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#1510690 --- 12/12/17 06:55 AM Fake News
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If the mainstream media could devote just one-tenth the energy to fact-checking that they do to wailing indignantly about President Trump’s accusing them of spreading “fake news,” maybe they wouldn’t be spreading so much fake news. This past week brought such a silo of fake news, I’m stunned they managed to get it all out so fast without renting a John Deere manure spreader.

In the space of just seven days, media outlets managed to befoul their own reputations multiple times. To hit just the highlights: Brian Ross of ABC got barred from ever covering Trump again by falsely claiming that Trump ordered Mike Flynn to contact the Russians before the election (it was afterward.) Then the New York Times claimed that an email proved former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland lied about Russia helping Trump win (it didn’t.) There was a false report that Robert Mueller subpoenaed Trump’s Deutsch Bank loan records. Then on Friday, CNN went wall-to-wall with a “bombshell” story claiming that Donald Trump Jr. received an email on September 4th of last year, offering him advance access to WikiLeaks’ trove of DNC emails. But the bombshell blew up in their faces when it was revealed that the email was actually sent on September 14th, one day after WikiLeaks released the emails publicly, so it wasn’t advance notice at all.

CNN says the reporter will not be disciplined because he followed proper procedures in citing multiple (unnamed, of course) sources. It’s not his fault that all his sources were totally unreliable and he couldn’t be bothered to double-check using resources readily available to anyone online. And they admit this is their standard procedure! Yet they get furious when Trump calls them “fake news.”


Held up in an Ecuadorian embassy in London, Julian Assange remains editor in chief of the global whistleblowing website, Wikileaks. On Friday, the founder of the company has challenged CBS to a friendly wager.

Assange has put $100,000 on the table if CBS can prove they are not fake news. Recently the broadcasting station has put out a story that claims the Trump family has close ties with the fugitive.

Assange took to Twitter to criticize the conglomerate. The most recent story Assange is referring to is a tale of collusion. CBS claims Wikileaks offered Donald Trump Jr. with exclusive early access to leaked documents in September of 2016.

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#1510691 --- 12/12/17 07:07 AM Re: Fake News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/...les-fake-photo/

President Trump blasted the left-wing Washington Post’s Dave Weigel after the reporter taunted him with a fake photograph that falsely depicted a mostly empty auditorium at the president’s Friday night rally. After receiving an apology, the president said Weigel “should be fired.”

Although everyone knows (and any exceptions do not include political journalists) that Trump’s Friday night rally in Pensacola, Florida, was another jam-packed event with a near-capacity crowd of 12,000, Weigel appeared to be under the impression that the media has not already suffered enough of a black eye this week.

There is no other way to explain why Weigel would use his verified Twitter account to openly taunt Trump with photographic fake news:

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#1510694 --- 12/12/17 08:00 AM Re: Fake News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/11/the-russia-investigation-circus-is-over-will-there-be-a-parade/
The Russia Investigation Circus Is Over. Will There Be A Parade?

John Linder

You will recall that former Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper, today’s P.T. Barnum, set the stage for this circus when he claimed that the intelligence Community was unanimous in its assessment that Russia influenced the election. For months the Democrats and the media — but I repeat myself — told us that 17 intelligence agencies agreed. They did not, of course. The only agencies involved were the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency — and the NSA had only moderate confidence in the estimate.

Later Clapper admitted that the conclusion was not even arrived at by the agencies, but by a handful of selected players in these agencies.

I’m willing to bet that the FBI’s head of counterintelligence, Peter Strzok, was one of those players.

This entire narrative rests on the assertion that Russia hacked the Democrat National Committee computer server and released, over the course of the campaign, emails that put Mrs. Clinton in a bad light.

How do we know that? Why, we took the word of the private company hired by the DNC attorneys who told us that.

We have the most competent criminal investigators in the world. They have grand jury and subpoena powers and are employing all of it against President Trump, his children and his associates.

Did they employ those vast powers to get access to the DNC server and discover for themselves whether it was Russia, or perhaps a disgruntled employee, who actually got access to the emails?

NOPE!

What else did the DNC lawyers arrange? Why, they arranged launder millions of dollars from the Clinton campaign and the DNC to pay Fusion GPS to produce a dossier full of salacious charges against Trump. They paid Russians. It was arguably illegal. This dossier has been in the hands of much of the media and our vaunted intelligence services for over a year and none has yet been able to verify the charges.

(Has the Special Counsel verified them? NOPE!)

All circuses, of course, have a tiny car full of clowns.

First came Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr who met secretly with the authors of the bogus dossier. He kept this secret from his bosses. I wonder why?

(Is the Special Counsel looking into that? NOPE!)

