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#1509290 --- 11/19/17 07:48 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
He accepted responsibility to try and save his butt and senate seat! If he was really accepting responsibility he would resign!
Yes I don't doubt that. There was a little talk of him being a presidential candidate in 2020. That is now done. He might of saved his senate seat but there is a big difference between what he did and what Moore or Trump are accused of doing. Huge difference.

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#1509300 --- 11/19/17 07:57 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: kyle585]
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No difference on accusations! Only difference is political party affiliation!

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#1509310 --- 11/19/17 08:06 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
No difference on accusations! Only difference is political party affiliation!
Wow. How blind can you be?

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#1509312 --- 11/19/17 08:11 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: kyle585]
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Not looking at it politically like you Kyle!

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#1509348 --- 11/20/17 04:12 AM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/mueller-interviews-white-house-officials/index.html

Investigators working for special counsel Robert Mueller are scheduled to interview additional senior White House officials in the coming weeks, adding to their list of high-profile interviews and pushing the investigation closer to President Donald Trump and his family.

On the slate are White House communications director Hope Hicks, White House counsel Don McGahn and Josh Raffel, a communications aide to White House senior adviser Jared Kushner. Other staff are also expected to be interviewed.

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#1509349 --- 11/20/17 04:16 AM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic...in-very-n822206

Republican Sen. Susan Collins said Sunday that the sexual misconduct, harassment and assault allegations from more than a dozen women against President Donald Trump “remain very disturbing” as a wave of women continue to come forward with claims against powerful men.

When asked on ABC’s “This Week” about Trump’s claims that his accusers were all lying, the senior senator from Maine said that she did not support Trump in part because of those very allegations against him.

"He did say that [all the women are lying] and President Trump was not my choice for the Republican nominee for president and I did not support him in part because of the way that all of these reports about how he was treating women,” she said.

Collins has previously said that she wrote in Rep. Paul Ryan's name for president when she voted in 2016.

But "[Trump] is president now and I am working with him on some issues but those allegations remain very disturbing,” she added.

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#1509415 --- 11/21/17 12:05 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Senator Frankengroper gropes Arianna Huffington

November 21, 2017 BFH Uncategorized 10

The photographer on a shoot where Franken groped Arianna Huffington remembers Huffington being disturbed.

NY Post-

“Franken was clowning around, but it really isn’t funny,” said a source from the shoot. “That’s his tactic, pretend like it’s all a big joke. Arianna was pushing his hands away. He was groping her. There was some fun attached to it, but she wasn’t enjoying it. She definitely told him to stop and pushed him away.”

The creepy pol — who on Monday was accused of squeezing a constituent’s butt during a photo op in 2010 and who was caught posing with his mitts over a sleeping ex-Playboy model’s breasts in a 2006 snap — was hardly hiding his hands-on approach, according to the source.

“Franken stood there with his hand on her bottom for a long time, because there are numerous frames, each taken seconds apart, and his hand was there the whole time — his hand wasn’t just there for a quick moment,” the source said.

Huffington dismisses it-

Huffington, however, denies anything was amiss — saying the touchy-feely photos were a nod to a TV sketch they did together in 1996.

The progressive Arianna admits to presenting groping as something that should be portrayed as “naugh-tee”, playful and something to be snickered about.

Out of context the pictures are a very teachable moment, are they?

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#1509417 --- 11/21/17 12:13 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not looking at it politically like you Kyle!

Yes, you're good at doing that when you mistakenly believe that it somehow helps your position(s).
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Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

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#1509454 --- 11/21/17 10:14 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: Timbo]
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If I was keeping count DUMBO the Democrats are winning in the pervert contest hands down! LOL!

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#1509474 --- 11/22/17 02:55 AM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
If I was keeping count DUMBO the Democrats are winning in the pervert contest hands down! LOL!
You don't count very well. The biggest pervert lives in the White House. You know the guy with the small hands. LOL

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#1509491 --- 11/22/17 08:31 AM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1509492 --- 11/22/17 08:41 AM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: ThomasDecker]
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A conservative Republican is someone who gets violently angry when anyone tells the truth about our lying president.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

Lyin' Donald: 101 Of Trump's Greatest Lies

Donald Trump has repeatedly labeled his political opponents liars. He dubbed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) Lyin' Ted when it became clear that Cruz was a serious rival for his nomination; he called Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) an "even bigger liar" than Cruz. He dubbed Dr. Ben Carson a "pathological liar" and said former Florida Governor Jeb Bush's lies were almost as bad as Cruz's. Trump has termed virtually every mildly adversarial media member a liar, too.

