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#1508729 --- 11/11/17 08:38 AM God Bless Our Veterans
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#1508733 --- 11/11/17 08:59 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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A salute to the men and Women who risked or gave their lives for this country. What's sad is the fact that one idiot in the White House came along and diminish that fact by taking up disparaging remarks toward several surviving family members.

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#1508736 --- 11/11/17 09:03 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
A salute to the men and Women who risked or gave their lives for this country. What's sad is the fact that one idiot in the White House came along and diminish that fact by taking up disparaging remarks toward several surviving family members.


You are that stupid ...God help you.

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#1508738 --- 11/11/17 09:10 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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This coming from an adult that carries the mentality of a child. Yes as children we thought our parents as crazy but time moves on and one must grow up.....when will you make that move? BTW, see how you submit a post and someone counter? but sadly who derails their own submission by going off topic? Yes I'm laughing!!!!!!!

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#1508743 --- 11/11/17 09:46 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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The last "idiot" in the WH gutted the military and did little to restore dignity and respect for our wounded/dismembered veterans! I'll take the NEW occupant's efforts over the OLD one !!!!!

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#1508744 --- 11/11/17 09:48 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: wedggie]
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Originally Posted By: wedggie
The last "idiot" in the WH gutted the military and did little to restore dignity and respect for our wounded/dismembered veterans! I'll take the NEW occupant's efforts over the OLD one !!!!!

Agree!

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#1508745 --- 11/11/17 09:53 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
This coming from an adult that carries the mentality of a child. Yes as children we thought our parents as crazy but time moves on and one must grow up.....when will you make that move? BTW, see how you submit a post and someone counter? but sadly who derails their own submission by going off topic? Yes I'm laughing!!!!!!!


Sorry genius, but you brought up the white house, I didn't.

Its got to be hard for you being that stupid that you don't even know what you posted.

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#1508746 --- 11/11/17 09:56 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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LOL, amazing that you took a break to get your thoughts together and come back with more inaccuracies,please go back and read when we went South. Note the current debate while you foolishly stay off topic.

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#1508747 --- 11/11/17 09:57 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
A salute to the men and Women who risked or gave their lives for this country. What's sad is the fact that one idiot in the White House came along and diminish that fact by taking up disparaging remarks toward several surviving family members.


Now note the next post after this......LMAO

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#1508748 --- 11/11/17 10:00 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Have A Respectful Veterans Day.

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#1508749 --- 11/11/17 10:01 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Thank you.

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#1508751 --- 11/11/17 10:06 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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#1508752 --- 11/11/17 10:09 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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#1508753 --- 11/11/17 10:50 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: wedggie]
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Originally Posted By: wedggie
The last "idiot" in the WH gutted the military and did little to restore dignity and respect for our wounded/dismembered veterans! I'll take the NEW occupant's efforts over the OLD one !!!!!

As a Veteran and former Navy weapons system analyst, allow me to point out the wholesale idiocy of those comments:

Make no mistake... Republicans were the ones to reject multiple Obama/Democrat proposed programs that would over the long-run have dramatically improved medical care, pay, benefits and housing for needy/suffering veterans, while providing presisely zero as replacement. Trump's record so far hasn't produced anything but partisan platitudes and empty-handed jingoism.

To suggest (for instance) that during a decade of near financial ruin, that decommissioning dated weapons systems with fewer yet immeasurably more effective modernized systems somehow qualifies as a "gutting" of our arsenals, is abjectly false and intensionally dishonest and misleading. Your comments couldn't be further from the truth. Or are you suggesting that the US Army Cavalry should replace one hundred MRAPS with one thousand horses, just because those who can't think are capable of counting? whistle

If your intention here, is to support our veterans, then start by reporting the actual facts, not some long-debunked false political narratives.



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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fa...litary-spending
https://www.npr.org/2016/04/29/476048024/fact-check-has-president-obama-depleted-the-military
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...ggest_ever.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/fact-check-trump-military.html
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#1508760 --- 11/11/17 11:41 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
What's sad is the fact that one idiot in the White House came along and diminish that fact by taking up disparaging remarks toward several surviving family members.
And he also said a man who was a POW for five years was not a war hero. That is totally disgusting.
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#1508762 --- 11/11/17 12:11 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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A lot of cold war veterans must be turning over in their grave over this disgusting situation.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/love-thee-romantic-history-trump-154647325.html

How Do I Love Thee? A Romantic History of Trump's Praise for Putin

Newsweek Tom Porter,Newsweek 2 hours 20 minutes ago

Allegations that Russia helped lift President Donald Trump to the White House have cast a shadow over his administration—and Trump’s effusive praise for Russia’s strongman leader Vladimir Putin has done nothing to dispel suspicions of a covert pact.

Trump’s comments after speaking to Putin Saturday provoked a chorus of criticism after the president said he was willing to accept the Russian president’s assurances that the country did not meddle in the 2016 U.S. election.

This is despite U.S. intelligence agencies unanimously declaring that Russia did interfere in the election in a bid to tip the contest in Trump’s favor.

