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#1510430 --- 12/06/17 07:14 PM Trump Impeachment
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https://ilovemyfreedom.org/breaking-house-makes-364-48-decision-impeachment/

Democrats suffer embarrassing 364-58 LOSS in Trump impeachment vote!!!

At the time, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders called the effort “pathetic.”
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#1510431 --- 12/06/17 07:22 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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You are just that clueless son, reread a major headline story adverse to your ILOVEMYFREEDOM.com, some of the Democrats SIDED with the Republicans, secondly to have any president in a position of talking impeachment is more embarrassing. I love how your article shows your ignorance since there are 435 seats, thus are you saying that 360 plus seats are all Republican?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/12/house-impeachment-vote-goes-down-big.html

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#1510434 --- 12/06/17 08:57 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
You are just that clueless son, reread a major headline story adverse to your ILOVEMYFREEDOM.com, some of the Democrats SIDED with the Republicans, secondly to have any president in a position of talking impeachment is more embarrassing. I love how your article shows your ignorance since there are 435 seats, thus are you saying that 360 plus seats are all Republican?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/12/house-impeachment-vote-goes-down-big.html



Why are you so nasty to Mr. Tallcot, master For....?

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#1510435 --- 12/06/17 09:10 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: ThomasDecker]
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That's not nasty son, I'm returning a corrected and reputable version of a trash web sites....maybe your biggest problem son, you like trash?
Why are you so ignorant and spend 99% of your time off topic? answer those questions and I'll try and be nicer OK? wink

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#1510436 --- 12/07/17 05:50 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/opinions/trump-global-trust-lost-opinion-ghitis/index.html

I can understand the continued support of Trump from some voters, what does a man do when he was constantly warned about a wayward and nasty girl but married her anyways? only to find out that they were right. Suffer with it and pray that she will get her act together.

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#1510457 --- 12/07/17 02:22 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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How disgusting is that our president talks more highly of Putin than our FBI?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/07/christopher-wray-fbi-oversight-hearing-285956?lo=ap_d1

FBI Director Christopher Wray on Thursday rejected President Donald Trump’s claim that the law enforcement agency’s reputation is “in tatters.”

“There is no shortage of opinions out there,” Wray said, without mentioning the president, during a House Judiciary Committee hearing after he was asked about Trump’s statement. “The FBI that I see is people, decent people, committed to the highest principles of dignity and professionalism and respect.”

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#1510458 --- 12/07/17 03:29 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Wray's testimony comes after is was revealed top FBI investigator Peter Strzok, who worked for Special Counsel Robert Mueller before being reassigned, texted anti-Trump, pro-Hillary messages to his alleged mistress. Strzok worked on the Clinton email investigation, changed the language in former FBI Director James Comey's exoneration statement of Hillary Clinton to avoid criminality and interviewed former White House National Security Advisor Mike Flynn, who just pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI last week.

The Inspector General has launched an investigation into the situation to verify whether political bias impacted the FBI's criminal investigation into Clinton and the ultimate decision not to refer her for prosecution.

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#1510464 --- 12/07/17 04:39 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
How disgusting is that our president talks more highly of Putin than our FBI?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/07/christopher-wray-fbi-oversight-hearing-285956?lo=ap_d1

FBI Director Christopher Wray on Thursday rejected President Donald Trump’s claim that the law enforcement agency’s reputation is “in tatters.”

“There is no shortage of opinions out there,” Wray said, without mentioning the president, during a House Judiciary Committee hearing after he was asked about Trump’s statement. “The FBI that I see is people, decent people, committed to the highest principles of dignity and professionalism and respect.”


We do know for a certain who's reputation is in tatters but he hypocritically blame his problems on others.

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#1510465 --- 12/07/17 04:48 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
That's not nasty son, I'm returning a corrected and reputable version of a trash web sites....maybe your biggest problem son, you like trash?
Why are you so ignorant and spend 99% of your time off topic? answer those questions and I'll try and be nicer OK? wink


Why are you so ignorant and spend 99% of your time off topic?

Now you're being nasty to me, master For....Why?

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#1510477 --- 12/08/17 02:27 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Chris Hayes Retweeted
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Watch: “It’s been 425 days since Donald Trump admitted to being a sexual predator — and he’s still there.” -Shareblue Media exec @jess_mc
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#1510478 --- 12/08/17 02:36 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/donald-trump-latest-approval-rating-impeachment-odds/

by Patrick Scott and Ashley Kirk 6 December 2017 • 9:27am

As it stands impeachment is still unlikely because it would require a majority in the House of Representatives to go to trial and a two-thirds majority in the Senate to make it happen.

Both the House and the Senate are currently under Republican control, meaning that Trump's party would have to abandon him for him to be kicked out of office.

However, the bookmakers aren't ruling out impeachment with the latest odds from Coral showing that there is a 40 per cent chance Trump will fail to make it to the end of his first term in office.

Their latest odds are as follows:

Impeachment or resignation before 2020: 6/4 (40 per cent chance)
To serve full first term: 4/6 (60 per cent chance)

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#1510498 --- 12/08/17 08:48 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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You do know there isn't going to be any impeachment right Bobby. Don't you ever get tired of having the media constantly lying to you?
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#1510502 --- 12/08/17 09:32 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: The Mechanic]
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Most of us aren't looking for an impeachment sonny boy, the longer he stays, the more corruption he gets grin into...I'm enjoying the show.

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#1510505 --- 12/08/17 09:42 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Most of us aren't looking for an impeachment sonny boy, the longer he stays, the more corruption he gets grin into...I'm enjoying the show.


So all this talk about impeachment isn't about impeachment?

I too have been enjoying the shows. Those shows being the replays of snowflake tears on election night.
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#1510510 --- 12/08/17 10:13 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: The Mechanic]
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Not for me seeing that I neither voted for Trump or Hillary, Bernie was my man. As of today, we get to see in total revelation, why trump lost by 3 million votes and had to steal the electoral which he is more than willing to let Mueller investigate. You need not debate it son, everyday reports reality contrary to your wishful thinking. but but but. wink


http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/e...ents/index.html

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#1510885 --- 12/15/17 03:50 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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From Breitbart.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/12/1...like-trump-did/

On Thursday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “All In,” former Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) argued that former President Bill Clinton was impeached “or a lot less than what it looks like Trump did in his life” and the accusations against President Trump would be cause for impeachment.

Anchor Chris Hayes asked Boxer, “What do you think of this idea that — this growing call to investigate, in some formal way, to use Congressional oversight to investigate the allegations made against the president of the United States?”

She answered, “Well, I gave it a lot of thought and I think it makes sense for the House to do it. Because, you know, the House impeached Bill Clinton for a lot less than what it looks like Trump did in his life, since he admitted it, basically. Woman after woman after woman after woman, and they’re coming forward now. So, you know, it would be a cause for impeachment, so I think it does make sense for them to start some hearings on this subject.”

Hayes then inquired if behavior a president engaged in before taking office would be impeachable.

Boxer responded, “Well, I think because he’s lying about it now, and because he said it on the campaign trail. He said, ‘This is terrible. I’m going to sue all these women.’ So, you could argue that he got elected on false pretense, you know, that he lied about it. So, yeah, I think it’s a whole different standard now. You know, we in government should have a higher standard, and there’s no question in my mind, it’s turned.”

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#1510893 --- 12/15/17 05:51 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Obama suggested that our country is heading down the path toward Communism and guess what, he's absolutely correct. Trump colludes with Russia, he pushed for a Conservative laden FCC to control your rights to the internet,systemically takes your health care away, gives corporate tax breaks at the people's expense, calls the media fake news thus attempts to control what they report, threatens to fire the entity that investigates his wrong doing.
What's ironic, the Conservative claimed that Obama attempted to control us only to turn around and allow a White racist dictator to blatantly screw us with their blessings . Oligarchy anyone?

Need Obama be any clearer?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/08/barack-obama-accused-comparing-donald-trump-hitler/

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#1510945 --- 12/15/17 02:48 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Obama suggested that our country is heading down the path toward Communism and guess what, he's absolutely correct. Trump colludes with Russia, he pushed for a Conservative laden FCC to control your rights to the internet,systemically takes your health care away, gives corporate tax breaks at the people's expense, calls the media fake news thus attempts to control what they report, threatens to fire the entity that investigates his wrong doing.
What's ironic, the Conservative claimed that Obama attempted to control us only to turn around and allow a White racist dictator to blatantly screw us with their blessings . Oligarchy anyone?

Need Obama be any clearer?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/08/barack-obama-accused-comparing-donald-trump-hitler/
That is all quite astonishing when you sum it all up like that.

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#1510958 --- 12/15/17 04:11 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
You are just that clueless son, reread a major headline story adverse to your ILOVEMYFREEDOM.com, some of the Democrats SIDED with the Republicans, secondly to have any president in a position of talking impeachment is more embarrassing. I love how your article shows your ignorance since there are 435 seats, thus are you saying that 360 plus seats are all Republican?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/12/house-impeachment-vote-goes-down-big.html
From the article I posted it states "364 Republicans & Democrats vote AGAINST Rep. Al Green's motion to impeach Trump. 58 Democrats voted to move ahead." Here is your clue: Notice the AND between Republicans and Democrats? Even the Democrats couldn't get a party line vote.

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#1510959 --- 12/15/17 04:17 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Mr. Tallcott, I thought that we had an understanding, I don't deal with people that...shall we say, are dishonest with the state, why would I want to engage with someone with a singular agenda, start trouble and that only? have a great day.

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#1510964 --- 12/15/17 04:34 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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You're either dreaming or having a nightmare and you misspelled my name again. All I did was expose your own cluelessness.

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#1510966 --- 12/15/17 04:38 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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All you've proven was the fact " There's no fool like an old fool" You even took the time to further expose you ignorance by making it personal just as I had assumed you would by going off topic.wink wink

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#1510969 --- 12/15/17 04:46 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
You're either dreaming or having a nightmare and you misspelled my name again. All I did was expose your own cluelessness.

It's useless, "Mac". Reasoning with Rich on these issues is tantamount to playing chess with a pigeon.
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#1510972 --- 12/15/17 05:00 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Timbo]
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Yes I know, for whatever reason, he forgot the fact that the company I worked for 30 plus years, did some upgrades due to a few debacles but he attempts to disassociate himself through a name spelling. Playing chess while utilizing tic-tac-toe tactics. crazy

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#1510986 --- 12/15/17 09:33 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
All you've proven was the fact " There's no fool like an old fool" You even took the time to further expose you ignorance by making it personal just as I had assumed you would by going off topic.wink wink
The only thing personal was your own lack of reading comprehension regarding the vote to NOT impeach. But that’s your own personal problem.

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#1510991 --- 12/16/17 04:08 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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http://www.newsweek.com/tom-steyer-impea...lionaire-703337

By Celeste Katz On 11/7/17

Tom Steyer doesn't know what's going on in Donald Trump's head—and he's not going to try to guess.

"I'll leave it to God to figure out," he said.

Steyer has plenty enough on his plate without adding armchair psychologist duties: The San Francisco progressive is not only waging an eight-figure campaign to get fellow billionaire Trump impeached; he's also playing the long game by trying to mobilize an army of progressive millennials to vote in the 2018 midterms.