Then, climbing out from under the hood came Andrew Weissmann, whose past history of prosecutorial misconduct clearly earned him a starring role in this circus. He sent his fawning congratulations to the Acting Attorney General for flagrantly refusing to carry out a presidential order that her own legal counsel determined was a legal order. Weissman’s anti-Trump bona fides are in fine shape too.

Then came the head clown, Peter Strzok, who found the time to text his mistress thousands of times while helping FBI Director Jim Comey write a memo that exonerated Mrs. Clinton in the email investigation before she was even interviewed.

Strzok then interviewed Mrs. Clinton without putting her under oath. No notes exist. He allowed co-conspirator, Cheryl Mills to sit in on the interview playing the role of Mrs. Clinton’s attorney.

Strzok had already interviewed Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin who both told him that they were unaware that Mrs. Clinton had a private server though there are emails from them referring to it and Abedin had her own email address on it. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Strzok sandbagged Michael Flynn into an interview that Flynn did not need to participate in, but Strzok concluded that Flynn told the truth.

In the center ring breaking down doors and intimidating American citizens was none other than the ringmaster, Bob Mueller, who decided months after Strzok interviewed Flynn that he needed a scalp. He overruled the person actually in the room for the interview and decided that Flynn lied after all.

We will soon discover what else the loquacious Peter Strzok had to say in 10,000 texts. It was more than just the admission that he, like the rest of the clowns, was a Democrat. That wouldn’t even be newsworthy. What if we learn that he repackaged the bogus dossier as an FBI intelligence document in order to get a FISA warrant to spy on Trump’s associates?

If our government misrepresented Democrat opposition research as an FBI intelligence document in order to get a warrant to spy on Trump associates and failed to disclose that to the grand jury which indicted them, the entire chain of events is as bogus as the dossier and will be thrown out of court by an angry judge.

They need to gently and mercifully strike the tent. There will be a parade. It will be the abused friends of Trump marching up to the ticket window get their legal fees back.

The other parade will be heading out of town. That guy with the shovel following the elephants and Peter Strzok is Bob Mueller.

John Linder is a former member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Georgia.

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#1510697 --- 12/12/17 08:49 AM Re: Fake News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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The Russian investigation is just starting to gear up contrary to your wishful thinking. The fact that 4 men have been arrested and two pleading guilty exacerbates the problem for middle surrogates up to Trump himself....but you already know this and to elicit any other factor is only a game of desperate diversion. wink

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#1510706 --- 12/12/17 12:09 PM Re: Fake News [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The Russian investigation is just starting to gear up contrary to your wishful thinking. The fact that 4 men have been arrested and two pleading guilty exacerbates the problem for middle surrogates up to Trump himself....but you already know this and to elicit any other factor is only a game of desperate diversion. wink

"Pay NO attention to the man behind the curtain!!!" grin

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#1510713 --- 12/12/17 01:34 PM Re: Fake News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Taken from "Bullying" thread:

Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Kyle I agree that compromise has been considered bad. Be it state or federal, the legislatures work more for the majority and minority leaders than their own constituents. Opposing views give a small balance and aren’t always 100% fake but the media, all media, has been caught repeatedly publishing fake news that gets repeated.

Just as long as we remain cogent of the fact that opposing views do not necessarily warrant equal consideration. Fairness is one thing, balance is something altogether different. Nor do "Bad" views deserve balanced considerations. Sometimes compromise is one-sided in the interest of serving the greater good.

Another thing to keep in mind, is that errors in reporting are NOT fake news. Repetition of such errors are the product of lazy or careless journalism and lazy consumers of news. "Fake News" is, by definition, intentional and the "media" is not to be compared to legitimate news outlets. NOT "all" news services disseminate "fake news" as you appear to be suggesting (nor does all 'media' for that matter).
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#1510718 --- 12/12/17 02:22 PM Re: Fake News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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#1510719 --- 12/12/17 02:25 PM Re: Fake News [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga

Forgetting the long stream of them puking from FOX "News", are you?

You've got some nerve, Pal.
whistle

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_controversies
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#1510736 --- 12/12/17 03:48 PM Re: Fake News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Anything and everything I personally disagree with is "fake news".
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#1510744 --- 12/12/17 05:48 PM Re: Fake News [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The Russian investigation is just starting to gear up contrary to your wishful thinking. The fact that 4 men have been arrested and two pleading guilty exacerbates the problem for middle surrogates up to Trump himself....but you already know this and to elicit any other factor is only a game of desperate diversion. wink


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The Russian investigation is just starting to gear up contrary to your wishful thinking.


Really! Please show something other than your opinion.

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The fact that 4 men have been arrested and two pleading guilty



What were the Charges?