2016

In an interview with Fox Business’ Maria Bartiromo, in February 2016, Trump renewed his defense of Putin.

Discussing the 2006 murder of Alexander Litvinenko , a former Russian spy, and the 2016 findings of a British inquiry that Putin “probably approved” his poisoning, Trump remarked "have they found him guilty? I don't think they've found him guilty.”

“If he did it, fine. But I don’t know that he did it. You know, people are saying they think it was him, it might have been him, it could have been him. But Maria, in all fairness to Putin—I don’t know. You know, and I’m not saying this because he says, ‘Trump is brilliant and leading everybody’ —the fact is that, you know, he hasn’t been convicted of anything.”

However, as Trump came under increasing scrutiny for his warmth towards Russia, he backtracked on his earlier boasts about his relations with Putin.

In the wake of the hacking of thousands of emails from DNC servers in June, Trump said that he had never met Putin and didn ’t know who he was:

“I never met Putin,” Trump said. “I don’t know who Putin is. He said one nice thing about me. He said I'm a genius. I said thank you very much to the newspaper and that was the end of it. I never met Putin.

He also said, "I would treat Vladimir Putin firmly, but there's nothing I can think of that I'd rather do than have Russia friendly, as opposed to the way they are right now, so that we can go and knock out ISIS [the Islamic State group] with other people.”

In the same news conference, Trump called on Russia to find Hillary Clinton’s deleted emails as secretary of state.

In a presidential debate with Clinton that October, he again denied knowing Putin after his rival accused him of being a Russian stooge.

Trump said at presidential debate: “I don’t know Putin. I think it would be great if we got along with Russia because we could fight ISIS together, as an example. But I don’t know Putin.”

At the third presidential debate, Trump denied Clinton’s charge he was Putin’s “puppet”, saying “No puppet. You’re the puppet.”

He further denied having met Putin and said that Putin had “outsmarted” Clinton and Obama.

After Trump’s election, he continued to speak warmly of Putin, praising a “very nice and correct” Christmas card the Russian leader sent him, and even re-tweeting a quote by Putin taunting the losing Clinton campaign.

“Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems : "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true!" he tweeted in December.

2017

Intelligence agencies reveal their verdict that Russia was behind the Democratic National Committee (DNC) hack, President Trump concedes Russia’s involvement—a claim he has since backtracked on.

"I think it was Russia," Trump said in a press briefing in Trump Tower, New York, in January, adding that Putin "should not be doing it.”

“He won't be doing it. Russia will have much greater respect for our country when I am leading it than when other people have led it,” Trump said.

After his inauguration, as multiple probes investigated allegations the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia, Trump continued to speak about the prospect of better relations with Russia.

After meeting face-to-face for the first time at the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany, in July, Trump said he pressed Putin about allegations of election meddling, and received a denial.

The following month he expressed gratitude rather than condemnation when Russia decided to cut hundreds if personnel from the U.S. embassy in Moscow, in a move condemned by critics as an attempt at Cold War style intimidation.

“I want to thank him because we’re trying to cut down on payroll, and as far as I’m concerned, I’m very thankful that he let go of a large number of people, because now we have a smaller payroll,” Mr. Trump told reporters at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. “There’s no real reason for them to go back. So I greatly appreciate the fact that we’ve been able to cut our payroll of the United States. We’ll save a lot of money.”


2013

Trump’s first remark on Putin dates back to 2013, when Trump hosted the Miss Universe in Moscow.

“Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow - if so, will he become my new best friend?” tweeted the then reality star.

Trump’s time in Moscow has become the subject of intense scrutiny, after a dossier on Trump compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele contained allegations that Trump had cavorted with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel room – and Russian intelligence had recorded the encounter.

Trump went on that year to claim that he had met the Russian president, and boasted of their relationship.

“I do have a relationship and I can tell you that he’s very interested in what we’re doing here today,” he said on MSNBC of the Miss Universe pageant in November, 2013. “He’s probably very interested in what you and I are saying today, and I’m sure he’s going to be seeing it in some form, but I do have a relationship with him and I think it’s very interesting to see what’s happened.”

2014

Trump renewed his praise for Putin as he mulled a bid for the presidency.

“When I went to Russia with the Miss Universe pageant, [Putin] contacted me and was so nice. I mean, the Russian people were so fantastic to us,” he said on Fox and Friends in February. “I’ll just say this, they are doing – they’re outsmarting us at many turns, as we all understand. I mean, their leaders are, whether you call them smarter or more cunning or whatever, but they’re outsmarting us. If you look at Syria or other places, they’re outsmarting us.”

Trump taunted Obama that year for being made to look weak by Russia in a March interview with NBC.

"And we have to show some strength. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time," he said. "And I just hope that Obama, who's not looking too good, doesn't do something very foolish and very stupid to show his manhood. I just hope that doesn't happen."

That April, Trump backed Russia's disputed claim of widespread support for its annexation of Crimea that month.

Trump said at a New Hampshire event that Putin is “absolutely having a great time.” He says “Russia is like, I mean they’re really hot stuff” and “and now you have people in the Ukraine — who knows, set up or not — but it can’t all be set up, I mean they’re marching in favor of joining Russia.”