But there's only one truly massive liar in this race: Donald Trump. When Politico attempted to measure how many lies Trump told over the course of 4.6 hours of speeches, they found that he lied, on average, once every five minutes

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#1509493 --- 11/22/17 08:48 AM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: kyle585]
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Harry Litman has a nice article in todays FL Times. I was researching his name and found this.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-...0714-story.html

Op-Ed Why did Don Jr.'s emails surface? Because Robert Mueller is already changing Washington's lying ways

For more than a year, the most senior officials in the Trump administration have adamantly, even scornfully, denied that there was any contact between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. The bombshell report earlier this week of Donald Trump Jr.’s efforts to secure dirt on Hillary Clinton from Russian officials — and his June 9, 2016, meeting with the supposed purveyor of that dirt as well as then-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and his father’s aide Jared Kushner — has put the lie to those denials.

Why has the truth emerged now? A careful parsing of the events of the last few days points to the importance of the federal criminal investigation overseen by a stalwart special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. His behind-the-scenes work already has changed the rules of the game for the White House and contributed to a more accurate public accounting.

The New York Times, which broke the story, reports that it was Kushner’s legal team that recently discovered the now-infamous email chain in which Trump Jr. was told that a senior Russian government official had documents that “would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” to which Trump Jr. quickly replied, “If it’s what you say I love it.”

And here is where Mueller’s investigation has rewritten the rule book for senior White House officials. To receive a security clearance, Kushner had to complete a form — the SF-86 — detailing, under penalty of perjury, every contact he had with foreign government officials in the last seven years. (I dealt with SF-86s as a deputy assistant attorney general at the Department of Justice.)

Prosecutions for lying on an SF-86 are rare, but they happen, and Kushner already has one strike against him: He first signed and submitted his SF-86 without listing more than 100 applicable contacts with foreign leaders or officials. His lawyer said the questionnaire was submitted prematurely; it took two tries to fully supplement it. The Trump Jr. emails reportedly surfaced when Kushner was going through his records as part of that process.

In a pre-Mueller world, Kushner might have approached the matter casually and, if anyone asked, pleaded ignorance and a busy schedule. That approach, however, is no longer feasible. In the midst of a wide-ranging criminal investigation, with multiple targets, the threat of a perjury prosecution is the sort of offense zealous and sophisticated federal prosecutors — and there is no doubt that Mueller’s team fits that description — could bring to bear.

All of this would lead a good Washington counsel — and Kushner’s lawyers, Jamie Gorelick initially, and then suddenly on Friday, criminal defense specialist Abbe Lowell, are among the best — to conclude that Kushner needed to “get ahead of the story” and turn over the emails (a development the Times learned from people “familiar with” Kushner’s application, who requested anonymity because the questionnaire is not a public document).

Absent the special counsel investigation and the potential legal jeopardy for Kushner, the email chain very possibly would never have seen the light of day. Indeed, President Trump and Trump Jr. at first decided to provide a dishonest account of the June 2016 meeting, omitting the offer of dirt on the Clinton campaign. It was only after further reporting in the New York Times and finally its plan to publish the actual emails that Trump Jr. fessed up.

The threats represented by the Mueller investigation are having additional consequences within the White House, familiar to veterans of previous scandals. Multiple accounts suggest that the Trump Jr. emails have given rise to a circular firing squad in the West Wing that we are told features widespread suspicions of Kushner. These kinds of effects will only get worse as Mueller’s work advances.

Perhaps no quality has more stunned and frustrated the president’s critics than his brazen willingness to lie. Trump frequently appears to have no independent regard for truth, to see veracity in purely expedient terms: What he can get away with in public debate. More dumbfounding, he and others in the White House do seem to get away with it, ridiculing plainly objective accounts as “fake news.”


