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#1512024 --- 01/06/18 01:24 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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It is amazing that this Native American situation has went [gone] on for how many decades now?

IDK... how many decades have passed since the first arrival of Europeans? smirk
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#1512026 --- 01/06/18 01:34 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
It is amazing that this Native American situation has went [gone] on for how many decades now?

IDK... how many decades have passed since the first arrival of Europeans? smirk
Hundred of years of course. So is this situation going to go on for hundreds of years more and nothing is resolved? That is what it is starting to look like to me.
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#1512048 --- 01/06/18 04:42 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
how many decades have passed since the first arrival ?[/size]


how many decades has it been since your arrival?
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#1512052 --- 01/06/18 05:01 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
I'm also willing to address the issue of restitution.


more false statements by timbo
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#1512062 --- 01/06/18 06:37 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: bluezone]
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https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch...tm_source=atltw

Ancient Infant's DNA Reveals New Clues to How the Americas Were Peopled

Her 11,500-year-old remains suggest that all Native Americans can trace their ancestry to the same founding population.

Around 11,500 years ago, at a place that is now called the Upward Sun River, in the region that has since been named Alaska, two girls died. One was a late-term fetus; the other, probably her cousin, was six weeks old. They were both covered in red ochre and buried in a circular pit, along with hunting weapons made from bones and antlers. “There was intentionality in the burial ceremony,” says Ben Potter from the University of Alaska at Fairbanks, who uncovered their skeletons in 2013. “These were certainly children who were well-loved.”

Now, several millennia after their short lives ended, these infants have become important all over again. Within their DNA, Potter’s team has found clues about when and how the first peoples came to the Americas.

They did so from East Asia—that much is clear. Today, Russia and Alaska are separated by the waters of the Bering Strait. But tens of thousands of years ago, when sea levels were lower, that gap was bridged by continuous land, hundreds of miles wide and covered in woodlands and meadows. This was Beringia. It was a harsh world, but you could walk across it—and people did.
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#1512063 --- 01/06/18 07:02 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
It is amazing that this Native American situation has went [gone] on for how many decades now?

IDK... how many decades have passed since the first arrival of Europeans? smirk
Hundred of years of course. So is this situation going to go on for hundreds of years more and nothing is resolved? That is what it is starting to look like to me.

And of course, by "resolved", you actually mean "for indians to give everything else to the white man." frown
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#1512064 --- 01/06/18 07:04 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
I'm also willing to address the issue of restitution.

more false statements by timbo

Another imbecilic statement by bluezone.
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#1512073 --- 01/06/18 07:31 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
It is amazing that this Native American situation has went [gone] on for how many decades now?

IDK... how many decades have passed since the first arrival of Europeans? smirk
Hundred of years of course. So is this situation going to go on for hundreds of years more and nothing is resolved? That is what it is starting to look like to me.

And of course, by "resolved", you actually mean "for indians to give everything else to the white man." frown
Everything else? crazy I have no idea how to resolve this, do you? I have heard no proposal from you.
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#1512091 --- 01/06/18 11:43 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
And of course, by "resolved", you actually mean "for indians to give everything else to the white man." frown
Everything else? crazy I have no idea how to resolve this, do you? I have heard no proposal from you.

Let's begin by having you itemize possible concessions on your part, shall we? Three should be a good start.
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#1512092 --- 01/06/18 11:50 PM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: kyle585]
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I can't take you seriously when you refuse to tell us what your solution is to this "situation" as you described it.

Hey, you're the one who keeps using the word to describe NA dissatisfaction, don't you DARE try to hang that albatross around MY neck, Pal.

You've got a LOT of nerve, hypocrite.
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#1512098 --- 01/07/18 02:44 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
And of course, by "resolved", you actually mean "for indians to give everything else to the white man." frown
Everything else? crazy I have no idea how to resolve this, do you? I have heard no proposal from you.

Let's begin by having you itemize possible concessions on your part, shall we? Three should be a good start.
Concessions on my part? They are full fledged American citizens and yet they don't pay some of the taxes the rest of us do. What concessions do you think me and other American citizens should make to these people who like the benefits of being American citizens on one hand and on the other hand declare themselves a sovereign nation?
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#1512099 --- 01/07/18 02:47 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
I can't take you seriously when you refuse to tell us what your solution is to this "situation" as you described it.

Hey, you're the one who keeps using the word to describe NA dissatisfaction, don't you DARE try to hang that albatross around MY neck, Pal.
why are they dissatisfied? They got the best of both worlds now. Their biggest problem here locally is two NA groups fighting with each other and the US court system trying to solve it for this so called sovereign nation. And a tax payer funded American government of Indian Affairs also trying to keep them from each other throats. And lots of lawyers getting rich also.
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#1512108 --- 01/07/18 09:04 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
I'm also willing to address the issue of restitution.

more false statements by timbo

Another imbecilic statement by bluezone.


so where are your examples of the restitution that YOU - YES - YOU have brought forth to the 'tribes'?

yes you !!! not the federal government, not the state government, not the local government, not former president bill clinton, not former president obama, not former president reagan, not hillary clinton, not the man on the man, not the tooth fairy, not gumby, not mother nature, not bambi but YOU!!!


now do have you have done for over a decade and skirt the issue, refuse to reply or reply with your usual double talk response to show yet again that you lack any integrity
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#1512110 --- 01/07/18 09:37 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
I'm also willing to address the issue of restitution.
Originally Posted By: Timbo
don't you DARE try to hang that albatross around MY neck, Pal.