That December, he warned of the effects of the Obama administrations sanctions regime against Russia.

He told Fox News that Putin is “wounded” and that “wounded people and wounded animals can do lots of strange things and we’d better be a little bit careful.”

Russia's President Vladimir Putin talks to U.S. President Donald Trump during their bilateral meeting at the G20 summit in Hamburg. Carlos Barria/Reuters

2015

After Trump announced his bid for the Republican presidential nomination in June 2015, he boasted of his Moscow contacts as evidence of his ability to broker deals with Russia.

“I think I get along with him fine,” Trump said of the Russian president in an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper in July, and said if he became president Russia would hand over NSA whistle blower Edward Snowden.

“I think he would be absolutely fine. He would never keep somebody like Snowden in Russia. He hates Obama. He doesn't respect Obama. Obama doesn't like him either. But he has no respect for Obama. Has a hatred for Obama. And Snowden is living the life. Look if that—if I'm president, Putin says, hey, boom, you're gone. I guarantee you this.”

On the campaign trail, he went on to repeat his praise for Putin. That November, Trump had defended Putin from accusations he authorised the assassination of journalists and dissidents.

“He’s running his country and at least he’s a leader, unlike what we have in this country,” Trump said in an interview on MSNBC’s Morning Joe.

He added: "I think our country does plenty of killing also, Joe, so you know. There's a lot of stupidity going on in the world right now, a lot of killing going on, a lot of stupidity."

And as Trump's campaign gained momentum, he was rewarded with praise from the Russian president. Putin described Trump as “outstanding and talented” at an event in Moscow in December.
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#1508764 --- 11/11/17 02:20 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/opinions/trump-absolves-putin-in-asia-zelizer/index.html

Trump absolves Putin and shoots himself in the foot

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By Julian Zelizer, CNN Political Analyst

Updated 1:55 PM ET, Sat November 11, 20

On Saturday, the President delivered his first moment of shock and awe with his Achilles' heel on foreign policy: Russia. In an act of defiance, he said he believed President Vladimir Putin's claim that Russia did not intervene in the 2016 US election despite all the evidence to the contrary, including from US intelligence agencies. He seems more worried that Putin is "insulted" by the accusations than he is by the impact these operations had on our democratic processes. The shocking comments about Putin are likely to drown out everything else that has happened so far.

The statement is a head-turner. It is part of the ongoing puzzle from this administration: What explains Trump's insistence on taking a relatively positive stance toward the Russian government despite the overwhelming evidence we have of an ongoing cyberwar against democratic elections and a terrible record on human rights.

There was no need for Trump to make this statement right now, and because it comes in the middle of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation it will only fuel more questions about why the relationship with Putin seems so important to him.
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#1508765 --- 11/11/17 02:22 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/11/trump-russia-putin-people-will-die-244801?lo=ap_a1

DANANG, Vietnam — President Donald Trump stayed on script for more than a week as he crisscrossed through Asia — and then Russian President Vladimir Putin showed up.

After chatting with Putin on the sidelines of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit here, Trump abandoned the diplomatic tone the White House had carefully scripted for his five-country tour, once again contradicting the overwhelming consensus among current and former U.S. officials that the Russian leader manipulated the 2016 election.

"The worst part of this is not that Trump takes Putin's word over the evidence based analysis of his own intelligence agencies. It is not even that he plays the role of a useful idiot as he kowtows to Putin yet again. The worst part, by far, is that a hostile power is engaged in an ongoing attack on America's political system and Trump is deliberately stripping the nation's defenses bare and leaving us exposed to future assaults. It is unilateral disarmament plain and simple,” said Thomas Wright, Director of the Center on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution and an expert in national security. "We have never seen this type of weakness in a U.S. president before."

Mike Morrell, former deputy director and acting director of the CIA, described the president's remarks as "a setback to the relationship between the IC and its president."

"I would never trust Putin’s word over the considered, high-confidence judgment of the Intelligence Community. Putin is a trained liar and manipulator. He’s comes across as believable because he is so good at deception. And, the President is biting hook, line, and sinker," he said. "Much progress had been made in that relationship since the early days, but this will most definitely will be a step backward."
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#1508766 --- 11/11/17 02:28 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h...in-says-n819916

DANANG, Vietnam — President Donald Trump hinted Saturday that he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin when he denies that Moscow meddled in the 2016 election. He also dismissed the assessment of U.S. intelligence chiefs that the Kremlin was responsible as a politically motivated "hit job" damaging his ability to work with foreign leaders on matters of life and death.
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#1508767 --- 11/11/17 02:30 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apec-s...g-idUSKBN1DB04N

“The President fools no one. He understands that the Russians intervened through the hacking and dumping of his opponent’s emails, the fruits of which he exploited time and again on the campaign trail,” Adam Schiff said in a statement.