But the prospect of genuine legal jeopardy upends the calculation, certainly for Trump’s subordinates, who have future careers to lose, families to raise and, unlike the president, no general insulation from criminal prosecution. It is probable that some powerful people will be going to jail as a result of the Mueller investigation. Among the likeliest candidates are those who don’t realize that the game has changed, and that in the ambit of the special counsel investigation, and the courts of law, a lie is a lie.

Harry Litman is a former U.S. attorney, appointed by President Bill Clinton, and deputy assistant attorney general. He teaches at UCLA School of Law and practices law at Constantine Cannon.


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#1509539 --- 11/22/17 06:00 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: kyle585]
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Remember when Trump said he was only going to hire the best? What a steaming pile of bullcrap.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-wants-ivanka-jared-223010751.html

President Donald Trump has told his daughter Ivanka Trump, and her husband, Jared Kushner, to move back to New York, fueling rumors of a strained relationship between his son-in-law and senior adviser, according to a new report.

Trump is pressuring the couple to move back home to escape the negative press coverage, Vanity Fair reported Tuesday.

“He keeps pressuring them to go,” a source told the magazine.

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#1509541 --- 11/22/17 06:05 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
If I was keeping count DUMBO the Democrats are winning in the pervert contest hands down! LOL!
Baloney.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/22/politics/texas-joe-barton-apology-graphic-picture/index.html

Texas Republican Rep. Joe Barton on Wednesday apologized for not using "better judgment" while separated from his wife and in consensual relationships with women.

The statement comes in response to an anonymous tweet that included a nude image of Barton. Sarah Dodd of Dodd Communications, who is helping Barton respond to the image, confirmed that the image is of him.


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#1509548 --- 11/22/17 07:24 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: ThomasDecker]
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UH-OH: Just A Quarter of Minnesotans Say They Want To Keep Sen. Al Franken




ByEmily Zanotti
November 22, 2017
http://www.dailywire.com/news/23895/uh-oh-just-quarter-minnesotans-say-they-want-keep-emily-zanotti

Sen. Al Franken says he isn't interested in retiring, even though he's now been accused of sexual impropriety with two women — but his constituents may have other ideas.

According to a new poll from local Minnesota ABC affiliate, KSTP, only around 22% of Sen. Franken's constituents believe he should remain in office now that he's the subject of sexual harassment allegations. A full third of respondents say the Minnesota Senator should resign.

Thirty-six percent say they will wait until a Senate Ethics probe concludes its investigation to decide whether they'll support their embattled legislator.

Franken doesn't fare much better when respondents are sectioned out by party. Fourteen percent of Democrats want Franken to resign immediately and 46% say they'll wait out a Senate investigation. Only 33% of Democrats say they definitely want Franken to stay in office, regardless.

KSTP says it conducted the poll Monday night, just days after Leeann Tweeden revealed that Franken had forced her to kiss him during a USO tour of Iraq and Afghanistan in the early 1990s, then posed for a picture groping a sleeping Tweeden on the pair's journey back home. A second woman came forward over the weekend to say that Franken had squeezed her bottom as they two posed for a photo at the Minnesota State Fair.

The poll is bad news for Franken, who says he'll submit to a Senate Ethics probe but won't even consider dropping out of Congress unless he's pushed. Instead, Franken says, he'll spend his Thanksgiving break considering his actions and reflecting on how he should evolve as a human being.

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#1509549 --- 11/22/17 07:32 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: ThomasDecker]
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That makes Franken's approval rating a little lower than Trumps approval rating but not by much.

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#1509550 --- 11/22/17 07:33 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker



Yet, the disturbing fact here, we have 2 Republicans who possesses the propensity for being attracted to young girls....Moore and Trump
The more(no pun intended) they both are confronted, the anger comes out. So tommy, this being the case, Trump and Moore are RINOs

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#1509551 --- 11/22/17 07:58 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: Formermac]
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Victims of a unethical man but Trumpites speak only of Conservative/liberal.......here comes another brick.

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#1509555 --- 11/22/17 08:08 PM Re: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It [Re: ThomasDecker]
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