01/14/18 02:07 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
Should have found a way to "DEAL WITH" the Cayugas long, long ago.

What... genocide not good enough for you? eek
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#1512439 --- 01/14/18 03:18 PM Re: Negative outlook for del Lago: Moody’s report [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
They will always be here. The approach that has been applied has failed miserably.

Not for lack of trying though, right? eek
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