"The president is doing some awful things, [and] that's the point we're trying to make in those TV ads: 'Let's come together and stand up against somebody who's doing awful things,'" Steyer told Newsweek in a freewheeling Monday phone interview. "But [I'm] as disturbed by the good things that he's not doing as by the awful things that he is doing."

It's a dramatic moment in tempestuous times: America is a year out from Trump's upset victory and a year away from the midterms that could serve as a referendum on him and the Republican Party.

At this midway point, Democratic mega-donor Steyer is fighting a political war on two fronts.

He's adding to the 1.7 million signatures already on his "Need to Impeach" petition with his straight-to-camera ad, in which he lambastes Trump as a "dangerous president" who's "brought us to the brink of nuclear war." Simultaneously, Steyer's "NextGen Rising" campaign is targeting millennials in a major get out the vote operation in the battleground states of Virginia, California, Florida, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Launched in June and now ramping up with a six-figure ad buy on the web as well as Facebook, Twitter and Snapchat, Steyer's program seeks to mobilize young people with a focus on five sweeping areas: Immigration, health care, climate, civil rights and the economy.

His goal: To register and turn out at least 500,000 progressive young voters for the midterms.

Steyer, an investor turned activist who's worth $1.6 billion according to Forbes, is running the voter drive under the umbrella of his political operation, NextGen America. Separately, he's making headlines not only for where his impeachment ad is on the air in heavy rotation, but for where it isn't: Fox News Channel pulled the spot shortly after Trump slammed Steyer on Twitter as "wacky & totally unhinged."

The father of four, who won't get specific about his own potential political future, doesn't seem convinced he's the wacky one here.

"I mean, good grief! What's the state of the union? The country is barreling along, [but] the government is in deep dysfunction," Steyer told Newsweek. "I think that because the economy is still chugging along and because the stock market is still chugging along and because rates are low, people kind of feel like, 'Well, how bad is it really?'"

Ok, so how bad is it really, then? He rattles off a list like he's reciting the alphabet.

“They tried to get rid of Obamacare. They're about to try and push through corporate tax cuts at the expense of middle-class Americans. They are trying to dismantle every environmental protection that we have. They pulled out of the Paris Treaty. They pulled us out of TPP," said Steyer, who argues that the U.S. is in the throes of a spiritual "crisis" and that Trump is "lowering the tone" of the national debate.

For good measure, “We're in two nuclear confrontations, both of which we created. We're watching hundreds of billions of dollars of climate-related disasters at the same time that the government denies there's any climate issue and [is] refusing to use the words ‘climate change,’” he said.

A White House spokesperson declined comment on Steyer, but Trump's October tweet makes it pretty clear where he stands.

Michael Ahrens, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, told Newsweek via email, “If Democrats want to appease the far left and their liberal mega-donors by supporting a baseless radical effort that the vast majority of Americans disagree with, then have at it. Republicans will continue to focus on issues voters actually care about, like growing our economy and cutting taxes for the middle class.”

Steyer is working the angles with his two-pronged strategy. He probably needs to: While dissatisfaction with Trump is incredibly high, according to polls, the odds of a successful impeachment making it through a Republican-dominated Congress are very low.

Motivating young, progressive voters to flex their political muscle in races for governor, Congress and local offices could be an ideological backstop. It's also tricky: In 2016, Gen X-ers and Baby Boomers still cast more votes than millennials, according to the Pew Research Center, even though the millennial generation is larger in sheer numbers. And while millennials do tend to lean left, they are strongly inclined to identify as independents.

NextGen Rising has already spent more than $10 million to mobilize young voters in 2017, including at Historically Black Colleges and Universities, and will spend "substantially more" in the coming year, though organizers haven't settled on a number.

The campaign hosted "One Year Out" college campus events on Monday in a countdown to the midterms, and says it's put 60 paid workers on the ground and registered more than 20,000 voters in Virginia, where Democrat Ralph Northam has been leading Trump-backed Republican Ed Gillespie in the race for governor.

Steyer boils his 30,000-foot view of the state of politics down to three things: A belief that the U.S. "won't be the most successful country the world by having the biggest bombs or by having the most oil," but by making sure its people prosper; a need for major investment in sustainable energy and infrastructure; and "a need to recommit to accepting each other's full humanity and protecting the rights and dignity of Americans," regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation.

Asked if he had anything to say directly to Trump, Steyer first declined.

Then he reconsidered.

"The only thing I can say to the president is, 'Please sign our petition.'"





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#1511099 --- 12/18/17 10:45 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Trumps emotional stability is like what a 12 year old?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/18/politics/trump-russia-investigation/index.html

Trump predicts exoneration in Russia investigation as allies fear a 'meltdown'

By Jeremy Diamond, Sara Murray and Manu Raju, CNN

President Donald Trump is privately striking a less agitated tone on the Russia investigation, sources say, even insisting he'll soon be cleared in writing. But his new approach has some allies worried he's not taking the threat of the probe seriously enough.
Trump has spent much of his first year in office so enraged by the federal investigation into Russian meddling in last year's election that lawmakers who work with him tried to avoid the issue entirely and his friends worried that Trump might rashly fire the special counsel. But in recent weeks, Trump has privately seemed less frustrated about the investigation, according to multiple sources who have spoken with the President.

There's no indication from special counsel Robert Mueller or his team that the probe is in its final stages. A tipping point in the showdown could come as soon as this week when Trump's private lawyers and Mueller meet, sources familiar with the matter told CNN. Trump's team is hoping to get a clearer sense of Mueller's next steps in the investigation, an assessment that could either pacify Trump or inflame him.

Until those next signs emerge, Trump is boasting to friends and advisers that he expects Mueller to clear him of wrongdoing in the coming weeks, according to sources familiar with the conversations. The President seems so convinced of his impending exoneration that he is telling associates Mueller will soon write a letter clearing him that Trump can brandish to Washington and the world in a bid to finally emerge from the cloud of suspicion that has loomed over the first chapter of his presidency, the sources said.

This account of how Trump and his senior staffers are privately grappling with the Russia investigation is based on interviews over the past week with nearly three dozen White House officials, lawmakers, outside advisers, friends of the President and sources familiar with the Mueller probe. It depicts a president genuinely convinced of his innocence and advisers preparing for him to explode early next year if the probe doesn't end as neatly as Trump expects.
In private conversations, Trump still speaks dismissively of the Russia investigation, referring to it as "bulls---" and proclaiming "I don't know any Russians!" multiple sources told CNN.

But those outbursts are measured against Trump's belief that the investigation will soon wrap up favorably. That rosy picture has buoyed Trump's spirits in recent weeks, leaving him seemingly less frustrated and more even-keeled about the investigation even as Mueller's team landed a guilty plea and the cooperation of one of the President's former top advisers, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.
"The President's mantra is 'All this Russia stuff, it's all going to wrap up soon.' He repeats it as fact," said one source who speaks to Trump. "Part of me is like -- 'Are you serious? You believe this?'"

The President, speaking to reporters at the White House Sunday evening, insisted he wasn't considering firing Mueller. But the pressure on Mueller from Trump's allies is growing. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin told CNN's Jake Tapper Sunday on "State of the Union" that "we've got to get past this investigation."
"It's a giant distraction," he said. "Nobody has said that, in any way, this impacted the outcome of the election."
Meanwhile, lawyers representing the Trump presidential transition wrote to members of Congress accusing Mueller of obtaining unauthorized access to tens of thousands of transition emails, including what they claim to be documents protected by attorney-client privilege. Mueller's spokesman responded that, "When we have obtained emails in the course of our ongoing investigation, we have secured either the account owner's consent or appropriate criminal process."
Worrying about the deadline
Trump's legal team has told the President he will likely be cleared of wrongdoing in the coming months, according to a senior White House official and sources who have spoken with Trump. That optimism has left some of the President's friends and advisers worried the deadline could come and go, leaving Trump frustrated and more prone to rash behavior than ever before, including potentially firing Mueller. A number of Trump's allies have warned him that any attempt to fire Mueller could be a fatal blow to his presidency.
Three sources familiar with the President's recent conversations about the investigation said Trump has become convinced that he will receive a letter of exoneration, which would be unusual. One source worried Trump would have a "meltdown" if that doesn't happen.
"He'll try and fire Mueller and then be impeached," this person predicted.

White House special counsel Ty Cobb and Trump's personal lawyer, John Dowd, are trying to prevent Trump from lashing out over the investigation, said a source who speaks with the President. "What they are trying to do is manage Trump. That's what everyone tries to do."
But a longtime friend of the President's said he believes Trump's attorneys have "lulled him into a false sense of security" -- which could be a dangerous game.
"I've known him long enough to know that disappointing him is a problem and they've built up a level of expectations for him that are unrealistic," the Trump friend said.
The assessment by the President's lawyers cuts against the grain of legal experts who believe the Mueller investigation is only ramping up, with Flynn's guilty plea and his agreement to cooperate with investigators signaling that Mueller is chasing even bigger fish. Lawyers for others involved in the investigation are also skeptical that Mueller is close to wrapping up his work.
Cobb insists the investigation is winding down and has said he expects the part of the probe that is scrutinizing the President and the White House will come to a close early next year.
"The special counsel has had the White House documents for some time now and has concluded all requested White House interviews. The President is confident based on the lack of evidence of any wrongdoing that he'll be treated appropriately by the special counsel and ideally in the near future," Cobb told CNN Sunday, though he acknowledged Mueller could request additional interviews with White House staff.
Cobb declined to speculate on how the President would be publicly exonerated. He said he and the President had never discussed a letter of exoneration and said he had "no idea" where Trump got the idea.
Privately, Cobb has sought to assuage Trump and White House staffers by touting his connections to Mueller and members of his team, whom he has known in Washington for years, sources familiar with the matter said. He also cites his familiarity with the thousands of documents the White House has provided to Mueller's investigators, the sources said.
But Cobb's timeline predicting the end of Mueller's focus on the White House has repeatedly shifted. First, he said the investigation would end by Thanksgiving. Then, he said it would wrap up by the end of the year. Now, he's predicting early next year.


Mark Corallo, a former spokesman for the President's legal team, said he doubts Mueller would deliver a letter exonerating Trump before he has fully wrapped up his investigation. But he said pressure is mounting for Mueller to conclude his investigation as a result of reports that several members of his investigative team (who have since been taken off the investigation) have privately expressed anti-Trump sentiments.
"If you're Mueller and you want to have any shred of credibility, you have to find a way" to bring the investigation to a close, Corallo said. "If you reach the conclusion that the President of the United States doesn't have anything to do with this...he's going to have to find some way to make that public. We're at that point now."

One senior White House official insisted that even if Cobb's timeline doesn't pan out, he has provided the necessary reassurance of a "light at the end of the tunnel" in a White House where the investigation sometimes seems to loom endlessly and where the President's mood has been affected by its topsy-turvy nature.
"If it's not totally on that timeline, do I think there's going to be a problem? No. I think that people are realistic that things change, stuff happens," the senior White House official said. "You cross that bridge when you get to it."
'Morale-crushing' investigation
While Cobb's words have reassured some White House officials who have become wrapped up in the investigation, many staffers continue to work under the assumption that the probe is intensifying, five sources close to the White House said.
The Russia investigation has become the backdrop for day-to-day life at the White House.
Officials insist it doesn't disrupt their work days, although the latest Russia developments and the President's own Twitter musings often send some in the communications shop scrambling to respond. But sources acknowledged the constant clamor of the investigation -- and wall-to-wall media coverage -- has weighed on the mood in the West Wing.
"The commotion around the investigation is morale-crushing to everybody," said one source familiar with the situation.
Senior staffers have borne the brunt of the anxiety. Many have hired lawyers and worked with them at length to prepare for their interviews with the special counsel's team.
Hope Hicks, the White House communications director and one of Trump's closest aides, missed several days of work in order to meet with her lawyer to prepare for her interview, two sources said.