Pal
you did it on your own
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#1512121 --- 01/07/18 11:21 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
now do have you have done for over a decade and skirt the issue, refuse to reply or reply with your usual double talk response to show yet again that you lack any integrity

Why don't you try that again? Only this time... in ENGLISH. crazy
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#1512123 --- 01/07/18 11:34 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
I'm also willing to address the issue of restitution.
Originally Posted By: Timbo
don't you DARE try to hang that albatross around MY neck, Pal.
Pal
you did it on your own

Do you somehow believe that by asserting a hypothetical connection between two utterly disparate statements, that you're by any means, making a cogent point?

If the point is that by knowingly playing fast-and-loose with the facts, you're actually the one with integrity issues, then yes... perhaps you do have a point.
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#1512124 --- 01/07/18 11:37 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
I'm also willing to address the issue of restitution.
Originally Posted By: Timbo
don't you DARE try to hang that albatross around MY neck, Pal.
Pal
you did it on your own

Originally Posted By: bluezone
you lack any integrity

Do you somehow believe that by asserting a hypothetical connection between two utterly disparate statements/discussions, that you're by any means, making a cogent point?

If the point is that by knowingly playing fast-and-loose with the facts, you're actually the one with integrity issues, then yes... perhaps you do have a point.
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#1512167 --- 01/08/18 04:13 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
now do have you have done for over a decade and skirt the issue, refuse to reply or reply with your usual double talk response to show yet again that you lack any integrity

Why don't you try that again? Only this time... in ENGLISH. crazy


now do what you have done for over a decade and skirt the issue, refuse to reply or reply with your usual double talk response to show yet again that you lack any integrity
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#1512168 --- 01/08/18 04:18 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
I'm also willing to address the issue of restitution.

more false statements by timbo

Another imbecilic statement by bluezone.


so where are your examples of the restitution that YOU - YES - YOU have brought forth to the 'tribes'?

yes you !!! not the federal government, not the state government, not the local government, not former president bill clinton, not former president obama, not former president reagan, not hillary clinton, not the man on the man, not the tooth fairy, not gumby, not mother nature, not bambi but YOU!!!


now do what you have done for over a decade and skirt the issue, refuse to reply or reply with your usual double talk response to show yet again that you lack any integrity
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#1512384 --- 01/13/18 10:46 AM Re: Cayugas create private police [Re: bluezone]
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/on-...kushpmg00000009

As temperatures dropped below zero on South Dakota’s Pine Ridge Indian Reservation earlier this month, one young girl felt she had had enough.

She was tired of feeling cold inside her home as temperatures plummeted, which they do often there. She had enough of watching her parents constantly struggle to scrounge up wood to heat the house.

The 12-year-old girl went to the bathroom and tried to kill herself.

“She was tired of waking up cold,” Jimmy Two Bulls, a Pine Ridge resident who’s helping out the girl’s family, told HuffPost. “Reservation life is a hard life to live. It’s a struggle.”

Suicides reached record highs in South Dakota last year. Oglala Lakota County, which is where the Pine Ridge reservation is located, was one of five counties in the state with the highest rates of suicide. People who have experience dealing with depression and suicide on the reservation say this is tied, in part, to the devastatingly difficult conditions residents face.

While there’s no indication that suicides increase during the winter, local experts say winter’s relentless conditions can lead to feelings of despair. A 2016 study conducted through the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs found that there’s a close correlation between poverty rates and suicide rates in the U.S.

“It’s tough, and it all builds up,” Eileen Janis, 57, who co-runs Oglala Sioux Tribe Suicide Prevention, told HuffPost. “And you say: ‘To hell with it. I just want to die.’”

Pine Ridge, South Dakota: Youth suicide on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation remains a pressing concern. Oglala Sioux Tribe Suicide Prevention, the reservation’s sole suicide prevention program, conducts outreach and collaborates with health professionals and religious leaders to place those at risk into appropriate programs.

Janis’s organization is the reservation’s sole suicide prevention group, and she and just one other counselor, Yvonne DeCory, serve the reservation’s 40,000 residents.

Both women keep their phones on 24 hours a day, seven days a week. DeCory said they may get calls about three or four suicide attempts a night, year round.

Pine Ridge, which is larger than Delaware and Rhode Island combined, is in the third-poorest county in the United States. It’s home to the Oglala Lakota, a tribe that’s part of the Sioux people. Per capita income in the county is $9,150, and 80 percent of residents are unemployed.

The pervasive poverty forces residents to make impossible choices: whether to pay to heat a home or buy enough food to feed the family, for example.

Suicide is the most severe risk advocates worry about during the winter. But it’s not the only one. People living without heat are also susceptible to hypothermia, and older members of the community are particularly vulnerable because their health could already be compromised. Those who rely on space heaters run the danger of starting a house fire. Children who don’t have access to sufficient heat struggle to sleep at night and then aren’t able to concentrate in school, Alice Phelps, 47, principal of the Wounded Knee School District, told HuffPost.

“The children act up at school. But when we talk to them one-on-one, the bottom line is they didn’t sleep that night,” Phelps, who grew up on the reservation, said. “They’ll say: ‘I didn’t have a blanket. I gave it to my little sister. I was cold.’ It just breaks your heart.”

Winter is also the time children appreciate school the most, because the building is heated and they’re guaranteed at least one hot meal. Attendance is near perfect at this time of year, Phelps said.

“They want to be in school,” Phelps said. “It’s warm. It’s safe. Their immediate needs are met.
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