“He understands all this and more. He just doesn’t understand how to put country over self. Or to put it in terms he is more familiar with - Mr. Trump simply can’t bring himself to put America first,” the Democrat said.
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#1508768 --- 11/11/17 02:32 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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CIA Director Mike Pompeo stands by US intelligence assessments that Russia meddled in the 2016 election, despite President Trump saying he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin when he says his country did not interfere

http://cnn.it/2hl8SPK
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#1508774 --- 11/11/17 06:24 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-russia/index.html

Sen. John McCain slammed President Donald Trump on Saturday for saying he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin over senior US intelligence officials when he says his country didn't interfere in the 2016 election.

"President Trump today stated that he believed Vladimir Putin is being sincere when he denies Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and reiterated that he hopes to cooperate with Russia in Syria," McCain, a strong critic of the President, said in a statement. "There's nothing 'America First' about taking the word of a KGB colonel over that of the American intelligence community. There's no 'principled realism' in cooperating with Russia to prop up the murderous Assad regime, which remains the greatest obstacle to a political solution that would bring an end to the bloodshed in Syria. Vladimir Putin does not have America's interests at heart. To believe otherwise is not only naive but also places our national security at risk."
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#1508779 --- 11/11/17 06:45 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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Trump is disgusting beyond belief.

http://www.whec.com/national/trump-and-putin-chat-on-summit-sidelines/4666286/?cat=565

Trump calls Putin sincere, ex-US intelligence heads 'hacks'

Days before returning home from a whirlwind trip to Asia, President Donald Trump was back on the defensive over Russian election meddling, saying he considers President Vladimir Putin's denials sincere, dismissing former U.S. intelligence officials as "political hacks" and accusing Democrats of trying to sabotage relations between the two countries.
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#1508785 --- 11/11/17 08:57 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Well, so much for the Veterans Day thread. frown
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#1508790 --- 11/11/17 11:09 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Well, so much for the Veterans Day thread. frown


I know. frown

I did get to thank a lot of "Living Hero's" today...it was a good day.

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#1508791 --- 11/12/17 02:18 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Well, so much for the Veterans Day thread. frown
I believe all Veterans would be outraged if we didn't criticize an American president who says nice things about dictators!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-possibility-friends-kim-jong/story?id=51091799

Trump: 'It's certainly a possibility' could become friends with Kim Jong Un
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#1508793 --- 11/12/17 07:34 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo

Well, so much for the Veterans Day thread. frown
I believe all Veterans would be outraged if we didn't criticize an American president who says nice things about dictators!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-possibility-friends-kim-jong/story?id=51091799

Trump: 'It's certainly a possibility' could become friends with Kim Jong Un


You can believe anything you want master Kyle, but more than likely you are wrong.

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#1508803 --- 11/12/17 11:46 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo

Well, so much for the Veterans Day thread. frown
I believe all Veterans would be outraged if we didn't criticize an American president who says nice things about dictators!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-possibility-friends-kim-jong/story?id=51091799

Trump: 'It's certainly a possibility' could become friends with Kim Jong Un
You can believe anything you want master Kyle, but more than likely you are wrong.
Really? You think veterans like our president being friends with all these dictators?
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#1508805 --- 11/12/17 11:48 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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And once again Trump has to backtrack over what he said about his friend Putin.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h...s-intel-n819986

Trump Backs Intel Agencies After Raising Doubts Over Russian Meddling


by Ali Vitali

HANOI, Vietnam — President Donald Trump said Sunday that he's "with" the U.S. intelligence agencies that have concluded Russia meddled in the 2016 election, despite repeated denials from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"I believe [Putin] believes that" Russia didn't meddle, Trump said, walking back convoluted and controversial comments on the subject from one day before. "I believe that he feels that he and Russia did not meddle in the election," Trump said.

"As to whether I believe it or not, I'm with our agencies — especially as currently constituted," Trump said during a joint press conference here with Vietnamese President Trần Đại Quang Sunday morning local time
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#1508815 --- 11/12/17 06:14 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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AS A NAVY veteran myself from the Vietnam-era, I had the unfortunate accident of fulfilling my enlistment under two other WH "idiots". I speak of our last "unelected" idiot president and his successor from Georgia. Ford didn't want the job and Carter had no clue!
Low morale permeated whole units, ships, battalions and flight personnel. Race riots were prevalent across the Southeast Asian theater. GI's and sailors alike needed it to end. I support our current President because he reminds those of us, who came out from those experiences, how much his kind could have lifted our spirits and restored our love of country!



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#1508818 --- 11/12/17 07:30 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: wedggie]
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I can think of the mindset as yours that placed citizen under bondage (slavery) Women could not vote and rich White men rule the country. Great news Sir, this is 2017 and those days of yore are gone gone gone, and if you think they're coming back...."YOU AIN'T SEEN WAR YET" Thank God for Democrats, Republicans and Independents who know Trump as an old dirty racist that has stirred of the hatred.