"I feel for these White House staffers that are caught up in these interviews because it's nerve-wracking," said Scott Jennings, who found himself embroiled in a special counsel investigation during his tenure as deputy director of political affairs under President George W. Bush. "The thing that nobody really knows, having really lived through one of these, is just how much of a toll this can take on staff in terms of stress, anxiety, personal legal bills."
For now at least, White House staffers are paying their legal fees out of their own pockets, a significant expense for government employees.
One source who has spoken with the President said he seems to be unaware of the anxiety among staffers. "Everybody needs a pat on the back, some reassurances that the President is loyal to them, and he just doesn't do that well," the source said.
As the investigation creeps toward 2018, White House officials and former campaign aides remain adamant that there was no coordination or collusion between Trump's presidential campaign and Russian officials.
Some White House staffers have taken to dismissing the investigation as "fake news" and using it as grist for gallows humor.
"You getting nervous?" staffers would quip to former Trump campaign hands working in the White House.
Sarah Sanders, the White House press secretary, said the special counsel's investigation hasn't been a distraction.
"We have not missed a step, struggled to get our work done or been distracted," she said in a statement to CNN. "We have been focused on growing the economy, passing massive tax cuts, defeating ISIS, cutting regulations at a record pace and creating millions of jobs."

Trump's shift from angry to calm
While Trump may have temporarily adopted a more serene view of the special counsel's investigation, he remains irritated by the ongoing Russia investigations playing out on Capitol Hill. He has pressed some lawmakers for details about the status of the congressional probes.

Trump comments on FBI, Putin and Michael Flynn 04:52
"When you look at the committees, whether it's the Senate or the House, everybody -- my worst enemies, they walk out, they say, 'There is no collusion but we'll continue to look.' They're spending millions and millions of dollars. There's absolutely no collusion. I didn't make a phone call to Russia. I have nothing to do with Russia. Everybody knows it," Trump told reporters gathered on the South Lawn of the White House Friday. "We've got to get back to running a country."
Contrary to the President's claims, the congressional committees have not yet determined whether there is evidence the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. In multiple conversations with Republican senators, Trump expressed frustration about the scope of the investigations, according to two sources familiar with the conversations.
Several members of the House and Senate Intelligence committees, which are conducting Russia investigations, have made a conscious effort to avoid Trump and the White House this year to guard against allegations of impropriety.
Other lawmakers have taken pains to avoid discussing the issue with the President even as they try to work alongside him to advance the GOP's agenda.
In a private phone call with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in August, soon after the collapse of the health care bill in the Senate, Trump let his frustrations fly -- but not about the failure to repeal Obamacare. He railed against McConnell about the ongoing congressional probes, a call that devolved into the President shouting profanities at the majority leader, sources briefed on the call said. The two men have steered clear of discussing the Russia probe since, sources said.
Over several rounds of golf in recent weeks, Sen. Lindsey Graham said he has tried to avoid discussing Russia when he's on the course with Trump.
"We pretty much don't talk about Russia a lot," the South Carolina Republican said. "He sort of knows where I'm at. This investigation is going to go where it goes."
When the topic does come up, Graham said, he gets a familiar refrain from Trump. "He complains about it, says he didn't do anything wrong," Graham said. "I say, 'Alright Mr. President, time will tell.'"
Even as the President devours cable news and vents on Twitter, allies inside and outside the White House said Trump's days aren't consumed by an obsession with the Russia probe.
Perhaps his biggest frustration is that he believes the investigations are hindering his governing prowess. Trump has told one senator repeatedly that the ongoing probes undermine his standing on the world stage and make it harder for him to work with foreign leaders, according to a person with direct knowledge of the calls.
More painful next year?
If the President is concerned about the uproar over Russia drowning out his agenda now, experts said next year could prove even more painful if Republicans lose control of the House or the Senate.
"From an investigatory perspective, the paralysis that can be injected by the opposite party controlling Congress is so significant," said Jennings, drawing on his experience in the Bush administration. "I hope there is an appreciation for the fact that this presidency could come to a complete standstill in less than one year."
While Mueller's probe has focused on criminal wrongdoing, congressional investigators have much wider latitude. Democrats could try to unearth unsavory stories about abuses of power or efforts to shame public officials. And investigations that Republicans have largely led behind closed doors could be thrust into the public view, an outcome that would almost certainly be more damaging to the President's approval ratings.
"The most important difference at this point in the story between the Watergate scandal and 'Hackergate' or 'Russiagate' is that Congress is not holding public hearings," said Tim Naftali, a CNN presidential historian and the former director of the Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum.
"It was every day, it was public and people watched it," Naftali said of the Watergate scandal. "It was like a soap opera."

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#1511131 --- 12/18/17 01:14 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Trump lays out his National security Strategy


A sad and pathetic president when they denigrate everyone from the FBI, Democrats, Republicans and foreign leaders to make a speech in which he is so hypocritical.


http://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-rep...n-1118992963531

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#1511142 --- 12/18/17 02:07 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Trumps emotional stability is like what a 12 year old?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/18/politics/trump-russia-investigation/index.html

Trump predicts exoneration in Russia investigation as allies fear a 'meltdown'

By Jeremy Diamond, Sara Murray and Manu Raju, CNN

President Donald Trump is privately striking a less agitated tone on the Russia investigation, sources say, even insisting he'll soon be cleared in writing. But his new approach has some allies worried he's not taking the threat of the probe seriously enough.
Trump has spent much of his first year in office so enraged by the federal investigation into Russian meddling in last year's election that lawmakers who work with him tried to avoid the issue entirely and his friends worried that Trump might rashly fire the special counsel. But in recent weeks, Trump has privately seemed less frustrated about the investigation, according to multiple sources who have spoken with the President.

There's no indication from special counsel Robert Mueller or his team that the probe is in its final stages. A tipping point in the showdown could come as soon as this week when Trump's private lawyers and Mueller meet, sources familiar with the matter told CNN. Trump's team is hoping to get a clearer sense of Mueller's next steps in the investigation, an assessment that could either pacify Trump or inflame him.

Until those next signs emerge, Trump is boasting to friends and advisers that he expects Mueller to clear him of wrongdoing in the coming weeks, according to sources familiar with the conversations. The President seems so convinced of his impending exoneration that he is telling associates Mueller will soon write a letter clearing him that Trump can brandish to Washington and the world in a bid to finally emerge from the cloud of suspicion that has loomed over the first chapter of his presidency, the sources said.

This account of how Trump and his senior staffers are privately grappling with the Russia investigation is based on interviews over the past week with nearly three dozen White House officials, lawmakers, outside advisers, friends of the President and sources familiar with the Mueller probe. It depicts a president genuinely convinced of his innocence and advisers preparing for him to explode early next year if the probe doesn't end as neatly as Trump expects.
In private conversations, Trump still speaks dismissively of the Russia investigation, referring to it as "bulls---" and proclaiming "I don't know any Russians!" multiple sources told CNN.

But those outbursts are measured against Trump's belief that the investigation will soon wrap up favorably. That rosy picture has buoyed Trump's spirits in recent weeks, leaving him seemingly less frustrated and more even-keeled about the investigation even as Mueller's team landed a guilty plea and the cooperation of one of the President's former top advisers, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.
"The President's mantra is 'All this Russia stuff, it's all going to wrap up soon.' He repeats it as fact," said one source who speaks to Trump. "Part of me is like -- 'Are you serious? You believe this?'"

The President, speaking to reporters at the White House Sunday evening, insisted he wasn't considering firing Mueller. But the pressure on Mueller from Trump's allies is growing. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin told CNN's Jake Tapper Sunday on "State of the Union" that "we've got to get past this investigation."
"It's a giant distraction," he said. "Nobody has said that, in any way, this impacted the outcome of the election."
Meanwhile, lawyers representing the Trump presidential transition wrote to members of Congress accusing Mueller of obtaining unauthorized access to tens of thousands of transition emails, including what they claim to be documents protected by attorney-client privilege. Mueller's spokesman responded that, "When we have obtained emails in the course of our ongoing investigation, we have secured either the account owner's consent or appropriate criminal process."
Worrying about the deadline
Trump's legal team has told the President he will likely be cleared of wrongdoing in the coming months, according to a senior White House official and sources who have spoken with Trump. That optimism has left some of the President's friends and advisers worried the deadline could come and go, leaving Trump frustrated and more prone to rash behavior than ever before, including potentially firing Mueller. A number of Trump's allies have warned him that any attempt to fire Mueller could be a fatal blow to his presidency.
Three sources familiar with the President's recent conversations about the investigation said Trump has become convinced that he will receive a letter of exoneration, which would be unusual. One source worried Trump would have a "meltdown" if that doesn't happen.
"He'll try and fire Mueller and then be impeached," this person predicted.

White House special counsel Ty Cobb and Trump's personal lawyer, John Dowd, are trying to prevent Trump from lashing out over the investigation, said a source who speaks with the President. "What they are trying to do is manage Trump. That's what everyone tries to do."
But a longtime friend of the President's said he believes Trump's attorneys have "lulled him into a false sense of security" -- which could be a dangerous game.
"I've known him long enough to know that disappointing him is a problem and they've built up a level of expectations for him that are unrealistic," the Trump friend said.
The assessment by the President's lawyers cuts against the grain of legal experts who believe the Mueller investigation is only ramping up, with Flynn's guilty plea and his agreement to cooperate with investigators signaling that Mueller is chasing even bigger fish. Lawyers for others involved in the investigation are also skeptical that Mueller is close to wrapping up his work.
Cobb insists the investigation is winding down and has said he expects the part of the probe that is scrutinizing the President and the White House will come to a close early next year.
"The special counsel has had the White House documents for some time now and has concluded all requested White House interviews. The President is confident based on the lack of evidence of any wrongdoing that he'll be treated appropriately by the special counsel and ideally in the near future," Cobb told CNN Sunday, though he acknowledged Mueller could request additional interviews with White House staff.
Cobb declined to speculate on how the President would be publicly exonerated. He said he and the President had never discussed a letter of exoneration and said he had "no idea" where Trump got the idea.
Privately, Cobb has sought to assuage Trump and White House staffers by touting his connections to Mueller and members of his team, whom he has known in Washington for years, sources familiar with the matter said. He also cites his familiarity with the thousands of documents the White House has provided to Mueller's investigators, the sources said.
But Cobb's timeline predicting the end of Mueller's focus on the White House has repeatedly shifted. First, he said the investigation would end by Thanksgiving. Then, he said it would wrap up by the end of the year. Now, he's predicting early next year.


Mark Corallo, a former spokesman for the President's legal team, said he doubts Mueller would deliver a letter exonerating Trump before he has fully wrapped up his investigation. But he said pressure is mounting for Mueller to conclude his investigation as a result of reports that several members of his investigative team (who have since been taken off the investigation) have privately expressed anti-Trump sentiments.
"If you're Mueller and you want to have any shred of credibility, you have to find a way" to bring the investigation to a close, Corallo said. "If you reach the conclusion that the President of the United States doesn't have anything to do with this...he's going to have to find some way to make that public. We're at that point now."

