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#1511910 --- 01/04/18 01:49 PM E - Waste
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for those that have e-waste (electronic waste) check the local salvation army as they should be able to dispose of it

many people will get rid of their old electronics after the holidays

if it works they should take it - to be reused

if it does not work they should take - to be properly recycled
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#1511935 --- 01/05/18 01:43 AM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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But do they WANT it?
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#1511943 --- 01/05/18 08:02 AM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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Seneca Meadows has an e-waste drop off.
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#1511947 --- 01/05/18 12:05 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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Yes, the Salvation Army takes electronics, cords too, to be recycled. I took a desktop computer there recently, after having removed the hard drive. Now how do I get the hard drive open? You need a special kind of tool. Anyone know what it's called?
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#1511955 --- 01/05/18 12:56 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: MissingArty]
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Originally Posted By: MissingArty
Yes, the Salvation Army takes electronics, cords too, to be recycled. I took a desktop computer there recently, after having removed the hard drive. Now how do I get the hard drive open? You need a special kind of tool. Anyone know what it's called?

You likely mean a Torx security tool. Why are you trying to open the HD?
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#1511974 --- 01/05/18 04:44 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
But do they WANT it?


the useable items can be resold

believe the recyclable items get sold to recycle centers to remove the silver, gold, platinum, brass, copper, lithium, palladium... and other usable materials

believe they just collect it and it is sold by the pound to a recycle center

must be why they call it recycling wink

even though there may be small amounts in one unit it can add up

gold at around $1300 per ounce
platinum at around $1400 per ounce

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#1511977 --- 01/05/18 05:15 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: MissingArty]
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Originally Posted By: MissingArty
after having removed the hard drive. Now how do I get the hard drive open?


do you want to destroy the data and throw away the hard drive?

a hammer, sledge hammer, baseball bat, golf club, glock 9mm, ak47, m80, cast iron pan, brick, c4 explosive, repeatedly drop any heavy object on it... grin

wear safety glasses

or roll over it with a car tire
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#1511995 --- 01/06/18 01:28 AM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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OR...

you can simply use the easy-to run "FBI-level overwrite and encoding function" that comes preinstalled on almost every PC, Mac or Linux distro made in the past 15 years or so.

Smashing/drilling/wrecking/incinerating a hard drive to prevent personal information from getting into the wrong hands, not only doesn't really work, but will send a cloud of lead and other toxic "goodies" flying up into the air. Encrypted overwritting with pseudorandom data is the only forensic-proof procedure readily available to assure wiping the magnetic microstructure. Don't believe me? Just shatter your drive platters into bits and in two days anyone with some basic (and inexpensive) forensic hardware can recover about half of the files.

Ghost images and data fragments are insanely easy to recover. Even software shredding doesn't touch the hidden partition area. It doesn't matter if you roll over it with an Army tank. At least a microwave oven can wipe MOST of the data.

We can make it interesting and put some money on it.

Any Takers? smirk
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#1512002 --- 01/06/18 07:52 AM Re: E - Waste [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
OR...

you can simply use the easy-to run "FBI-level overwrite and encoding function"



OR...

call hillary she can 'wipe' it with a rag... grin

Quote:
Hillary Wipes Server with BleachBit Software
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#1512003 --- 01/06/18 07:57 AM Re: E - Waste [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
will send a cloud of lead and other toxic "goodies" flying up into the air.


does the hard drive have a toxic label on it?



Originally Posted By: Timbo
forensic-proof procedure readily available to assure wiping the magnetic microstructure.


use a magnet to damage the data
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#1512016 --- 01/06/18 10:18 AM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
does the hard drive have a toxic label on it?

Irrelevant, since hard drives aren't considered user-serviceable. If you think Palladium is non-toxic, then you're certifiably deranged.

Originally Posted By: bluezone
use a magnet to damage the data

The only "magnets" powerful enough to sucessfully wipe data have to be safely contained within a lead-lined room. Unless of course, you like getting 20 years worth of chest X-Rays all at once. Hand-held/desktop units are mostly useless.
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#1512017 --- 01/06/18 10:30 AM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Hillary Wipes Server with BleachBit Software

1) BleachBit does not work properly. Not even close.
https://www.bleachbit.org/forum/bleachbit-wipe-free-disk-space-doesnt-work
https://askubuntu.com/questions/747639/bleachbit-not-working-properly

2) Hillary didn't "wipe" ANY DATA. That was done by her IT team upon their own decision.

3) You have no clue as to what you're talking about.
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#1512037 --- 01/06/18 04:05 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
since hard drives aren't considered user-serviceable.


must be you never reset a hard drive reader head

Originally Posted By: Timbo

The only "magnets" powerful enough to sucessfully wipe data have to be safely contained within a lead-lined room.


so when the hard drive writes over prior data it is a 'powerful' magnet in a lead lined room (all inside that small hard drive unit)... grin
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#1512041 --- 01/06/18 04:15 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
1) BleachBit does not work properly.

you should have told hillary grin


Originally Posted By: Timbo
2) Hillary didn't "wipe" ANY DATA. That was done by her IT team upon their own decision.


were you there?

Originally Posted By: Timbo
3) You have no clue as to what you're talking about.


no talking all typing.. whistle
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#1512054 --- 01/06/18 05:13 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
The only "magnets" powerful enough to


crazy

must by why it is wise to ground yourself and any tools that you use when opening up and working on a hard drive

static electricity will erase data
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#1512065 --- 01/06/18 07:06 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
since hard drives aren't considered user-serviceable.
must be you never reset a hard drive reader head
Originally Posted By: Timbo
The only "magnets" powerful enough to sucessfully wipe data have to be safely contained within a lead-lined room.
so when the hard drive writes over prior data it is a 'powerful' magnet in a lead lined room (all inside that small hard drive unit)... grin

Are you a troll, an imbecile or both?
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#1512066 --- 01/06/18 07:07 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
The only "magnets" powerful enough to
crazy
must by why it is wise to ground yourself and any tools that you use when opening up and working on a hard drive

static electricity will erase data

OK... both, it is. crazy
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#1512112 --- 01/07/18 09:46 AM Re: E - Waste [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Are you a troll, an imbecile or both?


the usual 5 year old response from you

have a pleasant day grin
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#1512128 --- 01/07/18 11:51 AM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Are you a troll, an imbecile or both?

the usual 5 year old response from you

Everything that's old is new again. So, if the straitjacket fits...
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#1512129 --- 01/07/18 12:01 PM Re: E - Waste [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
The only "magnets" powerful enough to sucessfully wipe data have to be safely contained within a lead-lined room.

must by why it is wise to ground yourself and any tools that you use when opening up and working on a hard drive

Wow!!! You open up your hard drives to work on them? Must be you have a 3-stage cleanroom laboratory and noble gas chambers in which to do that. crazy

And FYI... Drive heads don't "wipe" DATA. They overwrite DATA. There's an entirely non-semantic difference between the two.
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