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#1510745 --- 12/12/17 06:33 PM Re: Fake News [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Formermac
The Russian investigation is just starting to gear up contrary to your wishful thinking. The fact that 4 men have been arrested and two pleading guilty exacerbates the problem for middle surrogates up to Trump himself....but you already know this and to elicit any other factor is only a game of desperate diversion. wink

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The Russian investigation is just starting to gear up contrary to your wishful thinking.
Really! Please show something other than your opinion.

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The fact that 4 men have been arrested and two pleading guilty
What were the Charges?
You don't know what the charges are? Are you really that ignorant of what is going in the political world? OMG
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#1510746 --- 12/12/17 06:38 PM Re: Fake News [Re: kyle585]
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Michael Flynn has pled guilty to a felony and is cooperating with Mueller for reduced prison time.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/01/muellers-office-announces-flynn-will-plead-guilty-274349

Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI

The charge brings the criminal case into the Trump White House and raises questions about who else in the administration Mueller could be eyeing.

By JOSH GERSTEIN, MATTHEW NUSSBAUM and THEODORIC MEYER

12/01/2017 09:30 AM EST

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty on Friday to one felony count of lying to the FBI about conversations he had with Russia’s ambassador last year, bringing the special counsel’s investigation into the 2016 election deeper into President Donald Trump’s inner circle.
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#1510826 --- 12/14/17 03:30 AM Re: Fake News [Re: Wolf King]
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Originally Posted By: Wolf King
Anything and everything I personally disagree with is "fake news".
wink
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#1510857 --- 12/14/17 12:45 PM Re: Fake News [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
The Russian investigation is just starting to gear up contrary to your wishful thinking. The fact that 4 men have been arrested and two pleading guilty exacerbates the problem for middle surrogates up to Trump himself....but you already know this and to elicit any other factor is only a game of desperate diversion. wink

The only gearing up has nothing to do with any fake news Trump Russian collusion. But there might be a connection to Hillary.

Tony Podesta, the brother of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, and his lobbying firm are also now a subject in Mueller’s investigations because of the firm’s involvement with Manafort’s PR campaign for a Russian pro-Ukraine group.

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#1510860 --- 12/14/17 01:00 PM Re: Fake News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Fake news, Mr.Mueller is in no rush to connect the all the dots which is all the reason that 4 arrests and 2 indictments are factual. Now for reality explain Trump Jr. being question along with 2 indictments being utilized for further indictments? Mueller's unknown position is the very reason you're here attempting to surmise a defense before you know the questions.......trump will fall before 2018 is ended but you know that much don't you? your Obama/Hillary talk won't delay the destruction in the least. wink matter of fact, Mueller's is smart enough to question the obvious, why all the push back of getting to the bottom of this investigation? you know that answer as well.

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#1510862 --- 12/14/17 01:08 PM Re: Fake News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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The quickest way to clear up one's guilt is to put all your cards on the table and shortened the agony but you can also prolong the agony by attempting to avoid the obvious......... guilt. As stated ,2 men are doing some serious talking to avoid jail time....if I were a fly on the wall, I would say that two are talking fast and furious while others are sweating bullets. My Nephew being a law officer has it so right, the most obvious culprits will viciously start the blame game by stating "How about him/her and they did such & such" He'll patiently allow them to state their case and when they're done, he will respond in an calming manner "yes I hear you but for the time being, I got you"
But but but you say Rich?

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#1510884 --- 12/15/17 03:29 AM Re: Fake News [Re: Formermac]
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FAKE NEWS! GOD IS A BLACK WOMAN! ROY MOORE DOESN'T KNOW THE ELECTION IS OVER! ROY MOORE HAS LESS CLASS THAN ANYONE I KNOW EXCEPT DONALD TRUMP.

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Roy Moore won’t concede; says will wait on God to speak. God wasn’t registered to vote in AL but the ppl who voted did speak and it wasn’t close enough for recount. In elections everyone does NOT get a trophy. I know first hand but it’s best to exit with class.
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#1510886 --- 12/15/17 03:52 AM Re: Fake News [Re: kyle585]
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From Breitbart where I get a lot of my news. grin

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/12/13/j-k-rowling-god-is-black-woman/

J.K. Rowling
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Narrator's voice: Roy was right. God was in control. What he didn't realise was, She's black. https://twitter.com/cnn/status/940804210328834049
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#1510887 --- 12/15/17 03:54 AM Re: Fake News [Re: kyle585]
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Bill Cummings‏ @unclemartini
Dec 12
Replying to @CNN

Nope. God has left the building and is over at the Doug Jones victory party.
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#1510888 --- 12/15/17 03:55 AM Re: Fake News [Re: kyle585]
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Rayne E. Dazes‏ @Red_Dazes
Dec 13

No no no, ya got it alllll wrong. See they say god is in control when good things happen, or when they HOPE something will happen. But the evil they do? That’s all the devils fault. They can’t be accountable for their own actions. No sir.
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