One senior White House official insisted that even if Cobb's timeline doesn't pan out, he has provided the necessary reassurance of a "light at the end of the tunnel" in a White House where the investigation sometimes seems to loom endlessly and where the President's mood has been affected by its topsy-turvy nature.
"If it's not totally on that timeline, do I think there's going to be a problem? No. I think that people are realistic that things change, stuff happens," the senior White House official said. "You cross that bridge when you get to it."
'Morale-crushing' investigation
While Cobb's words have reassured some White House officials who have become wrapped up in the investigation, many staffers continue to work under the assumption that the probe is intensifying, five sources close to the White House said.
The Russia investigation has become the backdrop for day-to-day life at the White House.
Officials insist it doesn't disrupt their work days, although the latest Russia developments and the President's own Twitter musings often send some in the communications shop scrambling to respond. But sources acknowledged the constant clamor of the investigation -- and wall-to-wall media coverage -- has weighed on the mood in the West Wing.
"The commotion around the investigation is morale-crushing to everybody," said one source familiar with the situation.
Senior staffers have borne the brunt of the anxiety. Many have hired lawyers and worked with them at length to prepare for their interviews with the special counsel's team.
Hope Hicks, the White House communications director and one of Trump's closest aides, missed several days of work in order to meet with her lawyer to prepare for her interview, two sources said.

"I feel for these White House staffers that are caught up in these interviews because it's nerve-wracking," said Scott Jennings, who found himself embroiled in a special counsel investigation during his tenure as deputy director of political affairs under President George W. Bush. "The thing that nobody really knows, having really lived through one of these, is just how much of a toll this can take on staff in terms of stress, anxiety, personal legal bills."
For now at least, White House staffers are paying their legal fees out of their own pockets, a significant expense for government employees.
One source who has spoken with the President said he seems to be unaware of the anxiety among staffers. "Everybody needs a pat on the back, some reassurances that the President is loyal to them, and he just doesn't do that well," the source said.
As the investigation creeps toward 2018, White House officials and former campaign aides remain adamant that there was no coordination or collusion between Trump's presidential campaign and Russian officials.
Some White House staffers have taken to dismissing the investigation as "fake news" and using it as grist for gallows humor.
"You getting nervous?" staffers would quip to former Trump campaign hands working in the White House.
Sarah Sanders, the White House press secretary, said the special counsel's investigation hasn't been a distraction.
"We have not missed a step, struggled to get our work done or been distracted," she said in a statement to CNN. "We have been focused on growing the economy, passing massive tax cuts, defeating ISIS, cutting regulations at a record pace and creating millions of jobs."

Trump's shift from angry to calm
While Trump may have temporarily adopted a more serene view of the special counsel's investigation, he remains irritated by the ongoing Russia investigations playing out on Capitol Hill. He has pressed some lawmakers for details about the status of the congressional probes.

Trump comments on FBI, Putin and Michael Flynn 04:52
"When you look at the committees, whether it's the Senate or the House, everybody -- my worst enemies, they walk out, they say, 'There is no collusion but we'll continue to look.' They're spending millions and millions of dollars. There's absolutely no collusion. I didn't make a phone call to Russia. I have nothing to do with Russia. Everybody knows it," Trump told reporters gathered on the South Lawn of the White House Friday. "We've got to get back to running a country."
Contrary to the President's claims, the congressional committees have not yet determined whether there is evidence the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. In multiple conversations with Republican senators, Trump expressed frustration about the scope of the investigations, according to two sources familiar with the conversations.
Several members of the House and Senate Intelligence committees, which are conducting Russia investigations, have made a conscious effort to avoid Trump and the White House this year to guard against allegations of impropriety.
Other lawmakers have taken pains to avoid discussing the issue with the President even as they try to work alongside him to advance the GOP's agenda.
In a private phone call with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in August, soon after the collapse of the health care bill in the Senate, Trump let his frustrations fly -- but not about the failure to repeal Obamacare. He railed against McConnell about the ongoing congressional probes, a call that devolved into the President shouting profanities at the majority leader, sources briefed on the call said. The two men have steered clear of discussing the Russia probe since, sources said.
Over several rounds of golf in recent weeks, Sen. Lindsey Graham said he has tried to avoid discussing Russia when he's on the course with Trump.
"We pretty much don't talk about Russia a lot," the South Carolina Republican said. "He sort of knows where I'm at. This investigation is going to go where it goes."
When the topic does come up, Graham said, he gets a familiar refrain from Trump. "He complains about it, says he didn't do anything wrong," Graham said. "I say, 'Alright Mr. President, time will tell.'"
Even as the President devours cable news and vents on Twitter, allies inside and outside the White House said Trump's days aren't consumed by an obsession with the Russia probe.
Perhaps his biggest frustration is that he believes the investigations are hindering his governing prowess. Trump has told one senator repeatedly that the ongoing probes undermine his standing on the world stage and make it harder for him to work with foreign leaders, according to a person with direct knowledge of the calls.
More painful next year?
If the President is concerned about the uproar over Russia drowning out his agenda now, experts said next year could prove even more painful if Republicans lose control of the House or the Senate.
"From an investigatory perspective, the paralysis that can be injected by the opposite party controlling Congress is so significant," said Jennings, drawing on his experience in the Bush administration. "I hope there is an appreciation for the fact that this presidency could come to a complete standstill in less than one year."
While Mueller's probe has focused on criminal wrongdoing, congressional investigators have much wider latitude. Democrats could try to unearth unsavory stories about abuses of power or efforts to shame public officials. And investigations that Republicans have largely led behind closed doors could be thrust into the public view, an outcome that would almost certainly be more damaging to the President's approval ratings.
"The most important difference at this point in the story between the Watergate scandal and 'Hackergate' or 'Russiagate' is that Congress is not holding public hearings," said Tim Naftali, a CNN presidential historian and the former director of the Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum.
"It was every day, it was public and people watched it," Naftali said of the Watergate scandal. "It was like a soap opera."


What a phony story, From a Phony News Network!

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#1511152 --- 12/18/17 03:24 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
What a phony story, From a Phony News Network!
I suppose you think Breitbart and Fox are better? Wait until next year and watch Trump melt down as the Mueller probe continues.

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#1511153 --- 12/18/17 03:27 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
How disgusting is that our president talks more highly of Putin than our FBI?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/07/christopher-wray-fbi-oversight-hearing-285956?lo=ap_d1

FBI Director Christopher Wray on Thursday rejected President Donald Trump’s claim that the law enforcement agency’s reputation is “in tatters.”

“There is no shortage of opinions out there,” Wray said, without mentioning the president, during a House Judiciary Committee hearing after he was asked about Trump’s statement. “The FBI that I see is people, decent people, committed to the highest principles of dignity and professionalism and respect.”


LOL, barely mentioned Putin in his National security speech, funny how one of our biggest threat is cyber and the idiot fails to acknowledge that fact.

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#1511154 --- 12/18/17 03:28 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
What a phony story, From a Phony News Network!
Do you believe this story?

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/35444...become-an-adult

Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) fired back at President Trump after his criticism on Sunday, calling Trump’s White House “an adult day care center.”

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#1511155 --- 12/18/17 03:30 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
What a phony story, From a Phony News Network!
Do you believe this story from CNN?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/18/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-dictators/index.html

Sen. John McCain slammed President Donald Trump's attacks on the media this week by noting dictators "get started by suppressing free press."

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#1511170 --- 12/18/17 05:13 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
What a phony story, From a Phony News Network!
Do you believe this story from CNN?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/18/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-dictators/index.html

Sen. John McCain slammed President Donald Trump's attacks on the media this week by noting dictators "get started by suppressing free press."


The dictator you keep talking about is gone.

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#1511174 --- 12/18/17 08:04 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
What a phony story, From a Phony News Network!
Do you believe this story from CNN?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/18/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-dictators/index.html

Sen. John McCain slammed President Donald Trump's attacks on the media this week by noting dictators "get started by suppressing free press."
The dictator you keep talking about is gone.
Really? Trump resigned? I assume he announced it on Twitter to avoid the fake news press?

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#1511244 --- 12/19/17 05:47 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hal...kushpmg00000009

Half Of American Voters Think Trump Should Resign Over Sexual Misconduct Allegations

A Quinnipiac poll found that 59 percent of women and 41 percent of men believe the president should step aside.

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#1511378 --- 12/21/17 02:55 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Trump holds the most powerful position in the world. And he is more insecure than a young teen. It is so very scary.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/20/politics/trump-tax-cuts-victory-lap/index.html

All 11 over-the-top speeches praising Donald Trump at Wednesday's tax celebration, ranked

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large

Congressional Republicans gathered at the White House Wednesday afternoon to celebrate the passage of a major tax cut bill with President Trump. It was a love-fest.

Speaker after speaker lavished praise on Trump as a singular man, the only president -- hell, the only person -- in history who could have gotten these tax cuts across the finish line.

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#1511379 --- 12/21/17 05:49 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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A complete narcissist, time will destroy him by his own hands.



https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond...es/syc-20366662

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#1511383 --- 12/21/17 06:52 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
A complete narcissist, time will destroy him by his own hands.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond...es/syc-20366662

Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them.

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It certainly will. The only question is whether he will destroy us along with himself.

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#1511386 --- 12/21/17 07:48 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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You're right, some of our concerns are already being realized in terms of global respect we once experienced up to 2017, the ability to look out for the less fortunate,worrying about nuclear fallout and last but not least (My wife being an educator} states that the subject of our POTUS is very limited in schools due to the fact that he brings to the government, a great deal of unethical traits not seen since Richard Milhouse Nixon. Imagine a time when we enjoyed being a nation of democracy adverse to Authoritarianism, our global studies teachers are having a tough time distinguishing from either.


http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/t...p-1121495107701

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#1511426 --- 12/21/17 05:09 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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http://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/nbc-wsj-poll-41-want-trump-impeachment-hearings-1121630275722

MTP Daily 12/21/17

NBC/WSJ Poll: 41% want Trump impeachment hearings

NBC’s bipartisan polling team, Bill McInturff and Fred Yang, join MTP Daily to break down the new NBC/WSJ poll numbers. Duration: 6:59

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#1511436 --- 12/22/17 03:34 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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George Takei
‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei
7h7 hours ago

Dear World: We apologize. We don’t know quite yet what to do about him either.

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#1511442 --- 12/22/17 07:28 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Kyle, I can't but laugh when we reflect on an age old adages of "once a cheater,always a cheater" A leopard can't change it's spots" and the best one " you can fix many thing but you can't fix stupid" Democrats had a certain criteria they knew that Trump couldn't meet but the current trends exceeded even our worse nightmares while it's becoming an era of Conservative panic, "we voted him in and the embarrassment can't be revealed to the public" Well Conservatives, your secret has been exposed from day one when Trump cried about crowd size at his inauguration and the downhill ride has been funny,exhilarating,scary.hairy, bumpy, heart wrenching, terrorizing and heart stopping, the cost of this ride? lost of world power, respect, lost of good global friends, no ability to be recognized as reputable world leaders anyone, we are p&$##y whipped by the Russians and lost the stance of telling other countries how to treat it's citizens. Look at the price we are paying to witness an age old Republican party's inability to change and being led by a world re-known deviate.