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#1508821 --- 11/12/17 08:41 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: wedggie]
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Originally Posted By: wedggie
AS A NAVY veteran myself from the Vietnam-era, I had the unfortunate accident of fulfilling my enlistment under two other WH "idiots". I speak of our last "unelected" idiot president and his successor from Georgia. Ford didn't want the job and Carter had no clue!
Low morale permeated whole units, ships, battalions and flight personnel. Race riots were prevalent across the Southeast Asian theater. GI's and sailors alike needed it to end. I support our current President because he reminds those of us, who came out from those experiences, how much his kind could have lifted our spirits and restored our love of country!

I'm just curious... how do you defend your assertions that Carter had "no clue", being that he was a former Navy Nuclear Officer and all???

The closest connection to Carter and the Race Riots of the era, was the fact that he actually rose above the abject racism permeating the state he lovingly called home. Trump (and company) are the ultimate expression of the ignorance, hate and violence that spawned those very riots.

Love of country is earned through equal application of our constitutional rights. Not sentimental flag-waving and blind, nationalistic jingoism.

Respectfully, I think you have your idealogical moralities completely ass-backwards. That, or you simply don't give a damn about the historical record.
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#1508838 --- 11/13/17 09:22 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1508842 --- 11/13/17 10:03 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: wedggie
AS A NAVY veteran myself from the Vietnam-era, I had the unfortunate accident of fulfilling my enlistment under two other WH "idiots". I speak of our last "unelected" idiot president and his successor from Georgia. Ford didn't want the job and Carter had no clue!
Low morale permeated whole units, ships, battalions and flight personnel. Race riots were prevalent across the Southeast Asian theater. GI's and sailors alike needed it to end. I support our current President because he reminds those of us, who came out from those experiences, how much his kind could have lifted our spirits and restored our love of country!

I'm just curious... how do you defend your assertions that Carter had "no clue", being that he was a former Navy Nuclear Officer and all???

The closest connection to Carter and the Race Riots of the era, was the fact that he actually rose above the abject racism permeating the state he lovingly called home. Trump (and company) are the ultimate expression of the ignorance, hate and violence that spawned those very riots.

Love of country is earned through equal application of our constitutional rights. Not sentimental flag-waving and blind, nationalistic jingoism.

Respectfully, I think you have your idealogical moralities completely ass-backwards. That, or you simply don't give a damn about the historical record.
crazy



It's the latter, not to mention the fact that any defence to Trump's dysfunction is very difficult to hold up, thus these silly deflections, BTW I love everything about John McCain, his politics and more so, his service to our country, sadly, an idiot president hate war personell that get captured.



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#1508845 --- 11/13/17 10:11 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: wedggie
AS A NAVY veteran myself from the Vietnam-era, I had the unfortunate accident of fulfilling my enlistment under two other WH "idiots". I speak of our last "unelected" idiot president and his successor from Georgia. Ford didn't want the job and Carter had no clue!
Low morale permeated whole units, ships, battalions and flight personnel. Race riots were prevalent across the Southeast Asian theater. GI's and sailors alike needed it to end. I support our current President because he reminds those of us, who came out from those experiences, how much his kind could have lifted our spirits and restored our love of country!

"Respectfully, I think you have your idealogical moralities completely ass-backwards. That, or you simply don't give a damn about the historical record." crazy

It's the latter, not to mention the fact that any defence to Trump's dysfunction is very difficult to hold up, thus these silly deflections.

Far be it from me, not to offer at least two good options. wink
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#1508847 --- 11/13/17 10:16 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Timbo]
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Come now!!!! you've raised my curiosity.....name at least one option and I'll guarantee we'll concur. laugh

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#1508848 --- 11/13/17 10:19 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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Referring to these options:
Originally Posted By: Timbo

"Respectfully, I think you have your idealogical moralities completely ass-backwards. That, OR you simply don't give a damn about the historical record." crazy
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#1508849 --- 11/13/17 10:22 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Timbo]
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#1508855 --- 11/13/17 11:37 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1508859 --- 11/13/17 12:04 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Just think, 75 years later, we now have a lunatic president systematically alienating us with every country on the globe while submitting himself like a female dog to a Russian dictator.

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#1508866 --- 11/13/17 12:56 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker


Originally Posted By: Formermac
Just think, 75 years later, we now have a lunatic president systematically alienating us with every country on the globe while submitting like a female dog to a Russian dictator.





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#1508868 --- 11/13/17 01:05 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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How do you know that you stunted the intent of a dullard? Meme baby meme!!!!!! Come now, you remind me of a calendar, you just somehow know the events are coming and the element of surprise is lost.

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#1508869 --- 11/13/17 01:29 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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The only lunatics here, are the ones that ignore all the swastikas and other white supremacy symbols worn publicly and proudly by an endless parades of racist Trump supporters. mad
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#1508871 --- 11/13/17 01:36 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

The only lunatics here, are the ones that ignore all the swastikas and other white supremacy symbols worn publicly and proudly by an endless parades of racist Trump supporters. mad



A Baseless leftist remark, where's your proof master Timbo?

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#1508872 --- 11/13/17 01:39 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1508874 --- 11/13/17 01:44 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

The only lunatics here, are the ones that ignore all the swastikas and other white supremacy symbols worn publicly and proudly by an endless parades of racist Trump supporters. mad



A Baseless leftist remark, where's your proof master Timbo?