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#1511451 --- 12/22/17 02:55 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Kyle, I can't but laugh when we reflect on an age old adages of "once a cheater,always a cheater" A leopard can't change it's spots" and the best one " you can fix many thing but you can't fix stupid" Democrats had a certain criteria they knew that Trump couldn't meet but the current trends exceeded even our worse nightmares while it's becoming an era of Conservative panic, "we voted him in and the embarrassment can't be revealed to the public" Well Conservatives, your secret has been exposed from day one when Trump cried about crowd size at his inauguration and the downhill ride has been funny,exhilarating,scary.hairy, bumpy, heart wrenching, terrorizing and heart stopping, the cost of this ride? lost of world power, respect, lost of good global friends, no ability to be recognized as reputable world leaders anyone, we are p&$##y whipped by the Russians and lost the stance of telling other countries how to treat it's citizens. Look at the price we are paying to witness an age old Republican party's inability to change and being led by a world re-known deviate.
Very well said.

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#1511479 --- 12/23/17 06:28 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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I found this online. grin

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Imagine this scenario; the Democrats take back the House in 2018 and Nancy Pelosi becomes Speaker of the House again; then Trump is impeached and he resigns or is removed; Pence is also implicated and resigns or is removed; Nancy Pelosi would then become the President of the United States.

Republican heads would be exploding across the nation. Nancy Pelosi could be the first woman to become President of the United States. ROFL

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#1511482 --- 12/23/17 07:34 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/what...e-1122802755583

What happens to President Trump if Democrats win back the House?

Rep. Jerrold Nadler is now the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee – the committee that drafts articles of impeachment -- and he’s a constitutional lawyer from New York who has battled with Trump before. Duration: 9:28

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#1511483 --- 12/23/17 07:36 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/wait-did-rep-adam-schiff-just-drop-a-big-hint-1122171459988

Wait, did Rep. Adam Schiff just drop a big hint?

Rachel Maddow shares a piece of her interview with Rep. Adam Schiff in which he raises the question of whether Russians laundered money through the Trump Organization or guaranteed loans for the Trump

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#1511622 --- 12/29/17 08:08 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...ge-2018-n832806

News analysis

WASHINGTON — Democrats ended 2016 dejected and despondent after Donald Trump shocked Hillary Clinton — and the world — by a tiny combined margin of 77,744 votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to win the presidency.

A year later, Democrats are ending 2017 as the slight favorites to take back the House in the midterm elections, thanks to a surge of grassroots anti-Trump activism and an explosion of credible Democratic candidates.

For years, I've argued that House Republicans' twin geographic advantages — their dominance in the 2011 round of congressional districting and Democratic voters' tendency to cluster in cities and waste their own votes — meant that to reclaim the majority, Democrats would either need a resettlement program of their own voters or an unpopular GOP president in a midterm year.

The latter has come true. Trump's poor standing — just 41 percent approval in the most recent NBC/WSJ poll — have propelled Democrats to leads in voters' preference for Congress that may be too large for GOP gerrymandering to withstand.

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#1511627 --- 12/29/17 01:33 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Donald J. Trump can see the writing on the wall, a total take over by the Democrats in both the Senate and House, if he is still president by then, the Democrats will be encumbered to do what the crooked Republican party failed to do, impeach this tyrant who has managed to destroy the fabric of our democracy.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/29/politics/donald-trump-approval-rating/index.html


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/analy...tes-u-s-n833046


http://time.com/5048402/donald-trump-michael-flynn-russia-lies/


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#1511629 --- 12/29/17 07:11 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/joe-sc...article/2644556

“Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough warned Thursday that 2018 stands to be the “most consequential political year of our lives.”

In an op-ed for the Washington Post, the former Florida congressman reflected on the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency, and denounced Trump for the charges against his former campaign officials and national security adviser, attacks on the press, and the suggestion that there were fine people on “both sides” after white nationalist groups clashed with counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Va.

Scarborough criticized Trump’s foreign policy, saying “others would surely consider the president’s malignant idiocy in foreign affairs to be the most damning legacy of his first year.”

But reflecting on Winston Churchill’s “The Gathering Storm,” the MSNBC host said he believes Churchill’s “ominous warnings to future generations’ will be particularly prevalent in 2018.

“While Trump’s eroding of U.S. prestige across the globe is disturbing, it is his administration’s undermining of democratic values that poses an even greater threat to our Constitution and country,” Scarborough said.

He said the country’s “constitutional norms tremble in the balance” give the president’s attacks on the First Amendment, independent counsels, and law enforcement officials—a reference to Trump’s criticisms of the FBI and its top officials, and special counsel Robert Mueller, who is leading the probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

“While the framers of the Constitution foresaw the possibility of a tyrannical president, they never let their imaginations be darkened by the possibility of a compliant Congress,” Scarborough said.

The “Morning Joe” host, who has been a frequent critic of the president’s, reminded readers the “storm is gathering,” and said, “how we respond in the months ahead may determine our fate for years to come.”

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#1511686 --- 12/30/17 07:32 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes

The Trump campaign knew Russia was acting criminally to help them and covered for them at every turn.
2:19 PM - 30 Dec 2017

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#1511687 --- 12/30/17 07:36 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Shocking. Trump,s buddy

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Senior European security sources claimed Russian tankers have transferred fuel to North Korean in international waters.

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#1511818 --- 01/02/18 03:11 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Barack Obama
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Whoever gave @realDonaldTrump coffee this morning needs to switch to decaf. You’re going to start World War III.

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#1511851 --- 01/03/18 10:18 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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With friends like Bannon, Trump doesn't need enemies.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/bannon-wolff-fire-and-fury/index.html

Bannon: 2016 Trump Tower meeting was 'treasonous'

By Maegan Vazquez, CNN Updated 10:40 AM ET, Wed January 3, 2018

Bannon: 2016 Trump Tower meeting was 'treasonous'
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Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon called the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between Trump campaign officials and a Russian lawyer purportedly offering damaging information about Hillary Clinton "treasonous," according to a new book obtained by The Guardian.

The book, "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House" by Michael Wolff, is based on hundreds of interviews, including ones with President Donald Trump and his inner circle. According to the Guardian, Bannon addressed the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between Donald Trump Jr., then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner and Russian operatives that was arranged when Trump Jr. agreed to meet a "Russian government attorney" after receiving an email offering him "very high level and sensitive information" that would "incriminate" Clinton.

"The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor -- with no lawyers. They didn't have any lawyers," Bannon continued, according to the Guardian. "Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad s***, and I happen to think it's all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately."

Bannon also reportedly told Wolff: "They're going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV."
The White House declined to comment Wednesday about Bannon's reported assertions.
Bannon also reportedly told Wolff that special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia is centered on money laundering, saying that the White House is "sitting on a beach trying to stop a Category Five" hurricane.

"You realize where this is going ... This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose (senior prosecutor Andrew) Weissmann first and he is a money-laundering guy," Bannon reportedly said. "Their path to f***ing Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr., and Jared Kushner ... It's as plain as a hair on your face."
Bannon said he believes Kushner, the White House senior adviser and the President's son-in-law, could be convinced to cooperate if Mueller probes his financial records.

"They're going to go right through that. They're going to roll those two guys up and say play me or trade me," Bannon is reported as saying, apparently referring to Trump Jr. and Kushner.
The Trump Tower meeting has been of intense interest to the congressional Russia investigators as well as Mueller.
Trump Jr. testified before House investigators last month but would not say what he and his father discussed after reports surfaced about the meeting, citing attorney-client privilege.

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#1511853 --- 01/03/18 11:44 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/steve-bannon-guardian-russia-analysis/index.html

Steve Bannon is 100% right about Russia and the Trump campaign

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 12:02 PM ET, Wed January 3, 2018

In a new book detailing the wild first year of Donald Trump's presidency, former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon is quoted blasting top operatives in the 2016 campaign for their naivete and idiocy in their dealings with the Russians.
He's absolutely right.

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#1511856 --- 01/03/18 01:29 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/steve-bannon-guardian-russia-analysis/index.html

Steve Bannon is 100% right about Russia and the Trump campaign

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 12:02 PM ET, Wed January 3, 2018

In a new book detailing the wild first year of Donald Trump's presidency, former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon is quoted blasting top operatives in the 2016 campaign for their naivete and idiocy in their dealings with the Russians.
He's absolutely right.


Quote:
Steve Bannon is 100% right about Russia and the Trump campaign
A few months ago Bannon was the biggest scumbag that walking this planet, you have to make up your mind kyle.

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#1511857 --- 01/03/18 01:46 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Steve Bannon is a scumbag and there was never any equivocation on that part by Kyle or myself. The obstacle before you is to explain how does every individual since trump's announcement to run for president goes from a great guy, wonderful, good friend etc. to a "liar and dirt bag"?
By now, the entire world knows Trump's pattern of superlatives and praises until either they exposes Trump's lies or get arrested. Explain 4 arrests under one administration, which was unfounded before and since Nixon.......remember Tommy.....they were ALL GOOD GUYS before Trump hired them.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...m=.c499698007bf

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#1511860 --- 01/03/18 03:15 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
A few months ago Bannon was the biggest scumbag that walking this planet, you have to make up your mind kyle.
Why do I have to make up my mind about Bannon?

Trump can't make up his mind about him. ROFLMAO

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/president-donald-trump-steve-bannon/index.html

Trump unloads on former top aide Bannon: 'He lost his mind'

Jeremy Diamond 2017 Updated 3:25 PM ET, Wed January 3, 2018

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#1511861 --- 01/03/18 03:16 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/steve-bannon-guardian-russia-analysis/index.html

Steve Bannon is 100% right about Russia and the Trump campaign

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 12:02 PM ET, Wed January 3, 2018
I was quoting Chris Cillizza about Bannon. Not my words grin

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#1511862 --- 01/03/18 03:31 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/trump-bannon-statement-analysis/index.html

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large

Trump has already proven in 1,000 different ways how he is not now nor will he ever be "presidential" in the way that the 43 men who have held the office before him would define it. Whereas those men would nearly always default to taking the high road in any sort of public disagreement, Trump takes the low road. Every single time. Without fail.

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#1511863 --- 01/03/18 03:34 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/...s/steve-bannon/

Toobin: Bannon had a real 'axe to grind'

AT THIS HOUR
CNN's Jerffrey Toobin and David Chalian discuss the implications of Steve Bannon calling the Trump Tower Russia meeting "treasonous."

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#1511865 --- 01/03/18 03:36 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Who is not well? Both of them for sure!

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/03/steve-bannon-trump-conflict-322278

resident Donald Trump and his senior aides were fuming on Wednesday after the publication of a book excerpt containing a series of explosive comments from former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon.

Trump ranted about Bannon in conversations with advisers on Wednesday, at one point telling aides he is “not well,” according to a person briefed on the conversations.

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#1511873 --- 01/03/18 04:22 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/steve-bannon-apos-schizophrenic-apos-173657317.html

Steve Bannon is 'Schizophrenic,' Matt Drudge Says After New Trump Tower Meeting Revelations
Newsweek Michael Edison Hayden,Newsweek 4 hours ago

President Donald Trump's former strategist Steve Bannon is "schizophrenic" and in need of a full security detail after calling the Trump campaign's 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Kremlin-linked Russians "treasonous," says one of America's most-read right-wing journalists.

Matt Drudge, who runs the highly influential Drudge Report, made the remarks after Trump’s former political adviser called the meeting "treasonous" and cast new doubts on Team Trump's denials about the subject of the meeting.

"No wonder schizophrenic Steve Bannon has been walking around with a small army of bodyguards," Drudge tweeted after journalist Michael Wolff's book Fire and Fury was excerpted in The Guardian on Wednesday.

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#1511874 --- 01/03/18 04:24 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-trump-adviser-says-tried-190751186.html

As a candidate for president, Donald Trump didn’t understand the Constitution—and didn't want to learn about it, a key campaign aide said.

“I got as far as the Fourth Amendment, before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back in his head,” Sam Nunberg, a former adviser to the Trump campaign, said in Michael Wolff's bombshell new book, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, excerpted Wednesday in New York magazine.

The book offers a bird's-eye view of Oval Office dysfunction courtesy of Wolff, who was given rare access and conducted scores of interviews with Trump and his inner circle after the 2016 election, but the candidate's lack of concern for constitutional basics remains a theme in his presidency.

The failure to worry about the Constitution makes sense, Wolff wrote, given that no one in Trump’s campaign, let alone the candidate, thought he would win.

Neither [Kellyanne] Conway nor Trump himself nor his son-in-law, Jared ­Kushner—the effective head of the campaign—wavered in their certainty,” Wolff wrote. “Their unexpected adventure would soon be over.”

But Trump and the others were horrified to find that they had won. The new President-elect Trump “looked as if he had seen a ghost,” according to Wolff's book. And the future first lady, Melania Trump, was in tears.

"And not of joy,” the book added.

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#1511876 --- 01/03/18 04:31 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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From Breitbart:

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/01/0...s-dont-go-jail/

Tuesday on ABC’s “The View,” while discussing President Donald Trump’s tweet about nuclear buttons and North Korea, co-host Joy Behar said Trump was worried about FBI special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe and therefore he would “blow the whole world up so his stupid sons don’t have to go to jail.”

Joy Behar said, “Trump needs to be medicated and hospitalized at this point, or he is just going to kill all of us. You know, my feeling is probably they’re getting closer to him in the Mueller investigation, and that’s what this is about, a lot of it. He’ll blow the whole world up so his stupid sons don’t have to go to jail.

Sunny Hostin said, “I keep on wondering is there some sort of theory here, some sort of strategy he’s using. If truly he’s playing a game of chicken with a dictator in North Korea, we really are in trouble. People are talking about the 25th Amendment saying he’s not mentally fit to be the president. If you’re doing this, is there a mental fitness problem? We all know the ramifications of nuclear war.”

Meghan McCain asked, “Do you want him impeached right this second?”

Behar answered, “I want him out of office immediately. I do. No matter how they do it. I don’t know how they’ll do it — maybe the 25th Amendment.”

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#1511899 --- 01/04/18 10:38 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/10/politics/house-retirement-tracker/index.html

House Republicans are announcing they're leaving office at a significantly faster rate than any other recent Congresses, suggesting Democrats could pick up seats in the 2018 midterm elections. On Tuesday it was Pennsylvania Republican Bill Shuster, the influential chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

Already, at least 29 House Republicans have announced they are retiring, running for another office or resigning outright. They're leaving from all over the map, from southern New Jersey to southern New Mexico.

Democrats need to pick up 24 House seats to retake the majority from Republicans, who've had control of the House since 2011.

Republican leadership has acknowledged it has a problem.

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#1511936 --- 01/05/18 01:53 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/it-was-an-open-secret/549653/?utm_source=atltw


It's Been an Open Secret All Along

The scandal of Michael Wolff’s new book isn’t its salacious details—it’s that everyone in Washington has known its key themes, and refused to act.


Who is also in on this open secret? Virtually everyone in a position to do something about it, which at the moment means members of the Republican majority in Congress.

They know what is wrong with Donald Trump. They know why it’s dangerous. They understand—or most of them do—the damage he can do to a system of governance that relies to a surprising degree on norms rather than rules, and whose vulnerability has been newly exposed. They know—or should—about the ways Trump’s vanity and avarice are harming American interests relative to competitors like Russia and China, and partners and allies in North America, Europe, and the Pacific.

They know. They could do something: hearings, investigations, demands for financial or health documents, subpoenas. Even the tool they used against the 42nd president, for failings one percent as grave as those of the 45th: impeachment.

They know. They could act. And they don’t. The failure of responsibility starts with Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan, but it doesn’t end with them. Every member of a bloc-voting majority shares responsibility for not acting on their version of the open secret. “Independent” Republicans like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski share it. “Thoughtful” ones, like Ben Sasse and Jeff Flake. Those (in addition to Flake) who have nothing to lose electorally, from Bob Corker to Orrin Hatch. When they vote as a majority against strong investigations, against subpoenas, against requirements for financial disclosure, and most of all against protecting Robert Mueller and his investigation, they share complicity in the open secret.

We are watching the political equivalent of the Weinstein board paying off the objects of his abuse. We are watching Fox pay out its tens of millions to O’Reilly’s victims. But we’re watching it in real time, with the secret shared worldwide, and the stakes immeasurably higher.

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#1511940 --- 01/05/18 07:02 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/05/politics/trump-book-image/index.html

But as Washington consumes a sensational West Wing exposé by journalist Michael Wolff, Trump is being forced to watch as his prized image is ripped to shreds.

When a presidency is anchored so fundamentally on an image, as it is with Trump, rather than a long history of political achievement or ideological consistency, any deterioration of that image can be especially perilous. For Trump, who may be more conscious of how he is perceived than any politician in history, the mockery is likely to be especially painful.

Wolff, in some cases using on-the-record quotes, sketches an image far removed from the one constructed by Trump.
It's a picture of a President who knows little of policy details and cares less and appears not to perceive the vast responsibilities of his role.

Sometimes, this version of Trump appears fragile and out of control, prone to emotional and impulsive reactions, and seems lonely in the White House.

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#1511967 --- 01/05/18 03:32 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-odds-rise-explosive-174138896.html

Trump Impeachment Odds Rise After Explosive 'Fire and Fury' Book Revelations
Newsweek Sam Schwarz,Newsweek 3 hours ago

President Donald Trump may have forcefully denied many of the stunning claims in the newly released bombshell book Fire and Fury, but international betting markets have adjusted the odds of a Trump impeachment in his first term, and the news is not good for the president.

Both Ireland-based gambling company Paddy Power and New Zealand–based prediction market PredictIt have increased the likelihood of Trump being impeached before his term ends at the beginning of 2021.

As the president is mired in international feuds with North Korea and Pakistan—to name a few—he may want to turn his attention inward to identify the greatest threats to his presidency, says Lee Brice, head of public relations for Paddy Power.

"With the simmering tension between Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un, it seems like the president should be worrying about threats closer to home, with odds of an impeachment during his first term shortening to 4-7, a probability of 63.6 percent," Brice told Newsweek.

In betting terms, the shortening of odds means something is more likely to occur.

What should be even more alarming to the White House, according to Brice, is the shortening of odds for a Trump impeachment this year.

“It’s not just North Korea causing Trump fire and fury, as Michael Wolff’s new book has listed a series of damaging revelations. We now think it’s evens—50 percent chance that he’s impeached in 2018,” he added.

The oddsmakers at PredictIt, which handles its betting differently than Paddy Power does, are a bit more bullish on Trump's chances of avoiding impeachment and remaining president through the end of his first term. Still, its odds have also shortened over the past couple of days.

When PredictIt’s markets opened on January 2, the day the first excerpts from Wolff's book were released, you could make a 33-cent bet on Trump being impeached in his first term, putting its odds at approximately 2-to-1. On January 4, that number rose as high as 39 cents before plateauing at its current price of 37 cents.

Further, the market for bets on whether Trump will still be president at the end of 2018 and 2019 have experienced similar 5-cent swings. The difference may not appear extreme, but such a rapid swing in betting markets is usually attributable to a specific event. In this case, according to PredictIt spokesperson Will Jennings, that event is likely the Wolff book.

"These markets are responding in real time to the news," Jennings told Newsweek. "Given one of the Bannon excerpts from the book alluded to a possible money laundering case against President Trump, and the subsequent bump in his odds of impeachment, it’s possible some traders are reacting to that new information."

The number of shocking claims in Wolff's book are too many to mention, but a specific few—if proved true—could spell trouble for Trump and his presidency. One major claim, as Jennings pointed out, is that the Trump campaign laundered money. Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon is pretty certain of it.

"This is all about money laundering," Bannon told Wolff in the book. "It’s as plain as a hair on your face."


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#1512027 --- 01/06/18 01:45 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wolff-says-...mps-presidency/


Michael Wolff, author of the new bombshell book "Fire and Fury: Inside Trump's White House," told the BBC in an interview broadcast Saturday that he believes understanding revelations resulting from his book about President Trump will "finally end this presidency."

"You know I think one of the interesting effects of the book so far is a very clear, 'emperor has no clothes' effect — that the story that I've told seems to present this presidency in such a way that it says he can't do this job, the emperor has no clothes, and suddenly everywhere people are going, 'Oh my God it's true, he has no clothes.' That's the background to the perception and the understanding that will finally end this presidency," Wolff told the BBC.

"Fire and Fury," released Friday, describes Mr. Trump in an unflattering light, as someone prone to fits of frustration who eats cheeseburgers and watches TV in bed at 6:30 p.m., and whose capabilities are questioned by his entire senior staff.

"He doesn't read, he doesn't listen, he's profoundly uncurious. He's just interested in what he's interested in and isn't interested in the larger problems of the world, almost any of them," Wolff told the BBC.

"That's on the one hand, so the other side is he's experiencing now issues, fundamentally physical, mental issues..." Wolff continued.

Wolff, who says he conducted more than 200 interviews for his book and took up a semi-permanent seat in the West Wing for months, was asked if he sees Mr. Trump as someone who is mentally incapable of being president of the United States.

"Well, I think he's intellectually incapable of being president of the United States," Wolff told the BBC.

Mr. Trump took to Twitter early Saturday to defend himself, calling himself " a very stable genius" and slamming Wolff, saying he made up stories to sell his book.

Wolff also addressed his description of the president as childlike, an assessment senior officials in the White House share, he said.

"Sometimes it's an 11-year-old. Sometimes it's a six-year-old. Sometimes it's a two-year-old," Wolff said. "All about his need for immediate gratification. I want what I want, when I want."


Wolff also stood by portions of his book that have been called into question, such as his claim that former British Prime Minister Tony Blair warned the Trump campaign that campaign aides were under surveillance by British spies. Blair has flat-out denied the claim, but Wolff said he stands by his sources.

These claims in Michael Wolff's new Trump book are being challenged

"Tony Blair, listen," Wolff told the BBC. "All I know is that Steve Bannon and Tony Blair came to the White House. I actually was there, sitting on the couch. Saw him there. And shortly thereafter, Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon got into a car, went out to Langley to see the director of the CIA and the deputy director, and to ask about these things that Tony Blair had told the president."

The author also addressed criticism that his book might be too one-dimensional, and if Mr. Trump was really incapable, he never could have made it to the White House.