Why do you make yourself such an easy target by asking such simple and obvious questions? Is a 350 LB. 5ft. person overweight?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-r...textbook-racism

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#1508875 --- 11/13/17 01:45 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Vets Set the Record Straight After PBS Documentary Spreads Leftist Lies About Vietnam War

By John Falkenberg

This week, veterans of the Vietnam War sent a letter to PBS, high-profile documentarian Ken Burns, and documentary sponsor Bank of America in an attempt to set the record straight on the facts concerning “The Vietnam War,” a PBS documentary series that’s turning a lot of heads.

According to PJ Media, veterans argue that the documentary series fails to mention key aspects of the conflict, “including the communist connections of North Vietnamese dictator Ho Chi Minh and the brutal repression after the war.”

Although I personally have yet to see the series myself, that accusation does seem to hold at least some water.

In an interview with far-left publication Mother Jones, neither Burns, who co-produced the series with Lynn Novick, or his interviewer mentioned the words “communism” or “communist” — not once, and it was a fairly length interview.

Lewis Sorley, a Vietnam War veteran, historian, and director at Vietnam Veterans for Factual History, was quick to remind them that this was more than just some unjust blunder.


“The whole cause of all this agony and bloodshed was the aggressive North Vietnamese invasion of the South. If it hadn’t been for that, none of this ever would have happened,” he told PJ Media.

“Burns never seems to find that worth mentioning or condemning and I wonder why.”
Sorley claimed that Burns and his team “had clearly decided that they wanted to tell the standard left-wing narrative of an unwinnable, unjust war.”

PJ Media further reports that the documentary obscured the evil intrinsic to communism.

And that should be an outrage to every American interested in an honest appraisal of history.

As the letter from the Vietnam Veterans for Factual History noted, they had four major issues with the series:

They felt that the documentary showed “U.S. support for South Vietnam as blustering, blundering jingoism.”
They were outraged over the minimization of Ho Chi Minh’s communism.
They felt the series ignored South Vietnam’s valor.
They felt the documentary glossed over communist atrocities.

While I’ve not yet seen this documentary series myself, I have seen every other major series Burns has put out, and from that I can tell you — these veterans almost certainly have legitimate beef.

Ken Burns’ “The Civil War” documentary is still argued over, and that series was released in 1990.



The main difference between the “The Civil War” and “The Vietnam War” documentaries, as we can see here, is that Vietnam veterans still live, breathe, and contribute to society.

I’m glad to see themselves stand up for themselves over what appears to be a grievous misrepresentation of the most controversial war of the 20th Century.

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#1508877 --- 11/13/17 01:57 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Offering citation is so simple but for a simpleton, it's a waste of time. Seeing that changing direction at the drop of a dime is your gift, let's do a little fact finding son. Communism being the major component to US fear motivated us to get involved in its spread but one aspect you've failed to note, once the United States left South Vietnam, the region was taken back over by the North, ironically the same happened in the Korean conflict. All said and done, why are we still fighting the same causes 67 and 55 years respectively? not to mention the thousands of lives lost.

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#1508883 --- 11/13/17 04:38 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Offering citation is so simple but for a simpleton, it's a waste of time. Seeing that changing direction at the drop of a dime is your gift, let's do a little fact finding son. Communism being the major component to US fear motivated us to get involved in its spread but one aspect you've failed to note, once the United States left South Vietnam, the region was taken back over by the North, ironically the same happened in the Korean conflict. All said and done, why are we still fighting the same causes 67 and 55 years respectively? not to mention the thousands of lives lost.

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Offering citation is so simple but for a simpleton, it's a waste of time


I did, but you are either blind, or to obtuse too notice.


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#1508884 --- 11/13/17 05:11 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Yes indeed folks, now you see why certain people voted for Trump, many of his personalities, traits, behavior and intellect were the winning charm that hooked them
I thought this was a post that Tommy boy created to honor the veterans, now look who destroyed and dishonored them....just like his daddy ain't he? Now that I had that little piece of fun, I've quit laughing with you. This is actually a good year being that an historic day on January 20, 2017 showcased the beginning of the replacement of the Barnum & Bailey circus. Very entertaining and like the circus, stinks to high heaven..........and it's all FREE to watch. laugh

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#1508885 --- 11/13/17 05:24 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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I'm just curious... how do you defend your assertions that Carter had "no clue", being that he was a former Navy Nuclear Officer and all???

Hmmmm!.......Seem to recall Jimmy never served on a Nuclear submarine as a Nuclear Officer!

But somehow, he did win an election!

President Trump, to the chagrin of liberals, also won an election! The people have spoken!
Deal with it!

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#1508887 --- 11/13/17 05:40 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: wedggie]
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Spoken like a true Trumpster...."The people have spoken" Well that's to be totally determined in a while. Fact: Trump lost by 3 million popular votes while for whatever reason he is fighting for his life in guarding those proven Russian hacks. Now for your premise that "The people have spoken" is somewhat ludicrous and hilarious, because in the TRUE election, the people spoke last Tuesday because they're "Tired of dealing with it" BTW, why insist on repeating the same infractions of Tommy by showing your ignorance and disrespect toward the Veterans by ranting on an unrelated topic?