"You know, I use the comparison of 'The Producers,'" Wolff said. "That this entire campaign was designed to bring Donald Trump fame and riches if he did not win, and winning is the thing that exposes him. And I would leave it there and say what we have is an event that should not have happened, and it is almost inexplicable that it did happen. And the fact that it has happened exposes the weakness of the system, but it also exposes Donald Trump himself. He has no clothes."

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#1512132 --- 01/07/18 04:57 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Carl Bernstein was a journalist during the Nixon era so he has a lot of background on this topic.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/01/07/...ces-highlights/

Bernstein: 'We're in a real constitutional crisis'

Carl Bernstein says this is a place "where we as journalists have never been before," with so many people doubting the fitness and stability of the president. He discusses how journalists should seek answers from GOP leaders and other public officials.

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http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/...ces-highlights/

Wolff: 25th Amendment discussed in West Wing

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CNN's Brian Stelter and Carl Bernstein discuss President Donald Trump's fitness after "Fire and Fury" author Michael Wolff told NBC's Chuck Todd people in the West Wing have brought up the 25th Amendment in conversation.

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#1512134 --- 01/07/18 05:06 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/01/05/lead-dr-james-gilligan-live-jake-tapper.cnn

Doctors call Trump's mental health 'danger to nation'

The Lead

Psychiatrists reveal the warnings they made to members of Congress about President Trump's mental health. One of those doctors joins The Lead.

Source: CNN

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#1512135 --- 01/07/18 05:11 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Jake Tapper Pulls The Plug On Stephen Miller’s Train Wreck Interview

“I’ve wasted enough of my viewers’ time,” the CNN host told President Donald Trump’s senior policy adviser.

CNN’s Jake Tapper has a message for top White House aide Stephen Miller: Stop wasting my viewers’ time.

Tapper shut down his tense interview Sunday with President Donald Trump’s senior policy adviser after Miller continued to parrot talking points touting his boss while also attacking CNN.

“I think I have wasted enough of my viewers’ time,” Tapper told Miller as he abruptly ended the aide’s air-time.

Before he was cut off, Miller fumbled when asked whether Trump met the Russian operatives after his son, Donald Trump Jr., got together with them in the infamous June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower. In an explosive new book by journalist Michael Wolff, former White House chief strategist Steven Bannon suggested there was “zero” chance Trump Jr. didn’t take the Russians to meet his father.

Despite having “no knowledge” of the meeting, Miller said he was certain all of the allegations in Wolff’s book are “a pure work of fiction” and “nothing but a pile of trash through and through.”

(Bannon on Sunday issued a statement backpedaling on his comments to Wolff about the meeting, which he had called “treasonous.”)

Miller, during his CNN appearance, praised Trump as “a self-made billionaire who revolutionized reality TV and who has changed the course of our politics.” He also lauded Trump as a “political genius.”

“I’m sure he’s watching and he’s happy that you said that,” Tapper responded.

Miller, in turn, scolded Tapper for making “condescending” and “snide” remarks and bashed CNN for airing “24 hours of negative, anti-Trump, hysterical coverage.”

I think the viewers right now can ascertain who is being hysterical,” Tapper responded. “You’re being obsequious, you’re being a factotum in order to please [Trump].”

While Trump had a decidedly different view of the segment, many Twitter users applauded Tapper’s decision to pull the plug on Miller.

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#1512155 --- 01/08/18 01:49 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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If Oprah beat him in 2020, Trump would truly lose his shit.
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Oprah Winfrey's rousing speech at the Golden Globes stirred more than a standing ovation –– it inflamed rumors that she may run for president http://cbsn.ws/2qB8OmB

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#1512157 --- 01/08/18 01:51 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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She would eat. Trump. Alive.
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#1512161 --- 01/08/18 02:05 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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“I want all of the girls watching here now to know, that a new day is on the horizon.”

Oprah receives a standing ovation after being awarded the 2018 Cecil B. de Mille award at the Golden Globes.

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#1512162 --- 01/08/18 02:07 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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The US started looking foolish the day you were elected Donald and it gets worse every single day.

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Trump says the U.S. is "not going to look foolish as long as I'm here"

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#1512245 --- 01/09/18 01:39 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://secondnexus.com/news/gordon-hump...f902fe1e08be610

by Amelia Mavis Christnot January 9, 2018

Former Republican Senator Gordon Humphrey minces no words when it comes to his perception of the fitness of Donald Trump to be president. Humphrey went so far as to endorse Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election after Trump won the Republican Party nomination.

In a recent interview on MSNBC’s “All In With Chris Hayes”, Humphrey gave another detailed list of his concerns regarding the president’s conduct while in office. He also called out his former colleagues and Republican Party members for enabling that behavior.

“The talk about comparing nuclear buttons, whether there was sexual innuendo in that or not was just outrageous… I mean… you don’t… The president apparently has no understanding of what a nuclear war would be like,” Humphrey stated.

This is extremely dangerous. The man is irrational. He’s an ignoramus. He’s totally unequipped and unprepared for the office. He’s incurious, unread… and on top of that he’s a man of depraved character and probably mentally ill. I mean delusional. He makes up his own reality, and believes it. “

These Twitters! We’ve got two years now of evidence the man is weird, bizarre, not of sound mind. He’s surely mentally ill to some degree. Precisely what that diagnosis might be is really immaterial because it’s the effect that counts and the president is undermining the national institutions that are of such great value to us.”

The First Amendment, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press to name the most important. And he’s endangering national security with all his saber rattling and comparison of his nuclear button with that of the North Korean dictator.”

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#1512254 --- 01/09/18 04:42 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-someone-die-because-of-the-steele-dossier/

CBS News January 9, 2018, 5:17 PM

Did someone die because of the Steele dossier?

An attorney for the co-founder of the opposition research firm that sought to dig up dirt on President Trump says someone has died as a result of their findings.

On Monday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein released a 312-page transcript of Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson's August interview with the Senate Judiciary Committee. In that transcript, Simpson attorney Josh Levy tells the committee that his client "wants to be very careful to protect his sources."

"Somebody's already been killed as a result of the publication of this dossier and no harm should come to anybody related to this honest work," Levy explains.

The dossier, which alleges that then-candidate Donald Trump colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election campaign, has never been substantiated. It was written by a former British spy, Christopher Steele, and paid for by Fusion GPS, which was operating as a client of the Clinton campaign.

Steele's dossier was published in full by Buzzfeed in January 2017 after being offered to numerous news outlets. And it has been speculated that Oleg Erovinkin, a former KGB general and chief of staff to Igor Sechin, was one of the primary sources for the document.

Sechin, the CEO of state-owned Russian oil giant Rosneft, plays a major role in the dossier, which accuses him of having secret meetings with Trump campaign officials as an intermediary of the Russian government. Erovinkin was found dead in his car due in December 2016, according to Russian media. It was later claimed that he died of a heart attack.

Conspiracy theorists have long speculated that Erovinkin is the source of the claims involving Sechin. However, there is no evidence that has emerged to back up this assertion.

Erovinkin is one of a number of high-profile Russians who died in the months after the 2016 election.

Mr. Trump has repeatedly dismissed the Steele memo as "fake news." Neither Levy nor his client elaborated on the identity of the person who allegedly died as a result of the memo's publication, which took place after Erovinkin died.

In May, FBI director Robert Mueller was appointed special counsel to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election. Mueller's team and the White House have discussed the possibility of interviewing Mr. Trump in the near future.

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#1512261 --- 01/09/18 07:30 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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FBI knew of possible Trump-Russia collusion, according to Glenn Simpson’s Senate testimony

by Ken Dilanian and Mike Memoli

WASHINGTON — By the time the FBI sat down in September 2016 for a full interview with the ex-British spy who had been researching Donald Trump’s Russia connections, the bureau had already received information raising concerns about possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to a transcript made public Tuesday.

Glenn Simpson, a former newspaper reporter and the founder of a research firm called Fusion GPS, spoke to the Senate Judiciary Committee for more than 10 hours in August about his research into Trump, and on Tuesday more than 300 pages of his testimony were released by the committee’s ranking Democrat, Dianne Feinstein of California.

During the Senate hearing, he was asked to respond to a comment from a White House spokeswoman, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, that his was a “Democrat-linked firm” that “took money from the Russian government” and “created the phony dossier that's been the basis for all of the Russia scandal fake news."

“It's a false allegation,” he said. “It's political rhetoric to call the dossier phony. The memos are field reports of real interviews that Chris's network conducted and there's nothing phony about it. We can argue about what's prudent and what's not, but it's not a fabrication.”

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#1512263 --- 01/10/18 01:50 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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How much more do we need to know before we determine that Russia helped Trump get elected?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-hous...-putin?ref=home

White House Official Floated Withdrawing U.S. Forces to Please Putin

A member of Trump’s National Security Council staff had a radical notion: to pare back American troops in Europe as a way to curry favor with the Kremlin

A senior National Security Council official proposed withdrawing some U.S. military forces from Eastern Europe as an overture to Vladimir Putin during the early days of the Trump presidency, according to two former administration officials.

While the proposal was ultimately not adopted, it is the first known case of senior aides to Donald Trump seeking to reposition U.S. military forces to please Putin—something that smelled, to a colleague, like a return on Russia’s election-time investment in President Trump.

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#1512266 --- 01/10/18 06:23 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Federal judge temporarily blocks Trump’s decision to end DACA
Sudhin Thanawala and Andrew Dalton, The Associated Press Published 11:27 p.m. ET Jan. 9, 2018 | Updated 5:51 a.m. ET Jan. 10, 2018

A federal judge on Tuesday night temporarily blocked the Trump administration’s decision to end a program protecting young immigrants from deportation. Time



SAN FRANCISCO — A federal judge on Tuesday night temporarily blocked the Trump administration’s decision to end a program protecting young immigrants from deportation.

U.S. District Judge William Alsup granted a request by California and other plaintiffs to prevent President Trump from ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program while their lawsuits play out in court.

Alsup said lawyers in favor of DACA clearly demonstrated that the young immigrants “were likely to suffer serious, irreparable harm” without court action. The judge also said the lawyers have a strong chance of succeeding at trial.

DACA has protected about 800,000 people who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children or came with families who overstayed visas. The program includes hundreds of thousands of college-age students.

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced in September that the program would be phased out, saying former President Barack Obama had exceeded his authority when he implemented it in 2012.

More: In extraordinary public negotiation with Congress, Trump promises to sign DACA bill


The move sparked a flurry of lawsuits nationwide.

Alsup considered five separate lawsuits filed in Northern California, including one by the state and another by the governing board of the University of California school system.


Pushing for compromise on immigration reform, President Donald Trump urged a bipartisan group of lawmakers gathered at the White House to put "country before party" and negotiate a deal in two phases, first by addressing young immigrants. (Jan. 9) AP

During a court hearing on Dec. 20, the judge grilled an attorney for the Department of Justice over the government’s justification for ending DACA, saying many people had come to rely on it and faced a “real” and “palpable” hardship from its loss.

Alsup also questioned whether the administration had conducted a thorough review before ending the program.

Brad Rosenberg, a Justice Department attorney, said the administration considered the effects of ending DACA and decided to phase it out over time instead of cutting it immediately.

DACA recipients will be allowed to stay in the U.S. for the remainder of their two-year authorizations. Any recipient whose status was due to expire within six months also got a month to apply for another two-year term.

The Justice Department said in court documents that DACA was facing the possibility of an abrupt end by court order, but Alsup was critical of that argument.

People took out loans, enrolled in school and even made decisions about whether to get married and start families on the basis of DACA and now face “horrific” consequences from the loss of the program, said Jeffrey Davidson, an attorney for the University of California governing board.

“The government considered none of this at all when they decided to rescind DACA,” he said at the hearing.

DACA recipients are commonly referred to as “dreamers,” based on never-passed proposals in Congress called the DREAM Act that would have provided similar protections for young immigrants.

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#1512267 --- 01/10/18 06:35 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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Federal judge temporarily blocks Trump’s decision to end DACA
Sudhin Thanawala and Andrew Dalton, The Associated Press Published 11:27 p.m. ET Jan. 9, 2018 | Updated 5:51 a.m. ET Jan. 10, 2018
Thats OK. Trump is now in favor of DACA. Well that was yesterday. Today will probably be different after the hardliners tell Trump was his position is again.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...ion/1016369001/

President Trump promised Tuesday to sign what he called a "bill of love" to extend protections to 800,000 immigrants who entered the United States illegally as children — if Congress can work out the details.

"You folks are going to have to come up with a solution," Trump told 25 lawmakers in a remarkable televised negotiation at the White House. "And if you do, I'm going to sign that solution."

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#1512268 --- 01/10/18 06:44 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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ROFLMAO

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Tucker Carlson Turns On Trump: ‘What Was The Point Of Running For President?’

Fox News host Tucker Carlson has been a staunch defender of President Donald Trump, but that may have changed on Tuesday.

Carlson called it a “weird scene” when Trump met with lawmakers of both parties and indicated he’d sign just about any deal they make on immigration.

“I’m not going to say, ‘Oh, gee, I want this or I want that,’” Trump said. “I’ll be signing it, because I have a lot of confidence in the people in this room that you’re going to come up with something really good.”

Trump also indicated a willingness to protect young undocumented immigrants, known as the Dreamers.

Carlson said that’s a “completely different Donald Trump” from the one that talked tough on immigration on the campaign trail.

Carlson also noted that Trump boasts about his negotiating skills.

“He clearly has skills as a negotiator,” Carlson said. “Where were they today?”

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#1512270 --- 01/10/18 07:02 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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ROFLMAO

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Tucker Carlson Turns On Trump: ‘What Was The Point Of Running For President?’


Carlson also noted that Trump boasts about his negotiating skills.

“He clearly has skills as a negotiator,” Carlson said. “Where were they today?”


The entire televised session was clearly a sham attempting to show his mental fitness but logic has been proven decades ago, how many serial killers (not a killer but he's mental) did their crimes in public? So even they process the ability to control their impulses for a period of time but the key word "period" he will be a loose canon today especially after his DACA deadline was put oh hold since this morning.

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#1512273 --- 01/10/18 07:36 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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#1512375 --- 01/12/18 06:17 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-vote-place-president-205905037.html

Trump Impeachment Vote Will Take Place After President’s ‘Racist’ ‘Shithole’ Remarks, Democrat Says

Newsweek Tracy Lee,Newsweek 3 hours ago

Texas Democrat Al Green vowed on Friday to force another impeachment vote on the House floor next week. The announcement was made on the back of President Donald Trump’s reported description of African nations, El Salvador and Haiti as “shithole countries.”

“Congressional condemnation of racist bigotry is not enough,” Green said in a tweet. “In Congress, talk is cheap-it’s how we vote that counts. Next week, I will again bring a resolution to impeach @realDonaldTrump. I will put my vote where my mouth is.”

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#1512383 --- 01/13/18 10:41 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/maxine-waters-tears-donald-trump-112718661.html

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) did not hold back in her criticism of President Donald Trump for reportedly suggesting that Haiti and some African nations were “shithole countries.”

Trump allegedly made the comment during an Oval Office meeting with lawmakers on Thursday while arguing against restoring protections for immigrants from those areas. Trump later claimed he didn’t use those specific words, but Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), who was there at the time, said he did.

During an interview with stand-in host Joy Reid on MSNBC’s “All In With Chris Hayes” on Friday night, Waters said the U.S. was being “represented by the most despicable human being that could possibly ever walk the earth.”

“I don’t know when Americans are going to tire of this lying man,” she added.

Waters has also issued a statement regarding Trump’s reported comments, in which she called the president “a racist and indecent man with no good values.”

“Donald Trump is an embarrassment and a national disgrace,” she added. “Members of Congress have a responsibility to the American people and our democracy to impeach him.”

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#1512822 --- 01/30/18 09:41 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Seth Meyers took an in-depth look into the growing case that President Donald Trump obstructed justice on Monday’s broadcast of “Late Night.”

And there was one particular detail that Meyers couldn’t quite believe.

Namely, that in May 2017, Trump reportedly mocked the wife of then-acting FBI director Andrew McCabe for her failure to win a Virginia state Senate seat two years previously.

Per NBC News, Trump suggested McCabe “ask his wife how it feels to be a loser” during a telephone call, which he made the day after firing James Comey as director of the bureau.

“You told him to ask his wife what it’s like to be a loser?” asked Meyers. “You should ask your wife what it’s like to be married to one!”

“Awful,” Meyers added. “You are awful.”

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#1512824 --- 01/30/18 09:56 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Make no mistake, Nunes and his co-conspirators don’t believe there’s an actual Deep State conspiracy at the FBI or the intelligence agencies. This boundlessly cynical plot is an attempt to shield Donald Trump not just from Bob Mueller’s Russia investigation, but from any form of accountability or oversight. I have to give them credit their brazen effort. The coordination between Fox News, the Trump Uber Alles caucus in the House, talk radio, and the online Cray Vortex is rather impressive. In the Best Supporting Hackers role, the Russians chimed in right on cue to amplify the GOP’s message.

Call me old fashioned, but I remember when working hand-in-hand with a hostile foreign government to undermine American institutions was called “treason.” The story was falling apart even before the Moron Caucus beclowned themselves with the “Secret Society” theme, because the memo obviously hadn’t done enough to reduce the Republicans in stature and seriousness. Seizing on a single, obviously joking text message, Sen. Ron Johnson took to the microphones to describe the FBI’s alleged “Secret Society” as if he had watched Eyes Wide Shut enough times to memorize it. Fidelio, Ron. Fidelio.

When confronted with the risible absurdity of his claim, Johnson said “informants” had told them about the dark, satanic orgies of the FBI. Within hours, he denied all of it in an embarrassingly clumsy walk back. From the Trump-right obsession with “Q-Anon” as a source of Deep State gibberish to the uncritical acceptance of even the most outrageously absurd rumors, the GOP is becoming defined as a party of conspiracy. It’s is a bad look for a governing party, and it’s getting worse by the day.

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#1512993 --- 02/04/18 04:20 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-driving-us-toward-175409788.html

Fox News and Sean Hannity have, through their own brand of propaganda, successfully manipulated the president of the United States into taking action that the FBI has “grave concerns” about and that his own Justice Department described as “extraordinarily reckless.”

Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee took an unprecedented vote this week to declassify a memo prepared by Republican staff of Chairman Devin Nunes that accuses the DOJ and FBI of abusing their authority to obtain a surveillance order from the FISA court. On Friday, Trump chose to release the document.

The Daily Beast reported that “Trump has been in regular contact with Hannity over the phone in recent weeks, as the Fox News prime-time star and Trump ally has encouraged the prompt release” of the memo.

“Hannity’s persistent advocacy reinforced Trump’s already growing determination to get that memo into the public realm,” the outlet said.

The Washington Post reported that Trump “did not actually see the memo ... until Wednesday afternoon.”

The president has now willfully ignored the director of the FBI (who he appointed) and his own deputy attorney general in favor of Hannity. Remember that the next time Trump and Republicans talk about being the political party that will restore law and order in America.

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#1514362 --- 04/27/18 09:38 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: Formermac]
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I just checked and yup, Trump is still your President and has not been impeached.
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Trump for 2020!

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#1514367 --- 04/27/18 12:53 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: The Mechanic]
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I just checked and yup, Trump is still your President and has not been impeached.

From Twitter

Brian Krassenstein
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1h1 hour ago

- 4 guilty pleas
- 19 indictments
- 1 Trump Tower meeting with a confessed Russian Spy
- 2 Attempts to set up back channels with Russia

"No Evidence" of collusion, just a series of impossible coincidences centering around a man who lies to America Daily.

YEAH!
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#1514368 --- 04/27/18 12:55 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

Donald Trump has repeatedly labeled his political opponents liars. He dubbed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) Lyin' Ted when it became clear that Cruz was a serious rival for his nomination; he called Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) an "even bigger liar" than Cruz. He dubbed Dr. Ben Carson a "pathological liar" and said former Florida Governor Jeb Bush's lies were almost as bad as Cruz's. Trump has termed virtually every mildly adversarial media member a liar, too.

But there's only one truly massive liar in this race: Donald Trump. When Politico attempted to measure how many lies Trump told over the course of 4.6 hours of speeches, they found that he lied, on average, once every five minutes. When Huffington Post catalogued his lies over the course of just one town hall event, they came up with 71 lies.

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#1514369 --- 04/27/18 12:57 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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President Trump made 2,140 false or misleading claims in his first year

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#1514373 --- 04/27/18 01:15 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: The Mechanic]
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I just checked and yup, Trump is still your President and has not been impeached.
Its coming. The wheels of justice grind slowly but they do grind.

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A federal judge in Washington on Friday threw out a civil lawsuit brought by President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman that sought to challenge the authority of the special counsel in the Russia investigation.

The decision was a blow to Paul Manafort's defense against numerous charges brought by special counsel Robert Mueller and a rejection of his use of a civil case to attack his criminal prosecution. It was the first of Manafort's challenges to Mueller's authority. He has made similar arguments in moving to dismiss the two criminal cases against him.

In her 24-page ruling , U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson, who also presides in one of Manafort's criminal cases, rejected his request for an order protecting him from future prosecutions by Mueller's team.

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#1514376 --- 04/27/18 01:38 PM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: The Mechanic]
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I just checked and yup, Trump is still your President and has not been impeached.
It is starting to look like a race to see who brings him down first.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/michael-avenatti-stunning-prediction-ll-172119343.html

Michael Avenatti’s stunning prediction: We’ll depose Trump before Mueller


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#1514404 --- 04/29/18 07:44 AM Re: Trump Impeachment [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
I just checked and yup, Trump is still your President and has not been impeached.
It is starting to look like a race to see who brings him down first.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/michael-avenatti-stunning-prediction-ll-172119343.html

Michael Avenatti’s stunning prediction: We’ll depose Trump before Mueller






pet·u·lant

adjective
(of a person or their manner) childishly sulky or bad-tempered.
"he was moody and petulant"
synonyms: peevish, bad-tempered, querulous, pettish, fretful, cross, irritable, sulky, snappish, crotchety, touchy, tetchy, testy, fractious, grumpy, disgruntled, crabby; informalgrouchy, cranky
"he's as petulant as a spoiled child"


We are witnessing any of these adjectives in no necessary order but a guaranteed negative response every single day from Trump and his supporters. Trump can see the end, evident by his lack of attendance at the WH correspondent dinner......the truth is sometimes hard to absorb and deal with in spite of a rally in another state which attempts to hide the obvious.......he's close to being done.

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