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#1508888 --- 11/13/17 06:54 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: wedggie]
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I'm just curious... how do you defend your assertions that Carter had "no clue", being that he was a former Navy Nuclear Officer and all???

Hmmmm!.......Seem to recall Jimmy never served on a Nuclear submarine as a Nuclear Officer!

But somehow, he did win an election!

President Trump, to the chagrin of liberals, also won an election! The people have spoken! Deal with it!

Deal with THIS:

1)
• After Officer's Navy Submarine School, Carter was assigned and served on SS-391 Pomfret, then promoted to Lieutenant J.G.

• After completing graduate work in physics at Union College, he served as X.O. aboard SSK 1, the first postwar submarine built.

• Carter was then promoted to full-Lieutenant. Carter was detached from K-1 to participate, under then-Capt. Hyman Rickover, on design and development of Navy nuke propulsion plants.

• In 1953, Carter was assigned to the crew of the submarine Seawolf in use of those plants.


2)
• Trump in fact did NOT "win" the election. He conspired with Russia to STEAL the election.
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#1508889 --- 11/13/17 06:59 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Offering citation is so simple but for a simpleton, it's a waste of time.

I did, but you are either blind, or to [too] obtuse too notice.
citation
By John Falkenberg

Uh, no... you didn't. You merely provided attribution. They're not remotely the same thing. You're either blind, or too obtuse too notice
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#1508890 --- 11/13/17 07:04 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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A Baseless leftist remark, where's your proof master Timbo?
Originally Posted By: Formermac

What Formermac said. whistle

http://hinterlandgazette.com/2015/08/donald-trump-white-pride-supporters-neo-nazis-racists.html
















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#1508894 --- 11/13/17 07:21 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Timbo]
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Now if you'll excuse me while I go throw up and gouge my eyes out. eek
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#1508895 --- 11/13/17 07:28 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Timbo]
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LOL, please keep the eyes, you are seeing perfectly but I do understand the putrid taste in your mouth, not to mention the smell that permeates the GOP.


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#1508901 --- 11/13/17 07:48 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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"not to mention the smell that permeates the GOP."

It's the stench of slow death from within.
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#1508961 --- 11/16/17 08:24 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Timbo]
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#1508962 --- 11/16/17 09:08 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: gassy one]
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Adverse to Trump and his surrogates whose time is already here....or did you forget the guilty plea, 2 house arrests and a pending indictment? If he's a dumbo, what does that make someone like you who look and hope for arrest while denying current arrest? Pick your poison son crazy

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#1509038 --- 11/17/17 09:37 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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All politicians are crooks including the Clinton's! It's business as usual!

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#1509054 --- 11/17/17 10:59 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: gassy one]
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All politicians are crooks including the Clinton's! It's business as usual!
There are over 100 countries in the world. Our government is the best or at least close to the best. It is so sad that you feel so bad about this great country and it leaders.
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#1509139 --- 11/18/17 11:09 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-strateg...linkId=44885381

Top general says he would resist "illegal" nuke order from Trump

The top U.S. nuclear commander said Saturday he would push back against President Trump if he ordered a nuclear launch the general believed to be "illegal," saying he would hope to find another solution.

Air Force Gen. John Hyten, commander of the U.S. Strategic Command (STRATCOM), told an audience at the Halifax International Security Forum in Halifax, Nova Scotia, on Saturday that he has given a lot of thought to what he would say if Mr. Trump ordered a strike he considered unlawful.

"I think some people think we're stupid," Hyten said in response to a question about such a scenario. "We're not stupid people. We think about these things a lot. When you have this responsibility, how do you not think about it?"

Hyten explained the process that would follow such a command. As head of STRATCOM, Hyten is responsible for overseeing the U.S. nuclear arsenal.

"I provide advice to the president, he will tell me what to do," Hyten added. "And if it's illegal, guess what's going to happen? I'm going to say, 'Mr. President, that's illegal.' And guess what he's going to do? He's going to say, 'What would be legal?' And we'll come up options, with a mix of capabilities to respond to whatever the situation is, and that's the way it works. It's not that complicated."
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#1509147 --- 11/18/17 12:51 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-strateg...linkId=44885381

Top general says he would resist "illegal" nuke order from Trump

The top U.S. nuclear commander said Saturday he would push back against President Trump if he ordered a nuclear launch the general believed to be "illegal," saying he would hope to find another solution.

Air Force Gen. John Hyten, commander of the U.S. Strategic Command (STRATCOM), told an audience at the Halifax International Security Forum in Halifax, Nova Scotia, on Saturday that he has given a lot of thought to what he would say if Mr. Trump ordered a strike he considered unlawful.

"I think some people think we're stupid," Hyten said in response to a question about such a scenario. "We're not stupid people. We think about these things a lot. When you have this responsibility, how do you not think about it?"

Hyten explained the process that would follow such a command. As head of STRATCOM, Hyten is responsible for overseeing the U.S. nuclear arsenal.

"I provide advice to the president, he will tell me what to do," Hyten added. "And if it's illegal, guess what's going to happen? I'm going to say, 'Mr. President, that's illegal.' And guess what he's going to do? He's going to say, 'What would be legal?' And we'll come up options, with a mix of capabilities to respond to whatever the situation is, and that's the way it works. It's not that complicated."



Air Force Gen. John Hyten, you are FIRED!

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#1509157 --- 11/18/17 02:34 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Thank so much Gen Hyten. You may somebody be credited with saving the human race from Trump.
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#1509166 --- 11/18/17 03:14 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: Formermac]
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/opini...col-left-region

Nuclear War Doesn’t Seem So Funny After All

In January, I started writing a novel in which a 10-kiloton nuclear bomb was detonated in the center of Washington, where I live. It was meant to be funny. I had read a 2011 report by the Federal Emergency Management Agency that described the effect of such a detonation, and was surprised to learn that my apartment in Adams Morgan would most likely survive the initial blast.

I imagined myself and my neighbors — about half wealthy millennials and half older people who’d bought in before the neighborhood’s property values skyrocketed — sheltering in awkward place in a basement, bickering over scraps of food and someone’s private stash of LaCroix cans.

Then, in April, Kim Jong-un of North Korea released a propaganda video of his army striking the Capitol; over the summer he tested intercontinental ballistic missiles that may be capable of striking the East Coast. More recently, President Trump called Mr. Kim “short and fat,” and now, apparently, North Korea has sentenced Mr. Trump to death in absentia. Suddenly, my novel started feeling a lot less funny.

For 1980s babies like me, nuclear war has long had a darkly comic edge. Too young to have experienced 1950s school drills or to remember the heightened anxieties of the early 1980s, we’ve viewed nuclear war as a terrifying improbability, especially compared with the terrifying certainties that we know all too well: global warming, terrorism, lone-wolf gunmen. America is in the privileged position of having inflicted nuclear casualties, not suffered them — and since the Cold War ended, it’s felt relatively likely that we wouldn’t be on either side of that equation again.

Understanding nuclear war from movies, books and grainy videos of kids hiding ineffectually under desks, we’ve seen it mostly through two prisms: black humor and camp. On the camp side, there’s the 1983 movie “The Day After,” with an Urkel-jeaned Steve Guttenberg and all the flashing skeletons. On the black humor side, everything from “Dr. Strangelove” to Kurt Vonnegut to the work of Takashi Murakami, as Spencer Weart points out in his book “The Rise of Nuclear Fear.”

For me, an increase in visceral terror over the past year at first made me need to laugh, and then made laughing feel inappropriate. When I started my nuclear-attack novel, I felt I was using humor to assuage my latent fears of an attack; it felt cathartic. But catharsis, like humor, implies a remove: You’re re-experiencing a past trauma, or inhabiting someone else’s. As it became increasingly plausible that I could live through the precise situation I was describing, the humor faded, and I abandoned the project.

Should we actually approach the brink of nuclear war, humor might feel necessary again. And if it does, I have a novel all ready to go.
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#1509200 --- 11/18/17 08:25 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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BOOM BOOM!

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#1509218 --- 11/19/17 03:38 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: gassy one]
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BOOM BOOM!
You are the only person I know or who I have heard of that think nuclear war is funny. I hope you survive the initial blast and starve to death over the next year in the following nuclear winter.
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#1509231 --- 11/19/17 08:46 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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Thank so much Gen Hyten. You may somebody be credited with saving the human race from Trump.



UCMJ Article 88-court martial offense;

“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

How's that master kyle, your treasonous General could, and should be court-martialed.

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#1509232 --- 11/19/17 10:13 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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Thank so much Gen Hyten. You may somebody be credited with saving the human race from Trump.



Notice the word "illegal" So fake news again.
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#1509275 --- 11/19/17 07:20 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
BOOM BOOM!
You are the only person I know or who I have heard of that think nuclear war is funny. I hope you survive the initial blast and starve to death over the next year in the following nuclear winter.
Not a Doom & Gloomer like you Kyle!

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#1509296 --- 11/19/17 07:55 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
BOOM BOOM!
You are the only person I know or who I have heard of that think nuclear war is funny. I hope you survive the initial blast and starve to death over the next year in the following nuclear winter.
Not a Doom & Gloomer like you Kyle!
No you are not. You have no clue with your head buried in the sand.
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#1509320 --- 11/19/17 08:20 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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Better than where your's is buried! LOL!

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#1509345 --- 11/20/17 04:06 AM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Better than where your's is buried! LOL!
Your replies sound like a young teen which you probably are.
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#1509465 --- 11/21/17 10:35 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: kyle585]
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You have no clue Kyle!

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#1519226 --- 08/29/18 04:21 PM Re: God Bless Our Veterans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker





Oddly enough, not one Conservative here will stand against Trump and honor one of the greatest war heroes of modern times, the late John McCain.

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